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Kenny_01
2 Mar 2003, 00:46
Only 2 spots left to be filled.
WI, Canada, Bangladesh, Namibia and Holland have more or less been eliminated.
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Only 2 spots left to be filled.
WI, Canada, Bangladesh, Namibia and Holland have more or less been eliminated.
West Indies are a chance if Canada defeat New Zealand. :D
I'd say Pakistan are rather screwed now. They now need to beat Zimbabwe, and England to lose to Australia. On top of that, the results of both matches to be lopsided as they need a huge swing in net run rate between themselves and England.
red+black
2 Mar 2003, 01:25
might as well just play the semis now and forget all the other games. we can play the kenyans, then sit back and watch india and sri lanka cane each other.
I don't think Sri Lanka are through yet. If I understand it correctly, if they lose and NZ predictably thrashes Canada, it will come down to NRR between SL and NZ.
Originally posted by Rob
I don't think Sri Lanka are through yet. If I understand it correctly, if they lose and NZ predictably thrashes Canada, it will come down to NRR between SL and NZ.
True, but the difference between the net run rate of those two teams is quite large.
Kenny_01
2 Mar 2003, 02:23
Originally posted by Rob
I don't think Sri Lanka are through yet. If I understand it correctly, if they lose and NZ predictably thrashes Canada, it will come down to NRR between SL and NZ.
Then NZ will have 16 points, as will Kenya, South Africa and SL.
Kenya has beaten NZ and SL so they make it.
South Africa has beaten Kenya and SL so they make it.
SL have beaten NZ and while NZ have beaten SA, since the last spot comes down between these two (SL and NZ), it goes to head to head, which SL won. Or am I wrong?
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Then NZ will have 16 points, as will Kenya, South Africa and SL.
Kenya has beaten NZ and SL so they make it.
South Africa has beaten Kenya and SL so they make it.
SL have beaten NZ and while NZ have beaten SA, since the last spot comes down between these two (SL and NZ), it goes to head to head, which SL won. Or am I wrong?
It's a confusing rule but head-to-head is only applied once. New Zealand and Sri Lanka both have one win apiece of the four teams tied on points and so their relative positions are resolved by net run rate.
I dunno about the rest of ya's, but im loving the fact that Kenya got in there. Great for cricket in Africa!
Wow!!
2 Oceana sides.
2 African sides.
2 Asian sides.
What a super-six series this is going to be.
originally posted by X_box_X
2 Oceana sides.
2 African sides.
2 Asian sides.
Can't happen.
For NZ to go through to the Super 6 stage SL must beat SA. If SA beat SL, NZ must beat Canada with more than 30 overs to spare or by over 150 runs.
My pick is
Aust, India, Kenya - gauranteed
SL, NZ, Zim
Bomber Spirit
2 Mar 2003, 12:37
Originally posted by St-KriS
I dunno about the rest of ya's, but im loving the fact that Kenya got in there. Great for cricket in Africa! I know this is 1-day cricket, but on what we've seen in this World Cup I think Bangladesh should be stripped of Test status and Kenya included.
Kenya may not always be world-beaters, but at least they'll be competitive. Bangladesh have been in Test cricket for a couple of years now, and there's no sign of any improvement. They've lost to both non-Test teams in their group; so it's hard to justify them retaining Test status.
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Then NZ will have 16 points, as will Kenya, South Africa and SL.
Kenya has beaten NZ and SL so they make it.
South Africa has beaten Kenya and SL so they make it.
SL have beaten NZ and while NZ have beaten SA, since the last spot comes down between these two (SL and NZ), it goes to head to head, which SL won. Or am I wrong?
As I understand it, if 4 teams are even on 16 pts, head to head for all those teams are looked at. Hence:
Kenya/RSA 2-1
NZ/SL 1-2
I don't think they would apply head to head again between teams equal on head to head between 4 teams. Sh*t that's hard to say. :D
This system really does suck badly. Why can't they just apply NRR to teams equal on points? Then the top team carries 8 points through and the 2nd team carries 4 points through.
Originally posted by Slax
Can't happen.
For NZ to go through to the Super 6 stage SL must beat SA. If SA beat SL, NZ must beat Canada with more than 30 overs to spare or by over 150 runs.
My pick is
Aust, India, Kenya - gauranteed
SL, NZ, Zim
But that *is* two each from Asia, Africa and Oceania. :confused:
red+black
2 Mar 2003, 21:06
Originally posted by Rob
As I understand it, if 4 teams are even on 16 pts, head to head for all those teams are looked at. Hence:
Kenya/RSA 2-1
NZ/SL 1-2
I don't think they would apply head to head again between teams equal on head to head between 4 teams. Sh*t that's hard to say. :D
This system really does suck badly. Why can't they just apply NRR to teams equal on points? Then the top team carries 8 points through and the 2nd team carries 4 points through.
Exactrly, head to head is ridiculous. It was like NZ going through to the finals v South Africa last year due to head to head. Net run rate takes into consideration matches played against all opposition. Can you imagine if AFL introduced head to head? Yeah, I can see it now, forget that a team has 20% more percentage, let's just look at head to head.
Here are the qualification rules - direct from the ICC web site:
2. Group Matches
In the event of teams finishing on equal points in either Group, the right to play in the Super Six stage will be decided in the following order of priority:
The most wins in the Group Matches.
When two teams have both equal points and equal wins, the team which was the winner of the Group Match played between them will be placed in the higher position.
When more than two teams have equal points and equal wins, the team which was the winner of most number of matches played between those teams will be placed in the higher position.
If still equal, the team with the higher net run rate in the Group matches will be placed in the higher position (refer to 6. below for the calculation of net run rate).
If still equal, the team with the higher number of wickets taken per balls bowled in the Group
Matches in which results were achieved will be placed in the higher position.
In the highly unlikely event that teams cannot be separated by the above this will be done by drawing lots.
EagleBlue
3 Mar 2003, 02:00
Pakistan is as good as gone now. I have worked out the (possible) NRR after their game against Zimbabwe and the minimum requirement would be for them to beat Zim by about 180 runs or to win with about 37 overs to spare. After working that out I now unashamedly say
GO ZIMBABWE
(Hope the Paki players have their house and contents insurace paid up !!!!!)