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It's been all gloom or doom on the board in the last 2 weeks.
I thought I would have a stab at the Top 5 in the B and F after round 18.
You usually get a good guide at this stage because positions usually change little in the last 4 rounds.
1) Watson
2) Lovett
3) Slattery
4) Fletcher
5) McPhee
Just outside the Top 5 Winderlich, Pears, Stanton.
Colin D'Cops
3 Aug 2009, 20:39
1. Jobe Watson
2. Andrew Lovett
3. Patrick Ryder
4. Brent Stanton
5. Jason Winderlich
Ben the Gooner
3 Aug 2009, 20:44
1. Jobe Watson
2. Jason Winderlich
3. Paddy Ryder
4. Andy Lovett
5. Tayte Pears
Remember Fletch missed 6 games.
King Of The Hille
3 Aug 2009, 21:11
It's been all gloom or doom on the board in the last 2 weeks.
I thought I would have a stab at the Top 5 in the B and F after round 18.
You usually get a good guide at this stage because positions usually change little in the last 4 rounds.
1) Watson
2) Lovett
3) Slattery
4) Fletcher
5) McPhee
Just outside the Top 5 Winderlich, Pears, Stanton.
I just coudlnt help but think you were referring to Henry Slattery?
1Watson
2Winderlich
3Lovett
4Stanton
5Ryder
Daytripper
3 Aug 2009, 21:12
In no particular order.
Watson, Winderlich, Stanton, Lovett and Lloyd.
If Lloyd misses the last 4 games then Ryder will take his spot as he basically would only have polled votes from Anzac Day onwards.
Ditto Winderlich and McPhee.
Fletcher is no hope considering he missed 6 games I think in the middle of the year.
In no particular order.
Watson, Winderlich, Stanton, Lovett and Lloyd.
If Lloyd misses the last 4 games then Ryder will take his spot as he basically would only have polled votes from Anzac Day onwards.
Ditto Winderlich and McPhee.
Fletcher is no hope considering he missed 6 games I think in the middle of the year.
I would have rated Fletcher at No 2 if he didn't miss the 6 games.
I doubt that Lloyd would be in the Top 10.
1) Watson
2) Lovett
3) Ryder
4) Pears
5) Winderlich
6) Fletcher
7) Stanton
8) Monfries
9) Slattery
10) Dyson
The Donners
3 Aug 2009, 22:20
1) Watson
2) Fletcher
3) Lovett
4) Winderlich
5) Ryder
Knight Ryders
3 Aug 2009, 22:59
1. Jobe Watson
2. Andrew Lovett
3. Patrick Ryder
4. Brent Stanton
5. Jason Winderlich
:thumbsu:
Winders could go out if he can't get back on the park. I expect Dyson to score reasonably strongly as it has looked like he has carried out coaches instructions quite a few times this year.
1. J Watson
2. A Lovett
3. B Stanton
4. J Winderlich
5. P Ryder
BTW LOL for this who put McPhee & Slattery in B&F contention :D:thumbsu:
BTW LOL for this who put McPhee & Slattery in B&F contention :D:thumbsu:Slattery's done his job nearly every single game this year. That's what the coaches award votes for; carrying out their instructions and fulfilling their roles within the team.
Would thoroughly deserve a top-10 B&F finish, if you ask me.
Slattery's done his job nearly every single game this year. That's what the coaches award votes for; carrying out their instructions and fulfilling their roles within the team.
Would thoroughly deserve a top-10 B&F finish, if you ask me.
umm but I didn't ask you:cool:
umm but I didn't ask you:cool:I'll direct you to this:
BTW LOL for this who put McPhee & Slattery in B&F contention :D:thumbsu:That's asking me, whether you like it or not bozo.
I'll direct you to this:
That's asking me, whether you like it or not bozo.
no it was statement not a question :)
no it was statement not a question :)And the basis of a forum is to create discussion; any statements or questions posted are there for others to respond to.
1. Watson
2. Winderlich
3. Ryder
4. Lovett
5. Pears
And the basis of a forum is to create discussion; any statements or questions posted are there for others to respond to.
hahaha lol you take things very personal don't ya :D. Very good point you raise above regarding the basis of a forum, quick question if I may. The purpose of a forum is to discuss and give opinions on certain topics right??
If so why when people have opinions on certain players in a negative light or criticise players for various reasons that they believe justified are they shot down for being too negative and player bashers? Its actually a serious question I'm not trying to be a smart as$ or anything I just feel that its hard to be honest and give what you feel to be a true account of a players performance without being set upon by the thousand of do gooder flogs sticking up for same repeat offenders. Is that a fair question?
hahaha lol you take things very personal don't ya :DI don't take anything on BigFooty personally. However I've been pretty grumpy on here lately; so many pages filled with verbal shit to sift through will do that. :o
Very good point you raise above regarding the basis of a forum, quick question if I may. The purpose of a forum is to discuss and give opinions on certain topics right??Bingo.
If so why when people have opinions on certain players in a negative light or criticise players for various reasons that they believe justified are they shot down for being too negative and player bashers?Because again, the idea of a forum is to generate discussion. A person may disagree with you and may take you to task on something, but that shouldn't stop you. That's often how a discussion goes.
For example, ever since I've been on BigFooty people on these boards have been arguing over Stanton; is he over-rated, a star waiting for support or development of defensive ability, or is he simply a hack? (Rhetorical question.)
However that's the beauty of these boards; people throw points back and forwards supporting their own argument, and it can go a few ways:
a) People will take on this information and readjust their own perspective
b) People will respond with their own take on the matter.
Regardless, it's creating discussion.
Its actually a serious question I'm not trying to be a smart as$ or anything I just feel that its hard to be honest and give what you feel to be a true account of a players performance without being set upon by the thousand of do gooder flogs sticking up for same repeat offenders. Is that a fair question?Fair question mate, definitely. My advice is to speak your mind, with respect to the rules and other posters; at the end of the day it's an internet forum, and we're all on here because we support the same club. We all want the same thing; people are going to disagree with you at times, but stick to your guns.
People argue with Ant nearly every day, but that doesn't stop him, does it? Although he's right about 95% of the time, I'd say. ;)
The reason why people get touchy with particular posters or posts is because it's quite tiresome reading things such as "drop Slattery, he's shit!!!" when clearly they've given no thought to the situation. If you're going to make a statement, offer something constructive. 9 times out of 10 people aren't going to bother responding to a statement such as above.
A better way to earn 'respect' would be to go along the lines of 'Slattery hasn't been able to contain his opponent for a few weeks now; perhaps we should look at trialling Houli in his position?'.
Unfortunately a lot of people don't offer up anything worthwhile; it is these people who are either completely ignored or taken to task.
/lecture.
I don't take anything on BigFooty personally. However I've been pretty grumpy on here lately; so many pages filled with verbal shit to sift through will do that. :o
Bingo.
Because again, the idea of a forum is to generate discussion. Just because a person disagrees with you and may take you to task on it, doesn't mean that it isn't discussion.
For example, ever since I've been on BigFooty people on these boards have been arguing over Stanton; is he over-rated, a star waiting for support or development of defensive ability, or is he simply a hack? (Rhetorical question.)
However that's the beauty of these boards; people throw points back and forwards supporting their own argument, and it can a few ways:
a) People will take on this information and readjust their own perspective
b) People will respond with their own take on the matter.
Regardless, it's creating discussion.
Fair question mate, definitely. My advice is to speak your mind, with respect to the rules and other posters; at the end of the day it's an internet forum, and we're all on here because we support the same club. We all want the same thing; people are going to disagree with you at times, but stick to your guns.
People argue with Ant nearly every day, but that doesn't stop him, does it? Although he's right about 95% of the time, I'd say. ;)
ahhh I can sleep peacefully now :D thanks for clearing up:thumbsu:
The Donners
4 Aug 2009, 06:30
For example, ever since I've been on BigFooty people on these boards have been arguing over Stanton; is he over-rated, a star waiting for support or development of defensive ability, or is he simply a hack? (Rhetorical question.)
But but........
AFL LEGEND
4 Aug 2009, 11:17
I would think that our best and fairest would have to go something like this in no particular order:
Ricky Dyson: what an improvement from him this year, and to think we were going to delist him last year.
Jobe Watson: Even after missing games at various stages, will be hard pressed to miss out on a top 5 B&F finish, elite ball winner.
Brent Stanton: Love child of the coaching staff, and one player who has done no harm to the great number 5 guernsey.
Andrew Lovett: From trade bait to top 5 B&F finisher, what a turnaround from this once much maligned bad boy.
Jason Winderlich may have done enough to get himself in the top 5, has been a vatly improvem player, and to think he has gone through so much and is still only 24.
Paddy Ryder: Would have to be up there now, as he has been thrust into the spot light, and taken on the mantle very well, could be a smoky for number one even.
That could very well be the top 6 in no particular order though. Players who could also come into contention include: Brent Prismall (If he continues his outstanding form), Dustin Flecther (Although he has missed many games through injury, still polls well), Tayte Pears (Has shown he has something special in him to warrant selection).
Just naming a few players.
BTW LOL for this who put McPhee & Slattery in B&F contention :D:thumbsu:
You need to watch the game more closely.
Both follow coaches instructions.
You need to watch the game more closely.
Both follow coaches instructions.
We need a new coach then :D:thumbsu: on a serious note thats all well and good that they follow coaches instructions but for that reason alone do you believe they are top 5 in B&F
But but........Haha. Yes, you came to mind as soon as I mentioned the Stanton debate.
1) Watson
2) Lovett
3) Ryder
4) Pears
5) Winderlich
6) Fletcher
7) Stanton
8) Monfries
9) Slattery
10) Dyson
this +1.
1) Watson
2) Lovett
3) Ryder
4) Pears
5) Winderlich
6) Fletcher
7) Stanton
8) Monfries
9) Slattery
10) Dyson
completely agree
bombre-boy
4 Aug 2009, 18:16
1. Watson
2. Winderlich
3. Lovett
4. Ryder
5. Pears or Stanton or Dyson
The Donners
4 Aug 2009, 18:23
Haha. Yes, you came to mind as soon as I mentioned the Stanton debate.
I've been as positive as I possibly could've been about him this season, towing the club line etc. but there comes a time when you have to call a spade a spade! ;)
Another year goes by, he's now 23 and he's played over 100 games. Is it 2 more seasons I have to wait until we realise how much time and money we've wasted on him?
Tony Delaney
5 Aug 2009, 22:10
1) Watson
2) Fletcher
3) Lovett
4) Winderlich
5) Ryder
Pretty much agree there.
Fletcher may have missed 6 but the ones he has played he has been superb. Watson has missed one or two also and been useless in another 2 or 3 so the gap may not be huge.
Slattery ahead of Fletcher was a funny post.
Jonesy1987
5 Aug 2009, 22:39
1. Watson
2. Lovett
3. Winderlich
4. Ryder
5. Fletcher/Pears
All will be revealed after Round 18 of the Crichton Medal Count.
I feel that posters have Ryder have too high in the voting.
stay true
6 Aug 2009, 12:42
Yeah I'm thinking pretty much whats been mentioned by everyone else.
Watson, Lovett, Winders probably top 3.
1) Watson
2) Ryder
3) Stanton
4) Winderlich
5) Lovett
All will be revealed after Round 18 of the Crichton Medal Count.
I feel that posters have Ryder have too high in the voting.
People have Lovett too high for mine.
Boucks09
6 Aug 2009, 13:50
I'm surprised that nobody has put Heath Hocking's name in the mix at all. He has played all but 2 games this season and has done an excellent job in the vast majority I would say.
I'm not sure how well Lovett will poll. He has been brilliant at times and been a match winner, but B&F's normally go to the team players and those that set up the match winners. Saying that he will still go top 5-7 I would expect.
Stants is a top 5 lock. End of discussion.
I think Ryder will also poll well given that he is a prove vote winner. Thinks like tackles rate very highly so I expect him to go top 5.
Winderlich for me will finish higher than Lovett. Although he has missed a couple of games, I feel he has been more consistent over the season.
Then we have Jobe. Although he has struggled in the last few weeks, he has clearly been out best player this season and should be rewarded with his first B&F (and captaincy perhaps).
1. Watson
2. Winderlich
3. Ryder
4. Stanton
5. Lovett
6. Lloyd
7. Fletcher
8. Dyson
9. Hocking
10. Pears
I'm surprised that nobody has put Heath Hocking's name in the mix at all. He has played all but 2 games this season and has done an excellent job in the vast majority I would say.
I'm not sure how well Lovett will poll. He has been brilliant at times and been a match winner, but B&F's normally go to the team players and those that set up the match winners. Saying that he will still go top 5-7 I would expect.
Stants is a top 5 lock. End of discussion.
I think Ryder will also poll well given that he is a prove vote winner. Thinks like tackles rate very highly so I expect him to go top 5.
Winderlich for me will finish higher than Lovett. Although he has missed a couple of games, I feel he has been more consistent over the season.
Then we have Jobe. Although he has struggled in the last few weeks, he has clearly been out best player this season and should be rewarded with his first B&F (and captaincy perhaps).
1. Watson
2. Winderlich
3. Ryder
4. Stanton
5. Lovett
6. Lloyd
7. Fletcher
8. Dyson
9. Hocking
10. Pears
Lovett has been super consistent all season which is what you need to poll well in a B and F.
Up to 8-10 players can receive votes each round.
You must be joking if you dont have Slattery in the Top 10.
TheBrownDog
7 Aug 2009, 01:19
Amazing the way that Andrew Lovett has turned his career around. Has been brilliant this year. From a selfish perspective I am very much relieved he isn't playing on Saturday.
qwertyboy
8 Aug 2009, 12:47
1- Paddy Ryder
2- Tayte Pears
3- Brent Stanton
4- Jobe Watson
5- Ricky Dyson
6- Jason Winderlich
7- Andrew Lovett
8- Matthew Lloyd
9- Heath Hocking
10-Dustin Fletcher
11- Angus Monfries
12- Adam McPhee