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apollo_creed
8 Aug 2009, 16:23
While 30 Rock is decent and reasonably funny (at best). It certainly isn't intelligently written, witty, hilarious or anywhere near worthy the accolades and awards it receives.
You'll struggle to find a more overrated show going around today.
While I'd **** Tina Fey until my dick fell off, her writing talent doesn't equate to her ****ability level.
I agree it's mildly amusing but that's it. Agree about Tina Fey as well.
Many rate The Office (US) highly as well but I don't find it funny at all. Some light chuckles here and there but it's mostly meh.
Wahooti Fandango
8 Aug 2009, 17:10
What exactly do you like apollo? You seem to hate everyone and everything.
apollo_creed
8 Aug 2009, 17:16
What exactly do you like apollo? You seem to hate everyone and everything.
I didn't say I hated the show. I said it was decent.
It's nothing more than that.
Honestly, compare 30 Rock to Curb Your Enthusiam. One is intelligently written, provocative and innovative. The other is 30 Rock.
30 Rock isn't too different to Family Guy. Except nowhere near as funny. Their flashbacks are obvious rip offs.
My point is that it's nominated for a ridiculous number of awards and it just isn't that funny or good.
The writing is average. Very average.
Almost like it's put together by an 8 year old.
I don't hate the show but it's B-Grade. Obviously so.
Wahooti Fandango
8 Aug 2009, 17:30
I didn't say I hated the show. I said it was decent.
It's nothing more than that.
Honestly, compare 30 Rock to Curb Your Enthusiam. One is intelligently written, provocative and innovative. The other is 30 Rock.
30 Rock isn't too different to Family Guy. Except nowhere near as funny. Their flashbacks are obvious rip offs.
My point is that it's nominated for a ridiculous number of awards and it just isn't that funny or good.
The writing is average. Very average.
Almost like it's put together by an 8 year old.
I don't hate the show but it's B-Grade. Obviously so.
Now that you explain your reasoning you come off as less of a whinger and more of a critic. ;) :D
Goobernutty
8 Aug 2009, 17:34
I don't particularly find it all that funny either, just not my style of comedy I guess.
September_Glory
8 Aug 2009, 17:53
Completely agree Appollo!
I think the number of awards speaks to the dearth of good comedies more than anything. I mean, what else is out there?
Two and a Half Men? Recent seasons are just terrible.
Weeds? fallen away to the point I can't watch anymore.
The Office hasn't been The Office since they've dumbed it down.
How I Met Your Mother? great at first but got stale very quickly.
I don't count Family Guy. It's just something I watch when I'm blazed.
I don't get the Tina Fey thing. She's got that quirky, nerdy thing going for her, but she's not very attractive in my eyes.
Alec Baldwin deserves his award though. He delivers his lines like few can.
What was your opinion on Season 3? I thought it was average at best, like a 5/10.
matt_897
8 Aug 2009, 18:16
Compared to most of the other crap there is out there, this is the best show in the universe. I admit the show can have it's generally lame episodes at times but some are comedy gold. Tell me what show is funnier? I'd admit i haven't seen enough of Curb to comment.
I think it's one of the better comedies in recent years, rate it highly over other efforts - rules of engagement, two and a half men, big bang theory, the office - there's not much competition :p.
It pales in comparison with the likes of Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld, Curbed etc.
I also agree, i thought season 3 was the worst of the lot... started off good, but fizzled out towards the end.
I'd still do Tina Fey, i know someone who could be a dead ringer for her... if she wore glasses more often i'd...... :p
Saint KFC
8 Aug 2009, 18:35
Tell me what show is funnier? I'd admit i haven't seen enough of Curb to comment.
Arrested Development
Curb
Seinfeld
Simpsons (Early)
Futurama
Mighty Boosh
Chasers War on Everything
The Office UK
Need I go on?
September_Glory
8 Aug 2009, 18:52
Arrested Development
Curb
Seinfeld
Simpsons (Early)
Futurama
Mighty Boosh
Chasers War on Everything
The Office UK
Need I go on?
Extras
Scrubs (Seasons 1-4)
Arrested Development. I know you listed it at the top, but it deserves another mention.
Plenty of better comedies. :)
Anyone mentioned Arrested Development?
TBH I really enjoy watching 30 Rock, not the best show on TV but I get enough laughs out of it to come back most weeks.
Alec Baldwin deserves his award though. He delivers his lines like few can.
No doubt he excels at comedy. He was brilliant in an episode of Friends and was also good in Will & Grace.
I think i am preaching to the right crowd here when i say Tina Fey is a ****ing sex kitten.
I don't know what it is but i am deeply attracted to this woman. I'd like to say it's cause i am of above average intelligence and i appreciate her cutting sense of humour but those glasses and her nerdlinger demeanour... i'm in love. Can i get an amen?
Team Mo'
9 Aug 2009, 04:48
I don't really get it. Watched probably 3-4 episodes and am yet to really LOL. Just seems to be a repeated every week...
I don't really get it. Watched probably 3-4 episodes and am yet to really LOL. Just seems to be a repeated every week...
Season 1 is where it starts and is only learning its craft, season 2 is an improvement and its gets a lot funnier, by season 3 it gets really good.
apollo_creed
9 Aug 2009, 11:02
I think i am preaching to the right crowd here when i say Tina Fey is a ****ing sex kitten.
I don't know what it is but i am deeply attracted to this woman. I'd like to say it's cause i am of above average intelligence and i appreciate her cutting sense of humour but those glasses and her nerdlinger demeanour... i'm in love. Can i get an amen?
She doesn't have a 'cutting sense of humour'.
The jokes in 30 Rock are relayed for an early teenage audience.
Crosby87
9 Aug 2009, 12:36
It's not great, but it's worth a watch.
Better than most crap you'll see on television these days. I watched the pilot just after it aired in the US, and didn't take to it too much (I really only watched it for Tina Fey, who I had a crush on since SNL, I see I'm not alone in that).
I bought the season one DVD, and didn't touch it for like two years. This isn't uncommon, as it usually takes me a while to get around to things. (I'm doing the same with Mad Men at the moment). But, I watched it a while back and promptly got season two.
I don't buy into the whole "it's not as great as Curb or Arrested Development or Seinfeld or The Office" etc. etc. argument. That being the case, it doesn't mean it isn't watchable, not in the least. While I wholeheartedly disagree with the awards it has won (sans Baldwin, who is just quality), it's not a bad show by any stretch of the imagination.
Bomber Bears
9 Aug 2009, 13:29
Only seen one episode it seemed ok
Arrested Development is by far the best show of the decade, and probably previous decades also.
Weeds? fallen away to the point I can't watch anymore.
Ain't that the truth. I packed that in after watching the first episode of this season, struggled through last season. Really couldn't be bothered any more.
Not too disappointed though, replaced Weeds with Hung.
Yeah I agree, 30 Rock is massively overrated. Baldwin is funny, but other than that I don't really get any laughs from the show.
Arrested Development is great and underrated in terms of viewer numbers but overrated by its fans. To say its easily the best show in the last 20 years is silly.
apollo_creed
9 Aug 2009, 22:54
Agree with everybody re; Baldwin. he's brilliant in the show.
the dude who plays the nbc assistant (I forgot what his job is called) isn't too bad.
the receptionist is ****ing sweet to look at. as is fey.
apart from those mentioned there's not much.
I've seen Season 1 and most of Season 2.
the guest actors who I found to be good were Liz's horrible boyfriend and the mega gay executive guy who wants to bone kenneth.
the rest of the characters? no thanks.
the writing? average.
Bomber Bears
9 Aug 2009, 23:58
Yeah I agree, 30 Rock is massively overrated. Baldwin is funny, but other than that I don't really get any laughs from the show.
Arrested Development is great and underrated in terms of viewer numbers but overrated by its fans. To say its easily the best show in the last 20 years is silly.Whats better than it?
I dont generally watch dramas or crime shows, so if you go comedy only I would only have Simpsons seasons 1-10(or so), Blackadder and Fawlty Towers and the last two are debateable. MontyPythons Flying Circus was supurb but had alot of 'miss' sketches and The Young Ones was also a good show but not near the level of AD.
matty p
10 Aug 2009, 00:21
I rate Seinfeld as the best show of the last 20 years and can't see how Arrested Development gets close to it, but everyone has their opinions.
magtrev
10 Aug 2009, 09:22
I'll agree it's not ever going to be a classic, but its one of the best of a bad bunch going around atm.
Plus Tina Fey is hawt, I think its the glasses.
UpForGrabs
10 Aug 2009, 18:34
OP is way off.
30 Rock is full of the best one-liners since the Simpsons.
Maybe because there's no laugh track people don't know what's supposed to be funny.
"He bit Dakota Fanning in the Face"
"Yeah, but if you hear his side of the story she was kinda asking for it"
"Me and my wife like to play rape"
"We're lovers"
"Wow, the only time I like to hear that word is when it's between "meat" and "pizza""
"Thank you Jack Donaghy! I'm going to make you a mixtape. You like Phil Collins?"
"I've got two ears and a heart don't I?"
"I love you so much I'm going to take you behind the middle school and get you pregnant."
"He called me the name that rhymes with the name of your favourite Todd Rundgren album"
"It rhymes with Hermit of Mink Hollow?"
Shit, I love this show.
OP is way off.
30 Rock is full of the best one-liners since the Simpsons.
Maybe because there's no laugh track people don't know what's supposed to be funny.
I agree. It is one of the few shows currently on TV that make me laugh out loud.
Not going to be a classic? It's an instant classic!
Yes Arrested Development and some others are as good or better, but they're different shows and no longer in production.
AndyLesPaul
10 Aug 2009, 20:17
I'm having deja vu here, I've seen a great tv show get a thread posted up, whilst having "overrated" in the title.
Dr Spaceman will fix you.
Dr Spaceman is brilliant
Tracy Jordan: Doctor Spaceman, when they check my DNA, will they tell me what diseases I might get, or help me to remember my ATM pin code?
Dr. Leo Spaceman: Absolutely. Science is whatever we want it to be.
Strachuniee
10 Aug 2009, 21:23
I agree. It is one of the few shows currently on TV that make me laugh out loud.
Not going to be a classic? It's an instant classic!
Yes Arrested Development and some others are as good or better, but they're different shows and no longer in production.
Totally agree with this post. 30 rock is one of the better shows going around atm. I have only seen seasons 1 and 2 but its quality laugh out loud stuff. Granted its no Seinfeld of AD, but these shows have set an extremely high benchmark to judge against.
P.A.F.C
10 Aug 2009, 21:35
Dr Spaceman is brilliant
Tracy Jordan: Doctor Spaceman, when they check my DNA, will they tell me what diseases I might get, or help me to remember my ATM pin code?
Dr. Leo Spaceman: Absolutely. Science is whatever we want it to be.
Hahaha Spaceman is tops :thumbsu:
Disagree with the OP. Great TV.
Tracy Jordan: [Recording new promos for The Girlie Show] Hi, I'm Tracy Jordan, and I'm bringing the black back to NBC. And I'm proud as a peacork, baby.
Liz Lemon: That's great Tracy but it's peacock.
Tracy Jordan: What I say?
Liz Lemon: Peacork.
Tracy Jordan: Peacock. Think peaCOCK. Right, Jenna?
Stage Manager: In 3, 2...
Tracy Jordan: Hi, I'm Tracy Jordan, and I'm bringing the black back to NBC. And I'm proud as a peaCOCK, baby.
Liz Lemon: Okay. That time I think you may have hit it a little bit too hard. Also can you throw Jenna's name in there for me?
Stage Manager: In 3, 2...
Tracy Jordan: Hi, I'm Tracy Jordan, and I'm bringing the black back to NBC. Right, Jenna Malvangany?
Liz Lemon: Maroney, rhymes with baloney.
Stage Manager: In 3, 2...
Tracy Jordan: Hi, I'm Tracy Jordan, and I'm bringing the black back to NBC. And I'm proud as a peacock. Right, my baloney?
Liz Lemon: Nope.
Stage Manager: In 3, 2...
Tracy Jordan: Hi, I'm Tracy Jordan. I'm black NBC. Very proud, like peacocks. Right, Janet?
[end of take]
Tracy Jordan: I think we got it! I think we got it!
Jack: Yep, I think we did.
Plugger35
10 Aug 2009, 22:39
Yeah 30 Rock doesn't strike me as anything special, just another of the many 'run of the mill' US sitcoms around. It's maybe slightly better than the average crap they churn out like Two and a Half Men, but hardly groundbreaking stuff worthy of all the awards and acclaim it has got.
For me it's Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm equal first then daylight second. Simpsons, South Park and Family Guy are all up there too but as animated shows they probably belong in a different category.
apollo_creed
10 Aug 2009, 22:42
OP is way off.
30 Rock is full of the best one-liners since the Simpsons.
Maybe because there's no laugh track people don't know what's supposed to be funny.
"He bit Dakota Fanning in the Face"
"Yeah, but if you hear his side of the story she was kinda asking for it"
"Me and my wife like to play rape"
"We're lovers"
"Wow, the only time I like to hear that word is when it's between "meat" and "pizza""
"Thank you Jack Donaghy! I'm going to make you a mixtape. You like Phil Collins?"
"I've got two ears and a heart don't I?"
"I love you so much I'm going to take you behind the middle school and get you pregnant."
"He called me the name that rhymes with the name of your favourite Todd Rundgren album"
"It rhymes with Hermit of Mink Hollow?"
Shit, I love this show.
Right....
You've just posted a series of mostly shit quotes that I've seen in context.
Well done. :rolleyes:
apollo_creed
10 Aug 2009, 22:44
Right....
You've just posted a series of mostly shit quotes that I've seen in context.
Well done. :rolleyes:
Oh and that's another thing - come up with your own ideas Tina Fey!
Her saying the wrong thing to black people routine is exactly the same as Larry David's in Curb Your Enthusiam and LD's came first. It's the most obvious plagarism you're ever likely to see.
She is not a talented writer.
The show is incredibly average, there are few laugh out loud moments and if it wasn't for Baldwin the show would be really, really shit.
apollo_creed
10 Aug 2009, 22:45
Totally agree with this post. 30 rock is one of the better shows going around atm. I have only seen seasons 1 and 2 but its quality laugh out loud stuff. Granted its no Seinfeld of AD, but these shows have set an extremely high benchmark to judge against.
It's at about 3rd Rock from the Sun's level.
That's its late 90's/early 00's equivalent.
And that's a fact.
SunKing
10 Aug 2009, 23:27
Right....
You've just posted a series of mostly shit quotes that I've seen in context.
Well done. :rolleyes:
I hear ya.
Some of those quotes are According To Jim level.
Real cutting edge stuff.
completely disagree, this show is awesome... Baldwin is brilliant, Fey isn't amazing, but she does her job, Tracey will always bring something, Kenneth is great, while Jenna is a little annoying she does her job and the rest of the cast fit in fine...
one of my favourite shows, people are obviously comparing it to great comedy, but it's up there for mine...
comparing it to 3rd rock from the sun is laughable...
apollo_creed
11 Aug 2009, 12:12
completely disagree, this show is awesome... Baldwin is brilliant, Fey isn't amazing, but she does her job, Tracey will always bring something, Kenneth is great, while Jenna is a little annoying she does her job and the rest of the cast fit in fine...
one of my favourite shows, people are obviously comparing it to great comedy, but it's up there for mine...
comparing it to 3rd rock from the sun is laughable...
you think this show is up there with 'great comedy'?
says more about you than it does about the show.
matty p
11 Aug 2009, 16:42
My nomination for the most UNDERRATED comedy is It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Such a hilarious show, it's on Channel 7 Mondays 11.30pm for anyone who hasn't seen it.
buzzbuzz
11 Aug 2009, 19:10
It's a shame that people don't enjoy this show. It might just .. I don't know. Not appeal to certain people? The writing is superb, and so is the acting. Tina Fey is probably the least funny of the main characters, with Jack 1st and Tracey 2nd. It's not overrated, it's genuinely good. If you're in the minority who dislike it, hey that's fine. Just don't call it overrated because you personally don't get it. For reference, I love Arrested Development, Scrubs, Seinfeld, Curb, Office, Extras, Larry Sanders and comedy in general.
Incredibly quotable and I laughed out loud at some posted in this thread. It's odd, all the criticisms found here are just.. I just disagree. There's no way to prove that this is a good show or a bad one, because all you can say is 'I like it' or 'I dislike it', or 'It's poorly written' or 'It's well-written'.
apollo_creed
11 Aug 2009, 23:07
I could give you an example of an intelligently written comedy if you like?
One thing 30 Rock isn't and will never be is intelligently written. Which doesn't necessarily disqualify it from being a brilliant show because other factors determine a shows brilliance as well.
wce_all_da_way
11 Aug 2009, 23:27
My nomination for the most UNDERRATED comedy is It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Such a hilarious show, it's on Channel 7 Mondays 11.30pm for anyone who hasn't seen it.
Definitely. Best show on TV... when it is shown.
My nomination for the most UNDERRATED comedy is It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Such a hilarious show, it's on Channel 7 Mondays 11.30pm for anyone who hasn't seen it.
This week it will be on then... Then it'll be on wednesdays at Midnight, then it'll be off for a month...
Just like seven did with 30 rock, have done with scrubs in the past, can't rely on them showing these type of shows with any frequency...
Macca19
11 Aug 2009, 23:37
Ive only seen season 1 but I found it pretty witty, funny and better than your average US sitcom.
Still dont understand all the love for Arrested Development....though I havent seen many episodes.
matty p
11 Aug 2009, 23:45
This week it will be on then... Then it'll be on wednesdays at Midnight, then it'll be off for a month...
Just like seven did with 30 rock, have done with scrubs in the past, can't rely on them showing these type of shows with any frequency...
They're actualy doing pretty well for their standards at the moment with It's Always Sunny. They've had it on for about the last 4 weeks at the same time (Monday 11.30pm).
SunKing
11 Aug 2009, 23:48
Still dont understand all the love for Arrested Development....though I havent seen many episodes.
I'm the same watched a few eps and didn't find it that funny.
Saint KFC
12 Aug 2009, 01:02
Maybe you should try watching more than a "few eps"? Also make sure you're watching it in chronological order, starting with the pilot.
It's a great litmus test for intelligence and sense of humour though.
Tina Fey is probably the least funny of the main characters, with Jack 1st and Tracey 2nd.
I HATE TRACEY JORDAN, find him to be the most irritating on the show and on tv in recent years (up there with the likes of REAL characters like Kochie and Karl "Mr Roboto" Stefanovic :p
It's all about Jack, Kenneth and Liz (to a degree) :thumbsu:
Macca19
12 Aug 2009, 10:17
Maybe you should try watching more than a "few eps"? Also make sure you're watching it in chronological order, starting with the pilot.
It's a great litmus test for intelligence and sense of humour though.
I watched the first three episodes on Fox when it first came on a few years back, after it had a huge advertising campaign and didnt really find it all that geniusly funny, so i let it slide.
Now that everyone holds it up as some model of comic genius ill have to re-watch to see what ive missed out on.
Plugger35
12 Aug 2009, 15:16
I HATE TRACEY JORDAN, find him to be the most irritating on the show and on tv in recent years (up there with the likes of REAL characters like Kochie and Karl "Mr Roboto" Stefanovic :p
It's all about Jack, Kenneth and Liz (to a degree) :thumbsu:
You mean Tracey Morgan? Yeah I've always found him annoying and unfunny too, going back to when he used to be a regular on SNL. Not sure how he keeps getting a gig on all these comedy shows. He must be buddies with Tina Fey or something.
As for Arrested Development, I'm not really a big fan of that either. Watched a couple of episodes when everyone was raving about it but I never really got into it. Seemed to be more quirky than genuinely laugh out loud funny.
Bulldog1954
12 Aug 2009, 16:26
Its not bad, much better then most of the other garbage out there (How I met your Mother, Rules of engagement etc are an embarassment) but has nothing on past shows like Seinfeld and the office (UK)
Invigoration
12 Aug 2009, 16:52
My nomination for the most UNDERRATED comedy is It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Such a hilarious show, it's on Channel 7 Mondays 11.30pm for anyone who hasn't seen it.
Easily one of the best and most under appreciated shows on TV, some of the story lines they take are priceless. Deserves far more respect than it gets.
Ive only seen season 1 but I found it pretty witty, funny and better than your average US sitcom.
Still dont understand all the love for Arrested Development....though I havent seen many episodes.
This is the exact reason why it was cancelled. People watch it sporadically, watching two or three episodes from random points in the show, and without the ability to understand any of the long standing jokes they can it.
Meh, their loss though :thumbsu:
On topic, 30 Rock is decent, I enjoy it when I'm hungover on Sunday's and when I'm just lazing around, but it probably is a tad overrated. Still I have no qualms with it, and if this became the expected standard for comedy's in the States I would be pretty stoked.
Bomber Bears
12 Aug 2009, 19:10
Yeah Arrested development has to be watched in order to see it in all its glory, it all fits together alot better that way.
MC Bad Genius
13 Aug 2009, 00:31
Damn. I love this show and have seen the first 2 seasons at least 4 times now. I don't get why the OP thinks its poorly written? I thought that the writing is pretty sharp and the episodes are really well-structured and move along at a good pace. And I think its aimed at a higher level of comedy than other current comedies ie pitched more at the viewers of AD, Curb and Its Alway Sunny etc., rather than According to Jim and How I Met Your Mother etc.
My one main gripe is the actress that plays all the bit parts (the cat lady, the maid on the boat, Liz Taylor, the thing that freaks out Tracy etc). She annoys the crap out of me.
As everyone in this thread seems to agree, Alec Baldwin is freaking hilarious.
And my favourite minor character is Dr Spaceman. The first time he came on, I thought he was going to be an annoying character, but I have never failed to laugh stupidly in every scene he is in.
UpForGrabs
13 Aug 2009, 12:15
My one main gripe is the actress that plays all the bit parts (the cat lady, the maid on the boat, Liz Taylor, the thing that freaks out Tracy etc). She annoys the crap out of me.
That's Rachel Dratch.
Coincidentally, she and Tina Fey left SNL at the same time to do '30 Rock', with Fey writing and starring, but Dratch was to play the Jenna Maroney character (the Liz/Jenna dynamic is based on the Fey/Dratch friendship apparently).
The pilot episode (which is floating around), reflects this (no Jane Krakowski) but the network wanted Dratch out for the season itself... which is why she got relegated to the bit parts.
DoubleA
13 Aug 2009, 16:08
My one main gripe is the actress that plays all the bit parts (the cat lady, the maid on the boat, Liz Taylor, the thing that freaks out Tracy etc). She annoys the crap out of me.
If thats your main gripe keep watching, she barely appears in season 2 or 3.
Juggalo Balla
13 Aug 2009, 17:16
Good show propped up by Tina and Alec and the star appearances.
The rest of the original cast is meh.
Big tits peurorican chick was a win :D
Coincidentally, she and Tina Fey left SNL at the same time to do '30 Rock', with Fey writing and starring, but Dratch was to play the Jenna Maroney character
Initially Tina Fey wasn't going to star in the show, she just wanted to write it, but NBC insisted that she appear in the pilot... Obviously that went well, and she was cast permanently...
MC Bad Genius
14 Aug 2009, 12:58
That's Rachel Dratch.
Coincidentally, she and Tina Fey left SNL at the same time to do '30 Rock', with Fey writing and starring, but Dratch was to play the Jenna Maroney character (the Liz/Jenna dynamic is based on the Fey/Dratch friendship apparently).
The pilot episode (which is floating around), reflects this (no Jane Krakowski) but the network wanted Dratch out for the season itself... which is why she got relegated to the bit parts.
If thats your main gripe keep watching, she barely appears in season 2 or 3.
Wow. That would have made the show awful. I mean, I think Jenna is an annoying character, but that's the point - and I think she is played perfectly by Jane Krakowski.
And I've got season 2 on DVD so I know she isn't in it that much ... but every time she is, it just annoys me.
Wow. That would have made the show awful. I mean, I think Jenna is an annoying character, but that's the point - and I think she is played perfectly by Jane Krakowski.
Agree, she is annoying, but that's the point...
Like when she breaks into song in the elevator, because Kenneth is getting all the attention... That's her character to a tee...
I'd watch half an hour of Tina Fey watching paint dry,i don't care.As long as Tina is in it,i'm going along for the ride.
buzzbuzz
16 Aug 2009, 00:42
I'd watch half an hour of Tina Fey watching paint dry,i don't care.As long as Tina is in it,i'm going along for the ride.
Seconded.
Lurker1
16 Aug 2009, 02:49
Thirded
The rest of the original cast is meh.
You're saying Kenneth is "meh"? Really?
apollo_creed
17 Aug 2009, 11:33
You're saying Kenneth is "meh"? Really?
Kenneth is funny.
As is the super gay exec dude.
RobbyRoy
17 Aug 2009, 22:27
I'm a 30 Rock fan but I don't find Kenneth funny at all.
Cousin Jed
2 Dec 2009, 10:35
Been watching some of this on TV1 the last couple of weeks, (showing season 1 atm) someone said it gets better. Well I would hope so. I generally get 2 really laugh out loud moments, then the rest of the time is just nothing. Not seeing what all the fuss is about so far.
"Thank you Jack Donaghy! I'm going to make you a mixtape. You like Phil Collins?"
"I've got two ears and a heart don't I?"
I laughed (Was on last night's episode).
apollo_creed
2 Dec 2009, 16:19
Been watching some of this on TV1 the last couple of weeks, (showing season 1 atm) someone said it gets better. Well I would hope so. I generally get 2 really laugh out loud moments, then the rest of the time is just nothing. Not seeing what all the fuss is about so far.
I laughed (Was on last night's episode).
It really isn't funny.
It's one of those shows which never is really genuinely funny but to compensate this fans will say 'it's intelligently written'. it's actualyl written with crayons by baboons if you look beyond the character acting of alec baldwin.
Compared to Eastbound and Down this show is written by members of Mensa.
DeadlyAkkuret
3 Dec 2009, 03:08
I didn't say I hated the show. I said it was decent.
It's nothing more than that.
Honestly, compare 30 Rock to Curb Your Enthusiam. One is intelligently written, provocative and innovative. The other is 30 Rock.
30 Rock isn't too different to Family Guy. Except nowhere near as funny. Their flashbacks are obvious rip offs.
My point is that it's nominated for a ridiculous number of awards and it just isn't that funny or good.
The writing is average. Very average.
Almost like it's put together by an 8 year old.
I don't hate the show but it's B-Grade. Obviously so.
So it's decent, but it's nowhere near as funny as Family Guy (which sucks), it isn't funny or good, it's very average and an 8 year old could have put it together.
I'm not defending it, but why bother saying it's decent when you quite clearly don't think it's decent based on this post.
Magpiespower
3 Dec 2009, 07:05
Just watched series one.
Starts off slow. Hated the first few eps. Eventually comes good.
Alec Baldwin the obvious standout. Who knew he was so funny?
Overall: no classic but pretty solid.
Of the other shows mentioned in this thread...
Curb series 6 is very tired. Entourage series 5 is a stinker. Jumps the shark late in that run. Family Guy is painfully unfunny (though I did like Blue Harvest).
Arrested Development is arguably the best TV comedy this decade. Really hope that don't make that movie. Not sure where they can go with it. Or how it will translate on the big screen...
Plugger35
3 Dec 2009, 09:46
Alec Baldwin the obvious standout. Who knew he was so funny?
He's been a regular guest on SNL for years and was always very funny on that show, he was actually funnier than the majority of the cast members. I imagine that's the reason Tina Fey roped him into doing 30 Rock.
30 Rock has some good moments but it seems it is quite happy to travel along in second gear. I am quite happy watching it but it only has a minimal amount of witty gags.
Another thing that annoys me is that they are not willing to change the formula at all. Other than Tracey coming into the show early nothing has really happened. It is just like 2 and a half men where the only way you can tell the difference between series is the age of the kid. Compare this to higher quality sitcoms such as Curb, Peep Show, Arrested Development, The Office etc. which have all had plot progression to a certain extent and you can see the difference in writing quality.
Thirded
Fourtheth.
It really isn't funny.
It's one of those shows which never is really genuinely funny but to compensate this fans will say 'it's intelligently written'. it's actualyl written with crayons by baboons if you look beyond the character acting of alec baldwin.
Are you serious? Never genuinely funny you say - don't know what you've been watching but I've been doubled over laughing hard at this show plenty of times. It is a rare show - intelligently written and genuinely funny.
I like it, but it's a little overrated. Very watchable though.
Still, no way it should have trumped Weeds in the Emmys (can't remember which categories) which, IMO, is far far superior.
apollo_creed
7 Dec 2009, 22:30
Fourtheth.
Are you serious? Never genuinely funny you say - don't know what you've been watching but I've been doubled over laughing hard at this show plenty of times. It is a rare show - intelligently written and genuinely funny.
intelligently written and genuinely funny?
speaks poorly of your comedic perception then.
now run along. go and watch twilight again.
Ive only seen the first season, and after the first 4-5 episodes it starts to find itself and does become pretty funny. Its not the funniest show ive seen, but its quirky and usually brings a chuckle or two an episode.
MC Bad Genius
8 Dec 2009, 07:25
intelligently written and genuinely funny?
speaks poorly of your comedic perception then.
now run along. go and watch twilight again.
So anyone that finds 30 Rock intelligently written and genuinely funny loves Twilight? That doesn't even make any sense at all ...... aaaaahhhhh, you were making a joke. Oh. I'm so sorry you speak poorly of my comedic perception.
Bomber Bears
8 Dec 2009, 12:50
Its a decent show, it isnt in the upper echelon of comedy (Arrested Development) but it is well above the dross (two and a half men). Cant stand Kenneth or Jenna and Tracey isnt particularly funny, but Tina and Jack are hilarious and Pete is pretty funny as well
ExTasDeeMan
8 Dec 2009, 13:47
Run of the mill.
DoubleA
17 Jan 2010, 19:50
cant be bothered searching for the proper thread, but the first episode this week back s04e09 was friggin hilarious. james franco was awesome, and liz really is starting to assert herself.