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Australia stand to lose substantially more than their aura over the next month. An Ashes series defeat would precipitate a stunning fall from grace by relegating Ricky Ponting's men to fourth place on the ICC Test ladder behind South Africa, Sri Lanka and India. A drawn series will place them second after Graeme Smith's men.
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/417917.html
This will be very good.
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/417917.html
This will be very good.
A few things:
1) This article has been around for a few days; why bring it up now?
2) You're stating the obvious - any team shorn of the services of McGrath/Warne/Hayden, etc. would lose some of their aura. In some cases, however, aura means hype. Brett Lee has a definite aura - it's just that he hasn't really earnt it.
3) South Africa went through something like this before, only they lost about three or four players over a two year period, rather than seven or so (Cullinan, Rhodes, Donald, Kirsten and to an extent Pollock). What happened? They went down the tubes for a few years.</p>
Australia arent as good as some people think, South Africa are the best team in the world at the moment.
That's my point, it will happen.
Bennycoff
10 Aug 2009, 19:43
We know we're not the best team in the world, but geez we are still number one and have been a top side for an extended period of time. We even beat the supposed best team in South Africa at their home ground after they beat us at our home. Just goes to show how good we still are. We are still top 2 in the world with South Africa.
Punchy Bassett
10 Aug 2009, 19:54
Why is it South African's are always trying to convince everyone how good they are?
Why is it Australians who keep on saying they are number one?
Punchy Bassett
10 Aug 2009, 20:03
Why is it Australians who keep on saying they are number one?
According to your OP if we win at the Oval we will be :confused: So what's your point?
King Elvis
10 Aug 2009, 20:07
Australia arent as good as some people think, South Africa are the best team in the world at the moment.
That's my point, it will happen.
Australia & South Africa are neck and neck for the best side in the world.
We are currently the #1 side in the World though, aren't we?
Cousin Jed
10 Aug 2009, 20:08
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_zone/team_ranking.php
Cotchin 9
10 Aug 2009, 20:17
TeamMatchesPointsRating1Australia2531061242South Africa303672122
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Australia arent as good as some people think, South Africa are the best team in the world at the moment.
That's my point, it will happen.
You underestimate Australia's ability to rise again and again, losing good/great players to retirement only uncovers other gems hidden in Australia's cricketing goldfields.
Yes, Hauritz is clearly a gem.
TassieSaint
10 Aug 2009, 20:39
didn't you say something similar before the series in south africa? how'd that work out for you hahaha.
australia number 1 :thumbsu:
sumavich
10 Aug 2009, 21:15
Australia arent as good as some people think, South Africa are the best team in the world at the moment.
That's my point, it will happen.
Mate, we beat Sth Africa in Sth Africa in a series no-one thought we would win, me included.
Ozzie number 1, and will be when we beat the Poms in London !!http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
Jimthegreat
10 Aug 2009, 21:17
Why is it Australians who keep on saying they are number one?
Well it's certainly not south Africa because we beat you losers. We lose near 3/4 of our team with retirement and still beat you while rebuilding.
You can go now. Your side is obviously useless.
We beat you guys here, you beat us there. That's great.
You have won 5 out of the last 14 or so tests.
That's shocking and not a ranked 1 team.
frankrizzo
10 Aug 2009, 21:46
In my opinion there is no clear number 1 in test cricket right now which is reflected in the rankings.
based on one test next week Australia could stay 1 or fall as far as fourth that's a pretty good sign that nobody is going to dominate the top spot for the next few years.
Punchy Bassett
10 Aug 2009, 21:52
We beat you guys here, you beat us there. That's great.
You have won 5 out of the last 14 or so tests.
That's shocking and not a ranked 1 team.
And yet again if we win next week the official stats, the same stats you want to use to prove South Africa are number one if we don't, will say we are.
So again, what's your point? Stop contradicting yourself.
Power21
10 Aug 2009, 22:02
I agree quite a weird thread.
Come on here saying we aren't number one blah blah then gives us a table and says we still are if we win at the oval?
Puzzling troll attempt.
Wallaby
10 Aug 2009, 22:13
There is no Test Championship - the points situation is rubbish. No one plays test matches for Ranking Points. It is made up for sponsors.
If you want to be the best in the world, you have to beat the best in the world. Preferably on their home ground. I would also accept beating them on your home ground and then drawing on theirs.
So SA were the best in the world after beating us in Aus last year - and then we took it back. If the Poms beat us here, they can be No 1 if no one beats them between now and the next Ashes in Aus and they either beat us or draw.
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/417917.html
This will be very good.
given that the weather in the UK is crap most of the time a drawn game is more often than not on the cards. thus making the stats you talk of irrelevant.................................................. ............................:rolleyes:
spookism
10 Aug 2009, 22:20
We beat you guys here, you beat us there. That's great.
You have won 5 out of the last 14 or so tests.
That's shocking and not a ranked 1 team.
4 of 6 Series wins, 7th Series pending versus 4-1-1(draw) including TWO series against Bangladesh.
South Africa are a great side at the moment no doubt, but to rubbish Australia like that is a wee bit silly!
4 of 6 Series wins, 7th Series pending versus 4-1-1(draw) including TWO series against Bangladesh.
South Africa are a great side at the moment no doubt, but to rubbish Australia like that is a wee bit silly!
especially if you live here:rolleyes:
I agree quite a weird thread.
Come on here saying we aren't number one blah blah then gives us a table and says we still are if we win at the oval?
Puzzling troll attempt.
Not really - CrazyQ is a diehard SA fan.
Corrosion
10 Aug 2009, 23:11
Well, if we got to play Bangladesh and Zimbabwe a lot, like South Africa do and have, we'd be miles and miles out in front.
Just need a draw now.
Then the right team will be 1.
TimeIsRunningOut
10 Aug 2009, 23:51
Feel sorry for the Saffer. He knows his mob has (and always will) crumble when presented with the opportunity, so he has to pray another country does the work for them. They've had a couple of chances to pinch the top ranking themselves. New Year's test? ****ed it up. Home series against Australia? ****ed it up. It's the South African way.
Belnakor
11 Aug 2009, 00:32
Well, if we got to play Bangladesh and Zimbabwe a lot, like South Africa do and have, we'd be miles and miles out in front.
thats not how the system works.
Sri Lanka and India have bad records away from home, i'm suprised they are up there
Hawks1523
11 Aug 2009, 00:47
Just need a draw now.
Then the right team will be 1.
I thought a draw would make us lose the number #1 spot. ;)
And according to those rankings provided by CJ, we play 5 less games and are still ahead of you.
I thought a draw would make us lose the number #1 spot. ;)
And according to those rankings provided by CJ, we play 5 less games and are still ahead of you.
by the right team,he means South Africa:confused:
courtjester
11 Aug 2009, 12:29
Just need a draw now.
Then the right team will be 1.
Interestingly, you could be the number 1 team NOW if you were good enough to beat us in South Africa. You weren't though.
So, in order to take the number 1 spot from us you need to rely on us drawing with England? What a hollow victory for you guys.
Although, South African cricket has always been about hollow victories.
Hawks1523
11 Aug 2009, 14:09
by the right team,he means South Africa:confused:
I know, I was saying that Australia are the right team, not South Africa.
I know, I was saying that Australia are the right team, not South Africa.
YEP! I see it now:cool:
Power21
11 Aug 2009, 18:31
Interestingly, you could be the number 1 team NOW if you were good enough to beat us in South Africa. You weren't though.
So, in order to take the number 1 spot from us you need to rely on us drawing with England? What a hollow victory for you guys.
Although, South African cricket has always been about hollow victories.
Excellent point and pretty much takes any glory they can get from it.
dan warna
15 Aug 2009, 08:28
Australia arent as good as some people think, South Africa are the best team in the world at the moment.
That's my point, it will happen.
ROFL
even Australia on the decline ahead of RSA and England.
crownie
15 Aug 2009, 08:53
Why is it Australians who keep on saying they are number one?
maybe i am on a different planet but didnt Australia beat S.A on their home turf last time that played a test series :rolleyes:
TheColeTrain
15 Aug 2009, 11:57
Pretty sad that South Africa has to rely on somebody else to become number 1, they had the chance earlier this year but got pumped by the best team in the world when it was on the line in the first two tests in South Africa