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GoEagles
21 Mar 2003, 18:25
Discuss the FINAL of the 2003 World Cup of Cricket between Australia and India on this thread.
Well folks, after 6 weeks, 54 scheduled games with 2 that never took place, a host nation yet again struggling to make the final of a World Cup, a non test playing nation making not only the Super Sixes but the Semi Final, a record for the best Individual Bowling at a World Cup, a number of hat-tricks, the emergence of Billy Bowden and the departure of several champions of the game... the final is upon us!
On Sunday, the 8th World Cup of Cricket final will be played as a day game from Johannesburg. Both Australia and India have won the World Cup before (Australia - 1987, 1999), India (1983). For Australia, they will be hoping to be the second team since the West Indies, to win back-to-back World Cup titles.
It will be a different Australian side that India last saw when they played in Durban on the 16th February. Jason Gillespie, the destroyer of the Indian innings was ruled out of the World Cup with injury, whilst Damien Martyn is no certainty to play. Fortunately Andy Bichel is in the best one day form of his career.
India after having a slow start to their World Cup seem to be doing everything right. Their batting order has looked stable since they moved Sehwag to open with the master blaster, Sachin Tendulkar. Also their bowling lineup has looked very impressive with Zaheer Khan and Ashish Nehra proving their worth.
The game will be televised live from 3.30pm WST on Channel Nine.
If you put money on an Australia-India final before the world cup it's paying $10.
red+black
21 Mar 2003, 22:12
took long enough for this thread to get started
red+black
21 Mar 2003, 22:14
Originally posted by GoEagles
The game will be televised live from 3.30pm WST on Channel Nine.
Of more relevance to the majority of people in the country, Channel Nine will start live coverage of the final at 6.30pm ESST.
Kenny_01
21 Mar 2003, 23:56
Can't wait!! Will be an absolute cracker of a game!!!!
red+black
22 Mar 2003, 00:08
Who's going to bowl Gillespie's slow ball and trap the maestro plum in front?
Ian Harvey - Man of the Match. :D ;)
goaldrush
22 Mar 2003, 06:49
I have been looking forward to this match for ages.
I am tipping the aussies to win because they have been so dominant in this world cup.
India will be a tough challenge for us.
raiderman00
22 Mar 2003, 12:02
I think this game will be tight and that a certain player will do the unthinkable and win the game for the Aussies. Ian Harvey is going to something extraudery i got a feeling.
My thoughts on the game against India and the whole world cup.
MY AUSTRALIAN TEAM FOR INDIA
HAYDEN- I think he needs some runs and is defently due for a big score. Has been batting out of form and imo needs runs desperatly in the final.
Gilchrist- Also batting below his standards, he has looked pretty average and will need to keep the ball down while playing his shots. Has been caught several times from just being lazy and not puting the ball in the right spot.
Pointing- Looking like a true captain now and looks like he has everything under control. His batting form has been good but not great. I think he will make a 100 on sunday unless he goes out by a soft shot like that one on Tuesday.
Leahman- A weak link in the team at the moment. Looking casual and very relaxed, has contributed to our batting collapses. looks like he is on the fringe. If Martyn comes up with the broken finger, Leahman might just be the surprise omission instead of Harvey. I hate S.A sorry.
Symonds- WOW that is what you can say, how can a guy have no form and then just make runs like that. Beats me how good this guy has become and really has put himself in as a top line batsman.
Bevan-UMMM looks in good form but i think he is on the slide as far as his batting goes. Can save a game and that is why he is there. Has had good sucsess and has made a couple of good scores.
Harvey- Bowling has been great, batting well that has been poor. Looks like he can maybe make a run but then seems to find a way to get out. Might surprise India with his bowling as i am tipping he will have a game of a lifetime on sunday. figures of 5/20 or something.
Bichale- Another great backup player, now maybe a full time player with his batting being that damn good. Another great find for Aussie cricket.
Hogg- Bowling is good, batting is overated and lets just say it ****. I can't help laugh when people call this guy an allrounder because he made 1 score. well now we know he can't bat. Bowling is great though and is a great bowler.
Lee- BOOM is this guy quick, i think he is in great form. is proberly Australia's hope of world cup glory as he is a great bowler. I worry about consistency though. takes 5/42 then 1/56 but still a great bowler.
McGrath- Still the awe of all pace bowlers and is in good touch, i think he has had an average world cup besides the 7/15 he took.
lamby29
22 Mar 2003, 12:24
raiderman00
You said that Hogg can't bat and has made one decent score. But your favourite player Harvey (I assume) hasn't made a 50 in his ODI career and has played 25 more games than Hogg.
Kane McGoodwin
22 Mar 2003, 13:50
Originally posted by raiderman00
Leahman- A weak link in the team at the moment. Looking casual and very relaxed, has contributed to our batting collapses. looks like he is on the fringe. If Martyn comes up with the broken finger, Leahman might just be the surprise omission instead of Harvey. I hate S.A sorry. Not sure who this Leahman bloke is but Darren Lehmann's batting form whilst not brilliant has been on a par with the other Australian batsman with the exception of Symonds. Also, throw in the fact that his bowling has been very tidy has made him our best performed all-rounder (as Symonds' bowling has been woeful along with Hogg's & Harvey's batting). lol - Omit Lehmann for Harvey. Got to be one of the most stupid statements I have read. Do you watch the game at all? :rolleyes:
lamby29
22 Mar 2003, 14:05
Kane, I am a Boof fan too, but he needs to go on with his starts more often than he currently does.
Kane McGoodwin
22 Mar 2003, 14:59
Originally posted by lamby29
Kane, I am a Boof fan too, but he needs to go on with his starts more often than he currently does. Very true, but to drop him for Harvey (if Martyn were fit) is crazy stuff!
NICK THE PIE MAN
22 Mar 2003, 15:54
Am I the only one who think we almost deserve to go into the final as the underdog?
Although we are undeafeted, India have been alot more impressive in my opinion. And if the little master gets going, we are in for a tough one. We MUST get him out cheaply. First ball yorked by Lee would be ideal. ;)
The toss will be critical. If we bat first, I think we will win. If India bat first, they will win.
In my opinion, India by 34 runs.
Just a bad feeling :(
My team for the final:
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist
R.Ponting
D.Lehmann
M.Bevan
A.Symonds
B.Hogg
I.Harvey
A.Bichel
B.Lee
G.McGrath
Kane McGoodwin
22 Mar 2003, 16:18
Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
My team for the final:
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist
R.Ponting
D.Lehmann
M.Bevan
A.Symonds
B.Hogg
I.Harvey
A.Bichel
B.Lee
G.McGrath Reckon you have the likely line-up if Martyn misses out but I would prefer:
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist
R.Ponting
D Martyn
D.Lehmann
A.Symonds
M.Bevan
A. Bichel
B.Hogg
B.Lee
G.McGrath
If Martyn is not available move Boof, Symonds & Bevan up the order & bring in Mahar.
red+black
22 Mar 2003, 17:52
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Reckon you have the likely line-up if Martyn misses out but I would prefer:
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist
R.Ponting
D Martyn
D.Lehmann
A.Symonds
M.Bevan
A. Bichel
B.Hogg
B.Lee
G.McGrath
If Martyn is not available move Boof, Symonds & Bevan up the order & bring in Mahar.
This Mahar bloke must be Malaysian or something. Anyway, just wanted to comment re Hogg. I really think he needs to bat #10, why he bats #8 is beyond me.
Drop him. Down the order.
Kenny_01
22 Mar 2003, 18:15
Originally posted by red+black
This Mahar bloke must be Malaysian or something. Anyway, just wanted to comment re Hogg. I really think he needs to bat #10, why he bats #8 is beyond me.
Drop him. Down the order.
He isn't a bad batsman, just in some terrible form.
Bombers14
23 Mar 2003, 11:00
This match is going to be Great.
Im going to stay up and watch the whole thing then hopefully see the aussies beat those bloody Indians. I hope that the aussies bowl 1st and get the Indian top order out quickly. They will then struggle because they dont have a good bottom order. Then the aussies will then chase and get that score.
GO AUSSIES!!
St-KriS
23 Mar 2003, 11:03
This match should be a piece of cake. All Australia has to do is dismiss Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Kaif, Mongia & Sehwag...err, on 2nd thoughts, that doesnt sound that easy. :D
Ive been saying it for days now, but for us to win this, HAYDEN NEEDS TO FIRE!!! And I do believe he will.
Matthew Hayden = Man Of The Man with 193 n.o.
Originally posted by St-KriS
This match should be a piece of cake. All Australia has to do is dismiss Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Kaif, Mongia & Sehwag...err, on 2nd thoughts, that doesnt sound that easy. :D
I'm sure Pidgeon, Binga and Andre Bichelle are trembling in their boots at the thought of Sourav Gangulgy, Rahul Dravid, Mohammed Kaif and Dinesh Mongia... :p ;) In all seriousness... a highly over-rated middle order.
Their openers on the other hand. Freaks.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 12:24
Originally posted by St-KriS
This match should be a piece of cake. All Australia has to do is dismiss Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Kaif, Mongia & Sehwag...err, on 2nd thoughts, that doesnt sound that easy. :D
Ive been saying it for days now, but for us to win this, HAYDEN NEEDS TO FIRE!!! And I do believe he will.
Matthew Hayden = Man Of The Man with 193 n.o.
Don't forget Yuvraj Singh either. I think he is in their top 3 batsmen.
Also take into account their 4-man tail. As if this team made the World Cup Final.
kretchy
23 Mar 2003, 12:47
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Don't forget Yuvraj Singh either. I think he is in their top 3 batsmen.
He's a good call but does he make the top three when they have Tendulkar obviously no. 1.
Is Singh better than two of Sehwag, Dravid and Ganguly.
Fansquad
23 Mar 2003, 12:52
Part of me hopes its a good competetive match for the sake of cricket....but the other part wants me to wipe the floor with them.....Gangualy ****s me no end.
manmountain
23 Mar 2003, 14:28
I'm not in the slightest bit worried about Ganguly. He is a front running fairy - three centuries, two of which were against Kenya. What has he ever done against a decent team? SFA. He will struggle to reach double figures.
Hopefully we can get Tendulkar cheaply - if we can do that then half the battle is won already. According to the head of the Indian Cricket Board, India has clearly superior batting, are better in the field, and their bowlers are performing better than ours at the moment. I look forward to his excuses when we cruise home by 60+ runs.
A genuine blockbuster final. Don't be surprised if both sides make over 300 as playing at altitude has produced the higher scores throughout this world cup.
There is no question that this final will be as tight as any previous final (perhaps something similar to the '75 cup where the Windies just held on against the Aussies in retrospect).
The Indian bowling is perhaps the most questionable factor in the match.
A tip: Australia to win by about 20 runs, whilst Sachin Tendulkar is man of the match.
Lenny29
23 Mar 2003, 14:34
Originally posted by manmountain
I'm not in the slightest bit worried about Ganguly. He is a front running fairy - three centuries, two of which were against Kenya.
And just to further back up your point.. the third was against Namibia.
P0RT P0WER
23 Mar 2003, 15:23
Its been a while since we have played on a decent pitch, India may look more impressive of late but remember our games have been a bit more evened up due to the **** pitches we were scheduled to play on.
Gilly and Hayden will love these fast wickets and the runs should come easy. As for the master it's only the third time in the tournament he has come up against a quality attack, Im tipping Lee will bang them in bodyline and get the LBW or bat pad.
C'mon Aussies!!!
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 16:02
Originally posted by kretchy
He's a good call but does he make the top three when they have Tendulkar obviously no. 1.
Is Singh better than two of Sehwag, Dravid and Ganguly.
He is better than Sehwag and Ganguly. Ganguly can only face spin and Sehwag is over-rated.
EagleBlue
23 Mar 2003, 16:18
Just heard Martyn has been cleared fit to play. Harvey is 12th Man
P0RT P0WER
23 Mar 2003, 16:44
Ganguly won the toss and has elected to field.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 16:46
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
Ganguly won the toss and has elected to field.
That's a surprise given our unbelievable record defending totals.
We've gone 70 games without losing when defending more then 200.
Hopefully the pitch hasn't played a huge part in his decision.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 16:52
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Hopefully the pitch hasn't played a huge part in his decision.
Ah crap, according to Ganguly its a tad damp.
Hopefully Hayden can find some form and guide us through the early period.
We need haydos to really play the innings of his life.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 16:54
I am ****ing nervous!!!
Originally posted by Kenny_01
I am ****ing nervous!!!
hehe me too..i do not want these indians winning the World Cup..it's ours.
PS..heh I have never heard the Indian national anthem. :o
I can't understand Ganguly sending Australia in. Radio commentators think that it might be because Duckworth Lewis favours the side chasing but surely not if Aust make 300+. It was a lot more overcast when the decision was made I guess, still a strange one.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 17:08
I was wondering how long it would take the Indian commentator to mention that 'this is an different Indian team'.
Wonder who he is trying to convince.
P0RT P0WER
23 Mar 2003, 17:09
15 off the first five balls.
Projected total 0/900.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 17:19
Good solid start so far.
If the openers can stay there til the 10th over, we should be targeting 300+
in your face ganguly..hope this is your biggest mistake.
15 off the first over is not the standard you expect from an opening bowler in a World Cup final.
0/50
Great start..275+ here we go..
It's a bloody cakewalk!!! Knew their bowling would be their weakness..now I am absolutely sure of it
Gilly is having a field day..2 4 this over.
Another thing...the umpires have to do something about the way that teams from the sub continent appeal..
Make that a 6...
In your face Ganguly..IN YOUR FACE!!
0/66 off 8 overs...at current rate 400+ after 50!!!
run rate is currently 8 runs an over.
0/69
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 17:45
I wouldn't be getting too carried away yet. If Gilly can smash 40 runs so quickly, imagine what Sachin could do.
I bet Matthew Hayden is thankful that Gilly is playing well because he is really struggling.
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
I wouldn't be getting too carried away yet. If Gilly can smash 40 runs so quickly, imagine what Sachin could do.
yeah but India dont have McGrath, Lee and Bichel..
;)
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 17:48
Here comes the Turbinator!!
Here we go...Indias secret weapon. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Frosties_Flank
Here we go...Indias secret weapon. :rolleyes:
Swept for 4!
Next!
The worrying thing is the pitch looks like a belter of a batting track
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 18:05
Originally posted by Frosties_Flank
Here we go...Indias secret weapon. :rolleyes:
Well, he did almost single handedly knock us over in the Test Series.
Still a big danger.
FreoDocker
23 Mar 2003, 18:05
I reckon there seems to be a bit in the pitch, it's just that the Indians haven't been bowling that well yet and they haven't had much luck when the ball has beaten the edge. That being said the outfield looks pretty fast so the batsmen will get good value for their shots.
Macca19
23 Mar 2003, 18:08
Ganguly you cheating mongrel.
Ganguly you ****en cheater...absolute cheater.
If it did come off the bat and Gilly walked it would have exposed him as the biggest cheater of all time...especially after what gilly did in the semi.
wouldnt trust an Indian with anything..really I wouldnt.
Originally posted by Macca19
Ganguly you cheating mongrel.
Couldnt agree more.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 18:13
Originally posted by Macca19
Ganguly you cheating mongrel.
What did i miss?
Was too busy watching The Simpsons :p
Ball came off Gillys thigh pad and didnt carry to him at first slip..Ganguly got up threw the ball in the air and started to celebrate.
the reply showed it was a half volley..and the crowd booed him when it was shown on the reply.
Gilly then said to gangooooly "It's different on the reply" and gave him a big schmile.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 18:19
I can't believe Ganguly!!! What was that. Pity Gilly didn't hit a few 6's after it happened like he was trying to do.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 18:24
Originally posted by Kenny_01
I can't believe Ganguly!!! What was that. Pity Gilly didn't hit a few 6's after it happened like he was trying to do.
He has a history.
He's the most disliked cricketer in the world, everyone hates him.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 18:35
Hayden out :(
mattyc2422
23 Mar 2003, 18:41
C'mon Marto.
Total faith in the bloke.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 18:53
The Little Master might get some genuine turn on this deck. Could be a threat if we take him lightly.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 19:00
Marto is looking pretty good.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 19:07
For all that Martyn gets for his scoring rate, he already has 28 runs off 24 balls.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:08
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Marto is looking pretty good.
Indeed. Although the bowling has been average, to say the least.
Props to Martyn though, i didn't think he was in good enough form to maintain a run a ball partnership.
lamby29
23 Mar 2003, 19:09
Martyn is certainly batting well
Freo Hitman
23 Mar 2003, 19:11
at 2/184 after 30 overs , Australia should be eyeing something like 340
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:17
Originally posted by Kenny_01
For all that Martyn gets for his scoring rate, he already has 28 runs off 24 balls.
Fair enough, but when the team is scoring at 6+ an over, that's about normal.
Martyn could make 150 off 95 balls today, it wouldn't change the fact that at times, he is pedestrian in his scoring rate.
Kenny_01
23 Mar 2003, 19:24
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Fair enough, but when the team is scoring at 6+ an over, that's about normal.
Yet Ponting and Hayden aren't/didn't score at a run a ball? Martyn has looked the best of the batsman, except maybe for Gilly.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:26
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Yet Ponting and Hayden aren't/didn't score at a run a ball? Martyn has looked the best of the batsman, except maybe for Gilly.
Sure, Martyn's looked great, but let's not get carried away.
What does tonight prove? For me, it shows me that Martyn is all class, and is, on occassion, capable of scoring quickly.
I sincerely hope he makes a big one, but at the end of the day, one innings doesn't suddenly make him a fast scorer.
Macca19
23 Mar 2003, 19:28
Martyn gets his 50
lamby29
23 Mar 2003, 19:33
LOL, Richie just said "It's 222 for 2"
Couple of quiet overs. Time to put the foot down. Ganguly setting a fine eample in the field as usual.
Punter unleashes.
Game over.
2/250 odd. This could get very ugly
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:45
How slow is this pitch?
On some of those nudies from Mongia, Martyn could have scratched his nuts, picked his nose and still had time to play a front foot stroke.
Hope we get some early wickets because Hogg might get spanked on such a slow deck.
Maybe he just doesn't bowl some of the short crap that they've been bowling
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:48
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Yet Ponting and Hayden aren't/didn't score at a run a ball?
You were saying? :D
spring6
23 Mar 2003, 19:53
Lets face it no matter what Marto does some people are always gonna critisise him cause they cant bear to lose face. He is a champion. Go Damo!
Originally posted by spring6
Lets face it no matter what Marto does some people are always gonna critisise him cause they cant bear to lose face. He is a champion.
Agreed, except Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Lee, McGrath are champions more often... ;) :p
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 19:57
Originally posted by spring6
Lets face it no matter what Marto does some people are always gonna critisise him cause they cant bear to lose face. He is a champion. Go Damo!
You wouldn't be a Western Australian by any chance?
Who has 'critisised (sic)' him here? I've stated that he's all class, but at times, bats slowly. Cutting criticism if ever i've seen it.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 20:00
Originally posted by Guey_34
Agreed, except Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Lee, McGrath are champions more often... ;) :p
You are on fire tonight mate. First the Kwame line, now this.
Macca19
23 Mar 2003, 20:03
Ponting is playing the best captains innings ive seen at the moment.
Martyn is playing a fantastic support role as well...if you could call it a support role.
awesome cricket by the aussies. possibly the best batting ive seen considering the event and the opposition.
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
You are on fire tonight mate. First the Kwame line, now this.
It's been 600-odd posts coming, bro...
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 20:06
Originally posted by Macca19
Ponting is playing the best captains innings ive seen at the moment.
Martyn is playing a fantastic support role as well...if you could call it a support role.
awesome cricket by the aussies. possibly the best batting ive seen considering the event and the opposition.
Rather special isn't it.
Sometimes we take the greatness of our cricket team for granted, but innings like this one, should make us all realise just how lucky we are to see such brilliant players.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 20:07
Originally posted by Guey_34
It's been 600-odd posts coming, bro...
:D
Now Guey, how could a man of your intelligence and knowledge manage to draft the single worst roster in the history of basketball? ;)
I would have given up after a month.......
some of these singles are dead set thievery. Great batting, great running, ****e fielding
Fantastic hundred. Secong fifty in how many balls??
mattyc2422
23 Mar 2003, 20:12
Great ton from Punter. I predicted he would spear head the innings and whadda ya know?
Top knock from Marto - looking forward him hopefully getting a ton.
spring6
23 Mar 2003, 20:12
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
You wouldn't be a Western Australian by any chance?
Who has 'critisised (sic)' him here? I've stated that he's all class, but at times, bats slowly. Cutting criticism if ever i've seen it.
You wouldnt not be a west australian by any chance?
And don't be paronoid I was not specifically referring to you; this unfair critisism of Martyn has been ongoing.
Well done ricky. Good innings.
Go ricky, Go ricky, Go ricky.:D
FreoDocker
23 Mar 2003, 20:17
Punter is on fire, he'd make any other batsman in the world look pis$weak at the moment.
Originally posted by FreoDocker
Punter is on fire, he'd make any other batsman in the world look pis$weak at the moment.
He sure wood.:D
Macca19
23 Mar 2003, 20:23
6 after 6 after 6.
Easily, the best one day innings ive ever seen. No doubt about it.
I dont think anyone would have guessed we'd score 340+ today.
1 over to go. Ponting only two 4's, but 7 sixes. Awesome.
Fall Out Boy
23 Mar 2003, 20:27
2-359. Amazing stuff.
We won't ever see a better batting display.
Eight 6's for Punter :eek:
GhostofJimJess
23 Mar 2003, 20:28
Do you think ... maybe ... if given the opportunity ... to have it over again .... that Ganguly may have chosen to BAT !!
Bloody hell!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Punters just fired himself into the very highest reaches of aussie cricket with that innings. What an abo****e GEM!
lamby29
23 Mar 2003, 20:28
Unbelievable