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Mobbenfuhrer
30 Mar 2003, 11:09
Ok now THIS time they've gone too far :

From the Wimmera Mail-Times - http://wimmera.yourguide.com.au/home.asp
Article - http://wimmera.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=sport&subclass=local&category=general%20sport&story_id=218151&y=2003&m=3

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Diggers change name with big sponsorship
Dean Lawson
Friday, 28 March 2003

WIMMERA Football League club Horsham United has changed its name after winning a major sponsorship deal with fast-food chain KFC.

The club is now known as the KFC Horsham Diggers as part of a deal it signed with David Bird, owner of KFC outlets in Horsham and Ararat.

The club will now only be known as Horsham United on corporate documents.

Delighted Horsham United officials were unwilling to disclose details of the three-year sponsorship but the Mail-Times believes the deal involves a five-figure cash donation.

Club vice-president Peter Miller said the deal was easily the biggest single sponsorship arrangement in the club's history.

``It's fantastic for us - to coin a phrase: it's finger lickin' good,'' Mr Miller said.

``It provides the club with more opportunities to build on what the club has already achieved in the past 12 months. It really sets us up financially.

``The club has turned around financially in one year and this sort of news ensures our longevity in the league. It has certainly put a smile on our treasurer's face.

``Who knows, we might be the KFC Horsham Diggers for the next 20 years if we do the right thing by KFC.''

The name change continues an evolution of the Horsham-based club which joined Wimmera League from Horsham District League as Imperials-Wonwondah in 1983.

The club became Horsham United and despite having Tiger and Magpie motifs on a coat of arms from its association with former Imperials and Wonwondah clubs, adopted the Diggers as its nickname. The club rekindled the name from the club's early association with football playing servicemen who had returned home after the Second World War.

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Is anyone else as disgusted as I about this?

screech
30 Mar 2003, 19:46
Not really, sponsorship is becoming harder to get every year, and if a team can get a large sponsorship just by adding 3 letters to the start of their name then good on them. Good to see a club at a lower being innovative, hopefully some of that money goes into junior development and buying equipment etc and not just buying a premiership or something similar.

Mobbenfuhrer
30 Mar 2003, 20:23
I can't believe you said that!

I hope every one of their players has living crap beaten out of them by every other team every match.

I'm sure I'd get a couple of bucks selling my body to Domain Gardens predators, too, but hell I will.

They have no respect for their own club, and hopefully turnabout will be fair play.

Vindaloo Mat
31 Mar 2003, 13:59
easy taking the high ground if the club is dead though Mobs ?

so if it were KFC Diggers or bust you would choose bust ?

:confused:

Phil Doyle
31 Mar 2003, 15:28
I'd choose bust.

I had to make a similar call regarding the Mountain Lions and McDonalds. I told McDonalds to stick their low paying wages and crap food where the sun don't shine. As a result it's a bit harder, but at least we aren't a bunch of a*** licking hypocrites.

Mobbenfuhrer
31 Mar 2003, 20:33
Originally posted by Vindaloo Mat
easy taking the high ground if the club is dead though Mobs ?

so if it were KFC Diggers or bust you would choose bust ?

:confused:

(Sorry about my passion on this subject, I feel very strongly about it)

I'd choose recess.

Hmm, lemme see, I'm dying of starvation, and a bloke comes up and says "hand me your family for sexual perversions, and I'll keep you fed as long as they last". Rather starve.

Though in this case, the club wasn't bust.

you_idiot
31 Mar 2003, 20:39
I don't think anyone can ever accuse the Diggers for not being chicken, ever again.

:D:D

Wayde Petersen
31 Mar 2003, 23:22
Well as much as hate to say this, if a business came up to Murchison and said that for $10,000 we'll sponsor you as long as you change you're name to the McDonalds Grasshoppers, I would at least give it some thought before making my decision, as someone who's at the coalface in local football, Murch always struggles against the Lancaster's, Ardmona's and Stanhope's, simply because of population demographics (Murch is virually an old folks home), and financial support from the community, and if a sponsorship like this is the only way that we could get out of the rut were in, then I would have to take it.

Shepparton United's now has two small sponsorship sponsors on thier jumper (the Hotel Australia, and EBanktrade), plus all the other VCFL crap, and now they've got Ella Bashe to put on a big logo on the front and back of thier jumpers as a major sponsor, plus SPC putting a logo on thier shorts, and Shepparton's just as bad.

I would object if Murchison (or Tatura for that matter) ever went to that extreme, but as far as a naming rights sponsor goes, well I would have to think long and hard.

fabulousphil
1 Apr 2003, 14:15
Take the money i reckon, i dont see the problem, KFC does not force you to eat the chicken, just as a pub sponsor doesnt make you drink.

Mobbs, i cant see a parellel between giving your family away for sexual pervesions....... as you call it........... and getting money from KFC.

DoggyBase
1 Apr 2003, 14:30
As coincidence would have it, my beloved Bulldogs are currently involved in a KFC promotion. I don't have a problem with it. Visit Bulldog Central (http://www.users.on.net/centrals) for full details. :D

Richoagain
1 Apr 2003, 15:24
I have to say if it's a choice between footy and no footy, I'll take footy even if means being avertising slurries.

It's better than no footy.

Mobbenfuhrer
1 Apr 2003, 20:55
Originally posted by fabulousphil
Take the money i reckon, i dont see the problem, KFC does not force you to eat the chicken, just as a pub sponsor doesnt make you drink.

I'm not fussed about sponsorship from KFC, that's fine by me. What pees me off is RENAMING the club around a sponsor's name. By all means add as many sponsors logos as you want, not pretty but fair enough. Preface the nickname with a sponsor, preface the football record with a sponsor, sheeze you can even name the playing ground after a sponsor, but the actual club name? That should be sacrosanct.

Might as well go the local cemetary and spit on the graves of those who've played for the club (or its derivatives) in the past.

Entirely disrespectful.

Originally posted by fabulousphil
Mobbs, i cant see a parellel between giving your family away for sexual pervesions....... as you call it........... and getting money from KFC.

It's prostitution, pure and simple. The club is now the quintessential scarlet lady of the league. Doesn't football MEAN anything genuine to anybody, anymore?

Mobbenfuhrer
1 Apr 2003, 20:57
Originally posted by DoggyBase
As coincidence would have it, my beloved Bulldogs are currently involved in a KFC promotion. I don't have a problem with it. Visit Bulldog Central (http://www.users.on.net/centrals) for full details. :D

I must apologise for not making myself clearer. Its not about the sponsorship for me, its about changing the club name to represent a sponsor!

As just stated above, I don't mind "Central District, proudly sponsored by KFC".

But could you continue to feel a connection if they were renamed to "KFC District FC"?

Mobbenfuhrer
1 Apr 2003, 21:00
Originally posted by Richoagain
I have to say if it's a choice between footy and no footy, I'll take footy even if means being avertising slurries.

It's better than no footy.

Not me ... I just no longer consider it footy!

you_idiot
1 Apr 2003, 21:05
Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer
I must apologise for not making myself clearer. Its not about the sponsorship for me, its about changing the club name to represent a sponsor!

As just stated above, I don't mind "Central District, proudly sponsored by KFC".

But could you continue to feel a connection if they were renamed to "KFC District FC"?

It's not like we're without precedents here, at higher levels.

Such as with the Mazda (North Melbourne) Kangaroos, or even internationally, with the Qantas Socceroos.

I just mentally block it out. I understand that not everyone can, though...

fabulousphil
2 Apr 2003, 17:15
Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer
I'm not fussed about sponsorship from KFC, that's fine by me. What pees me off is RENAMING the club around a sponsor's name. By all means add as many sponsors logos as you want, not pretty but fair enough. Preface the nickname with a sponsor, preface the football record with a sponsor, sheeze you can even name the playing ground after a sponsor, but the actual club name? That should be sacrosanct.

Might as well go the local cemetary and spit on the graves of those who've played for the club (or its derivatives) in the past.

Entirely disrespectful.



It's prostitution, pure and simple. The club is now the quintessential scarlet lady of the league. Doesn't football MEAN anything genuine to anybody, anymore?

I respect your opinion, but i still dont have a problem with it (the sponsorship), i remember in the ACTAFL, in the 80s or early 90s, Queanbeyan, a power house in local league was called the Hunny Bunny Tigers, after receiving a sponsorship from a local chain of grocery stores called Hunny Bunny ( if i recall correctly), ridiculous name.... everyone will agree, but it kept them afloat, and they won some flags during those years.

In that time they built up their social club, and now they are not called the HB tigers but have reverted to the Queanbeyan Tigers and are travelling pretty smoothly ...or so i hear.