2003 BF Crows Awards Tally

[Kane McGoodwin]

After Round 1 v Fremantle at AAMI
A great start to the year by the Crows with just under a 10 goal win & with 2 of our star recruits making an immediate impact.

Best on Ground
5. Edwards
4. McLeod
3. Torney
2. Bode
1. Carey

Best Team Man
3. Carey
2. Stevens
1. Torney

Best Rookie
1. Reilly

[ScottWelshLuva]

Do you want us to vote for this now, or are they the final votes for round 1? :cool:

[sapaul]

Originally posted by ScottWelshLuva
Do you want us to vote for this now, or are they the final votes for round 1? :cool:

:D They are how the votes finished up..Kane will now most likely use this thread for the whole year and up date the votes round by round about Wednesdayish.:)

[Kane McGoodwin]

After the Crows worst performance effort-wise for a considerable time, McLeod takes the lead from Edwards with a BOG (for the Crows) performance. Along with Torney, they have put an early gap in the rest of the field.

Best on Ground
9 McLeod (+5)
8 Edwards (+3)
7 Torney (+4)
2 Bode
2 Goodwin (+2)
1 Carey
1 Johncôck (+1)
30 Total

Best Team Man
3 Bickley (+3)
3 Carey
2 Stevens
2 Biglands (+2)
2 Torney (+2)
1 Hart
13 Total

Best Rookie
1 Reilly
1 Abstained (+1)
2 Total

[Stiffy_18]

Danii the Moderator, Can you please make this thread sticky??????

Thanks;)

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Danii the Moderator, Can you please make this thread sticky??????

Thanks;) I was going to suggest the same thing Stiffy, but thought it may upset Jars. ;)

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I was going to suggest the same thing Stiffy, but thought it may upset Jars. ;)

I sent a PM to Danii hoping that he would make this thread sticky as it will be updated every week;)

Sorry Jars;)

[Jars458]

:mad: :mad: :mad:

I am very upset with you boys.


This is the stickiest sitaution since Stick the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun.

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jars458
:mad: :mad: :mad:

I am very upset with you boys.


This is the stickiest sitaution since Stick the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun.
:) :) :) :) :) :)

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Jars458
:mad: :mad: :mad:

I am very upset with you boys.

This is the stickiest sitaution since Stick the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun. Hey it wasn't me this time Jars. If I was moderator all my threads would be stickys lol. :D

[sapaul]

Current standings after the Round 3 victory over Sydney.

Best on Ground
12 Edwards(+4)
9 McLeod
7 Torney
5 Stevens(+5)
3 Bassett(+3)
3 Bode(+1)
2 Goodwin
2 Ricciuto(+2)
1 Carey
1 Johncôck
45 Total

Best Team Man
3 Bassett(+3)
3 Bickley
3 Carey
3 Stevens(+1)
2 Stenglein(+2)
2 Stevens
2 Biglands
2 Torney
1 Hart
19 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly(+1)
1 Abstained
3 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After a solid win against good opposition, Macca has taken the lead over Edwards. Stinger looks to fight it out again with Bicks for BTM.

Best on Ground
14 McLeod (+5)
12 Edwards
7 Torney
6 Bode (+3)
6 Ricciuto (+4)
5 Stevens
3 Bassett
2 Stenglein (+2)
2 Goodwin
1 Bickley (+1)
1 Carey
1 Johncôck
60 Total

Best Team Man
5 Bickley (+2)
5 Stenglein (+3)
3 Carey
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands (+1)
2 Torney
1 Hart
25 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Abstained (+1)
4 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Easy to see why Stiffy won the West End Medal in a losing side when we voted him best player & best team man.

Best on Ground
14 McLeod
12 Edwards
9 Bode (+3)
7 Torney
6 Ricciuto
6 Johncôck (+5)
5 Stevens
4 Burns (+4)
3 Bassett
3 Bickley (+2)
2 Stenglein
2 Hart (+2)
2 Goodwin
1 Carey
76 Total

Best Team Man
7 Stenglein (+2)
6 Bickley (+1)
3 Johncôck (+3)
3 Carey
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
2 Torney
1 Hart
31 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
3 Abstained (+1)
5 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Macca still has a useful early lead, but has both Roo & Stiffy closing in on him this week. Bicks having another vintage year overtakes Stinger for BTM honours, as these 2 look to fight it out like last year. Mattner gets on the board to take it up to Reilly for BR.

Best on Ground
17 McLeod (+3)
12 Edwards
11 Ricciuto (+5)
10 Bode (+1)
10 Johncôck (+4)
7 Torney
5 Stevens
5 Bickley (+2)
4 Burns
3 Bassett
2 Stenglein
2 Hart
2 Goodwin
1 Carey
91 Total

Best Team Man
9 Bickley (+3)
7 Stenglein
5 Carey (+2)
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
2 Torney
1 McGregor (+1)
1 Hart
37 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
1 Mattner (+1)
3 Abstained
6 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After a game I would prefer to forget about, Roo closes the gap on Macca for BOG, & Stinger on Bicks for BTM, but we won't have a rookie at this rate with the abstainers leading the way.

Best on Ground
17 McLeod
16 Ricciuto (+5)
12 Edwards
10 Bode
10 Johncôck
8 Torney (+1)
8 Burns (+4)
5 Stevens
5 Bickley
4 Stenglein (+2)
4 Carey (+3)
3 Bassett
2 Hart
2 Goodwin
106 Total

Best Team Man
9 Bickley
8 Stenglein (+1)
6 Carey (+1)
5 Torney (+3)
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
3 Ricciuto (+3)
1 McGregor
1 Hart
45 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
1 Mattner
4 Abstained (+1)
7 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After another fustrating loss, the Crows drop back to a 4-4 record for the year. Macca, Bicks & Mr Abstaination keep their slender leads of their respective awards.

Best on Ground
17 McLeod
16 Ricciuto
15 Edwards (+3)
10 Bode
10 Johncôck
8 Torney
8 Burns
7 Bickley (+2)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher (+5)
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Perrie (+4)
3 Bassett
2 Hart
2 Goodwin
1 Begley (+1)
121 Total

Best Team Man
10 Bickley (+1)
8 Stenglein
6 Carey
5 Torney
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
3 Ricciuto
3 Perrie (+3)
2 Begley (+2)
1 McGregor
1 Hart
51 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner (+1)
4 Abstained
8 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well we were outplayed by the Bullies for most of the game, but got 4 badly needed points after a 10 minutes - 6 goal burst in the last quarter. Macca has extended his BOG lead as has Bicks with BTM & Abstaination with BR

Best on Ground
22 McLeod (+5)
16 Ricciuto
15 Edwards
10 Bode
10 Johncôck
8 Torney
8 Burns
7 Bickley
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
4 Clarke (+4)
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Perrie
4 Goodwin (+2)
4 Begley (+3)
3 Bassett
2 Hart
1 Massie (+1)
136 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley (+1)
8 Stenglein
6 Carey
5 Torney
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
3 Ricciuto
3 Perrie
3 Clarke (+3)
2 Massie (+2)
2 Begley
1 McGregor
1 Hart
57 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
5 Abstained (+1)
9 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After a gutsy win by the Cats, Tyson closes the gap on Macca. Torney makes his move for BTM & proves that he has been a very useful acquisition to the club.

Best on Ground
22 McLeod
19 Edwards (+4)
16 Ricciuto
10 Bode
10 Johncôck
10 Torney (+2)
10 Bickley (+3)
9 Perrie (+5)
8 Burns
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
3 Bassett
2 Hart
1 Welsh (+1)
1 Massie
151 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley
8 Stenglein
7 Torney (+2)
6 Carey
6 Perrie (+3)
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
2 Massie
2 Begley
1 Welsh (+1)
1 McGregor
1 Hart
63 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
6 Abstained (+1)
10 Total

[dyertribe]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
After a gutsy win by the Cats, Tyson closes the gap on Macca. Torney makes his move for BTM & proves that he has been a very useful acquisition to the club.

You sound like Bruce in-between rounds at the Brownlow, I love it! :D

[Kane McGoodwin]

Another disappointing loss slipping our YTD record to 6-5 & in the eight on percentage. Not much movement by the leaders in each categories.

Best on Ground
22 McLeod
19 Edwards
16 Ricciuto
10 Bode
10 Johncôck
10 Torney
10 Bickley
9 Perrie
8 Burns
6 Massie (+5)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Bassett (+2)
5 Hart (+3)
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
4 McGregor (+4)
1 Welsh
1 Ladhams (+1)
166 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley
8 Stenglein
7 Torney
6 Carey
6 Perrie
5 Massie (+3)
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Biglands
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
3 McGregor (+2)
2 Begley
2 Hart (+1)
1 Welsh
69 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
7 Abstained (+1)
11 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After smashing the Dees (albeit with the assistance of the umpires), the Crows go into the mid-season break with a respectable 7-5 record (ie. given the injuries). Time to settle down the team after the break & push for the top-4 at the end of the minor round.

On the leaderboard, Roo makes his move on Macca for BOG, JT closes the gap on Bicks, & Hentschel makes his BR debut (just!)

Best on Ground
22 McLeod
21 Ricciuto (+5)
19 Edwards
13 Perrie (+4)
12 Johncôck (+2)
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Bickley
8 Burns
7 Massie (+1)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Bassett
5 Hart
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
4 McGregor
3 Burton (+3)
1 Welsh
1 Ladhams
181 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley
9 Torney (+2)
8 Stenglein
7 Perrie (+1)
6 Carey
6 Biglands (+3)
5 Massie
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
75 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel (+1)
7 Abstained
12 Total

[dyertribe]

Geez... Hentschel getting the BR vote?... I think a dangerous precedent has been set ;)

[DaveW]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Geez... Hentschel getting the BR vote?... I think a dangerous precedent has been set ;) In dodgy circumstances too. He didn't get more than 50% of the vote. Hrmmm...

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Geez... Hentschel getting the BR vote?... I think a dangerous precedent has been set ;) An executive decision was made that 50% of the vote is good enough. The rookies need all the help they can get this year! ;)

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by DaveW
In dodgy circumstances too. He didn't get more than 50% of the vote. Hrmmm... Abstainers didn't get more than 50% of the vote either!

[napsyd]

Let's just say if I were Reilly or Mattner I'd be very upset that Hentschel is now only one vote behind me for the prestigious Bigfooty Adelaide "Rookie of the Year" award. :D

[snakebite01]

It is good to see that at the half way mark of the season our young players like John****, Massie and Perrie all sit in the top 10 and are starting to take the next step.

Also good to see two of our recruits Burns (with limited amount of games) and Torney also featuring in the top 10.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Another solid win by the boys in slippery conditions where class shone through to take us back into the top-4 with a 8-5 record. Talking of class of the highest order, Macca has extended his lead for BOG honours, but a bunch closes on Bicks for a tightly contested BTM. As for the BR, unfortunately it's proving to be a non-event.

Best on Ground
25 McLeod (+3)
21 Ricciuto
19 Edwards
16 Johncôck (+4)
13 Perrie
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Bickley
8 Burns
8 Massie (+1)
8 Burton (+5)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Bassett
5 Hart
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
4 McGregor
2 Shirley (+2)
1 Welsh
1 Ladhams
196 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley
9 Torney
9 Stenglein (+1)
9 Carey (+3)
7 Perrie
7 Massie (+2)
6 Biglands
3 Johncôck
3 Bassett
3 Stevens
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
81 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
7 Abstained
1 n/a
13 Total

[topjars]

here comes Birdman

Ive got a feeling in me water that this man cometh to play in the second half of the season.:D

[5AASUX]

Have you Crows supporters forgotten about the SANFL? A vast majority of you go to the Crows games and not to any of the SANFL games. Those who haven't been to an SANFL game for a few years should make the effort to go and have a look. Good value and the quality of football is great. I am also interested in why those of you who haven't gone to the SANFL games for a long while, because that is pretty bloody disappointing.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by 5AASUX
Have you Crows supporters forgotten about the SANFL? A vast majority of you go to the Crows games and not to any of the SANFL games. Those who haven't been to an SANFL game for a few years should make the effort to go and have a look. Good value and the quality of football is great. I am also interested in why those of you who haven't gone to the SANFL games for a long while, because that is pretty bloody disappointing. 5AASUX - why have you hijacked this thread to ask such a question? This really belongs in a new thread.

Anyway, many of the Crows supporters on this board are SANFL fanatics and regularly attend matches. You need look no further than some of the handles used here.

I haven't seen an SANFL match in years myself being an interstater. I do keep up with the results. And I plan to be at Noarlunga this Saturday in a rare trip to Adelaide.

Go the Panthers.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by 5AASUX
Have you Crows supporters forgotten about the SANFL? A vast majority of you go to the Crows games and not to any of the SANFL games. Those who haven't been to an SANFL game for a few years should make the effort to go and have a look. Good value and the quality of football is great. I am also interested in why those of you who haven't gone to the SANFL games for a long while, because that is pretty bloody disappointing.
This is a Crows Board. You need to go & visit the Regional Board which covers the SANFL & other non-AFL leagues.

[Kane McGoodwin]

It wasn't a pretty win, but we got an invaluable 4 points & % to consolidate a top-4 place with a 9-5 record.

The leaderboard is becoming crowded with Roo joining Macca for the BOG lead & Carey narrowing the gap on Bicks for BTM.

Best on Ground
25 McLeod
25 Ricciuto (+4)
19 Edwards
16 Johncôck
13 Perrie
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Bickley
10 Massie (+2)
10 Bassett (+5)
8 Burns
8 Burton
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Hart
5 McGregor (+1)
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
4 Ladhams (+3)
2 Shirley
1 Welsh
211 Total

Best Team Man
11 Bickley
10 Carey (+1)
9 Torney
9 Stenglein
7 Perrie
7 Massie
6 Biglands
5 Bassett (+2)
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
3 Shirley (+3)
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
87 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
7 Abstained
2 n/a (+1)
14 Total

[Stiffy_18]

It was a very good win against Essendon in wet conditions to consolidate a top 4 spot. Roo and Welshy had a big night out. As a result Roo takes the lead in BOG Caregory and Carey regains the lead in BTM Award, closely followed by Bickley and Stenglein.

PS. Kane, I wasn't sure what the rules are but Carey and Stenglein got the same number of votes for BTM. I have given them 2 each. Please make changes if I stuffed up :)

Best on Ground

30 Ricciuto (+5)
25 McLeod
19 Edwards
16 Johncock
13 Perrie
12 Bickley (+2)
11 Burton (+3)
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Massie
10 Bassett
8 Burns
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Hart
5 McGregor
5 Welsh (+4)
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
4 Ladhams
2 Shirley
1 Smart (+1)

226 Total

Best Team Man
12 Carey (+2)
11 Bickley
11 Stenglein (+2)
9 Torney
7 Perrie
7 Massie
6 Biglands
5 Bassett
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Ricciuto
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
3 Shirley
3 Smart (+3)
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
94 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
7 Abstained
3 n/a (+1)
15 Total

[sapaul]

Is Kane away again?

..and yeah, pretty sure you have you've done the BTM votes correctly from what Kane has done in the past.

[dyertribe]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
PS. Kane, I wasn't sure what the rules are but Carey and Stenglein got the same number of votes for BTM. I have given them 2 each. Please make changes if I stuffed up :)

Yeah I was wondering about that myself.

If it helps, on a countback Stenglein would take the 2 votes over Carey's 1 as Stinger has more second preferences than the King.

Let's see what Kaneo Mac says. ;)

Stenglein:..3; 3; 3; 2; 2; 2; 2; 1; 1;................... = 19
Carey:......3; 3; 3; 2; 2; 1; 1; 1; 1; 1; 1; ............ = 19

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
PS. Kane, I wasn't sure what the rules are but Carey and Stenglein got the same number of votes for BTM. I have given them 2 each. Please make changes if I stuffed up :)
Top effort Stiffy - your OK with votes. Don't believe in half-measures, so awarding the Duck & Stinger both 2 votes is correct. :)

PS. DT, I reckon you should be the official auditor of the votes! ;)

[dyertribe]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
PS. DT, I reckon you should be the official auditor of the votes! ;)

Heheh... Maybe next season if no-one else is doing it - it's a pain in the arse enough to run the (dying) betting comp I'm in control of on another forum :o ;)

[Kane McGoodwin]

This was a fustrating game for me, so the less said the better. Again we were our own worse enemy blowing another close game to leave us with a 10-6 record.

Roo & Macca clear out from the pack for BOG, whilst Bicks reclaims the BTM lead by the barest of margins. Good to see a rookie get a vote with Rutten opening his account.

Best on Ground
35 Ricciuto (+5)
29 McLeod (+4)
19 Edwards
16 Johncôck
14 Burton (+3)
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns (+1)
6 Ladhams (+2)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Hart
5 McGregor
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
2 Shirley
1 Smart
241 Total

Best Team Man
13 Bickley (+2)
12 Carey
11 Stenglein
9 Torney
8 Perrie (+1)
7 Massie
6 Biglands
6 Ricciuto (+3)
5 Bassett
3 Smart
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
3 Shirley
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
100 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten (+1)
7 Abstained
3 n/a
16 Total

[topjars]

Dare I say it but "Has this been Benny Harts worst season?"
The votes would suggest this.

[Kane McGoodwin]

After an easy win against the Saints, the Crows jump back into the top-4 with an 11-6 record. Can we stay there come the end of the minor round with a tough run ahead...

Roo stretches his BTM lead to a decent margin, whilst JT joins the crowd gunning for Bicks BTM lead. Even though we had 2 rookies, unfortunately they failed to gain a point & probably won't get a another chance this week.

Best on Ground
39 Ricciuto (+4)
29 McLeod
19 Edwards
19 Johncôck (+3)
19 Burton (+5)
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
10 Bode
10 Torney
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
8 Ladhams (+2)
6 Hart (+1)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 McGregor
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Carey
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
2 Shirley
1 Smart
256 Total

Best Team Man
13 Bickley
12 Carey
12 Torney (+3)
11 Stenglein
9 Perrie (+1)
7 Massie
6 Biglands
6 Ricciuto
5 Bassett
5 Shirley (+2)
3 Smart
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
106 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
8 Abstained (+1)
3 n/a
17 Total

[ant]

Originally posted by topjars
Dare I say it but "Has this been Benny Harts worst season?"
The votes would suggest this.

And the way it's voted on, he'll probably make All-Australian ;)

[Kane McGoodwin]

Another nail-biting finish, but at last we came out of a close one at last with 4 points & move into 2nd position with a 12-6 record. Both zoom-zoom & Birdman make their move on Roo for BOG, but is it too late? The Duck overtakes Bicks & JT keeps up the pressure for BTM honours, which looks like it will go down to the wire. The Rookie award sadly isn't even worth commenting on. :(

Best on Ground
39 Ricciuto
29 McLeod
23 Edwards (+4)
21 Burton (+2)
19 Johncôck
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Torney (+1)
11 Ladhams (+3)
10 Bode
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
9 Carey (+5)
6 Hart
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 McGregor
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
2 Shirley
1 Smart
271 Total

Best Team Man
14 Carey (+2)
13 Bickley
13 Torney (+1)
11 Stenglein
9 Perrie
8 Shirley (+3)
7 Massie
6 Biglands
6 Ricciuto
5 Bassett
3 Smart
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
112 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
8 Abstained
4 n/a (+1)
18 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well after going so close against Freo, we become the 1st visiting team to beat a WA team at the fortress. This was a crucial "8 point" game that has virtually guaranteed a top-4 spot & gives us a 13-6 record.

Roo is now looking a monty for BOG honours by extending his lead even further. However, very tight for BTM, with the Duck narrowly increasing his lead & Laverne make a late season charge. Good to see Skippy open his rookie account.

Best on Ground
42 Ricciuto (+3)
29 McLeod
23 Edwards
23 Johncôck (+4)
21 Burton
14 Carey (+5)
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Torney
11 Ladhams
10 Bode
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
6 Hart
6 McGregor (+1)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
3 Smart (+2)
2 Shirley
286 Total

Best Team Man
15 Carey (+1)
13 Bickley
13 Torney
13 Stenglein (+2)
11 Shirley (+3)
9 Perrie
7 Massie
6 Biglands
6 Ricciuto
5 Bassett
3 Smart
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
118 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Skipworth (+1)
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
8 Abstained
4 n/a
19 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

After our worst performance for the year & a real flat effort, we are lucky to still be in 2nd spot with a 13-7 record.

Macca & Edwards narrowly close the gap, but Roo still looks strong for BTM. However, a great battle for BTM with JT joining the Duck. Good to see Schuback open his rookie account.

Best on Ground
42 Ricciuto
31 McLeod (+2)
26 Edwards (+3)
23 Johncôck
22 Burton (+1)
15 Torney (+4)
14 Carey
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Ladhams
10 Bode
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
8 Smart (+5)
6 Hart
6 McGregor
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
2 Shirley
301 Total

Best Team Man
15 Carey
15 Torney (+2)
13 Bickley
13 Stenglein
11 Shirley
9 Perrie
7 Massie
7 Biglands (+1)
6 Ricciuto
6 Smart (+3)
5 Bassett
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
3 McGregor
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
124 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Schuback (+1)
1 Skipworth
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
8 Abstained
4 n/a
20 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

The less said about our worst loss for the year, the better as we have given up the valuable 2nd spot & slipped to 4th with a 13-8 record.

Roo is now unbackable to take BOG honours after one of the few to put in a decent effort. However, very tight for BTM & Shirley continues to make his move on the Duck & JT.

Best on Ground
47 Ricciuto (+5)
31 McLeod
26 Edwards
25 Burton (+3)
23 Johncôck
16 Carey (+2)
15 Torney
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Ladhams
10 Bode
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
8 Smart
7 McGregor (+1)
6 Hart
6 Shirley (+4)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
316 Total

Best Team Man
15 Carey
15 Torney
13 Bickley
13 Stenglein
13 Shirley (+2)
9 Perrie
9 Ricciuto (+3)
7 Massie
7 Biglands
6 Smart
5 Bassett
4 McGregor (+1)
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
130 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Schuback
1 Skipworth
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
8 Abstained
5 n/a (+1)
21 Total

[napsyd]

Why is it that McLeod hasn't got one vote in best team man? Are we suggesting he is a selfish player?

His delivery inside 50 is second to none.

His tackling is excellent.

His ability to extract the ball from a pack and dish off to a team mate well known.

Are we harder on Macca than the rest of the footy world?

[Jars458]

Originally posted by napsyd
Why is it that McLeod hasn't got one vote in best team man? Are we suggesting he is a selfish player?

His delivery inside 50 is second to none.

His tackling is excellent.

His ability to extract the ball from a pack and dish off to a team mate well known.

Are we harder on Macca than the rest of the footy world?

No, he rarely does the in and under things and he also often plays below his ability.

team man is like an ecouragement award in a lot of ways adn rewards a different type of player to McLeod.

[topjars]

Originally posted by napsyd
Why is it that McLeod hasn't got one vote in best team man? Are we suggesting he is a selfish player?

His delivery inside 50 is second to none.

His tackling is excellent.

His ability to extract the ball from a pack and dish off to a team mate well known.

Are we harder on Macca than the rest of the footy world?

No we are not... Jars is right.
Same goes for Burton; although I would've thought Burtons contribution to the team wouldve rated a mention even b4 McLeod

[Kane McGoodwin]

Jars & TJ, you guys are a bit harsh on Macca. According to Ayres he played a great team game last week across the HB line or was that HF line. I'm just still trying to work out what role he was playing... :o

[marvin]

Tyson Edwards has also failed to trouble the BTM scorers this year. If anything, his football is most McLeod-esque, meeting all the criteria that napsyd listed, but tending like McLeod to do his best work outside packs.

Personally, I give BTM votes based on a number of different criteria - effort; a brilliant defensive game (e.g. Smart on Lloyd); one percenters; standing up to be counted at a crucial time - that probably tend to reward those who've sacrificed their own game for the benefit of the team - defenders, ruckmen or big forwards who create space for the runners. Macca probably plays his best when others are sacrificing on his behalf and he's ripping a team to shreds.

For the record, the votes accumulated over the last 2 seasons for BTM:

(2003,2002)
40 Stenglein (13,27)
39 Bickley (13,26)
22 Smart (6,16)
18 Stevens (3,15)
17 Hart (2,15)
16 Ricciuto (9,7)
15 Carey (15,0)
15 Torney (15,0)
14 Biglands (7,7)
13 Shirley (13,0)
13 Bassett (5,8)
12 Massie (7,5)
9 Perrie (9,0)
8 Edwards (0,8)
7 McGregor (4,3)
7 Welsh (1,6)
6 Clarke (3,3)
5 Johncôck (3,2)
5 Goodwin (0,5)
4 Crowell (0,4)
3 Johnson (0,3)
2 Begley (2,0)

Top 10: tagger, defensive midfielder, defender, big forward, defender, inside midfielder, big forward, defender/tagger, ruckman, tagger.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Another gut-wrenching loss to the Power & more crap to put up with at work this week from those with the bragging rights. Crows have been teasing us with many of their performances, but the end of the day a 13-9 record is not good enough for the double chance.

Roo has stitched up the BOG honours, even if we made the GF. Has had a great captain year - time for some of the other leaders to support him! Carey takes back the lead for the hotly contested BTM honours.

Best on Ground
51 Ricciuto (+4)
31 McLeod
29 Edwards (+3)
25 Burton
23 Johncôck
18 Carey (+2)
15 Torney
15 Bode (+5)
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Ladhams
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
9 Smart (+1)
7 McGregor
6 Hart
6 Shirley
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
331 Total

Best Team Man
17 Carey (+2)
15 Torney
13 Bickley
13 Stenglein
13 Shirley
10 Ricciuto (+1)
9 Perrie
9 Smart (+3)
7 Massie
7 Biglands
5 Bassett
4 McGregor
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
2 Begley
2 Hart
1 Welsh
136 Total

Best Rookie
2 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Schuback
1 Skipworth
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
9 Abstained (+1)
5 n/a
22 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Great to see the players turn around their poor form & put in a decent 4 quarter effort for the first time in a while. Now for Brisbane as we hopefully continue our finals charge.

Roo still has his unbeatable BOG lead, but Edwards has overtaken Macca in the battle for minor placings. The Duck continues to hold his narrow BTM lead over JT. Meanwhile it was good to see Reilly get some rookie votes.


Best on Ground
52 Ricciuto (+1)
34 Edwards (+5)
31 McLeod
25 Burton
23 Johncock
20 Carey (+2)
15 Torney
15 Bode
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
11 Ladhams
11 Hart (+5)
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
9 Smart
9 Shirley (+3)
7 McGregor
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
347 Total

Best Team Man
17 Carey
15 Torney
13 Bickley
13 Stenglein
13 Shirley
10 Ricciuto
9 Perrie
9 Smart
8 Massie (+1)
7 Biglands
7 Bassett (+2)
5 Hart (+3)
4 McGregor
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
2 Begley
1 Welsh
142 Total

Best Rookie
3 Reilly (+1)
2 Mattner
1 Schuback
1 Skipworth
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
9 Abstained
5 n/a
23 Total

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well unfortunately the voting is all over & the final reulsts are in, given our exit from the finals.

Roo with 6 BOG effort easily won this year from Edwards, Macca & Birdman.

The Duck with all his goal assists won the BTM award, from the last game charging Bicks & JT.

Not sure whether anyone deserves the rookie award given we abstained so much of the time. With Reilly the leading player on 3 votes, it was a poor year for the rookies.

Best on Ground
54 Ricciuto (+2)
34 Edwards
31 McLeod
30 Burton (+5)
23 Johncock
20 Carey
15 Torney
15 Bode
13 Perrie
12 Bickley
12 Shirley (+3)
11 Ladhams
11 Hart
10 Massie
10 Bassett
9 Burns
9 Smart
8 McGregor (+1)
5 Stevens
5 Gallagher
5 Welsh
4 Biglands (+4)
4 Clarke
4 Stenglein
4 Goodwin
4 Begley
362 Total

Best Team Man
17 Carey
16 Bickley (+3)
15 Torney
13 Stenglein
13 Shirley
10 Ricciuto
9 Perrie
9 Smart
8 Massie
8 Biglands (+1)
7 Bassett
5 Hart
4 McGregor
3 Johncôck
3 Stevens
3 Clarke
2 Burton (+2)
2 Begley
1 Welsh
148 Total

Best Rookie
3 Reilly
2 Mattner
1 Schuback
1 Skipworth
1 Hentschel
1 Rutten
9 Abstained
6 n/a
24 Total

[Jars458]

On reflection I think McLeod polled too many votes in the B and F and Carey got too many easy votes in the top team man award.

Torney or Shirley would be my pick for that award on the night.

Reilly got most votes so he gets the award.

Congrats to Roo - a v good year.

McGregor probably deserved more B and F votes too.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Jars458
On reflection I think McLeod polled too many votes in the B and F and Carey got too many easy votes in the top team man award. You're forgetting that when McLeod plays well, he plays very well. He'll probably still be 2nd or 3rd for us in the Brownlow.

Torney or Shirley would be my pick for that award on the night. How is the BTM done? If it's done game by game I don't see Shirley - who only came in midway through the season - being much chance.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Jars458
On reflection I think McLeod polled too many votes in the B and.
Jars, Macca played very well early in the season, but that is a distant memory now. He had 22 of his 34 votes by round 9 (aprox 2.5 per game), then only got about 1 vote per game for the rest of the season. He only polled votes in a 8 (ie. a 3rd) of our games (with 3x BOG, 2x 2nds), which is not good enough for 1 of our top ranked players.

Compare this to Roo who far more consistent polling votes in 14 of our games (with 6x BOG, 4x 2nds). Also, Edwards polled in more games than Macca.


Originally posted by Jars458
Carey got too many easy votes in the top team man award. Torney or Shirley would be my pick for that award on the night.
As Dave said, unfortunately Shirley only started mid-season. He didn't poll a vote until round 14 & polled 13 votes in the remaining 10 games. Certainly polled the most per game. ie. Gave Carey a 10 vote head start!

Originally posted by Jars458
Reilly got most votes so he gets the award.
Definitely gave us the most quality footy from a rookie for the minutes he got.

Originally posted by Jars458
McGregor probably deserved more B and F votes too.
Agree, but goes un-noticed as he does his job week in week out with a minimum of fuss. Should have been much higher up for BTM IMO.