View Full Version : Rnd 4 - Geelong v Melbourne
Inferno_03
14 Apr 2003, 21:10
Where do you think the game will be won/lost.
Based on previous form there and a gut feeling i dont feel to confident, but the way geelong are playing we should still win, losing there in the past or not.
Good Luck Dees :)
We're always a 50/50 proposition. We put in some great performances on our travels last year, but we haven't won at Kardinia/Shell/Baytec/Skilled since 88!
I don't think the venue or the weather or even the opposition matters that much. If we play well we'll win.
Ms.Storm
15 Apr 2003, 03:56
I think the Demons should win, but its been a while since they won in Geelong and Geelong should be fired up.....so it makes for a difficult decision.
Geelong by 8 points.
I just hope its not like the Bullies game on Sunday and the Geelong boys fire up a bit....couldn't stand another boring *practice* game.;)
Somefella
16 Apr 2003, 01:30
Originally posted by Ms.Storm
I think the Demons should win, but its been a while since they won in Geelong and Geelong should be fired up.....so it makes for a difficult decision.
Geelong by 8 points.
I just hope its not like the Bullies game on Sunday and the Geelong boys fire up a bit....couldn't stand another boring *practice* game.;)
I couldnt give a ***** how we win, as long as we win... i wouldnt care if it was 0.1 (1) to 0.0 (0).. as long as we take the 4 points.
Ms.Storm
16 Apr 2003, 03:19
Originally posted by Somefella
I couldnt give a ***** how we win, as long as we win... i wouldnt care if it was 0.1 (1) to 0.0 (0).. as long as we take the 4 points.
If the scoreline was how you suggest above, its more like soccer, not afl.......
Well I am afraid I prefer a contest in football...but each to their own.........you know you respect other people's opinions too:)
no. 5 is alive
16 Apr 2003, 16:35
Ms Storm, I agree with you that close, good encounters are the best kind of game to watch...
but when it comes to the Dee's I'm never happy unless we are at least 10 goals clear! I don't care what standard the game is to watch as long as we win. Sad I know!
ScouseCat
16 Apr 2003, 16:39
Originally posted by BT
We're always a 50/50 proposition. We put in some great performances on our travels last year, but we haven't won at Kardinia/Shell/Baytec/Skilled since 88!
I don't think the venue or the weather or even the opposition matters that much. If we play well we'll win.
The last time you guys beat us down at Geelong was the first time my Dad took me to Geelong for a game, way back in 1988.
To say Geelong will be desperate in this game is an understatement... we simply can't afford to lose to Melbourne, as 0-4 would surely be the end of our finals hopes for this year.
Anyone here going down to the Cattery for the game on Saturday??
Good luck guys, hope it's a good game. :)
Somefella
16 Apr 2003, 16:47
Originally posted by ScouseCat
The last time you guys beat us down at Geelong was the first time my Dad took me to Geelong for a game, way back in 1988.
To say Geelong will be desperate in this game is an understatement... we simply can't afford to lose to Melbourne, as 0-4 would surely be the end of our finals hopes for this year.
Anyone here going down to the Cattery for the game on Saturday??
Good luck guys, hope it's a good game. :)
What a nice bloke.
Being 0-4 isn't the end to your finals campaign.... 11 wins got into the finals last year... so you would need to win 11 of your next 18 to get in... which isn't too bad.
After the saints in round 5... you have a tough run... Brissy at Kardinia, WC at Subi, and Sydney in Sydney.
It's too early in the season to judge a team.. you could have won last week but you were tired.... Hopefully you get tired early this week and we win... but I do like the cats and I'd have them in the finals above any other team in the comp.
no. 5 is alive
16 Apr 2003, 18:05
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Anyone here going down to the Cattery for the game on Saturday??
Good luck guys, hope it's a good game. :)
Yep, I'm making the trip - my first time to the Cattery.
Good luck to you too - think it will be a good game, but as long as one of our forwards fires up I think we will be too strong.
Originally posted by ScouseCat
The last time you guys beat us down at Geelong was the first time my Dad took me to Geelong for a game, way back in 1988.
To say Geelong will be desperate in this game is an understatement... we simply can't afford to lose to Melbourne, as 0-4 would surely be the end of our finals hopes for this year
Anyone here going down to the Cattery for the game on Saturday??
Good luck guys, hope it's a good game. :)
I'm planning on making the trip.
CowboyFromHell
17 Apr 2003, 00:56
I'll be there for the game....
Unless it's raining! ;) :D
Ms.Storm
17 Apr 2003, 02:24
Can you change your pick....afterall its a woman's perogative;)
Demons by a whisker:p ...say 2 points.
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
I'll be there for the game....
Unless it's raining! ;) :D
:p :p
Geelong should be hungry and determined.... whether they will be is an entirely different matter.
Melbourne by 21 points.
ScouseCat
20 Apr 2003, 00:43
Bad luck Demons fans, it certainly was an arm wrestle for the first 3 quarters and from what I saw, you guys have the talent to make the finals, it's just a matter of consistency.
What do you guys think of the comment that you are too one-dimensional when going forward?? David Neitz was well beaten today by Matthew Scarlett, and instead of kicking to another target, the Demons kept kicking to Neitz and the scoring dried up.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, excluding the return match at the MCG of course!! :)
Deestroy
20 Apr 2003, 01:14
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Bad luck Demons fans, it certainly was an arm wrestle for the first 3 quarters and from what I saw, you guys have the talent to make the finals, it's just a matter of consistency.
What do you guys think of the comment that you are too one-dimensional when going forward?? David Neitz was well beaten today by Matthew Scarlett, and instead of kicking to another target, the Demons kept kicking to Neitz and the scoring dried up.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, excluding the return match at the MCG of course!! :)
I wouldn't say we went forward one-dimentionally, but then I wouldn't say we really went forward in the last half, a truly pathetic display.
Quote from Cowboyfromhell on MFC Flame
We can't win at Geelong as it's a ****house ground to play on. It's got amatuer facilities (and hey, I should know!) and your preperation get's screwed around because of it.
Please explain the amatuer facilities.
CowboyFromHell
20 Apr 2003, 16:20
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Please explain the amatuer facilities.
The rooms. I've seen them before, they are second rate.
No_short_kicks
20 Apr 2003, 17:01
I also took the trip down to 'Skilled Stadium' and I agree that the facilities were very sub-standard.
While its great to go to a traditional 'country' ground...for AFL....a few improvements need to be made.
1. ticket prices....very high for standing room only tickets...
2. Scoreboard...there were only two small (score-only) scoreboards that were hard to read.
3. Seating arrangements....the MFC cheersquad was at one end while other seated members sat in the forward pocket at the other end. Standing melbourne fans were stuck a fair way back. ddnt' away fans used to get the centre wing down there?
Melbourne's pitiful last quarter made the day alot worse though.
Originally posted by No_short_kicks
1. ticket prices....very high for standing room only tickets...
You don't pay for standing room.You pay for ground entry,as you do at all grounds,then you can stand anywhere in the 'Standing Room' area.
3. Standing melbourne fans were stuck a fair way back. ddnt' away fans used to get the centre wing down there?
Its first in best dressed for the standing room.There's no set spots for certain groups.
Originally posted by No_short_kicks
2. Scoreboard...there were only two small (score-only) scoreboards that were hard to read.
If you stood, which by the sounds of things you did, then reading the scoreboard should be no problem at all. I've sat across the other side of the ground and have had no trouble reading the score, so I don't know what your complaining about.
CowboyFromHell
21 Apr 2003, 01:56
Originally posted by Catman
If you stood, which by the sounds of things you did, then reading the scoreboard should be no problem at all. I've sat across the other side of the ground and have had no trouble reading the score, so I don't know what your complaining about.
An Electronic one maybe? I mean, I felt like I should have been watching Newtown vs. Lara or something on the weekend the way things are at Skilled.
With the seating - it costs 10 bucks for a seat at the G, a small fortune at Skilled. We had this argument last year, and you guys had no answers then. Nothings changed at Skilled - it's far below par.
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
Nothings changed at Skilled - it's far below par.
Much like Melbourne's form. :D
At least you went this year Fairweather.Now you can head off to the snow.
ScouseCat
21 Apr 2003, 13:31
Originally posted by Deestroy
I wouldn't say we went forward one-dimentionally, but then I wouldn't say we really went forward in the last half, a truly pathetic display.
I have seen Melbourne in both losses so far this season and on both occasions, the defence has worked out that Melbourne go for David Neitz on most occasions. This is fine when Neitz is getting the ball and kicking goals, but when he is getting beaten like he did against Scarlett and Fletcher, Melbourne's scoring dries up.
Deestroy
21 Apr 2003, 13:48
Originally posted by ScouseCat
I have seen Melbourne in both losses so far this season and on both occasions, the defence has worked out that Melbourne go for David Neitz on most occasions. This is fine when Neitz is getting the ball and kicking goals, but when he is getting beaten like he did against Scarlett and Fletcher, Melbourne's scoring dries up.
It's all good and well to say that was the problem, but the fact we went inside 50 in the last quarter I counted 3 times. One was smouthered, one was to Robbo and one to Neitz thenwhat you say doesn't really hold up. When the ball was kicked to Neitz, most of the time it was bouncing off his chest, so I wouldn't say he was convincingly beaten by Scarlett either, he was beaten by himself.
CowboyFromHell
21 Apr 2003, 16:23
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Much like Melbourne's form. :D
At least you went this year Fairweather.Now you can head off to the snow.
Don't get that ****y mate, Geelong were pretty **** for most of the game. You guys won't win another game for ages. By the way, I believe we have more wins than you guys anyway.
Yep, I'll be off to the snow alright. I find it amusing that this is your only comeback when the fact that your home ground is a lump of **** is highlighted. You don't have any defence for it. It's a pile of ****. You may as well play some home games down at Queens Park or something, that ground would hold more fans as it is.
ScouseCat
21 Apr 2003, 21:58
Originally posted by Deestroy
It's all good and well to say that was the problem, but the fact we went inside 50 in the last quarter I counted 3 times. One was smouthered, one was to Robbo and one to Neitz thenwhat you say doesn't really hold up. When the ball was kicked to Neitz, most of the time it was bouncing off his chest, so I wouldn't say he was convincingly beaten by Scarlett either, he was beaten by himself.
I think that takes away from how well Scarlett and the rest of the Geelong defence played to block where Neitz was leading. For the first 3 quarters, Geelong's defenders had Melbourne worked out when they went forward and as for the last quarter, the Demons simply dropped off once we got a couple of goals ahead as they couldn't win.
Anyway, it was just an observation I have picked up from watching both Melbourne losses this season.
Scarlett was pretty good I thought, however Neeta DID drop far more than he marked so... yeah.
We were simply terrible in that last quarter. Too reactive, too loose. Can anyone tell me who David Clarke's opponent was? I know he's quick but getting on your own in the goal square TWICE!!! It's just dumb, lazy footy!
Credit to Kingsley too, he knew as early as the 2nd quarter that he had Carroll's measure. He was shooing away his teamates in the 2nd Quarter at the Ford stand end because he was itching for a crack 1 out with the youngster. Nathan gave his all but he would've been better suited to a 2nd or 3rd option in his AFL debut, Mooney perhaps?
Corey Enright is my type of footballer.
Yze's conceeding of a 50 m penalty in the 3rd quarter was the end in my view, we never even looked like scoring from then on.
Chris Heffernan was our last man standing in a performance lacking much in input from our "Leadership group".
Originally posted by BT
Can anyone tell me who David Clarke's opponent was? I know he's quick but getting on your own in the goal square TWICE!!! It's just dumb, lazy footy!
Good question,but Clarke was playing in the forward pocket when he kicked his goals,so his opponent had run up the ground.
When he kicked his 2nd,he was about 30 metres clear of any Dee's player.
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Good question,but Clarke was playing in the forward pocket when he kicked his goals,so his opponent had run up the ground.
When he kicked his 2nd,he was about 30 metres clear of any Dee's player.
I know he was 30 meters clear it happened right in front of me!
Ridiculous!
Deestroy
23 Apr 2003, 03:16
Originally posted by ScouseCat
I think that takes away from how well Scarlett and the rest of the Geelong defence played to block where Neitz was leading.
As it should, because they didn't have a lot to do. When the ball was kicked to Neitz (not that often) after the 10 minute mark of the first quarter, he was his own worst enemy. Same with White who dropped I don't know how many marks. The midfield was what let us down, as we were 2nd to the ball all the time and were killed at stop plays, what is usually our biggest strength, last weak was our biggest weakness.
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
An Electronic one maybe? I mean, I felt like I should have been watching Newtown vs. Lara or something on the weekend the way things are at Skilled.
With the seating - it costs 10 bucks for a seat at the G, a small fortune at Skilled. We had this argument last year, and you guys had no answers then. Nothings changed at Skilled - it's far below par.
I have to bring up the issue of owning your ground. We all know Melbourne don't, so therefore you don't need to worry about finding the cash to pay for new gizmos like scoreboards, it's already done for you. See, we own our ground and with money tough to come by we can't just go and buy a new scoreboard at the drop of a hat.
What is the point of installing a new electronic board now, when we are going to have installed when our ground is redeveloped?
Anyway, a scoreboard is a scoreboard, as long as it tells the score I couldn't care what it looks like.
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
Don't get that ****y mate, Geelong were pretty **** for most of the game. You guys won't win another game for ages. By the way, I believe we have more wins than you guys anyway.
Yep, I'll be off to the snow alright. I find it amusing that this is your only comeback when the fact that your home ground is a lump of **** is highlighted. You don't have any defence for it. It's a pile of ****. You may as well play some home games down at Queens Park or something, that ground would hold more fans as it is.
And your only comeback is that we have a sh.t ground, which is still AFL standard so you comment is unfounded. You snobs have had it too good for too long, and a visit to our ground is just like the old suburban footy, which many people thoroughly enjoy, yet you sooks can't cope.
Next time, don't come, stay home and watch the game on Fox Footy and save yourself the embarrassment of seeing your side humiliated at Skilled Stadium again.
16 years and counting.
Originally posted by Catman
Anyway, a scoreboard is a scoreboard, as long as it tells the score I couldn't care what it looks like.
Why would a Melbourne supporter want to look at the scoreboard at Skilled Stadium ? :D
CowboyFromHell
23 Apr 2003, 18:39
Team boards are for supporters of each team. Respect the team when you post on their board.
We talked nicely on your board, if you can't do the same here, don't post.