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Drummond
8 Dec 2009, 17:32
I watched Saw V first as it was on Movie One the other day as I was bored. I had only seen maybe a minute or two of the series when my brother had watched them but I had never really intended to give them a go. I'm not a real fan of horror movies and don’t like watching gore but I watched V, was intrigued more than anything else so over the past week I've watched the first four films.

Saw I was brilliant. A pretty simple plot that just delivered and the ending was terrific with Jigsaw having his ‘front row’ seat the entire time. Dr Gordon sawing off his foot, wow, so bad. The only thing I regret is that I watched the 5th film first so I knew a few things about the earlier films, especially when reading message boards (why I do it I don’t know!).

Saw II has mixed reviews; some love it while some hate it. I’ve got to say though I really, really enjoyed it. Erik Matthews was a great character, there’s no way a dad could just sit there and wait for the time to expire while watching his son die. Of course the twist at the end revealed that the detectives were watching a tape and that had he sat there and talked with Jigsaw his son would have returned to him. Loved the Amanda twist (although somewhat knew it because of the fact I read some stuff) and the recorded twist. The ending is just so chilling, when Daniel was taken down below to the exact same bathroom as the two guys from the first film, wow. And Matthews wandering around hoping to discover his son while we know he’s not going to find him. Then the very end with Matthews chained up and listening to the tape from Amanda, Jigsaw’s apprentice. Personally I can’t understand why Saw fans didn’t like this one. I struggled to watch the Needle Pit though.

Saw III, the majority of fans seem to rate this one second to the original but I was disappointed. I know they’re all gory but to me this one was really extreme, the hook trap, the black guy’s body being twisted, the pigs being slaughtered onto the judge, there was a lot of scenes that I struggled to watch. I really enjoyed the flashbacks to Amanda helping set up Lawrence and Adam and how she made her traps unwinnable. As usual, the twist ending was brilliant. The whole thing was a test for Amanda, she had the ability to let someone live which would in-turn save herself but she couldn’t do it so everyone’s lives were ruined. I guess I just didn’t have much of a connection to Jeff and his ‘traps’ weren’t that entertaining. A bit too much gore, slower moving storyline, the weakest one.

Watched Saw IV today, great movie! I’d say it’s behind the original and probably on a par with the second and easily ahead of the 3rd. Liked the introduction of the character Agent Strahm and as I liked Detective Rigg it was good to see him with a large role. I guess as a result of watching all these movies I’m somewhat desensitized to the gore as I didn’t really mind the autopsy scene. I struggled a bit with the girls’ hair being tightened and her scalp breaking but really, I thought the gore in this one was toned down a bit which was to my liking. Lots of character development of Jigsaw, if you can call it that since he’s ‘dead’, so the flashbacks of him and how he got to become such a man were terrific. Again, another top notch ending. Shattering (literally) to see Erik Matthews killed when another second would’ve meant he, and Rigg, survived. To think that Rigg wanting to save everyone was what got them killed. The realisation that Hoffman is the one continuing Jigsaw’s legacy was great, although ruined because I watched V first! A shorter movie, better pacing than III, and better characters.

So I’m now going to re-watch V and it’ll now make so much more sense. :p Even though I watched it only a week or so ago I can only remember vividly what happened because it was all so new. I remember that it was more tame that the previous films and that there wasn’t really a twist ending as such, apart from Agent Strahm’s death and Hoffman going down in that ice thingy, which we saw for the first time in Saw IV.

Jigsaw doesn't make it easy though. He likes to preach that if you listen carefully to the rules and abide by them you will survive, but seriously who in those situations would? Saw II and IV both had endings that when you watch it you think if only he had just done that, but would you have?!

I’m the kind of person that doesn’t really just watch movies and them be done with them, I like to really think about them, as I’m sure you can tell. It’s really surprising that I even enjoy these movies as I don’t think I own one horror movie and all the gore isn’t my style. However there’s something about these movies that really fascinates me. As someone elsewhere pointed out, these movies are like a jigsaw. The series isn’t a case of one movie ending and another one starting, they’re all semi related and the pieces fit. Clever franchise that is a lot more than just gory scenes. Fantastic twists, one of the best themes I’ve heard, and movies that, at least for me, make you think about what’s just happened. :thumbsu:

Macca19
8 Dec 2009, 18:04
Good overview mate.

For me, I also didnt mind 2. Didnt think much of 3 or 5 though.

HBK619
8 Dec 2009, 18:30
Agree, good overview.

V was my least fave of the series. I just didn't like it at all, massive let down. No twist I can live with, but the whole movie just didn't gel for me. The main 'game' was very poorly thought out, had very little time dedicated to it. I didn't mind the Hoffman/Strahm battle but Strahm getting killed off as he did was gutwrenching for me, even more than Matthews in 4 (which felt way too quick for such a great character). For me Strahm's ending was the most unwatchable moment for me and I really don't cringe at anything in the Saw series, but that got to me.

VI however really brought the whole series back on track and I felt like it could've ended there and it would've been absolutely perfect. Obviously this won't happen and we'll most likely be getting another 2 at least (although VI didn't do too well at BO, but the movies are made on a shoestring budget as it is anyway). VI was probably the strongest movie overall since the first. It was really well thought out, the main 'game' was fantastic, had a great amount of time dedicated to it and in the end the twist was unpredictable and absolutely fantastic.

If I had to rate the series from best to worst I'd probably go 1>6>3>2>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>5. Although I've still enjoyed all bar 5 which I just didn't like at all.

Probably rate 3 ahead of 2 mainly because it was just absolutely brutal which was fantastic (:p) and the story felt a bit stronger than 2's was. Also I thought the acting in 3 far outweighed that of 2, which had some poor performances from the lesser 'contestants' in the 'game'.

celtic_pride
8 Dec 2009, 18:32
I love the series, atlhough Saw 4 was the least favourite one for me, whilst 5 is a return to form (I've yet to see Saw VI though, waiting for the DVD release)

likka
8 Dec 2009, 18:52
For me, I also didnt mind 2. Didnt think much of 3 or 5 though.

Agree... though for me 2>1>3>4>5

Drummond
13 Jul 2010, 01:34
Watched Saw VI the other day, big return to form. :thumbsu: Really enjoyed it, as it seems most did.

Excellent flashback scenes with Jigsaw, and nice to see his wife Jill having a slightly larger role, and that ending was superb. Pacing excellent, good dialogue, probably the best Saw film since the second installment. Really didn't see that ending coming, thought the woman and son were Williams family and the woman was who he was cheating on with. In the end she was his sister and the mother and son were the family of the man Williams basically allowed to die.

Was good to have Perez back, nice little 'twist' there, even if she did die eventually anyway. :p

Looking forward to VII. Obviously the big question is whether Dr. Gordon has been alive this whole time and if so, what's he been doing?

Kong
13 Jul 2010, 09:57
I'm also not a fan of horror films in general, and hate movies that create gore just for the sake of it. However these films pull you in with their story telling, and I'm glad my girlfriend made me watch the 1st all those years ago. I now own the first 5, and will buy the 6th just before the 7th comes out.

I think I see things a little differently to most, in regards to each film.

Obviously the 1st is brilliant.
I liked the 2nd, although it's not quite as good.
I wasn't much of a fan of the 3rd; didn't care about Jeff, and overall didn't really feel it added much to the series.
I hated the 4th; while many claim this was a return to form, I felt it was poorly told and focused too much on gore (the scalping trap was the only time I've ever looked away during the series, although I can now watch it). The only good thing to come of it was setting up Hoffman for the next few.
I really enjoyed the 5th. Moreso the first time I saw it, but I really enjoyed the game of cat and mouse with Strahm and Hoffman, and the eventual 'twist' (if only small) at the end. As somebody said, for him to get so close, and, well, you could say it crushed me :p.
I enjoyed the 6th, but haven't seen it since the cinema, so can't really remember too much.

So my rankings would be 1>2>5>6>3>4.

Oh and Cary Elwes (Dr Gordon) has confirmed he's in the 7th (and final) film. :thumbsu:

Toothpick Vic
14 Jul 2010, 22:28
For me the original is head and shoulders above the rest. A twist that I don't think many would have seen coming.. Brilliantly layered, just a very good movie.. Plus Im a big Leigh Whannell fan..

Can't say I thought much of 2-4.. 3 in particular I thought just totally missed the mark.. Im not huge on the gore factor and found a couple of scenes throughout those movies particularly disturbing (the needle pit, the rack, the scalping of that blonde bird, the whole brain op with the powerdrill).... Actually for me the highlight of the middle Saws was the performance of Donnie Walberg, surprised me a bit.

5 redeemed the series for me somewhat but mainly because of the ending. I actually thought the Saw 5 climax was the best since the original.. You can't help but get drawn into a sense of panic when the walls begin closing in on Strahm....

I've not seen 6 yet but will be doing so only for the story as I can't go much on the gore haha! Couldn't ever watch a Saw movie at the cinema, there is just nowhere to hide!

rocker_oz33
15 Jul 2010, 13:27
l kinda liked saw V,not sure why l remember feeling disappointed after watching saw iV but saw V as got me but into the series again.after watching saw V l watched the DVD extra's they have made a saw scary house you walk thou it,it has all the main scenes like in the movie eg bathroom scene like in saw one with people dressed up trying to scare you.

kwame
16 Jul 2010, 01:34
anyone ever play manhunt or manhunt 2 on ps3?? was loosely based on the saw series....think it eventually got banned in australia.

HBK619
16 Jul 2010, 02:03
anyone ever play manhunt or manhunt 2 on ps3?? was loosely based on the saw series....think it eventually got banned in australia.Manhunt certainly wasn't. Saw was a 2004 release, Manhunt 2003 (and most likely developed for around 2-4 years prior).

Manhunt 2 might have had some influences, but it was already built around what Manhunt had. It was banned here amid massive controversy.