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If you had to choose between Clint McKay or Peter Siddle who would it be?
I am assuming you mean for the next Test?
I am a big Siddle fan but he needs to be spelled. Why we thought it was good idea to fly him all over the world playing meaningless ODI matches the past 6 months I have no idea. Especially since it is not like he is a gun ODI bowler anyway. Just looks burnt out and lacking in fire.
Worth having a look at McKay, he has done well every time the spotlight has been on him, let's see him in the real stuff.
McKay. Shouldn't gamble on unfit players
I would vote neither if that was an option.
Invigoration
9 Dec 2009, 18:12
Bollinger
Kim Hagdorn
9 Dec 2009, 18:22
I would vote neither if that was an option.
Same.
You cannot gamble on a bloke with a niggle like Siddle has. McKay has to play given the squad they have picked
aussie1st
9 Dec 2009, 18:28
McKay, no point in playing Siddle whose been largely ineffective this series anyway. Rest him up and hopefully he'll be back to his best for his home match.
Thommo 42
9 Dec 2009, 19:49
Siddle should be rested, McKay should be blooded, although Clark may come in for a bit of leadership and experience in the attack.
bombersno1
9 Dec 2009, 20:17
If both are at 100% fitness, Siddle is the better bowler.
If both are at 100% fitness, Siddle is the better bowler.
True but Siddle is not fit so McKay has to play
Andrew Mc
9 Dec 2009, 20:20
Both fit? Siddle.
Siddle not fit? Clark.
I would vote neither if that was an option.
Agreed.
Illinois Nazi
9 Dec 2009, 20:36
Clark
bombersno1
9 Dec 2009, 20:45
True but Siddle is not fit so McKay has to play
Well yes. Athough I would not be against McDonald playing. At least we know what he brings to the table. If Siddle is out I would play Andrew McDonald in Perth
Drummond
9 Dec 2009, 22:24
If both are at 100% fitness, Siddle is the better bowler.
Agree with this.
At full fitness I rate Siddle, good young fast bowler. McKay is extremely promising and should develop into a very good test bowler but ATS I'd go Siddle. Now obviously if Siddle isn't right to play then I'd have no hesitation in selecting McKay.
Stuart Clark is done.
King Elvis
10 Dec 2009, 00:03
Clark, easily.
They better rest Siddle - god knows why the morons decided that playing Hilfenhaus in the ODI Series when he has knee tendonitis was a good idea, but really, nothing these guys do surprises me anymore.
Australian Cricket is on the downward spiral and it's primarily because of those in charge.
bombersno1
10 Dec 2009, 00:46
Everyone saying Clark surely has not seen him bowl much recently. He is barely bowling 125kmph. That is 10kmph down from his usual speed 12-24months ago. He is nowhere near selection.
fraser25
10 Dec 2009, 06:12
Everyone saying Clark surely has not seen him bowl much recently. He is barely bowling 125kmph. That is 10kmph down from his usual speed 12-24months ago. He is nowhere near selection.
wasnt it one of the selectors whom said clark the other day or am i imagining things.
redragger
10 Dec 2009, 06:38
Cockley or Starc. Maybe even Henriques for 'balance'...
Magoffin or Geeves for me.
Everyone saying Clark surely has not seen him bowl much recently. He is barely bowling 125kmph. That is 10kmph down from his usual speed 12-24months ago. He is nowhere near selection.
You're hardly in a position to be criticising others' views on this when you've said McDonald (yes, McDonald!) should play in an injured Siddle's place. :eek:
King Elvis
10 Dec 2009, 08:42
Everyone saying Clark surely has not seen him bowl much recently. He is barely bowling 125kmph. That is 10kmph down from his usual speed 12-24months ago. He is nowhere near selection.
McGrath bowled around 130kph for a lot of his later years, and he still dominated.
Clark is a canny bastard, gets great bounce and moves it off the pitch; you don't need to be lightning quick if you can get climbing bounce and movement.
Siddle needs a rest. Clark is probably the safe bet but i'm not sure what we gain out of that in terms of development, probably a better opportunity to blood McKay
Otherwise...unleash the ranga!
Could do worse than Noffke tbh.
King Elvis
10 Dec 2009, 09:49
That's the other factor - if Siddle had any kind of a twinge/tweak in Radelaide, then give him the next Test off.
They played Hilfenhaus through a pointless ODI Series and now we have to rest him due to tendonitis; wtf kind of man management is that?
Yeah compared to a game like footy, injury management seems pretty unprofessional in cricket.
If a bloke says he's ok to play they seem to play them without actually thinking of the consequences. Our depth covers up mismanagement for sure
McGrath bowled around 130kph for a lot of his later years, and he still dominated.
Clark is a canny bastard, gets great bounce and moves it off the pitch; you don't need to be lightning quick if you can get climbing bounce and movement.
Problem is Clark's top speed these days is around 125km/h, and he starts spells at around 115km/h... which in my opinion is too slow considering the flat tracks that a majority of test cricket is played on these days.
On tracks with a bit of life Clark could be a handful, but I'd be inclinded to give McKay a crack ahead of Clark these days. Similar style bowlers I think, but McKay has a bit more zip.
mattymac
10 Dec 2009, 11:33
McKay hands down. Gets good bounce, good tall lad. Good control. Gone from strength to strength lately. Get him in there while he's hot. Has taken some stick a cuppla times in ODDs (who hasn't?) but generally copes well with pressure from what I've seen. He'll be a cornerstone of our attack in 12-18 months
Having said that, Siddle's scans didn't show anything major and all the talk from hilditch is that we'll probably end up carrying him through another test
Belnakor
10 Dec 2009, 11:35
Yeah compared to a game like footy, injury management seems pretty unprofessional in cricket.
If a bloke says he's ok to play they seem to play them without actually thinking of the consequences. Our depth covers up mismanagement for sure
it is ridicilous to even consider playing Siddle this time considering he'll have to send down 40+ overs over the test.
Think Brett Lee - he played half the summer at about 20% fitness because he was bullshitting the fitness staff, and later came out he had a broken foot or some such.
McKay, no point in playing Siddle whose been largely ineffective this series anyway. Rest him up and hopefully he'll be back to his best for his home match.
This.
peternorth
10 Dec 2009, 11:41
brett lee :D
Belnakor
10 Dec 2009, 11:41
the other thing is Siddle is axtually quite injury prone, yet they are willing to carry him.... just stupidity. And siddle isn't even bowling that good!
Theres no problem really carrying a batsmen with a dodgy hamstring but a bowler? sheesh.
eth-dog
10 Dec 2009, 11:41
Siddle is better when fully fit, but McKay should play in Perth. Clark is far from his best, he is just bowling Right Arm Mediums at the moment- like Andrew Symonds. Also McKay>Clark
The 747
10 Dec 2009, 12:15
Siddle needs a rest. Clark is probably the safe bet but i'm not sure what we gain out of that in terms of development, probably a better opportunity to blood McKay
Otherwise...unleash the ranga!
Could do worse than Noffke tbh.
Noffke will never play for Australia in Test cricket. Not good enough, too old.
No point picking Clark. He is done.
Noffke will never play for Australia in Test cricket. Not good enough, too old.
Yeah never would consider it except for a stop gap. He's bowling well, batting too.
But like clark...a possible bandaid for a test or 2
legend166
10 Dec 2009, 15:14
Can I have a non-Victorian option?
The 747
10 Dec 2009, 15:57
Can I have a non-Victorian option?
Beau Casson? Aaron Bird? Burt Cockley the express quick at 130kph? :thumbsu:
The 747
10 Dec 2009, 16:00
Yeah never would consider it except for a stop gap. He's bowling well, batting too.
But like clark...a possible bandaid for a test or 2
No point with band aids in these times, we are an average team and need to rebuild. Better to throw someone young in there and get them the experience.
Granted it would be different if we were not playing WI and Pakistan this summer.
Beau Casson? Aaron Bird? Burt Cockley the express quick at 130kph? :thumbsu:
What happened to him?
Ill Chicken
10 Dec 2009, 17:21
You cannot gamble on a bloke with a niggle like Siddle has. McKay has to play given the squad they have picked
Why not, they did it in the MCG test last year, but hey, at least we can't lose the series from here.
The 747
10 Dec 2009, 17:36
What happened to him?
He is still around I think. I am sure if he is available NSW will chuck him into their team at some point.
No point with band aids in these times,.
Yeah i agree, main reason i think we should look at someone other than Clark.
I didn't serioiusly think Noffke would get the nod, merely as i said....you could do worse
Whacker
10 Dec 2009, 18:33
McKay if siddle isnt fit. The selectors shouldnt be thinking about clark, we need to rebuild and now is the perfect time to do it. Except the selectors will try and hold onto the fading old blokes to try and get them to the ashes next year and after that the rebuilding will start. Hopefully anyway, who knows what the bloody selectors will do they dont even know what they are doing half, wait no eighty percent, of the time
GoDoggies
10 Dec 2009, 18:36
He is still around I think. I am sure if he is available NSW will chuck him into their team at some point.
haha its been a while since I've heard his name thrown up.
bombersno1
10 Dec 2009, 19:53
Bird injured his shoulder in pre season. Is currently only bowling at 75% in the nets. Is playing grade cricket but only as a batsman. Is due to start bowling in January.
Hoffy95
10 Dec 2009, 21:11
McKay for mine.
No point risking Siddle. Can't see the Windies replicating what they did last test, so it's not a huge risk blooding McKay.
Brett Geeves is pretty solid and is someone who doesn't seem to get a mention. Of course he won't play, but I wouldn't be against him getting a look in that's for sure.
The 747
11 Dec 2009, 12:35
Bird injured his shoulder in pre season. Is currently only bowling at 75% in the nets. Is playing grade cricket but only as a batsman. Is due to start bowling in January.
:cool:
Clark's Test hopes fade with back injury / However, Clark was not expecting to be available until January, which would effectively rule him out of contention for all of Australia's home Tests.
http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/438910.html
hard to see him in aussie team again now which is a bit of a shame.
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am very interested to see how mcckay will go when he gets a chance. useful lower order batsman. can't blame them for picking sids if he's fit, but i'd like them to rest him just to get a look at mcckay.
The 747
11 Dec 2009, 16:17
All the noises coming from the Aus camp seem to indicate we will pick Siddle, which is a shame. For the following reasons:
We are 1 nil up against the second worst Test side in the world and can't lose the series
Would be good to have a look at another bowler (McKay in this instance but in general we need to build up some bench strength because our bowlers currently struggle to take 20 wickets)
Siddle is out of form, down on pace and looks tired. Drop him for Perth, he will get angry and fire up and play him in Melbourne
FFS Siddle has been diagnosed with a hamstring strain that would keep an AFL player out for three weeks. He said himself to the media the scan showed a strain, bleeding and fluid in his hamstring.
Why the **** is he even being considered for this next test?
Is CA so lacking in balls that they are not willing to make the decision for him. He is a 24 year old bloke with a history or injury and they plan on letting him make the call when he is already injured? That is plain ridiculous.
Methinks he may have heard that the WACA curator is preparing a potential green top and doesn't want to miss out. The strip being prepared has never been used for a FC match and the curator has publicly stated will be quick and bouncy.
Ill Chicken
11 Dec 2009, 19:55
They've been saying that every year though. The last good fastman's pitch was against England on Vaughan's first tour.
Cousin Jed
11 Dec 2009, 23:12
Methinks he may have heard that the WACA curator is preparing a potential green top and doesn't want to miss out. The strip being prepared has never been used for a FC match and the curator has publicly stated will be quick and bouncy.
No hope in hell of it being a green top.
Jimthegreat
12 Dec 2009, 08:28
Take McKay anyway. Siddle, like Johnson, can be dangerous but leaks way too much between being dangerous. Pressure bowling wins Tests. No co-incidence we've struggled to win series since last years Indian Tour. The one series we did win in SA was when Siddle and Johnson really got their act together and bowled beautiful at high pressure and speed. After that they've both regressed since. Fair to say Siddle's certainly struggled since SA. At the moment can't have Johnson and Siddle in the same team just for the lack of any consistent pressure. Johnson would be a perfect foil with 3 other high pressure bowlers as he could just attack. Great in the McGrath, Gillespie, Warne era. As the spearhead, not enough pressure. Too many match-losing spells between those great match-winning spells. One series win against true opposition since September last year is testimony.
bouncing back
12 Dec 2009, 14:42
siddle is quicker and more firyer. he's only 24 and has much improvement in him.
23hammy23
13 Dec 2009, 01:19
i really like siddle and hes almost cemnted in the squad but why risk an injury early in the summer. although picking mckay could be going into unknown territory. so i think go for experience put this match/series away then look at new things
dr nick
13 Dec 2009, 13:27
There are 2, possibly 3 new south welshmen that should be considered above McKay.
I wouldn't gamble on an unfit player in Siddle.
eth-dog
13 Dec 2009, 13:37
There are 2, possibly 3 new south welshmen that should be considered above McKay.
I wouldn't gamble on an unfit player in Siddle.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! McKay deserves his place in the 12, you're just saying that because McKay's Victorian. Also name them, I would like to see who you think should get a gig ahead of Clint
dr nick
13 Dec 2009, 15:07
hehe a lot of Victorians think they are being victimised, but it probably just seems that way because there has been a dearth of talent from Victoria for some time now, and it's just so hard to justify selecting the likes of White and McGain and what have you.
Bollinger and Clark should be higher priorities, McKay would come in behind them. In terms of spinners Smith really should be pushing Hauritz for that spot too IMO.
eth-dog
13 Dec 2009, 15:20
hehe a lot of Victorians think they are being victimised, but it probably just seems that way because there has been a dearth of talent from Victoria for some time now, and it's just so hard to justify selecting the likes of White and McGain and what have you.
Bollinger and Clarkshould be higher priorities, McKay would come in behind them. In terms of spinners Smith really should be pushing Hauritz for that spot too IMO.
Dearth Talent? How about Aaron Finch, winning that ODD game off his own bat? or Matthew Wade, a guy who bats behind the likes of Hodge, Hussey, White and McDonald, arguably the best middle-order in domestic cricket, and still makes 50's and 100's in the FC arena? Peter Siddle, a key member of the three-pronged pace attack of Australia's best side? Michael Hill, the guy who captained the u/18 Australian side? Even John Hastings, who has improved out of sight this season, being one of Victoria's most consistent performers this season? Are those guys untalented?
Bollinger is already in the side, and you seriously think Stuart Clark, with a back injury, and bowling 110-125 kph deliveries should be in the side ahead of McKay, who bowls 135+ kph with just as good line and length? gimme a break. McKay is far better than Clark atm. Who do you say is the third, I'll tell you why McKay is better.
dr nick
13 Dec 2009, 15:35
Who do you say is the third, I'll tell you why McKay is better.
Incase you had trouble reading my post, I said "Bollinger and Clark should be higher priorities, McKay would come in behind them. In terms of spinners Smith really should be pushing Hauritz for that spot too IMO."
Has Stuart Clark got a back injury atm? Must have sustained that playing WA if that's the case.
Can't believe all the calls on here to blood McKay. If he was a NSW player there'd be a massive outcry about him being not good enough and too inexperienced, another example of baggy blue favouritism, etc.
The answer to the opening poll, despite it being a Victoran's wet dream, is neither. Glad to see that seems to be a bit of a concensus. Siddle is easily the better bowler when fit and deserves his place in the team, but he's not. Gambling on unfit players (especially pace bowlers) is always a crappy selection policy. As it is neither is Test quality at the moment.
In the current crappy situation (i.e. every pace bowler in Australia who actually deserves to be selected is either injured or already in the team) the best pick is Brett Geeves. In form and unlike McKay, actually has a decent amount of first class experience.
Not saying McKay doesn't potentially have a future in the Australian team, but at the moment we just need a stopgap and he ain't it.
Cousin Jed
13 Dec 2009, 17:44
In form?
Sure, he's having a pretty good season so far. 15 wickets at 26 or something isn't it?
There's a couple of others like McKay and George who've been doing better, but they're all pretty inexperienced.
eth-dog
14 Dec 2009, 07:05
Incase you had trouble reading my post, I said "Bollinger and Clark should be higher priorities, McKay would come in behind them. In terms of spinners Smith really should be pushing Hauritz for that spot too IMO."
Has Stuart Clark got a back injury atm? Must have sustained that playing WA if that's the case.
I was talking about your previous post, where you said that 2, maybe three NSW players deserved it more
Jimthegreat
14 Dec 2009, 07:47
Can't believe all the calls on here to blood McKay. If he was a NSW player there'd be a massive outcry about him being not good enough and too inexperienced, another example of baggy blue favouritism, etc.
The answer to the opening poll, despite it being a Victoran's wet dream, is neither. Glad to see that seems to be a bit of a concensus. Siddle is easily the better bowler when fit and deserves his place in the team, but he's not. Gambling on unfit players (especially pace bowlers) is always a crappy selection policy. As it is neither is Test quality at the moment.
In the current crappy situation (i.e. every pace bowler in Australia who actually deserves to be selected is either injured or already in the team) the best pick is Brett Geeves. In form and unlike McKay, actually has a decent amount of first class experience.
Not saying McKay doesn't potentially have a future in the Australian team, but at the moment we just need a stopgap and he ain't it.
Siddle can't hit the side of a barn door from point blank range right now. Barring the SA tour we continue to lose major Test Series mainly due to our bowlers inability to apply consistent pressure. No co-incidence the series Siddle and Johnson bowled very well, we won well. Bowlers win Test matches mostly.
Wally Carter
14 Dec 2009, 07:55
Siddle is getting crucified on the wickets being prepared in Australia, so I would have to go with McKay, who relies less on the track.
King Elvis
14 Dec 2009, 08:11
Siddle can't hit the side of a barn door from point blank range right now. Barring the SA tour we continue to lose major Test Series mainly due to our bowlers inability to apply consistent pressure. No co-incidence the series Siddle and Johnson bowled very well, we won well. Bowlers win Test matches mostly.
Bingo.
He's terribly out of form, why the hell is it so unacceptable to send him back to the Domestic comp until he finds his mojo again?
We aren't talking about a McGrath or Gillespie here, and we can't afford to carry and out of form (and possibly unfit) Siddle when Johnson is already a liability at times.
I'd be happy to send Siddle back to Shield cricket if there was a decent replacement for him. There isn't.
The 747
14 Dec 2009, 13:08
hehe a lot of Victorians think they are being victimised, but it probably just seems that way because there has been a dearth of talent from Victoria for some time now, and it's just so hard to justify selecting the likes of White and McGain and what have you.
Bollinger and Clark should be higher priorities, McKay would come in behind them. In terms of spinners Smith really should be pushing Hauritz for that spot too IMO.
Ahem Bollinger is already in the side, Clark has a back injury and can't play :rolleyes:
Fine by me to replace Smith with Hauritz, they are both NSW but we already know Hauritz is a massively limited bowler.
Fact is on the squad picked, it is either Siddle or McKay. Not too hard to pick one from 2 is it? Geeves is OK but he aint international class.
Ill Chicken
14 Dec 2009, 13:56
Ahem Bollinger is already in the side, Clark has a back injury and can't play :rolleyes:
Fine by me to replace Smith with Hauritz, they are both NSW but we already know Hauritz is a massively limited bowler.
Fact is on the squad picked, it is either Siddle or McKay. Not too hard to pick one from 2 is it? Geeves is OK but he aint international class.
I don't see why you would play Smith over Hauritz? Smith is going the journey in domestic cricket and his introduction at this stage would/should be limited to T20's where he has shown the most potential as a batting all-rounder.
Australia's main problem is that with Siddle and Johnson in the side, you can't apply the pressure from both ends which is why Siddle needs to go and when Hilfenhaus is fit he is in with Bollinger, Johnson, Hauritz and Watson as back up.
Whacker
14 Dec 2009, 14:12
Geeves on standby and will replace siddle if he doesnt come up...
matty p
14 Dec 2009, 14:19
McKay should play. He's the youngest and most promising of the next crop of bowlers, and he's a much better prospect than Bollinger too. Play Geeves ahead of Hauritz too.
i wouldn't care if mckay was NSW and being called up (i'm a vic) because i don't get into that weird rivalry stuff. i'm thinking of when mckay played in the ODI's recently. had some international exposure now, handy lower order bat, etc etc. if someone had the equivalent figures in some other state i could hardly complain if they were selected. like geeves, who has also had some international play. i just haven't followed geeves as much and so mckay is foremost in my mind, rather than state bias.
still siddle if he's fit, though.
Siddle just doesnt have enough strings to his bow to be anything other than a part-time, depth, test player.
It's either full or Short, there's no thought, minimal swing. Just a few short burst of pace. Gayle must love facing him, he's just a step up from a military medium dobbler.
Dont rate at all, Mackay all the way.
Wally Carter
14 Dec 2009, 15:27
Siddle just doesnt have enough strings to his bow to be anything other than a part-time, depth, test player.
There is room for a player like Siddle that runs in and bangs it on the spot at good pace for 20 overs in a day, it's just that he has got NOTHING out of the pitches this summer.
If there is any life in the WACA and Siddle gets a run, it won't surprise me in the slightest if he ends the match with the most wickets. Siddle reminds me very much of Merv Hughes with about 10% less bounce.
The problem with the Australian attack at present is it has a "horses for courses" attack.
Siddle is limited on a dead pitch, Hilfy is limited when there is no swing and Johnson is limited in a mental strength capacity.
Does someone want to change the poll... McKay or Geeves :p
Navyblues09
14 Dec 2009, 20:15
The Australian selectors are very strange to have a backup bowler, they knew that 1 player was always doubtful and now they are suddenly going to dump the backup and bring in someone different at the last minute?
Jimthegreat
14 Dec 2009, 20:54
There is room for a player like Siddle that runs in and bangs it on the spot at good pace for 20 overs in a day, it's just that he has got NOTHING out of the pitches this summer.
If there is any life in the WACA and Siddle gets a run, it won't surprise me in the slightest if he ends the match with the most wickets. Siddle reminds me very much of Merv Hughes with about 10% less bounce.
The problem with the Australian attack at present is it has a "horses for courses" attack.
Siddle is limited on a dead pitch, Hilfy is limited when there is no swing and Johnson is limited in a mental strength capacity.Problem Siddle and Johnson have is there a many "spots" they bang them on and not always the right ones. Happy to play one for their attacking/striking value as it would add a dimesion to 3 bowlers who apply pressure but in the current circumstances you ask for trouble playing them both. Between great match-winning spells there's too many match-losing spells too, which are very costly.
Jimthegreat
14 Dec 2009, 20:56
The Australian selectors are very strange to have a backup bowler, they knew that 1 player was always doubtful and now they are suddenly going to dump the backup and bring in someone different at the last minute?
It's possible the thought has crossed their minds that being in Perth they may play 4 quicks. With Watson bowling ok that's unlikely but it does cover all their options.
Cousin Jed
14 Dec 2009, 21:01
The Australian selectors are very strange to have a backup bowler, they knew that 1 player was always doubtful and now they are suddenly going to dump the backup and bring in someone different at the last minute?
McKay is backup for Siddle.
Geeves is backup if Bollinger or Johnson do their back pulling their pants up.
McKay is backup for Siddle.
Geeves is backup if Bollinger or Johnson do their back pulling their pants up.
What about if Ponting pulls a groin when Watson is doing up his pants?
King Elvis
15 Dec 2009, 11:36
Forfeit.
Value Added
15 Dec 2009, 12:13
Siddle.
Jimthegreat
15 Dec 2009, 13:13
Seems Siddle hasn't come up so McKay's looks like making his debut. Greeves will play if we take 4 quicks on the Perth pitch but that unlikely.
What about if Ponting pulls a groin when Watson is doing up his pants?
We phone up Pomersbach and hope he's at the ground.
Plugger35
15 Dec 2009, 14:07
we phone up pomersbach and hope he's not pissed off his nut, smashing up his car and doing a runner from the cops.
efa.
bombersno1
15 Dec 2009, 14:23
Siddle is out, McKay is in. geeves is teh 12th man.
Hauritz also in doubt. Steve Smith flying in as cover.
Seriously. Steve is flying in. I'm laughing my arse off at that too.
Subaru Impreza
15 Dec 2009, 15:26
West Indies will pretty happy with that news, 2 new bowlers to face at the WACA. Two debutants
Chris25
15 Dec 2009, 15:27
There'll be that possibility [playing four quicks] but I've said for a while it's always my preference to go into a Test match with a specialist spin bowler but we'll wait and see what happens."
Clearly Ponting has no say in team selection, because Smith is not even close to being a specialist spinner.
Well, big Merv is the selector on duty. We mustn't be too harsh
Jimthegreat
15 Dec 2009, 15:33
Clearly Ponting has no say in team selection, because Smith is not even close to being a specialist spinner.Just hearing on ABC Digital Grandstand during the Vic v SA broadcast that Ponting's still considering going in with an all pace attack.
Either way, on the batting side, both Geeves and Smith add some depth. As long as they can bowl!
We'll clearly go in with 4 seamers. The only way Smith will play is if Watson also goes down
Subaru Impreza
15 Dec 2009, 16:03
who would our 4 seamers be? Johnson, Bollinger, mcKay and watson?
I think the west indies to be fair would be happy to face that attack. You need a spinner at the WACA in my opinion, yes their record is not great, but again on a 4th day and 5th day wicket, they are valuable in my opinion.
THis could be an extremely interesting match if, 2 debutants for Australia play/
aussie1st
15 Dec 2009, 16:08
Johnson, Bollinger, McKay, Geeves + Watson
this could be an extremely boring draw if, 2 debutants for australia play/
fyp.
Well Siddle has officially been ruled out, which whilst a blow for him is good for Australia, Mackay is a much better bowler and will offer us more over a long period.
Having been at the WACA this morning the pitch looks as it has for the last few shield games, a road.
Subaru Impreza
15 Dec 2009, 18:21
Having been at the WACA this morning the pitch looks as it has for the last few shield games, a road.
do you think it will be more of a road than say Adelaide? Im going to the game tommorow as well and Im hoping to see Windies put up a good fight.
bombersno1
15 Dec 2009, 18:31
If it is a road the WACA curator should be shot! Bouncy pitches=good cricket!
Optimax
15 Dec 2009, 21:26
If it is a road the WACA curator should be shot! Bouncy pitches=good cricket!
roads=5 days=money