View Full Version : rumour Gold Coast want Hurley
Frothies Mcveigh
25 Dec 2009, 17:12
The Gold Coast football club have arranged to meet with Michael Hurley's management, not sure how much they are prepared to offer him as of yet.
Lance Uppercut
25 Dec 2009, 17:18
you can't post that shit without a source matey.
In any case, they'd be stupid not to try & speak to his management. He's a ****ing gun.
Different matter to getting him though ;)
What is Hurley's contract status out of interest? Obviously he had the initial 2 year contract, but I seem to recall us locking him in for longer?
Cant the GC nab a few contracted players anyway?
Lance Uppercut
25 Dec 2009, 17:42
Cant the GC nab a few contracted players anyway?
nope. No matter how much the AFL want to give them a leg-up, they can't make them above the law.
They can nab an un-contracted player from each team
fishguts
25 Dec 2009, 17:42
Source?
Ben the Gooner
25 Dec 2009, 18:27
Gold Coast can **** right off.
Also, I'll lock this thread if a source doesn't pop up soon.
Arsenal can **** off and die!
errr...
I mean what BTG said. **** the GC!! Viva Essendon!!!
Meh, they don't have a good strike rate, I aint too worried
nickh32
25 Dec 2009, 19:23
i will do what dick pratt did at carlton and have my company pay hurley extra to stay at essendon. I love the kid he will be a star. My worry is he hasnt been at the club long enough to be loyal yet and i believe he is the kind of guy who would chase money which i find sad:(
Lance Uppercut
25 Dec 2009, 19:34
and i believe he is the kind of guy who would chase money
why?
nickh32
25 Dec 2009, 19:39
why?
I find it sad because this is a guy who can fastrack us to a flag and he is a 19 year old superstar id hate if he let.
But i belive he will chase money because hes 19 more money looks good at a young age and he will get alot more oppurtunities at the gc early than he will at the bombers while they get special treatment.
But in saying all that i just sent hurley a message begging him to stay:thumbsu:
Ludwig van Bertstare
25 Dec 2009, 20:04
They can't have him.
Donakebab
25 Dec 2009, 20:23
I find it sad because this is a guy who can fastrack us to a flag and he is a 19 year old superstar id hate if he let.
But i belive he will chase money because hes 19 more money looks good at a young age and he will get alot more oppurtunities at the gc early than he will at the bombers while they get special treatment.
But in saying all that i just sent hurley a message begging him to stay:thumbsu:
Sorry but you have in no pointed out why Hurley is the type to chase money other then saying because he is 19. Unless you know him personally then leave stupid comments like that out.
I'm not worried at all. Hurley is our future, I know it, you all know it, the club knows it and he knows it. :thumbsu:
Skeeta Olly
25 Dec 2009, 20:30
Source anyone?
Frothies Mcveigh
25 Dec 2009, 20:31
I have a family friend inside the club and i caught up with him today and he said that Hurleys manager is going to have a meeting with the GoldCoast coz they are quite keen on him, but he isnt very keen on playing up there. He also is definetly going to get the number 18.
Skeeta Olly
25 Dec 2009, 20:32
I have a family friend inside the club and i caught up with him today and he said that Hurleys manager is going to have a meeting with the GoldCoast coz they are quite keen on him, but he isnt very keen on playing up there. He also is definetly going to get the number 18.
Well that's sorted.
Lance Uppercut
25 Dec 2009, 20:52
But i belive he will chase money because hes 19 more money looks good at a young age and he will get alot more oppurtunities at the gc early than he will at the bombers while they get special treatment.
no way. Essendon know what they have. We have cap room, so money will be no object.
You don't let guys like Hurley go. And, given it's been confirmed he doesn't want to, let's put this one to bed.
His manager wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't meet GC. But Hurls wants to stay in his home state, & prove himself at Essendon.
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Ludwig van Bertstare
25 Dec 2009, 20:54
If we lost Hurley it would hurt like any other. He is the most natural <20 year old player I've ever seen at the club.
Smyth94
25 Dec 2009, 21:19
If we lost Hurley it would hurt like any other. He is the most natural <20 year old player I've ever seen at the club.
It would be a disaster :(:(
bipolarbeaR
25 Dec 2009, 21:25
If we lost Hurley it would hurt like any other. He is the most natural <20 year old player I've ever seen at the club.
Scary stuff! :)
Tailypo
25 Dec 2009, 21:51
http://esreality.hexus.net/files/inlineimages/2009/71989-nooooo.jpg
As has been said, though, I imagine the club would do all that was within their power to keep him. Lucky we have that 'long term list management strategy' in place (e.g. not taking Ball, I presume) to financially deal with situations such as these.
Paws off Pears and Ryder too, please ;)
Beerfish
25 Dec 2009, 23:16
This thread sucks.
loopy_cam
26 Dec 2009, 00:20
This thread sucks.
Yep. Every club wants Hurley. But he wants the best chance of success and therefore Essendon it is.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
26 Dec 2009, 00:59
How about they **** OFF and don't touch him.greddy mother ****ers,all the top picks in the next few drafts,they are also loaded with CASH and can get 1 uncontracted player from each club what more do they want.essendon should give hurley a 5 year contract like they did with mercs all those years ago
Donakebab
26 Dec 2009, 01:13
http://esreality.hexus.net/files/inlineimages/2009/71989-nooooo.jpg
As has been said, though, I imagine the club would do all that was within their power to keep him. Lucky we have that 'long term list management strategy' in place (e.g. not taking Ball, I presume) to financially deal with situations such as these.
Paws off Pears and Ryder too, please ;)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xFlKC0veggw/So3Duz90ejI/AAAAAAAAADE/yojL_8ns5Nk/s400/buyao.jpg
Knight Ryders
26 Dec 2009, 05:59
One word - leverage.
well, they'd be stupid not to try and talk to him, and the gap from that and actually signing are huge.
Even further down the track, with a MASSIVE IF he decides to go, surely this compensation formula would mean at least a top 3 pick in the draft. Woiuld soften the blow a little.
He was a pick 5, and exceeded all expectations of such a pick in a handful of games.
dave_27
26 Dec 2009, 09:15
He is sill a kid so I cant see astronomical money being thrown at him by GC that would say be well above what Essendon would offer him in his next contract. Still only shown glimpses, there is alot to back up.
Money is always a contributing factor in anything but I dont think it is the be all end all in the case with a 19 year old at the start of his career as opposed to Ablett entering the twilight of his career having already achieved everything with Geelong.
AndyLesPaul
26 Dec 2009, 10:20
So do we have any right to sign him throughout the year before Gold Coast try to nab him?
If not, why the hell did they not give him a contract extension
Lance Uppercut
26 Dec 2009, 10:31
So do we have any right to sign him throughout the year before Gold Coast try to nab him?
of course we do
centrelink1
26 Dec 2009, 11:05
Arsenal can **** off and die!
Why do you hate Arsenal? They are Barcelona's reserves...
We are the Barcelona's reserves of the north (Arsenal of the north, but that one sounds cooler)
Mad Bomber Sean
26 Dec 2009, 11:45
Calm down fellas...he is aint going anywhere- true dat.
He is very close to his family. And at 19 years of age , as recent events have shown - he needs to be close to them. Plus we could offer close to what GC could if money were the issue.
He is a one club guy that will become part of the the 25 best players to play for Essendon Football Club.
Where is the Chilli SOURCE for this rumour any way - this friends/family rubbish is too easy to pull, give me something more concrete ?
Ben the Gooner
26 Dec 2009, 15:43
Why do you hate Arsenal? They are Barcelona's reserves...
We are the Barcelona's reserves of the north (Arsenal of the north, but that one sounds cooler)
Something to do with Hleb. :p
TeamHurley
26 Dec 2009, 18:36
Why post this sh*t without a decent source. To make things worse you went and posted exactly the same thread on the main board.
centrelink1
26 Dec 2009, 20:26
People get so angry over the quality of threads on this board. We are all happy to trust Ants inside sources (just for example),
Why not Frothies? In my short time on this forum he has never given us any reason to believe his sources are innacurate. [citation needed]
zen dice man
26 Dec 2009, 22:02
We are all equal on Big footy however some are more equal than others centrelink 1.
But really, I would ask the same off Ants, BTG, MBS, Dapper Don, etc etc...we simply want sources to coroborate the evidence. What's wrong with that???
Beerfish
26 Dec 2009, 22:43
People get so angry over the quality of threads on this board. We are all happy to trust Ants inside sources (just for example),
Why not Frothies? In my short time on this forum he has never given us any reason to believe his sources are innacurate. [citation needed]
lulz :D
Colin D'Cops
26 Dec 2009, 22:46
Bullshit! Who'd want a young, super talented KP player?
Beerfish
26 Dec 2009, 22:53
carlolton?
Oh no wait.. they only recruit midfielders. :D
centrelink1
26 Dec 2009, 22:57
We are all equal on Big footy however some are more equal than others centrelink 1.
But really, I would ask the same off Ants, BTG, MBS, Dapper Don, etc etc...we simply want sources to coroborate the evidence. What's wrong with that???
If that is true then fair enough. No double standards lol.
Towno78
31 Dec 2009, 12:50
Don't know why everyone is so up in arms about Frothies providing a concrete source. There is a 100% chance that GC want to speak to Hurley's management, and Hurley's manager would be a f***ing woeful manager not to speak to them.
Of course he's going to speak to them, just as I have no doubt Ryder's, Pears and a few others' management will too. Doesn't tell us anything about whether they will consider it. Really hope they don't.
As for the money factor, everyone's kidding themselves if they think Essendon can or will match anything that Gold Coast is capable of offering. They have an additional M$1 to spend above the rest of us, couple that with the fact that 90% of their players are going to be on standard base rate contracts, GC will have a truckload to spend on luring a few young big name players.
Plus there's no way Essendon is going to spend much above market price on any of their players as this will lead to salary cap issues downfield, and set a terrible precedent for future negotiations. We all saw how the club rightfully stood firm on equitable 2 year deals with Welsh and McPhee, a trend that I expect will continue as it should.
I very much hope we keep all of our players through this expansion (barring trades potentially), but it will only occur through the culture and imminent success of this great club.:thumbsu:
I also dont know what the big fuss is.As Towno has said I expect the Gold Coast to be in touch with the managers of several of our players over the next year and then i would be expecting the same from West Sydney.
The initial post only outlined the process and players pay managers to field all offers even if they have no major interest in changing clubs.
I dont doubt at all the GC have spoken to Hurleys manager and the rumours will persist until he signs or doesnt sign another deal.
What will also happen is Essendon will be working on a new deal for Hurley during the course of this year and hopefully he will be happy to take it.
The thing that anoys me about the whole issue is next year there will be a constant media circus over who they GC will sign and you can expect any half decent player aged under 24 who has not signed a new deal to be linked by the media to the GC at some stage.
All those shocked or questioning Frothies McVeighs post need to poke their head out into the real world for 5 minutes.....
Whatever the source is i dont care but i believe to be correct!
EFC have tried to extend Hurlyeys contract passed the end of 2010 for obvious reasons. His management have rightfully refused knowing come the end of 2010 that natural progression should should see him demand more cash.
Which also ties into the reasons why we would not sign Mcphee for 3, would not take a Ball or Smith (Kang) who wanted more than there worth, leaving salary cap room for this moment.
Call Me Cake
5 Jan 2010, 16:23
As for the money factor, everyone's kidding themselves if they think Essendon can or will match anything that Gold Coast is capable of offering. They have an additional M$1 to spend above the rest of us, couple that with the fact that 90% of their players are going to be on standard base rate contracts, GC will have a truckload to spend on luring a few young big name players.
Let's say Gold Coast DO talk to Hurley's management, do you honestly think they would offer Hurley $1M a year? or $500,000?
I'm sorry, but I think even GC wouldn't go that far. As far as I'm concerned, whatever Hurley's market value is as a 20 year old footballer who's had one year on the field Essendon will be able to match, if not sweeten it by making his current position more suitable to his lifestyle, goals and skill.
I see GC throwing heaps of cash (virtually unmatchable) to players like Franklin, Gazza and other big names down the road... not players as young as and unproven (albeit harbouring great prospects) players like Hurley.
Money aside, I feel that Hurley would much prefer staying home than heading up North. He already seems very popular here, and loves it. Not to mention his desire to learn from Fletcher when it comes to the defensive side of things. Why would he turn on a club that gave him his opportunity from Round 1? Knights was glowing when he first saw him train.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=6264
Friday, 26 December 2008
Speaking exclusively to Bomber.tv, Essendon list manager Adrian Dodoro believes Hurley has the potential to play a lot of game time in 2009, earmarking the defender as one to watch next season.
“He has settled in beautifully. You don’t want to put pressure on these guys too early but Matthew Knights came past my office the other day and was absolutely glowing because Hurley had impressed him so much on the track,” Dodoro said.
“His kicking is a feature on both the left and right side, he knows the game too. I would just describe him as a genuine footballer. There is no other way to describe him.”
Dodoro has so much faith in Hurley that he believes he could be a chance to make his AFL debut in round one against Port Adelaide at AAMI stadium.
“It depends on whether everyone is up and running but I would be surprised if he didn’t play a lot of time next season. That being said, it is only my personal opinion,” Dodoro said.http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=6264
morebeer
5 Jan 2010, 19:49
Until he is signed it will all be speculation.
GC have said they are targetting about 6 players, who I assume will take up the majority of the salary cap for the 1st few years. If they choose to target Hurley then we will not be able to compete for money. We will have to use other measures and of course pay him as well as we can.
It all depends on how Clayton,Auld and co rate him but since none of us have any idea of their intentions you can't rule it out. I guess at the same time there is no point stressing about it. Hamilton, Robson and co seem very good operators, so it is really up to them to get the job done.
Let's say Gold Coast DO talk to Hurley's management, do you honestly think they would offer Hurley $1M a year? or $500,000?
... I see GC throwing heaps of cash (virtually unmatchable) to players like Franklin, Gazza and other big names down the road... not players as young as and unproven (albeit harbouring great prospects) players like Hurley.
No, I don't think they would offer Hurley $1M a year, nor did I ever say they would. I was merely talking about the additional allowances at Gold Coast's disposal.
They will spread those allowances over their stated aim of 8 unsigned players across the 16 teams. They will probably land 1, or max 2 marquee players (Franklin, Gazza, Selwood, etc) with ~$1M offers. However they will still have ample left over to offer the remaining 6-7 players comfortably more than their clubs can match, and it is this category where I would place the likes of Ryder, Hurley, Pears and co.
No, I don't think they would offer Hurley $1M a year, nor did I ever say they would. I was merely talking about the additional allowances at Gold Coast's disposal.
They will spread those allowances over their stated aim of 8 unsigned players across the 16 teams. They will probably land 1, or max 2 marquee players (Franklin, Gazza, Selwood, etc) with ~$1M offers. However they will still have ample left over to offer the remaining 6-7 players comfortably more than their clubs can match, and it is this category where I would place the likes of Ryder, Hurley, Pears and co.
Dont forget the have to pay the 20 odd players they already they will keep from their current squad , some of whom have been offered better than the asking rate to stay with the GC rather than nominating for the draft.
I do not think money will be an issue for us as we have had the spare room in the salary cap for a couple of years. The fact that we could have easily paid Luke Ball $500k plus a year is an indication that a young player like Hurley could be offered the same.
It will be clubs like the Saints and Geelong who are on the limit of their salary cap who are in danger of losing the next level of players for good money. The problem we could run into is the third or fourth player in line after Ryder and Hurley.
mustafish
10 Jan 2010, 10:18
Calm down fellas...he is aint going anywhere- true dat.
He is very close to his family. And at 19 years of age , as recent events have shown - he needs to be close to them. Plus we could offer close to what GC could if money were the issue.
He is a one club guy that will become part of the the 25 best players to play for Essendon Football Club.
Where is the Chilli SOURCE for this rumour any way - this friends/family rubbish is too easy to pull, give me something more concrete ?
in you saying that mate il give yousome bad news and let you know one of hurleys older brothers in daniel lives up the gold coast somewhere and im pretty sure his sister bridget also is there not 100 percent about her though....
in you saying that mate il give yousome bad news and let you know one of hurleys older brothers in daniel lives up the gold coast somewhere and im pretty sure his sister bridget also is there not 100 percent about her though....
Not sure how it is bad news, not everyone has to follow their family around and he still has family in Melbourne.
If we all wanted to live in our families pockets then no one would ever venture overseas or even to another state.
Hurley will make a decision some time during the year and until then it is all speculation. No one has the inside scoop at the moment as there has been no decision made.
He could go to the Gold Coast and become the young face of the Coast or he could stay.
The one thing that Essendon have done is make sure they have room in the cap to offer the young blokes a good deal to stay around.
mustafish
11 Jan 2010, 10:28
Not sure how it is bad news, not everyone has to follow their family around and he still has family in Melbourne.
If we all wanted to live in our families pockets then no one would ever venture overseas or even to another state.
Hurley will make a decision some time during the year and until then it is all speculation. No one has the inside scoop at the moment as there has been no decision made.
He could go to the Gold Coast and become the young face of the Coast or he could stay.
The one thing that Essendon have done is make sure they have room in the cap to offer the young blokes a good deal to stay around.
mad bomber sean brought the family thing up so i just enlighted yours about it. and surley it isnt good news to hear he has a brother and sister up there.
centurion
11 Jan 2010, 10:36
mad bomber sean brought the family thing up so i just enlighted yours about it. and surley it isnt good news to hear he has a brother and sister up there.
Not bad news at all. If Hurley wants to go up there then by all means he can go. Hopefully he stays but any player that doesn't want to play for Essendon can go.
Just after some clarity. GC have an extra million to spend on an extra 10 players until 2015 (when they are in line with all others) plus, a lot of their players will be young and not command that big a salary. But, GC need to still make sure that in a couple of years time when there young kids start making reputations they will still have room to increase their pay.
Seems that they are far more likely to spend the big money on players that 26-27 who will be retiring when their young kids start asking for pay rises. They can't afford to pay above market rates for kids like Hurley and Pears who are also going to be asking for pay rises the contract after (Though they would be idiots not to talk to them just to find out the situation)
Beerfish
12 Jan 2010, 13:04
Not sure how it is bad news, not everyone has to follow their family around and he still has family in Melbourne.
If we all wanted to live in our families pockets then no one would ever venture overseas or even to another state.
Exactly. :thumbsu:
The one thing that Essendon have done is make sure they have room in the cap to offer the young blokes a good deal to stay around.
When you think about it, we're really in a good position as far as where the club is at in terms of it's lifecycle. We've had a few big stars retire making room in the cap and we've drafted really well (I reckon) over the last couple of years while the drafting was good.
Hopefully the years of pain we've gone through since 2002 will soon be a distant memory.
Call Me Cake
12 Jan 2010, 16:51
Hopefully the years of pain we've gone through since 2002 will soon be a distant memory.
Man I can't wait.
Success feels better when you've worked hard for it.
Beerfish
12 Jan 2010, 17:00
Man I can't wait.
Success feels better when you've worked hard for it.
Not that I've done much personally.. except sob quietly into my beer on the odd occasion. :D
Call Me Cake
12 Jan 2010, 17:07
Not that I've done much personally.. except sob quietly into my beer on the odd occasion. :D
Haha, perhaps I should rephrase what I said...
"Success feels better when you've sobbed hard for it."
:D
Tailypo
13 Jan 2010, 09:47
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88635/default.aspx
GC to target key defenders for 2011
GOLD Coast could target key defenders from opposition clubs when it comes to settling its list for the 2011 season.
Football manager Marcus Ashcroft said the current list would be enriched by the addition of some taller key backline players, and the deficiencies could be filled by players whose AFL contracts were approaching an end in 2010.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88635/default.aspx
Hurley's contract finishes at the end of 2010...
Knights has enough of a mancrush on Hurley to pull through this, surely.
I think if we lost pears it would be just as shattering! If we are likely to lose a key defender it would probably be someone like hooker or something.. Hopefully none but anyway i dont think Essendon would let any of our young guys go cheaply! When is Pears contracted until?
Tailypo
13 Jan 2010, 10:12
Pears' contract finishes at the end 2011. Same with Hooker.
keepzitreal
13 Jan 2010, 10:21
Haha, perhaps I should rephrase what I said...
"Success feels better when you've sobbed hard for it."
:D
Gold... I feel your pain bloke.. where do you guys reckon it was at its worst? Sure, it could have been the constant pumpings where opposition key forwards destroyed us.. however I recall a time, I believe in 05.. where we'd be in games only to get blown away in last quarters.. consistently... they were tough times..
Pears' contract finishes at the end 2011. Same with Hooker.
Cheers :thumbsu: Still leaves the window open for GWS.. this is such bullshit i wish the fat controller would piss off with all these concession handouts!
Beerfish
13 Jan 2010, 18:15
Gold... I feel your pain bloke.. where do you guys reckon it was at its worst? Sure, it could have been the constant pumpings where opposition key forwards destroyed us.. however I recall a time, I believe in 05.. where we'd be in games only to get blown away in last quarters.. consistently... they were tough times..
The 143 odd point drubbing by Adelaide a year or two ago was pretty painful from memory. Forced myself to watch every minute of it.
Agony.
Obviously there is every chance that Hurley could go but i would be surprised. Given what i have read about him in scouting reports that contained character assements i could really not see him going after being handed the 18 jumper from Lloyd or after being around for 2 years.
You can never say never but it would not match what people have said about his character.