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Brown out (http://lions.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=90012)
I suppose this means Morro will get another chance. If Leppa doesn't come up then we might be a bit stretched against a mobile forward line. I expect Brennan will get a job down back if Lynchy plays.
Fracture sidelines Brown
lions.com.au
12:12:56 PM Tue 6 May, 2003
Barnstorming forward Jonathan Brown has a slight fracture in his cheekbone and will miss the Brisbane Lions’ clash with Sydney at the SCG on the weekend.
However, the Lions medical staff hold out some hope that the hard-as-nails big man will be available for the blockbuster clash with Adelaide at the Gabba on May 17.
Tests this morning confirmed a hairline fracture of the small sinus bone.
Brown injured his face during a head clash with teammate Jamie Charman at Geelong on Sunday. The rugged Brown never contemplated leaving the ground, but was unable to eat in the 24 hours following the game.
His height and strength will be sorely missed against the light Sydney defence at the SCG on Sunday.
Despite his battles with a hip problem and now the sore face, Brown has been a tower of strength at centre-half-forward over the opening six weeks of the season.
Like Brown, All-Australian centre-half-back Justin Leppitsch has maintained his high standards, despite an ongoing battle with groin soreness, and will be hoping for better luck with him than the big key forward.
Leppitsch left the ground midway through the last term in the Round 5 win over the Bulldogs with the problem, and again was forced from the ground midway through the third quarter at Geelong.
"There is no difference to last week, but I know what the week entails for me," Leppitsch told The Courier-Mail’s Darren Cartwright yesterday.
"I was always worried about the endurance of the injury more than the injury itself and how long it would last into the game. You don't want to be playing three quarters of a game every week.
"It's no worse, but it's definitely no better. Its muscle tightness and halftime really brought it on because you cool down."
Leppitsch told Cartwright he would take a more cautious approach to this weekend's clash and he may have to undergo a more searching test before making himself available.
"You don't train for 120 minutes during the week, so you can't fully test it," he said.
Defender Chris Scott will have more work on his hamstring during the week, but is confident of playing against the Swans.
The other positives for the Lions are the likely availability of ace forward Alastair Lynch and ruckman Beau McDonald.
Lynch missed last week’s win as a precaution against the fatigue that affected him for the previous month.
He slaughtered the undersized Swans in a pre-season Wizard Cup match in Sydney and his bulk in the goalsquare would be a nightmare for the home side to match up on again.
Despite excellent efforts by youngsters Jamie Charman and Dylan McLaren against Geelong, McDonald will come straight back if his sore shoulder is fully healed.
Charman and McLaren did a superb tag-team job on Cats skipper Steven King, particularly with their work around the ground.
But at 203cm, McDonald would have a substantial height advantage at the bounces, particularly over the mobile and in-form Adam Goodes.
Fellow premiership ruckman Clark Keating remains 1-2 weeks away from a return in the reserves with foot problems.
Originally posted by NathanD
[B]Brown out (http://lions.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=90012)
I suppose this means Morro will get another chance. If Leppa doesn't come up then we might be a bit stretched against a mobile forward line. I expect Brennan will get a job down back if Lynchy plays.
Isn't morro up infront of the AFLQ Tribunal this week? If so he mightn't be available!
Beausgirl43
6 May 2003, 15:31
Originally posted by NathanD
I suppose this means Morro will get another chance. Morro was reported in the ressies game on Saturday and I think he will get a few weeks suspension. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen. :(
cheers ... Kaz
If Morro is suspended, and Leppa doesn't come up any tips for CHF and CHB?
Might be an opportunity for Richard Hadley?
Beausgirl43
6 May 2003, 16:01
Originally posted by NathanD
If Morro is suspended, and Leppa doesn't come up any tips for CHF and CHB?
Might be an opportunity for Richard Hadley? Richie was diagnosed late last week with stress fractures of the tibia (shin). Missed the Reserves game on Saturday and will be sidelined for a further 3-4 weeks. :(
cheers ... Kaz
A "Brown out" is bad enough, lets hope we don't have to suffer from a "Black out"
Beausgirl43
6 May 2003, 16:28
Originally posted by Crimso
A "Brown out" is bad enough, lets hope we don't have to suffer from a "Black out" We might need some "white out" for all the changes on the team list this week. :p
ROTFLMAO :p :p :p :p
Luke Weller. Your time has come.
Oh no don't tell me, he tripped over Danni's new cat at training and will be out for the season with a knee reconstruction.
SpecialBruce
6 May 2003, 17:08
Hmmm, things are starting to get interesting.
Luke Weller can't play - no one is out long enough for him to be promoted.
There are plenty of options.
Just say Morro is suspended and Leppitsch doesn't pull up, then things will look very interesting.
Daniel Bradshaw can play CHF. It will suit him.
IN: Lynch, McDonald, Shattock or Merrett
OUT: Brown, Leppitsch, McLaren
On the assumption Leppitsch won't play and Morro is suspended.
I think it would be a bad move to bring Merrett in at this stage. From what I've heard, he's still very raw.
Sydney are not an overly tall side, and we should be right, even if we are missing Leppitsch and Brown.
With that said, hopefully Lynch will be available, as he really provides a tough match up for the Swans.
Apart from that, we'll still have Michael, Brennan, (and I mean the two players, not the 'one' administrator ;)), White, Bradshaw, and at least two rucks, along with Notting, Pike and hopefully C.Scott to take the key positions.
For CHF this week,we need a moblile, high marking player, with experience in the forward line, to expose the Swans deficiencies in defence.
Tim Notting, come on down.
Originally posted by Stocka
Sydney are not an overly tall side, and we should be right, even if we are missing Leppitsch and Brown.
I wouldn't exactly call us overly short ..... :confused:
Players that played last week ...
Jason Ball 200cm
James Meiklejohn 197cm
Adam Goodes 194cm
Barry Hall 194cm
Jason Saddington 194cm
Andrew Schuable 192cm
Tadhg Kennelly 191cm
Mark Powell 190cm
Rowan Warfe 189cm
Craig Bolton 189cm
Michael O'Loughlin 188cm
What about Pratt ? He looked OK in the pre season stuff. And Pikey filled that role last year to great effect.
Morrison should get first bite if available.
In some ways I'd rather have them at the SCG than at Homebush. The lack of space at the SCG will help with a few tall players out.
Originally posted by TheMase
I wouldn't exactly call us overly short ..... :confused:
Players that played last week ...
Jason Ball 200cm
James Meiklejohn 197cm
Adam Goodes 194cm
Barry Hall 194cm
Jason Saddington 194cm
Andrew Schuable 192cm
Mark Powell 190cm
How many of those would you call quality talls though, in the mould of the best-practice in the league?
Goodes and Hall are quality, albeit somewhat inconsistent at times. Ball and Schauble are serviceable. Powell and Meiklejohn I have not seen, and lack experience despite what talent they may have.
Saddington is a highly talented player, and must be loving it under P.Roos, as I envisage them as similar styled players. However, I wouldn't really class Saddington as a physical match for the bigger key-positional opponents.
Originally posted by TheMase
Tadhg Kennelly 191cm
Rowan Warfe 189cm
Craig Bolton 189cm
Michael O'Loughlin 188cm
Clutching at straws if you are claiming those as genuine talls. I'd rate them more as midfielders/utilities who can play tall if needed in a pinch. We'd match those guys with the likes of B.Scott, T.Notting, N.Lappin, C.Scott, M.Pike, and A.Shattock.
roostersgal4eva
6 May 2003, 20:34
Originally posted by NathanD
The other positives for the Lions are the likely availability of ace forward Alastair Lynch and ruckman Beau McDonald.
Lynch missed last week’s win as a precaution against the fatigue that affected him for the previous month.
YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY! I hope he plays *crosses fingers*- i was starting to get worried myself. Swans got no-one to match him up on IMHO
as i alway say - "It may land the first punch but Lynchy always wins the round" :p
ROFLMAO Beausgirl & Crimso btw :p
In some ways I'd rather have them at the SCG than at Homebush. The lack of space at the SCG will help with a few tall players out.
Exactly. A gun CHF is not required at the SCG as the ball is kicked over their heads on most occasions.
cjwalkley
7 May 2003, 00:51
We can promote Weller at any stage as we are running a short list, so don't require an injury. It is all a matter of salary cap issues!
I hate to sing an old tune (not really) but it would probably seem a good time to see if Caracella can fit into the Lions equation. Lets face it, he was not drafted to boost the Reserves chance of a Premiership.
blackers
7 May 2003, 12:07
Yeah, I wouldn't panic too much. Lynchy will be back so if we have a few injuries perhaps we can't have 3 premiership players as emergencies. We'll may have to survive with an emergency list bereft of premiership medallions. Footy is hell.:D
MSB ROYS
7 May 2003, 19:36
Morro - NOT GUILTY!
keatings_gal
7 May 2003, 22:43
yeah MSB i was just gonna say that.....
good onya SB..... why would u even think of saying Merrett? just coz of the name?????? u musnt know much about him......
yeah hopefully morro gets a run & yeah its bad luck for Richie (a bit like poor hammo who would get injured whenever there may have been a spot for him)
i wouldnt mind grammy or boofa ( grammy didnt do the full session today) get their 1st run but i would think if not morro it would have to be Bushie or shatts... they along with Morro, troy & blake have been tearing them apart......
SpecialBruce
7 May 2003, 23:05
Originally posted by keatings_gal
(a it like poor hammo who would get injured whenever there may have been a spot for him)
He was spotted in Wangaratta today.
Originally posted by keatings_gal
good onya SB..... why would u even think of saying Merrett? just coz of the name?????? u musnt know much about him......
No! Because he would be a better option than that hack Morrison!
koulagirl22
8 May 2003, 00:11
Originally posted by Crimso
A "Brown out" is bad enough, lets hope we don't have to suffer from a "Black out"
"Power" failures of any kind are bad.
koulagirl22
8 May 2003, 00:21
Originally posted by keatings_gal
yeah MSB i was just gonna say that.....
good onya SB..... why would u even think of saying Merrett? just coz of the name?????? u musnt know much about him......
I think he meant that if Morrison didn't play Merrett, who plays a similar role, is a possible second option.
yeah hopefully morro gets a run & yeah its bad luck for Richie (a bit like poor hammo who would get injured whenever there may have been a spot for him)
i wouldnt mind grammy or boofa ( grammy didnt do the full session today) get their 1st run but i would think if not morro it would have to be Bushie or shatts... they along with Morro, troy & blake have been tearing them apart......
I'd like to see Jason Gram get a run but I doubt it if he's not training full sessions.
SpecialBruce
8 May 2003, 15:16
Originally posted by Beausgirl43
A hack is he? Your word not mine. Well all I can say is he's a hack that wears a Brisbane Lions jumper everytime he runs out on a footy field every weekend. Some blokes who play footy don't ever get the chance to that in their life time. Think about that. :confused: :o
cheers ... Kaz
Yeah, I have thought about that and well Morrison only stayed on the list due to the fact that he is a back-up for Lynch and Brown. He can't perform at senior level consistently, but he can perform at reserves level consistently. Think about that one.
tapestry
8 May 2003, 15:47
A truer word was never said Special Bruce. Hack just about sums him up perfectly.He will not make the transition from Queensland reserves to AFL. I doubt he would make it to VFL really.
Just because he is on the list doesn't mean he will make it at the top level.
Mr Ripper
8 May 2003, 19:57
Perhaps the folk bagging Morro should actually go and watch him play before dishing out the critique.
He is a much better and more complete player this year.
I don't see how anyone can write him off as a senior candidate when he's had barely enough ground time to raise a sweat in any of his senior appearances. Incidentally, he polled B&F votes in two of his three senior games last year. I'm certain he'll be judged favourably again on his performance against the Roos.
Admittedly I'm going by his reserves form, but I can reliably inform Tapestry and SB that Morro has gone from being just a solid old battler to a matchwinner. His disposal skills have improved out of sight and his vision and decision making have also improved markedly.
It's fair enough to have an opinion on a player, but what you guys have written is unlearned tripe. :mad:
SpecialBruce
8 May 2003, 20:26
Originally posted by Mr Ripper
Perhaps the folk bagging Morro should actually go and watch him play before dishing out the critique.
Will you pay for my airfare? He won't come down to Melbourne and play. Maybe next year onwards, but not this year.
Originally posted by Mr Ripper
He is a much better and more complete player this year.
I don't see how anyone can write him off as a senior candidate when he's had barely enough ground time to raise a sweat in any of his senior appearances. Incidentally, he polled B&F votes in two of his three senior games last year. I'm certain he'll be judged favourably again on his performance against the Roos.
IMO, his performance against the Roos was shocking. I was at the game and he didn't play that great when he had time on the ground.
For example Robert Copeland barely had enough time in his first game in 2001 and stayed in the squad. Morrison has played a handfull of games from 2000 to 2003.
Originally posted by Mr Ripper
Admittedly I'm going by his reserves form, but I can reliably inform Tapestry and SB that Morro has gone from being just a solid old battler to a matchwinner. His disposal skills have improved out of sight and his vision and decision making have also improved markedly.
That may be the case but he is only a state level player. He can't perform at AFL level when he's given the time. He is not up to AFL standards.
Originally posted by Mr Ripper
It's fair enough to have an opinion on a player, but what you guys have written is unlearned tripe. :mad:
Unlearned tripe? It's fact. As much as you want the bloke to play at AFL level, he is not up to it.
For example, Brennan came into the squad and he played brilliantly to stay in the team when given the time.
McGrath came into the squad. Basically for Caracella. The little time he was given, he played well and therefore stayed in the team. There are other players fighting for his spot aswell.
Shattock in 2002 came into the squad, he stayed in the squad because he played good and kept his spot in the team.
Then we go back to Robert Copeland, the fairy tale. Being placed on the rookie list due to Michael Martin's second OP operation, he when given time played well to keep a place in the squad. He played a limited first game, played well when he was on.
In each of these cases, there were other players fighting for their place in the team.
Morrison hasn't shown anything good in the game time he has played. Those who say he hasn't had a fair go should look at the history and facts first. He is not up to AFL standard.
Mr Ripper
8 May 2003, 22:51
You're talking crazy talk, SB. His game against the Roos was sound. Give him a decent go and he'll do orright.
That was your worst post since you insisted we draft Libba. :p
SpecialBruce
8 May 2003, 23:44
Originally posted by Mr Ripper
You're talking crazy talk, SB. His game against the Roos was sound. Give him a decent go and he'll do orright.
That was your worst post since you insisted we draft Libba. :p
I'm correct in my statements.
Worst post since I insisted we draft Libba? Hey, Libba would have done alright for us. We could have got 2 more years out of him. What about me wanting Mercuri? Thought that would get in there. I still believe we should have got Mercuri for Caracella though.
tapestry
9 May 2003, 08:27
Stop being so melodramatic Ripper.I happen to agree with Special Bruce that Morrison is not up to the required level of AFL footyfor the Lions.Maybe he will get a go at the Doggies or some other team next year.
I have seen him live a few times over the last few years in the seniors and reserves.So my opinion is just that my opinion.So please don't bag me for that.
Caracella is a hack as well.He is soft.Mecuri would have been a better choice, but didn't he refuse to be traded.
Originally posted by tapestry
Caracella is a hack as well.He is soft.Mecuri would have been a better choice, but didn't he refuse to be traded.
Caracella is no softer than Mercuri - they are both finishers, not hard-ball players. Likewise, Mercuri is a few years older than Caracella, and has struggled with injury since '99.
There is also the impression that Mercuri thinks the sun shines out his his behind - not something that I can imagine would assimilate well with the attitudes in our team.
Personally, I would much rather have kept Cupido, despite the impression that some people have about his perceived "arrogance".
koulagirl22
9 May 2003, 13:30
Originally posted by Stocka
Caracella is no softer than Mercuri - they are both finishers, not hard-ball players. Likewise, Mercuri is a few years older than Caracella, and has struggled with injury since '99.
There is also the impression that Mercuri thinks the sun shines out his his behind - not something that I can imagine would assimilate well with the attitudes in our team.
Personally, I would much rather have kept Cupido, despite the impression that some people have about his perceived "arrogance".
I wondered a bit about the wisdom of letting Cupido go as well. I thought he was doing well with the Lions?
MSB ROYS
9 May 2003, 15:48
Originally posted by koulagirl22
I wondered a bit about the wisdom of letting Cupido go as well. I thought he was doing well with the Lions?
He wanted to go as well which makes a difference, whether this year or the next.
Mr Ripper
11 May 2003, 10:21
Originally posted by tapestry
Stop being so melodramatic Ripper.I happen to agree with Special Bruce that Morrison is not up to the required level of AFL footyfor the Lions.Maybe he will get a go at the Doggies or some other team next year.
I have seen him live a few times over the last few years in the seniors and reserves.So my opinion is just that my opinion.So please don't bag me for that.But you've seen bugger all of him this year. How can you possibly write him off on his form of last year, or the year before that when he's young and improving (remarkably this season) all the time? If people like you were on selection committees then blokes like Michael Tuck and Gary O'Donnell would never have had league careers. :o
Originally posted by tapestry
Caracella is a hack as well.He is soft.Mecuri would have been a better choice, but didn't he refuse to be traded. Mecuri (sic) is older than Caracella, more injury prone and has a questionable attitude...and is "soft".
I think Blake is getting the message, his commitment in the reserves since that first outing has been top notch.