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The Donners
28 Feb 2010, 07:54
He has failed to get anywhere near a reasonable fitness base in 4-5 years at the club. On top of this he has a turning circle of a mac truck and lacks versatility and thus couldn't possibly play anywhere but full forward.
He has a great mark and a pretty good kick but at what stage do you cut your losses? Another interrupted pre-season in what should've been his make or break year, another excuse to extend his contract in my opinion.
go team
28 Feb 2010, 08:36
Reports from the reserves praccy match suggests he played out at CHF. He's also played in defence for Bendigo. As you suggested he's a great mark, a good kick, and quick off the mark. Has the tools to make an impact - hopefully will put it all together this year.
Do we have any indication the club will use his interrupted pre season this year as an excuse? We certainly won't be cutting our losses before the end of 2010. I'd imagine he'd be in a fair bit of trouble, if he failed to have more of an impact by then.
kelvin_sheedy
28 Feb 2010, 09:57
A certain poster, initials KS, spent countless threads arguing with our part time recruiter and mod who no longer posts here about Neagle condition.
KS said he was fat and a disgrace to be in the condition he was after a few years at AFL level.
Our ex mod ant666 said he was afl fit and had no puppy fat. It's quite funny how ant666 has started singing a different tune and questions Neagle commitment to be an AFL player.
Where art thou ant666?
bipolarbeaR
28 Feb 2010, 10:05
You know where he is mate.
I now think that Neagle will make it :)
Thanks Kelvin.
bombermick
28 Feb 2010, 10:14
He kicked 19 last year. If he can up that to 30 in 2010, surely that must be a pass mark?
A certain poster, initials KS, spent countless threads arguing with our part time recruiter and mod who no longer posts here about Neagle condition.
KS said he was fat and a disgrace to be in the condition he was after a few years at AFL level.
Our ex mod ant666 said he was afl fit and had no puppy fat. It's quite funny how ant666 has started singing a different tune and questions Neagle commitment to be an AFL player.
Where art thou ant666?
KissStephanie is the dumbest **** on these forums.
OzBomber
28 Feb 2010, 10:36
Wasn't he meant to be doing heaps of running this pre-season to get himself more fit? What happened to that?
stay true
28 Feb 2010, 12:42
Wasn't he meant to be doing heaps of running this pre-season to get himself more fit? What happened to that?
Groin surgery maybe.
I've got faith in Neagle. If he manages a full season at last years scoring average he kicks almost 40.
well he will have michael still & jake carlisle, breathing down his neck next year!! or the 3 ruck combo trialled against the demons is a chance to work with gumby at CHF......Daniher also kicking goals!!!
Jonesy1987
28 Feb 2010, 14:45
After watching him in the practice game the other day, I have much faith in him this season. As fit as I've seen him, and with a month until the proper season starts, he should be in ripper shape by then.
The Donners
28 Feb 2010, 15:15
Reports from the reserves praccy match suggests he played out at CHF. He's also played in defence for Bendigo. As you suggested he's a great mark, a good kick, and quick off the mark. Has the tools to make an impact - hopefully will put it all together this year.
Do we have any indication the club will use his interrupted pre season this year as an excuse? We certainly won't be cutting our losses before the end of 2010. I'd imagine he'd be in a fair bit of trouble, if he failed to have more of an impact by then.
Sorry, I won't be taking anything out of a reserves practice much other than they made it through without an injury - though a few heart pulpitations with Hurley.
Oh Tayteridge
28 Feb 2010, 15:27
Sorry, I won't be taking anything out of a reserves practice much other than they made it through without an injury - though a few heart pulpitations with Hurley.
Surely you can appreciate the promise and positives that have emerged from that game nevertheless.
From reports, his tackling, work rate and general fitness- areas which he has been considerably lacking in the past- were impressive, and for me such endeavour permeates throughout the various standards of football to a far greater extent than, say, kicking a bag of 10 on a poor opponent.
No doubt that Neagle's merit as an AFL footballer can be, at times, questioned, but it seems unusual to be doing so after one of his most key performances in a long time.
After watching him in the practice game the other day, I have much faith in him this season. As fit as I've seen him, and with a month until the proper season starts, he should be in ripper shape by then.
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bipolarbeaR
28 Feb 2010, 21:35
Yeah, I miss Ant!
I am Neagles biggest doubter, and I think he will be MASSIVELY improve this year.
Jobe needs to get onto him, Jobe was the same size as him, look at him now, one of the fittest in the AFL.
mark1881
1 Mar 2010, 07:05
IMO Neagles tackling, second efforts and running late last year were looking really positive, then he had the groin injury. I refuse to pass judgement on his ability to play AFL until I see him fully fit, having said that if he never gets fit he'll be in the "what could have been" basket
Slattery_20
1 Mar 2010, 08:40
Good that they've made him work hard just to get a crack in a praccie match. Long may the lap-running continue IMHO. I think now the Sheedy influence is starting to be erased, all players are starting to realise hard work is the go.
smcateer
2 Mar 2010, 04:05
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/10/pre-bendigo-v-coburg21.jpg
From the EFC website (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/fun_n_games/photos.asp?sp=3&vs=&vp=&vr=100&vy=&va=).
He's looking like he's trimmed down a bit.
My first thought was: "That's not Neagle, it's Gumby, they've mislabelled the photo." Great hope after seeing these photos.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/10/pre-bendigo-v-coburg21.jpg
From the EFC website (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/fun_n_games/photos.asp?sp=3&vs=&vp=&vr=100&vy=&va=).
He's looking like he's trimmed down a bit.
My first thought was: "That's not Neagle, it's Gumby, they've mislabelled the photo." Great hope after seeing these photos.
Neagle? Where?
Frothies Mcveigh
2 Mar 2010, 06:17
Even though he has doubts over his fitness several times last year he followed his opponent up the ground and ran back. He just needs to put in that kind of effort every week. As already said he is a great mark and kick. Once hes fit I think he will make a definete impact.
Neagle? Shit I had to look hard. Looks like Stanton to me.
TeamHurley
2 Mar 2010, 06:42
Where did Ant555 go?
Where did Ant555 go?Quit livin' in the past man; you're livin' in the past.
Have always felt he'd make it, and it isn't simply blind faith.
He has everything needed to be a 60+ goal Full Forward; he only needs to improve his endurance to the point where he can run out an entire game, for an entire season.
He's kicked 3 goals in effectively a half of football against both Geelong and St Kilda; imagine what he could do against a Carlton playing 100% of the game at full intensity.
There is not much point talking about his capabilities. Everyone knows why Neagle has been such a source of frustration (much of it beyond his control - or so it seems).
Endeavour is the only thing I care about until round 11.
After round 11 he will need a bag or two (as in 5 or 6) if he is playing full forward and has 8 - 10 games under his belt.
Neagle? Shit I had to look hard. Looks like Stanton to me.
Definitely Neagle.
centurion
2 Mar 2010, 12:46
Have always felt he'd make it, and it isn't simply blind faith.
He has everything needed to be a 60+ goal Full Forward; he only needs to improve his endurance to the point where he can run out an entire game, for an entire season.
He's kicked 3 goals in effectively a half of football against both Geelong and St Kilda; imagine what he could do against a Carlton playing 100% of the game at full intensity.
Neagle definitely has all the talent in the world. Just hope he puts the other important bits to his game together.
Lance Uppercut
2 Mar 2010, 13:01
A certain poster, initials KS, spent countless threads arguing with our part time recruiter and mod who no longer posts here about Neagle condition.
KS said he was fat and a disgrace to be in the condition he was after a few years at AFL level.
that damn KissStephanie needs to stay the hell of our board! :mad:
Frothies Mcveigh
2 Mar 2010, 14:14
Just needs to build up his cardio, if he can stay uninjured and run out a whole game he could be one of or THE best forward in the comp.
Lance Uppercut
2 Mar 2010, 16:32
did anyone else love Goldeneye when it came out on the N64 was it?
I just can't help but think about the awesome pistol in it; a big, powerful handgun that could blow a hole through armour.
The Desert Eagle, or Deagle.
That's my boy :cool:
stay true
2 Mar 2010, 17:40
did anyone else love Goldeneye when it came out on the N64 was it?
I just can't help but think about the awesome pistol in it; a big, powerful handgun that could blow a hole through armour.
The Desert Eagle, or Deagle.
That's my boy
I think you're referring to the Cougar Magnum. :p
Lance Uppercut
2 Mar 2010, 17:42
I think you're referring to the Cougar Magnum. :p
I may have the wrong game, I don't have the wrong gun :p
stay true
2 Mar 2010, 17:51
I may have the wrong game, I don't have the wrong gun :p
Hehe yeah I know what you mean.
B-Bomber
2 Mar 2010, 19:39
I may have the wrong game, I don't have the wrong gun :p
Haha, Neagles new nickname is now..
Magnum.
The game you were referring to with the Deagle was Counter Strike.
Hurley is the RCP90, Dempsey the Silenced PP7.
I smell a new thread coming on.
I may have the wrong game, I don't have the wrong gun :p
Desert Eagle .50 is out of the movie Snatch
mark1881
3 Mar 2010, 07:35
Went down to Windy Hill for a kick last night and saw Neagle walking out. He looks in great knick. Much much thiner, looks even thiner than in the photo on page 2. Great to see.
Went down to Windy Hill for a kick last night and saw Neagle walking out. He looks in great knick. Much much thiner, looks even thiner than in the photo on page 2. Great to see.
four n twenty pie + fish hook + very long piece of string + hiding behind a tree = a lot of fun
:thumbsu:
for anyone who hasnt seen it
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mark1881
3 Mar 2010, 09:49
four n twenty pie + fish hook + very long piece of string + hiding behind a tree = a lot of fun
:thumbsu:
Lol...gotta give him credit though, he's lost the weight, finally and better late than never. Look what happened to Watson when he dropped the kilos, his Captain for **** sakes. If you told me 3-4 years ago that Watson would be skipper in 2010 I would have told you to get back on your meds.
Yeah I guess Watson is an excellent example of turning it around. Not sure if he's done enough to earn selection come Round 1 though.
mark1881
3 Mar 2010, 11:18
yep, i agree, he's done the hard yards in terms of getting his body right but that is really only one piece of teh puzzle, now he needs to play consistent footy and KICK GOALS to be considered for the seniors. I have an incling he'll play this weekend. Give the gumbleton/neagle combo a tryout
UpTheGuts
3 Mar 2010, 12:01
Surely he needs a barely reasonable preseason to be vaguely competitive?
Jonesy1987
3 Mar 2010, 14:07
Surely he needs a barely reasonable preseason to be vaguely competitive?
Not really he hasn't ever had a full preseason and averages 2 goals a game. Often playing second or third string to Lloyd and Lucas.
Pevers-Legend
3 Mar 2010, 14:41
Surely he needs a barely reasonable preseason to be vaguely competitive?
And what makes you think he isn't going to have that?
he played ok in his first hitout from all reports.
More to the point - why do you care?
Ben the Gooner
5 Mar 2010, 19:22
Neagle? Where?
Found him!
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc285/bengooner4/pre-bendigo-v-coburg21.jpg
gO_bOmBeRz
5 Mar 2010, 20:19
Looking in much better shape.
Just a quick question what do you guys expect from him this year ?
(what i expect)
*Plays 15+
*Kicks 40 goals+ (too much to ask maybe)
*And improves on his endurance.
So is it just me ... or does that photo actually look like Stanton?
Sir James
6 Mar 2010, 08:10
Went down to Windy Hill for a kick last night and saw Neagle walking out. He looks in great knick. Much much thiner, looks even thiner than in the photo on page 2. Great to see.
Yeah that picture makes him look about "9 pounds" heavier.:)
Sir James
6 Mar 2010, 08:14
So is it just me ... or does that photo actually look like Stanton?
If i look at my comp from the next room....yes it does look like stanton:)
Beerfish
6 Mar 2010, 12:07
He has failed to get anywhere near a reasonable fitness base in 4-5 years at the club. On top of this he has a turning circle of a mac truck and lacks versatility and thus couldn't possibly play anywhere but full forward.
He has a great mark and a pretty good kick but at what stage do you cut your losses? Another interrupted pre-season in what should've been his make or break year, another excuse to extend his contract in my opinion.
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Call Me Cake
6 Mar 2010, 19:24
Kicked 2 tonight. :thumbsu:
Heard he put up good 2nd efforts throughout the whole game.
stay true
6 Mar 2010, 19:27
2 of the teams 9 goals is pretty decent.
Call Me Cake
6 Mar 2010, 19:29
2 of the teams 9 goals is pretty decent.
Considering we couldn't have fielded a worse side than the one we fielded tonight, I'll take it as note-worthy.
With that said, I still value his fitness more-so than the goals. Hopefully it provides a tonic for him to improve, good to know he's trying to earn his selection.
I was at the game last night. First half looked pretty dysfunctional and really low intensity(the entire team). However in the second half we started to look quite good. Neagle presented very well and provided a mobile option. Laycock looked good as well as a lead up forward. Definitely the second half gave a glimpse of what we can build on for the year.
Ben the Gooner
8 Mar 2010, 19:55
I was at the game last night. First half looked pretty dysfunctional and really low intensity(the entire team). However in the second half we started to look quite good. Neagle presented very well and provided a mobile option. Laycock looked good as well as a lead up forward. Definitely the second half gave a glimpse of what we can build on for the year.
How did the forward line set up? I assume Neagle was in the square, but where were Gumby and Laycock?
TheDon35
9 Mar 2010, 03:15
I Don't really see what all the fuss is about.
He's turned 22 this year so is still very young as a key forwards go.
He's had a terrible run with injuries so has struggled to have a sustained crack at it.
He's had 2 guys ahead of him that would have kept most 19 - 20 year olds out of a spot regardless of their form.
He's shown that when he gets a good run at it he can be an extremely good forward target.
His goal kicking is far better than just good. Is extremely good. In fact i'd have him in the top handful of FF's that i'd like kicking for me.
Has a brilliant set up hands.
He's also been playing in a pretty ordinary team. If he can start to get some consistent supply, I wouldn't be suprised if he has a couple of 7 goal plus games this year.
Ask Lloyd about how the ball came down over his last 3 or 4 years and he'd shake his head.
Neagle looked best when inside the 50. If he kicked straight then his stats would have been fantastic. Kicked a great goal from free play with kennelly right on his hammer - snap from the pocket.
Laycock played out of the square when Neagle was having a rest. He too looked really good - took some goods marks and showed that we have options up forward.
Gumbleton played the high forward roll and provided ok mobility. Took quite a few marks.
Zarharkis played the small forward and kicked some nice goals in the last quarter. Similar to the monfries rule.
Considering I would think only Neagle would be selected as a starting forward with Gumbleton a possibility we really saw some options that could be quite damaging. Also the Swans defence was close to full strength. Overall very positive and I think Neagle is looking good for a improvement this year.
Slattery_20
9 Mar 2010, 06:49
How hard did he work? Tackling, pressure, 2nd efforts, long leads???
Talent is not, and never will be, the issue with Neagle.
The goal he kicked on kennelly was all about second efforts. The ball went to ground and the effort he made turned it from a 50/50 into a great goal.
I guess long leads could be worked on however not everyone is Reiwoldt. Very few players can lead up the ground over 60 meters then run back into the 50 for multiple leads. The leads he made were great for a full-forward and also a mobile option across the 50m arc.
Personally I don't think he is going to be a Reiwoldt or Franklin as they are genuine CHF. For me if he kicks goals then that is his job, the days of the FF are far from gone. I am sure with reasonable service we can expect a 30+ goal season. Which for me is a step in the correct direction. At his age I can only see positives.
Lance Uppercut
9 Mar 2010, 11:03
this guy could have a Barry Hall like presence on a footy field one day, he is worth persisting with
this guy could have a Barry Hall like presence on a footy field one day, he is worth persisting with
hes a better kick for goal though!! my top 3 best goal kickers ive seen are Lloyd (maybe indoors helped him, but crikeys 99-01 they shouldnt have even bothered letting him take a set shot and got the ball back to the centre, lockett and fev to follow)
Hoping Big J can be 4th
Call Me Cake
9 Mar 2010, 19:56
There is something no one can accuse Jay of not having, and that's talent + footy smarts.
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Watching Neagle and Gumby in the same forward line makes me drool, hopefully we can see it more during the season proper as they both get a top on fitness.
Speaking of Gumby, his presence is very assuring, can't wait to see him bulk up and really stick it to them in a couple of years. :thumbsu:
Beerfish
9 Mar 2010, 22:40
I saw him play in one of his first (if not the first?) game for us at Subi. I left that game thinking we've got our next Lloyd. He has a great set of hands and his kicking is quite astonishing tbh. Beautiful. Ever since then I've just been hoping he can get on the park consistently. The weight gain was an added worry going forward but he's looking pretty fit now really.
Interesting side story. My uncle in law was on the same plane coming back from Melbourne as the team when they were on their way here to play that game at Subi. Knowing I was a Bombers man, he grabbed the back page of the paper (had a story about the game and Jay in particular) and got his autograph on it for me. He said he was quite shocked when he asked him as everyone else was going for the big names. :D
He got a couple of other scrawls as well.. I think one may have been McPhee.. :(
TheDon35
10 Mar 2010, 03:31
How hard did he work? Tackling, pressure, 2nd efforts, long leads???
Talent is not, and never will be, the issue with Neagle.
Long leads .... Tick.
Tackling and defensive pressure not great but I don't want the best tackler for a full forward. I want the best goal kicker
2nd efforts are there. Will get better with experience.
Again, not easy to run around like Judd when you're a completely different player, have a broken foot and have barely turned 21.
TheDon35
10 Mar 2010, 03:36
Worth mentioning Jobe Watson in this thread.
Very similar in that he had problems with conditioning early on. In fact, injuries aside i'd say that Watson was worse prepared for league footy at a similar age than what Neagle was.
It was about this time in his career that Watson really knuckled down with the benefit of a few years experience behind him and probably a number of reality checks.
This doesn't mean that Neagle's going to get there.
I personally think he's one of the better key forward talents under 23 years of age and if he gets a sustained crack injury free in a side that can get him the ball, he'll be a more than adequate premiership full forward.
Kaiser Powser
10 Mar 2010, 07:39
Worth mentioning Jobe Watson in this thread.
Very similar in that he had problems with conditioning early on. In fact, injuries aside i'd say that Watson was worse prepared for league footy at a similar age than what Neagle was.
It was about this time in his career that Watson really knuckled down with the benefit of a few years experience behind him and probably a number of reality checks.
This doesn't mean that Neagle's going to get there.
I personally think he's one of the better key forward talents under 23 years of age and if he gets a sustained crack injury free in a side that can get him the ball, he'll be a more than adequate premiership full forward.
Jobe had a huge pre-season in 06' and lost a lot of weight.
Hopefully Jay has a similar epiphany and knuckles down.
Duckworth
11 Jul 2010, 19:16
Showed a bit today. Would have really liked to have seen Gumby working down there as well.
james_omahoney
11 Jul 2010, 19:22
Neagle played well today.
Shouldn't have been dropped after 1 game; another Selection Committee blunder to add to the pile.
Skeeta Olly
11 Jul 2010, 19:22
Reasonable happy. Although he didn't present enough IMO. I remember someone marking the ball just outside 50 on one flank. Neagle was leading as if the ball was on the other flank, well not leading, jogging.
Call Me Cake
11 Jul 2010, 19:28
Shouldn't have been dropped after 1 game;
Could have been a good move though, seems as if he's had the time to lose a bit of weight.
Instead of carrying it around, and losing more and more confidence as each game passed by...
Ben the Gooner
11 Jul 2010, 19:29
We look so much better with a leading target in the team.
Neagle or Williams play in every game from now on, please.
Skeeta Olly
11 Jul 2010, 19:30
Neagle it is.
Williams should be sent off for surgery.
Call Me Cake
11 Jul 2010, 19:37
Which begs the question, where do we put Hurley when Fletcher and Pears come back?
Let him roam on the forward 50 arc with Gumby at CHF and Neagle at FF?
Or switch him back to front? I have a feeling it's starting to tire out the poor guy. Still plays well on both sides of the ground regardless. Mold him into a Goddard-type player perhaps?
If Neagle keeps this up until Pears and Fletch are both on the ground, this is the sort of problem will be having. A good problem to have, anyway.
Jonesy1987
11 Jul 2010, 19:39
Play Neagle FF, Hurley CHF, Gumby HFF leading up the ground.
Ben the Gooner
11 Jul 2010, 19:41
Hurley and Gumby both as CHFs.
james_omahoney
11 Jul 2010, 19:42
Could have been a good move though, seems as if he's had the time to lose a bit of weight.
Instead of carrying it around, and losing more and more confidence as each game passed by...
He does look leaner. Hard to argue that it wouldn't have happened at AFL level though, given that only this year has he finally gotten over his ankle problems.
Having said that he shouldn't have been dropped, don't take that to mean that he shouldn't have been dropped if he was not performing at AFL level over time, thereby nipping any 'confidence wreckers' in the bud.
He needs the experience, and geez it was a lot of games to miss out on.
Skeeta Olly
11 Jul 2010, 19:43
I still reckon Hurley is a FB.
I think MMM were talking to Fletcher before the match and he said something about Hurley being a FB and being played there today instead of CHF.
Hirdman
11 Jul 2010, 19:55
I still reckon Hurley is a FB.
I think MMM were talking to Fletcher before the match and he said something about Hurley being a FB and being played there today instead of CHF.
Hurley has looked lost for the majority of the year up forward. I dont actually think he was that good today but he seems alot more comfortable down back.
Thought Neagle was pretty good today, clunked some good grabs when given a chnace based on disposal and is just a smart footballer when he gets the ball, just MUST be persisted with!
Have never lost the faith. :thumbsu:
centurion
11 Jul 2010, 20:13
Have never lost the faith. :thumbsu:
Either had i. Thing is he needs more games, won by merit of course...
james_omahoney
11 Jul 2010, 20:24
Nice one Whomb
Boucks09
11 Jul 2010, 20:27
I was really pleased with his game today.
He would've won a lot more ball deep but the players were just simply inept or blind to kick the ball to his advantage.
He would continually make space to the 'phat side' of the ground and the players would kick it to the other side meaning that he would have to double back and would be behind is opponent. Drove me ****en mad.
You can't see those sorts of things on TV but on Level 3 you pick a lot more up.
Played well but will be dropped this week for reasons unknown (see Neagle, Reimers, Myers, Melksham, Slattery for cases in point).
HighettBomber
11 Jul 2010, 20:34
Was pretty good today, as has been stated a number of times by other posters he should never have been dropped in the first place. Now that he is back i hope they keep him there, he's the only one of our key forward options that look like they belong at FF. Hurley and Gumby are both better up the ground and there is room to play Hurley in the backline fore the rest of the season. I think Neagle would benefit from Williams was in the side also, as he gets lost sometimes and runs to areas where the ball can't get to him. A more experienced forward helping with positioning would do him the world of good.
Hurley and Gumby both as CHFs.
Which besg the question BtG..
Where do Carlisle and Still fit into long term equation of the EFC?
Was really impressed with his game, that lovely pin point kick to Ryder leading out of the 50 was simply superb (apparently his field kicking has been an issue, it's not as good as his goal kicking)..
Really really good today, took some lovely marks, hopefully with the inclusion of Gumby next week at CHF, Neagle may be able to play his normal game and take on the full back in a one on one contest and use those big hips of his to get that big frame in the way to clunk a grab..
stay true
11 Jul 2010, 21:17
I was really pleased with his game today.
He would've won a lot more ball deep but the players were just simply inept or blind to kick the ball to his advantage.
He would continually make space to the 'phat side' of the ground and the players would kick it to the other side meaning that he would have to double back and would be behind is opponent. Drove me ****en mad.
Yeah that shitted me big time too. I thought he was one of the few positives today. Even when we kicked it on his he didn't give up and contested well and spoiled a few marks and laid some good tackles. I wasn't expecting much from him but he impressed me. Absolute lunacy if he gets dropped.
I was really pleased with his game today.
He would've won a lot more ball deep but the players were just simply inept or blind to kick the ball to his advantage.
He would continually make space to the 'phat side' of the ground and the players would kick it to the other side meaning that he would have to double back and would be behind is opponent. Drove me ****en mad.
You can't see those sorts of things on TV but on Level 3 you pick a lot more up.
Played well but will be dropped this week for reasons unknown (see Neagle, Reimers, Myers, Melksham, Slattery for cases in point).
I saw it a little different at times however. At moments you are correct about the players kicking it to the wrong side of Neagle. However, on many occasions Neagle would lead out away from the player, but the player who had the ball wasn't in the right position to kick it to where he was leading.
Neagle needs to look at the player who has the ball, know what foot they kick on, where they are running and then lead to a position that is advantageous to both the team and the deliverer. That will come with playing within the team more regularly, however.
Today he was great. Gave off a few handballs, blocks and snagged a few. The most positive thing to come from today. He and Zaha, both.
FrankGrimes
11 Jul 2010, 21:21
agreed was great today, keep this up and he has a future with the EFC moving forward..shocking kjicking into the f50 didnt help his cause.. if knights drops him i will never go to another game he is in charge of...
davey_magik
11 Jul 2010, 21:23
I thought he was very good in a poor team today.
For me though he doesn't look like he can play CHF as I don't think he is quick enough, but with a frame like that he will be a monster at FF :thumbsu: .
Essendon need midfielders but you have the most promising young KPPs in the league IMO.
The Fact
11 Jul 2010, 21:35
Play Neagle FF, Hurley CHF, Gumby HFF leading up the ground.
This needs to happen
Ben the Gooner
11 Jul 2010, 21:38
Which besg the question BtG..
Where do Carlisle and Still fit into long term equation of the EFC?
Bendigo for the next year or two.
Bendigo for the next year or two.
OK BtG.
Here's something for you.
We are banking on Gumbleton to be our savious and hopefully Jay can come on slowly..
Those two hold the KP posts in the seniors, whilst Hurley/Pears and Hooker hold down the KP posts down back.
again "Where do Carlisle and Still fit into long term equation of the EF?"
Ben the Gooner
11 Jul 2010, 21:54
There is no possible way of answering that.
They could overtake any or all of our KPs, they could request a trade, they could be duds.
You need contingencies, and you have to make decisions as they come, not years ahead of time.
EssendonPride
11 Jul 2010, 21:55
OK BtG.
Here's something for you.
We are banking on Gumbleton to be our savious and hopefully Jay can come on slowly..
Those two hold the KP posts in the seniors, whilst Hurley/Pears and Hooker hold down the KP posts down back.
again "Where do Carlisle and Still fit into long term equation of the EF?"
Err... Depth to cover injuries?
I've heard this can occasionally be useful to a team.
I swear I must be missing something here.
Tony Delaney
11 Jul 2010, 22:03
Neagle got two gimme goals in the goal square and did bugger all else except for a couple of chest marks.
Hurley should have been put down the back line when Pears first broke his arm to get used to a position and get some consistency. He has been in and out of games in the forward line and has looked lost to an extent.
Jonesy1987
11 Jul 2010, 22:17
Neagle got two gimme goals in the goal square and did bugger all else except for a couple of chest marks.
Yep in his first game back, getting 13 touches, 5 marks and kicking 3 goals with some of the worst delivery on record, rubbish game Absolute rubbish :rolleyes:
Tony Delaney
11 Jul 2010, 22:29
Yep in his first game back, getting 13 touches, 5 marks and kicking 3 goals with some of the worst delivery on record, rubbish game Absolute rubbish :rolleyes:
Two goals on a platter five chest marks and pumped in just about every one on one with his opponent. 13 touches = 3 per quarter don't get too excited. I will give you that for him they are huge stats.
Jonesy1987
11 Jul 2010, 22:44
Two goals on a platter five chest marks and pumped in just about every one on one with his opponent. 13 touches = 3 per quarter don't get too excited. I will give you that for him they are huge stats.
Which is miles better than Gumbleton has averaged all year...
Funny how its two goals on a platter, yet our other forwards don't seem to be able to get into advantageous positions or are too afraid to take the onus themselves.
From memory he only had a single one on one contest, because the midfielders were mucking around and don't have the balls to go long, so by the time the kick came in he was out of position, would have been a very frustrating day for Neagle.
IAmAJedi
11 Jul 2010, 22:47
One thing I liked about how Neagle played was that, he kicked the ball.
There I said it