View Full Version : Is Shane Watson the Best ODI player in the World?
Drummond
13 Mar 2010, 12:45
I think he is, stats seem to say so too.
From 108 matches...
Batting:
Runs: 3200
Average: 40.46
SR: 84.71
50's: 4
100's: 14
HS: 136*
Bowling:
Wickets: 115
Average: 27.77
Econ: 4.86
SR: 34.2
BB: 4/36
4wi: 3
Ridiculously good limited-overs cricketer, he's been in amazing form with bat and ball for a while now. Could be picked on either specialty. Also one of the best fielders in the world as he's got the safest pair of hands. Gun. :thumbsu:
Tambaran
13 Mar 2010, 12:59
Goes close. Needs to kick on a bit with the bat once he hits 50, has a habit of getting out around there after a blistering start.
A few more 100s and you'd have to say he is.
Handy knack of picking up wickets when we need them too.
both averages are bound to improve as well, you'd have to say. i'm a bit reluctant to totally agree since it's on the back of windies/pak, but there's no reason why he wouldn't hold his own against stronger teams.
Kim Hagdorn
13 Mar 2010, 13:03
Certainly has the potential to be the best.
Gazza_11
13 Mar 2010, 13:55
Very much there. Brilliant slipper too.
Smokey_22
13 Mar 2010, 14:02
The first IPL really gave him a lot of confidence. He announced himself then. He single handedly won us the champions trophy when he hit hundreds in the semi and the final.
Allows us good batting/bowling depth.
Bradesmaen
13 Mar 2010, 14:21
I think he is, stats seem to say so too.
From 108 matches...
Batting:
Runs: 3200
Average: 40.46
SR: 84.71
50's: 14
100's: 4
HS: 136*
Bowling:
Wickets: 115
Average: 27.77
Econ: 4.86
SR: 34.2
BB: 4/36
4wi: 3
Ridiculously good limited-overs cricketer, he's been in amazing form with bat and ball for a while now. Could be picked on either specialty. Also one of the best fielders in the world as he's got the safest pair of hands. Gun. :thumbsu:
Fixed the part underlined. Didn't think he had 14 ODI centuries ;)
aussie1st
13 Mar 2010, 15:26
Definitely the best all rounder going around, hard to say best ODI player as Tendulkar just smoked a 200 and he smoked a 175 against us.
TheStinger
13 Mar 2010, 15:40
In a word, no.
In two words, Sachin Tendulkar.
realsniper09
13 Mar 2010, 15:52
Yes He Is.
He would be picked on either discipline, and that's no even taking into account his fiedling. Very reliable with the ball, explosive and consistent with the bat. If he fails in the 1st innings in one discipline, he'll hit back in the 2nd with the other discipline.
He's not only efficient with the ball, but he takes wickets when needed and can bowl at the end of the innings. When batting, he gives the team an amazing start not only scoring a bunch of runs, but gets them quickly. You can't ask for much more.
Gives the team so much variety unlike any other player in the world.
Tambaran
13 Mar 2010, 16:06
Does it again - out for 53.
Really needs to kick on in ODIs. Could have led his team to glory in this match and threw it away with a silly shot.
aussie1st
13 Mar 2010, 16:11
Hes just not converting of late and his scoring rate has slipped compared to the summer and the 1st ODI in NZ.
BarneyBent
13 Mar 2010, 16:57
Does it again - out for 53.
Really needs to kick on in ODIs. Could have led his team to glory in this match and threw it away with a silly shot.
Still, you'd pick a 53 for one of your openers any time.
Hellgood
13 Mar 2010, 17:14
Very good player, nobody can doubt that anymore, but not the best in the world. Sachin Tendulkar recently has been amazing, sure he doesn't bowl but he destroys very good bowling attacks. Probably the most inform allrounder in the world.
Drummond
13 Mar 2010, 17:49
Hes just not converting of late and his scoring rate has slipped compared to the summer and the 1st ODI in NZ.
45, 47, 15, 32, 53 this series. Average of 38.4, very good for anyone, let alone an opener.
Converting might not be great but you'd take that anyday.
Hmmm, IMO he comes very close at the moment.
A vital cog in our odi side, maybe needs to get more from his starts. Otherwise, can't fault him much.
Belnakor
14 Mar 2010, 17:49
these days averaging over 35 is bloody good for a ODI, lot more wickets falling for some reason.
One of the most complete cricketers going around IMO.
performances have been very good, what will make him great is converting after getting past 50, much like the Sehwags and Tendulkars
courtjester
15 Mar 2010, 04:20
He's pretty good. He's no James Hopes though. Hopes is the best going around.
The first IPL really gave him a lot of confidence. He announced himself then. He single handedly won us the champions trophy when he hit hundreds in the semi and the final.
Allows us good batting/bowling depth.
Was fascinating listening to Shane Warne during the Summer about how he gave Watson more responsibility in the IPL, and he thought this was the start of the Shane Watson we are seeing right now. Say what you like about Warne off the ground, but he has one of the most astute cricketing brains in the world.
Blue Dimension
15 Mar 2010, 12:36
He has always been a gun in the making.
Imo in time, injury permitting, he can become the best ranked player in in tests, and ODI's.
Histrionics
15 Mar 2010, 14:30
Very very good player, I don't know about him being the best in the world cause I don't watch enough of the other countries to judge.
Very much there. Brilliant slipper too.
This part of his game is underrated IMO.
Gazza_11
15 Mar 2010, 19:57
Safest slips cordon in the world.
Ponting, White and Watson. Clarke to the spinners, and fourth if we need it. Hussey in the gully.
What more could you ask for?
mayhem20202
18 Mar 2010, 13:33
Safest slips cordon in the world.
Ponting, White and Watson. Clarke to the spinners, and fourth if we need it. Hussey in the gully.
What more could you ask for?
Jesus at short leg, and that is the best field ever assembled.
Ricketts
18 Mar 2010, 18:20
I'd like to know his numbers for the second 54 matches of his career.
Gazza_11
18 Mar 2010, 19:19
Definitely, seeing as before he was simply a pinch hitter, and attacking fields bowler.
Gazza_11
18 Mar 2010, 19:28
50 matches
1890 Runs
Batting average - 47.25
Strike Rate - 89.91
9 50's
4 100's
57 Wickets
Bowling Average - 22.63
Economy - 4.85
Strike Rate - 27.9
18 catches
mattf83
18 Mar 2010, 19:40
50 matches
1890 Runs
Batting average - 47.25
Strike Rate - 89.91
9 50's
4 100's
57 Wickets
Bowling Average - 22.63
Economy - 4.85
Strike Rate - 27.9
18 catches
thats hismlast 50 matches ?
thats unbelievable
realsniper09
18 Mar 2010, 22:16
50 matches
1890 Runs
Batting average - 47.25
Strike Rate - 89.91
9 50's
4 100's
57 Wickets
Bowling Average - 22.63
Economy - 4.85
Strike Rate - 27.9
18 catches
Far out.
They are exceptional stats for a batsman, brilliant strike-rate AND average.
They're also extraordinary stats for a bowler - incredible economy, strike-rate AND average.
You'd LOVE those stats in just one discipline, however, this is two players in one. Shane Watson.
Tambaran
18 Mar 2010, 22:51
Absolutely phenomenal statistics. And over 50 matches, that's no fluke. That's a ridiculously good player.
Damon_3388
19 Mar 2010, 01:17
Jesus at short leg, and that is the best field ever assembled.
Surely Boonie comes first :p
Gazza_11
19 Mar 2010, 14:23
Only problem is the kegs of beer he'd have with him :p
iam_legend
24 Mar 2010, 18:56
Any doubt ? He sure is.
Let sachin start bowling and get some wickets to be considered with watson in ODI's presently