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Stuart Maxfield has only put in one really good game this year. He is certainly not the player he was in 2001 and the early part of 2002.
Three trains of thought:
1 He's still carrying an injury
or
2 The weight of being Captain is proving to much for him.
or
3 He' s past it
TheMase
13 May 2003, 21:28
Originally posted by JennyJ
Stuart Maxfield has only put in one really good game this year. He is certainly not the player he was in 2001 and the early part of 2002.
Three trains of thought:
1 He's still carrying an injury
or
2 The weight of being Captain is proving to much for him.
or
3 He' s past it
Why do you care?
thommoone
13 May 2003, 21:34
IMHO, i actually think that possibly the weight of being caotaincy is too much for him. Although in years gone by Stu has not been the most consistent player (barring 2001 and 2002 before injury hit)
CharlieG
13 May 2003, 21:49
Not sure exactly what he's done wrong.
He's not a captain that's going to go and get 20 possessions week in, week out, like Buckley. Nor is he going to do the absolute bone-crunching stuff like Voss. I think the key to his leadership is what he does off the field, and from all accounts in this area he is a born leader.
It was a pretty stupid mistake making Maxfield captain.
Even Shauble would have been a better choice.
Maxfield as captain is the AFL's version of Mike Brearley.
evertonfc
13 May 2003, 23:03
Originally posted by JennyJ
Stuart Maxfield has only put in one really good game this year. He is certainly not the player he was in 2001 and the early part of 2002.
Three trains of thought:
1 He's still carrying an injury
or
2 The weight of being Captain is proving to much for him.
or
3 He' s past it
One train of thought.
*He's stepped up this year and proved to be an excellent captain who's performances have gone a long way to filling the void left by Paul Kelly in both a leadership and possesional sense.*
:D
Played a decent last quarter against Melbounrne didn't he? He got a kick or two. Apparently ;)
Originally posted by TheMase
Why do you care?
Nice one. Really well thought out.
TheSheik
13 May 2003, 23:35
Can't be doing too much wrong when you consider the Swans last two games ??
wagstaff
14 May 2003, 00:03
Originally posted by CharlieG
Not sure exactly what he's done wrong.
He's not a captain that's going to go and get 20 possessions week in, week out, like Buckley.
In his position, if he's not getting 20 possessions a game then he's not doing well enough.
Buckley averages closer to 30 possessions a game then 20 in recent times.
Originally posted by MGREG
Maxfield as captain is the AFL's version of Mike Brearley.
I'm sure the Swans would take Brearly's win/loss record under Maxfield!
Originally posted by wagstaff
In his position, if he's not getting 20 possessions a game then he's not doing well enough.
Maxfield's averaging just on 20 posessions per game this year.
Originally posted by MGREG
Maxfield as captain is the AFL's version of Mike Brearley. That would infer that he's an excellent captain but not a good enough player to be in the team. I don't think either is true.
CharlieG
14 May 2003, 08:15
Originally posted by wagstaff
In his position, if he's not getting 20 possessions a game then he's not doing well enough.
Buckley averages closer to 30 possessions a game then 20 in recent times.
I'm sure the Swans would take Brearly's win/loss record under Maxfield!
Um... that should have actually read 30, not 20. Typo...
grayham
14 May 2003, 10:55
Originally posted by MGREG
It was a pretty stupid mistake making Maxfield captain.
Even Shauble would have been a better choice.
Maxfield as captain is the AFL's version of Mike Brearley.
Maxfield has been an inspired choice of captain.
He may not be a huge possession winner, but he is a great leader, as shown by the form of the swans this year.
He has chimed in for some pretty inspirational goals at critical times (eg v Melbourne last quarter) which have set the swans up.
Cant ask for more than that. Buckley is the better player, Maxfield the better captain/leader. He has one of the best work-ethics of any player at the swans.
He's coming off an injury plagued year, and is getting a little long in the tooth. He's a short term solution to use his experience and leadership while the club rebuilds and some of the younger players step up. Goodes is being touted as the next captain, but if he had the burden of the captaincy this year he may not be the player he is.
Lockyer24
14 May 2003, 11:12
Originally posted by grayham
Cant ask for more than that. Buckley is the better player, Maxfield the better captain/leader. He has one of the best work-ethics of any player at the swans.
Wrong..and Buckley has probably the best work ethic in the league.
grayham
14 May 2003, 11:21
Originally posted by Lockyer24
Wrong..and Buckley has probably the best work ethic in the league.
I didnt say Buckley didnt have a good work ethic. Just that Maxfields many captaincy credentials include the best work ethic at his team.
Maxfield also has respect and integrity. (eg He didnt leave an outpost team to a big 4 team to play "finals football")
Stone Cold
14 May 2003, 11:26
Still carrying a headache from when he got hit over the head with a Pool Cue last year by one of his teammates!!!!!
Lockyer24
14 May 2003, 11:27
Originally posted by grayham
Maxfield also has respect and integrity. (eg He didnt leave an outpost team to a big 4 team to play "finals football")
He would have many players respect for being a receiving frontrunner, I agree. Shame he's rated the worst captain in the league. And moving from Richmond to Sydney, it would have to be a money issue to be that stupid to move to a club just as unsuccessful as the previous.
TheMase
14 May 2003, 11:32
Originally posted by Lockyer24
Shame he's rated the worst captain in the league.
Viewed by whom?
I would think that the coaching staff would have a better clue than anyone on Bigfooty.
Maxfield spent the last half of last year injured, and in the coaches box helping Roos with the running of match days.
Showed a lot of committment, and shows a hell of a lot of leadership off the field and on the track.
On the field he does pretty well. 20 possessions average isn't bad. And he will only get better.
Sydney should think about nominating a Vice Captain, would take a bit of the load off Maxfield.
Sydney's form in the past 3 weeks alone says that Maxi can't be doing THAT bad a job.
Lockyer24
14 May 2003, 11:44
Originally posted by TheMase
Viewed by whom?
All that matters :rolleyes: ..the BF community. Wasn't there a poll a while ago?
Originally posted by Lockyer24
All that matters :rolleyes: ..the BF community. Wasn't there a poll a while ago?
The Big Footy "community" also overwhelmingly agreed that Sydney has the worst playing list in the AFL.
So the worst captain is leading the worst list.
Why aren't the Swans coming last then?
Originally posted by grayham
I didnt say Buckley didnt have a good work ethic. Just that Maxfields many captaincy credentials include the best work ethic at his team.
Maxfield also has respect and integrity. (eg He didnt leave an outpost team to a big 4 team to play "finals football")
No he left a big team for MONEY.
grayham
14 May 2003, 12:24
Originally posted by MarkT
No he left a big team for MONEY.
crap.
grayham
14 May 2003, 12:27
Originally posted by Lockyer24
He would have many players respect for being a receiving frontrunner, I agree. Shame he's rated the worst captain in the league. And moving from Richmond to Sydney, it would have to be a money issue to be that stupid to move to a club just as unsuccessful as the previous.
Ha ha,
Buckley must be extremely stupid then ( he actually is) because he left a team to go to one that was FAR LESS successful than the previous......... to play "finals football".
Pure selfishness, reflected in his "figjam" persona.
Great player, wouldnt want him as captain in a million years.
Chris_Judd
14 May 2003, 12:50
Stuart Maxfield wouldn't even get a game in the Eagles midfield never mind captain. I think that says it all.
grayham
14 May 2003, 13:03
Originally posted by Chris_Judd
Stuart Maxfield wouldn't even get a game in the Eagles midfield never mind captain. I think that says it all.
Get back to me when your captain leads you to victories against Collingwood and Brisbane. :D
windbag
14 May 2003, 14:51
Maxfield is a better than average player who has obviously seen better years.
I feel that the Swans are winning in spite of his leadership, they have gained confidence in their own abilities whereas Maxfield seems to have lost his.
He may be averaging 20 possessions but he is kicking poorly and that has been one of the features of his game in past years, a deadly accurate kick. He should also be getting that number of possessions playing the positions he does. He doesnt seem to be doing much with them.
I keep hearing these comments from Swan supporters that he is a great leader off the field as well. A few examples of these may assuage the doubt in this area.
My own judgement is that he is passed it and up against some of the young guns in the side he is starting to look like he hasn't a lot of time left in the AFL ranks.
grayham
14 May 2003, 15:23
Originally posted by windbag
Maxfield is a better than average player who has obviously seen better years.
I feel that the Swans are winning in spite of his leadership, they have gained confidence in their own abilities whereas Maxfield seems to have lost his.
He may be averaging 20 possessions but he is kicking poorly and that has been one of the features of his game in past years, a deadly accurate kick. He should also be getting that number of possessions playing the positions he does. He doesnt seem to be doing much with them.
I keep hearing these comments from Swan supporters that he is a great leader off the field as well. A few examples of these may assuage the doubt in this area.
My own judgement is that he is passed it and up against some of the young guns in the side he is starting to look like he hasn't a lot of time left in the AFL ranks.
There is no doubt his best football is behind him. But whats that got to do with captaincy. Is Steve Waugh the best cricketter Australia has? Not by a long shot.
What Maxfield brings to the captaincy is a wealth of experience in a young side, a large amount of respect and leadership (which is hard to prove here) off the field, and has done some quality captaincy things on field too this year. Recent examples would be the great snap for goal in the last quarter against Melbourne, and going back to take the kickins from behinds over the last two weeks when we have been under seige and a younger player has fluffed the last one.
Apart from winning the toss, you cant ask for much more. A captain has very little say in tactics/positions on match day unlike other sports. The main thing is his leadership/experience around the club.
Chris_Judd
14 May 2003, 16:14
Originally posted by grayham
Get back to me when your captain leads you to victories against Collingwood and Brisbane. :D
Actually he did... last year... when we beat Collingwood and Brisbane by around 50 points each... the only team to do so. Next question.
grayham
14 May 2003, 16:22
Originally posted by Chris_Judd
Actually he did... last year... when we beat Collingwood and Brisbane by around 50 points each... the only team to do so. Next question.
In Melbourne ?
hutstar
14 May 2003, 16:53
Chris Judd:
Mate, seriously, not everything in footy is about the west coast, or making an argument about why your team is better. Why post on a web thread about the Swans Captain with ' Jeez, he wouldn't get a game at WC'. No gives a F*** if he would or wouldn't. I am no swans fan but, please. Give it a rest. This thread is about Maxfields footy, not how little we care about the west coast beating 2 GF teams (and winning nothing for it).
The reality is mate, Maxfield has been a good (but not spectacular) player at two footy clubs. He is also a good (but not great) captain, leading not by his flashy or brilliant play but just by working hard, nurturing the younger guys and being a role model for team effort.
It really is not one extreme or the other in footy, as in life. If this forum is a way for you to blow smoke out your aR*se then good luck to you- go fight with the collingwood supporters at the thread entitled " moronic one line generalisations completely off topic". :mad:
Destructive
14 May 2003, 18:28
Originally posted by TheSheik
Can't be doing too much wrong when you consider the Swans last two games ??
In the last two games other players have taken centre stage.
Chris_Judd
14 May 2003, 18:55
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Originally posted by Chris_Judd
Actually he did... last year... when we beat Collingwood and Brisbane by around 50 points each... the only team to do so. Next question.
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Originally posted by grayham
In Melbourne ?
No... we belted them in Perth then lost the Melb game by 1 point.
Originally posted by CharlieG
Not sure exactly what he's done wrong.
He's not a captain that's going to go and get 20 possessions week in, week out, like Buckley. Nor is he going to do the absolute bone-crunching stuff like Voss. I think the key to his leadership is what he does off the field, and from all accounts in this area he is a born leader.
He seems to get 20 odd possessions each week but is ineffective with disposals. He is rarely tagged unlike Williams, Hall and Goodes all of whom have to work hard for their figures. His effort last week when Sydney knocked off the Lions was very ordinary.
He may be a born leader however it needs clarification. In the words of that redheaded fishmonger.... Please explain!
In the original post I gave 3 options and after reading through it seems that the weight of the Captaincy is the problem, he just doesnt seem able to cut it.
windbag
14 May 2003, 21:27
Well CJ, cant see you putting up much in defence, just a lot of nebulous statements.
Maybe there is a fourth option? :o
roowatch
14 May 2003, 21:57
Not doing much wrong from my point of view. For a running player he has had to get over a fairly serious knee injury last year which can take time. Or he may be getting to the stage where he can no longer be a very good player.
The important thing is that the Sydney brains trust weren't convinced that one of their younger players was ready to take the captaincy, so Maxfield fitted the bill. Will do a reasonable job, is apparently generally well liked, sets a good example, and will be able to be pushed aside in a year or two when other suitable players have been assessed to take over.
windbag
14 May 2003, 23:45
Theres been a bit of smoke about this guy around - what is the
deal.
mantraray
15 May 2003, 15:09
He's not playing as well as last year and the year before that but what is all that stuff on Swans talk about.
grayham
15 May 2003, 15:19
Originally posted by Chris_Judd
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Originally posted by Chris_Judd
Actually he did... last year... when we beat Collingwood and Brisbane by around 50 points each... the only team to do so. Next question.
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No... we belted them in Perth then lost the Melb game by 1 point.
So you havent beaten them in Melbourne. If you do this weekend, and if your captain plays then, and only then, can you talk about your captain in the same sentence as Mr Maxfield.
Until then, zip it.
mantraray
15 May 2003, 15:22
What is this crap on Swans Talk. Anyone enlighten the unwashed masses.
CharlieG
15 May 2003, 17:07
Originally posted by mantraray
What is this crap on Swans Talk. Anyone enlighten the unwashed masses.
Character assassination. Pure and simple. The person who was apparently there at the time has also claimed to live in England, and visited Perth with the Barmy Army. Considering the Swans game against WC was in July or thereabouts, and the Perth Ashes Test was in about November... go figure. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Originally posted by CharlieG
Character assassination. Pure and simple. The person who was apparently there at the time has also claimed to live in England, and visited Perth with the Barmy Army. Considering the Swans game against WC was in July or thereabouts, and the Perth Ashes Test was in about November... go figure. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Yes but what is the so called assassination about and what is he supposed to have done.
I wouldnt mind knowing thanks.
CharlieG
15 May 2003, 19:28
Originally posted by tully
Yes but what is the so called assassination about and what is he supposed to have done.
I wouldnt mind knowing thanks.
Well, I haven't bothered looking at that site in recent weeks... but as far as I can recall, they never said what he was supposed to have done. So... the only rumour was that there was a rumour, nothing more. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I've just had a look at the site seems a bit of a quiz to me.
mantraray
15 May 2003, 20:01
I'll ask the question again what is this crap all about.:confused:
CharlieG
15 May 2003, 20:07
mantra: The person who started it, won't say!!!
Sort of gives me the impression that is a personal obsession that has gotten to absolutely crazy proportions.
windbag
15 May 2003, 20:22
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CharlieG
[B]Not sure exactly what he's done wrong.
I think the key to his leadership is what he does off the field,
Its about time you answered the question what makes him such a born leader off the field, you never answer any questions from anyone on this board you just go on the attack, now be fair and back up your statement.
I've read the posts and I hope its a load of...........t.
Yeah CharlieG put up or be quiet. But then again the latter might be too much to ask for.
CharlieG can never answer a question just make statements.
CharlieG
15 May 2003, 22:34
How about you ask the players themselves, if you get the chance? I don't know the playing group intimately, so I don't know. I can only go on what the players say, and they say that he's a great leader off field. Why should I doubt that? They are around him a whole lot more than I am.
Why should I "put up or be quiet"? You don't want to believe he's a good leader... fine. He'll be shattered.
windbag
16 May 2003, 14:43
Hearsay is not good enough, which players said what CharlieG?
As stated its time to put up or shut up as the lady said. Your statement said that you knew and not what others had said and now you backpeddle.
Your credibility is on the line now which players said what about Maxie. How is he a "natural born leader.
It seems there may be 2 streams of thought within the club on this one now.
TheMase
16 May 2003, 15:01
Originally posted by windbag
Hearsay is not good enough, which players said what CharlieG?
As stated its time to put up or shut up as the lady said. Your statement said that you knew and not what others had said and now you backpeddle.
Your credibility is on the line now which players said what about Maxie. How is he a "natural born leader.
It seems there may be 2 streams of thought within the club on this one now.
The fact that he spent the last 10 games with Roos in the coaches box helping the staff with the running of game days is enough to tell me that he is a decent enough leader off the field.
windbag
16 May 2003, 15:06
I think it may have had more to do with the fact that he had little else to do with his time. It would be also be the case that Roos and Maxfield are good friends and Roos would need to shore up Maxfield's claims such as they were for the role of Captain.
It is also a fact of life that most players when injured volunteer there services to their clubs. We also only have Roos' word that Maxie was an asset in this area.
I would like to think he had other qualities.
BTW what is that all about on the other board?
CharlieG
16 May 2003, 17:11
Windbag... to be honest... I have little interest in what you think of my credibility.
As for the "rumours"... How many times do I have to say it? THE PSYCHOPATH WON'T SAY!!!
Originally posted by CharlieG
Windbag... to be honest... I have little interest in what you think of my credibility.
As for the "rumours"... How many times do I have to say it? THE PSYCHOPATH WON'T SAY!!!
I cant see from his post that he is worried about what you think but as a few people are stating, you never answer queries after making these outlandish and incredible quotes without any substantiation.
So forget your fixation with the psychopath and answer the questions or be quiet. Or others on this baord might be thinking the same of you.
robbieando
16 May 2003, 20:14
Gee some of you seem to enjoy yourselves on Swans Talk. Want a banana????? Get over it Maxfield was named Captain - so I think the Swans coaching staff knows a bit more about his leadership quailty's than you.
Originally posted by robbieando
Gee some of you seem to enjoy yourselves on Swans Talk. Want a banana????? Get over it Maxfield was named Captain - so I think the Swans coaching staff knows a bit more about his leadership quailty's than you.
I cant see the merit behind this post. But why the banana bit and do you have doubts about Maxie being Captain as seems likely.
robbieando
16 May 2003, 20:34
The banana bit is targeted at someone on another board who I know will be reading this - HELLO MMP.
On Stu I have no problems with him. He was my pick as captain in the first place and I think he is a great leader off the field - as shown by his actions after the Bulldogs loss last year when he got the team together on the Monday at his house and got the team on track for the next week in our close loss to Essendon. Actions like this show off the field he leads the team well. On the field he isn't the Paul Kelly type but he does his job well and has so far this year popped up when needed (His goal against Melbourne)
People who don't rate Maxfield do so because they compare him to the Buckley's, Voss's and even the Primus's of this world. He plays a different game to every other captain in this league and has come off a serious knee injury. He has done what I expected him to do.
The club felt no one else was up to the task so why question him as a captain????
I am absolutely lost with your banana jokes mate!
And you seem to me to be overly defensive about Maxie which suggests to me that you have very real doubts about him and his being Captain.
What the hell did this guy get up to anyway.
robbieando
16 May 2003, 20:46
Originally posted by tully
I am absolutely lost with your banana jokes mate!
And you seem to me to be overly defensive about Maxie which suggests to me that you have very real doubts about him and his being Captain.
What the hell did this guy get up to anyway.
Don't worry about the banana joke unless your the person who its aimed at.
I'm not defensive of Maxfield. He is the captain of my club and I support the decision. I think he is a good captain, not the best in the league but a good captain all the same. I have no doubts about him, why should I???
Some guy who claims to be from the UK , claims to have witnessed an incident last year when the Swans were in Perth. He came on RWO and posted it and in the end got banned, he has since taken over Swans Talk and is posting the same crap. The thing is he won't say what happen, except to say something happened.
windbag
16 May 2003, 20:51
Originally posted by robbieando
I'm not defensive of Maxfield. He is the captain of my club and I support the decision. I think he is a good captain, not the best in the league but a good captain all the same. I have no doubts about him, why should I???
The thing is he won't say what happen, except to say something happened.
As I have said already there is smoke but no flame but he must be saying something to get your back up. I am not keen on Maxfield as a Captain he doesnt have a lot going for him which suggests that the Swans must be lacking in potential leaders that they had to go with him.
robbieando
16 May 2003, 21:01
Originally posted by windbag
Swans must be lacking in potential leaders that they had to go with him.
Well other than Williams the Swans really didn't have a clear cut younger option. Goodes might just be the guy for the job when Stu retires. I think the move to appoint Maxfield is a good one as it give the club a chance to see which young guys has what it takes. A few have stepped up this year - Goodes, J.Bolton, Kennelly and others.
The smoke is there but until there is fire and the moron gives us all proof I choose to take what he says with a grain of salt
windbag
16 May 2003, 21:09
Originally posted by robbieando
Well other than Williams the Swans really didn't have a clear cut younger option. Goodes might just be the guy for the job when Stu retires. I think the move to appoint Maxfield is a good one as it give the club a chance to see which young guys has what it takes. A few have stepped up this year - Goodes, J.Bolton, Kennelly and others.
The smoke is there but until there is fire and the moron gives us all proof I choose to take what he says with a grain of salt
The Swans should have gone with a younger option and toughed it out. Williams is highly respected although may be too old for the job.
Goodes seems to be your main chance the other two dont strike me as leaders, although I was impressed with kennelly the other night on TV.
robbieando
16 May 2003, 21:15
Look I don't think naming a younger captain this year would of been a good idea. Now when we named Kelly back in 1993 it was a punt that paid off, but there was nothing to prove a simular move would of worked this time around. I think Goodes is the best future captain we have, but Goodes said yesterday that Bolton was his tip. Kennelly seems a good pick off his interview the other night, plus its clear he is in it for the honor not the money.
The had to pick between Maxfield and Willo and Maxfield got the nod, because of the way he handles himself off the field and the fact he had been at the club longer. Done nothing wrong so far and with more matches under his belt his fitness will pick and hopefully he can get back to his very best football.
windbag
16 May 2003, 21:21
Originally posted by robbieando
Look I don't think naming a younger captain this year would of been a good idea. Now when we named Kelly back in 1993 it was a punt that paid off, but there was nothing to prove a simular move would of worked this time around. I think Goodes is the best future captain we have, but Goodes said yesterday that Bolton was his tip. Kennelly seems a good pick off his interview the other night, plus its clear he is in it for the honor not the money.
The had to pick between Maxfield and Willo and Maxfield got the nod, because of the way he handles himself off the field and the fact he had been at the club longer. Done nothing wrong so far and with more matches under his belt his fitness will pick and hopefully he can get back to his very best football.
Sometimes punting is the only way to go Robbieando and the bet on Stu Maxfield wasnt the smartest bet the Swans have made.
I think Bolton is too concerned with his image to make a good Captain but there is a lot to like about Goodes.
Kennelly still needs a couple of years yet. I think he has a lot of character and if the Swans go back to picking vice captains then he could be a possibility.
Originally posted by robbieando
Look
The had to pick between Maxfield and Willo and Maxfield got the nod, because of the way he handles himself off the field and the fact he had been at the club longer.
Dreadful choice and from what I can surmise Maxie's performance of the field hasnt been crash hot.
;)
robbieando
16 May 2003, 23:31
So your telling me that you guess that Maxfield hasn't been too crash hot this season??? I take it you haven't seen us play this year??? And you ask Charlie to put up or shut up
Originally posted by robbieando
So your telling me that you guess that Maxfield hasn't been too crash hot this season??? I take it you haven't seen us play this year??? And you ask Charlie to put up or shut up
Will you ask CharlieG to do as asked .....please!!
And it was meant to say that he wasnt to crash hot OFF the field but then agian he hasnt been that good on it either.
I left an f for fool out of the off.
But anyway what did he get up to?
CharlieG
17 May 2003, 09:38
You ask why I'm defending Maxi so much?
Because you three are continually asking to know what he apparently did, when AS FAR AS I KNOW IT WAS NOTHING! Why do you keep asking me what the rumour is, WHEN I KEEP SAYING I DON'T KNOW??? Some psycho has taken an intense dislike to Stu, and in his cowardly manner has used aliases to bring up exactly this type of suspicion. Have you seen the posts about me, Robbie, Des and others from the RWO board? All we did to this little worm is doubt his story.
As for what he does off-field... all I can say is that when he was named captain, there was a lot of comments by players and staff that were supportive of the decision. I have no reason to assume that the players and club aren't happy with the decision... and really, that's all that matters. If a player respects a captain, they will generally work well under him. That's all that matters to me. I don't care how Maxi goes about his job... just as long as the results are there on field. In my mind, with the form of players like Goodes, O'Loughlin and Jude Bolton this year, there is a great sense of direction at the club. I'm not interested in trying to fix what isn't broken.
If you want to keep bitching and moaning about that... go right ahead. But I'm bored....
mantraray
17 May 2003, 13:45
Originally posted by CharlieG
You ask why I'm defending Maxi so much?
Because you three are continually asking to know what he apparently did, when AS FAR AS I KNOW IT WAS NOTHING! Why do you keep asking me what the rumour is, WHEN I KEEP SAYING I DON'T KNOW??? Some psycho has taken an intense dislike to Stu, and in his cowardly manner has used aliases to bring up exactly this type of suspicion. Have you seen the posts about me, Robbie, Des and others from the RWO board? All we did to this little worm is doubt his story.
As for what he does off-field...
I'm not interested in trying to fix what isn't broken.
If you want to keep bitching and moaning about that... go right ahead. But I'm bored....
I think you arent as bored as you say you are. I have spent a couple of hours reading these posts and the other board. There seems little doubt where the incident is alleged to have taken place just look up the internet search engines.
But what is alleged to have happened?
Whoever the Pschopath is ( they're your words) he also seems to have taken a healthy dislike to someone called Jug Ears and a Gemma as well. So he isnt selective in his approach.
Now if you could give us all a few details about why he is such a respected leader maybe everyone can move on. Hearsay is not good enough CharlieG.:mad:
CharlieG
17 May 2003, 13:49
Fine. Go on thinking that he's not a good enough leader. Really no skin off my nose. The Swans are winning pretty well at the moment... so there's really no problems as far as I'm concerned.
mantraray
17 May 2003, 13:51
Originally posted by CharlieG
Fine. Go on thinking that he's not a good enough leader. Really no skin off my nose. The Swans are winning pretty well at the moment... so there's really no problems as far as I'm concerned.
So once again we stick our head in the sand CharlieG and no respectable answers to any questions about the posts you make.
CharlieG
17 May 2003, 14:07
I have a distinct feeling that no matter what I post it won't be acceptable anyway... so why bother?
As I said... the Swans are winning... and no sooking by a couple of blow-ins on here is going to bother me.
mantraray
17 May 2003, 14:12
But you dont answer posts CharlieG you just keep saying it aint worrying me and then you have another swipe.
Now why is he a born leader?
What did he get up in the where I think I know now.:rolleyes:
CharlieG
17 May 2003, 14:18
Question 1) My original post said "By all accounts". It was not ME making the statement. I was just posting what I'd heard and read Swans players and staff saying over the past 2 years. If you have an issue with that, take it up with someone at the club. I'm sick of the question really... I've answered as best as I can, considering that I'm 800km away from the club itself. Now, I'd appreciate if you drop that issue.
Question 2) I DON'T ******* KNOW!!! Hell... HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT?
mantraray
17 May 2003, 14:21
Originally posted by CharlieG
Question 1) My original post said "By all accounts". It was not ME making the statement. I was just posting what I'd heard and read Swans players and staff saying over the past 2 years. If you have an issue with that, take it up with someone at the club. I'm sick of the question really... I've answered as best as I can, considering that I'm 800km away from the club itself. Now, I'd appreciate if you drop that issue.
Question 2) I DON'T ******* KNOW!!! Hell... HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT?
Well he isnt a born leader in your own estimation .....Thank you for finally coming to terms with that.
I think you protest too much and you do know ... now share it with us and stop screaming.;)
TheMase
17 May 2003, 14:49
Mate
We can only see the ins and outs of the club, by what we are told and see.
From all I have been told and that I have seen, Maxfield is a very good leader.
He is great on the track and demonstrates how an AFL football should approach training, very professionally. If anything on the track he is an excellent role model, and that is the sort of person we need as captain, to give the young guys a bit of 'get up and go' and confidence.
On the field he has been reasonable. He has had a bit of the ball, and has done the things a captain should do at the times needed (great goal against Melbourne lifted team?).
You can say all you like about the 'rumours' but the Swans results in the past few weeks speak for themselves. If there was that much doubt over the potential leadership of Maxfield, the players and staff certainly aren't showing it with excellent wins over Melbourne and moreso Collingwood and Brisbane.
mantraray
17 May 2003, 19:19
Seems like he sits at the right hand of God.
But then again I would like to know what actually happened as it seems that you and a few others are running shotgun for him.
He is the worst Captain in the league and certainly the worst the Swans have had.
:ot)
If he was there why was he there?
But the original post said what was wrong with him and all of a sudden we were all over the place.
He is not the player he was and not that he was that good but he could at least kick straight, he cant even do that now and his accuracy is poor. Swans are a better than good side and probably have a great chance to play in the finals but I wish Goodes was leading them.
Now Matt get back to your job!!
:rolleyes:
Those who have insisted that Charlie name Swans players who think Maxfield is a good captain may like to get a copy of today’s (Sydney) Sunday Telegraph newspaper. The main feature article in the center of the sports section (pages 68-69) is a very long background piece on Maxfield called “The Max factor”.
Here are a couple of quotes from players:
From Barry Hall:
He's one of the best captains I've had
From Jared Crouch:
Stuey's just inspirational on the field ..... he's really stepped up and has been sensational.
The example he sets is second to none.
He's also very serious about his work and if you can pull a smile out of him during training you are doing well.
I'm sure that Charlie G will graciously accept all apologies. :D
windbag
18 May 2003, 13:24
Strange but true.
But is it true that Paul Williams is now the official mouthpiece for the side with the press, which suggest that Maxfield lacks a lot of skill in this area.
Its called spin Bricon and planted by the club. There is a question mark about it. The timing of the article suggest that there is concern around the club about Maxfield.
Every time Maxfield comes under pressure an article about his ethics and likeability appears with boring regularity.
I may be wrong on this but the questions being raised asked why he was a leader of MEN, not what individual players thought.
CharlieG does not warrant anything but an anger management coach. Said in a caring manner:D
robbieando
18 May 2003, 17:09
Really you ask us for proof yet I haven't seen you give any proof except for some moron's crap on some site that no one posts on anymore.
If he is such a bad captain and the players don't like him why not give us some proof
Windbag, JennyJ and Tully - PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Maxfield answered for himself today! :)
mantraray
18 May 2003, 20:04
Originally posted by bricon
Maxfield answered for himself today! :)
I was working so only caught glimpses but he seemed to me to be trying too hard again.
Was he amongst the best players.
Did he answer on camera or is he still frightened of them?
CharlieG
18 May 2003, 20:07
I was working so only caught glimpses but he seemed to me to be trying too hard again.
You're hard to please!!!
mantraray
18 May 2003, 20:11
Originally posted by CharlieG
You're hard to please!!!
For once in your life Charlie answer the question. Was he one of the best. The times he did appear on screen he was running into the backs of Geelong players.
If you read the papers all over Aus you will see that Williams is getting the hype that a Captain normally gets and he looks the goods not the goose!!!!
CharlieG
18 May 2003, 20:19
Windbag
Mantraray
It seems to me that both of these recent arrivals are busying themselves primarily with Maxfield... and now both have stated that there are heaps of Willo articles across the newspapers... I'm starting to get suspicious.
Now as for the question... I don't see why I should answer, you "two" have been attacking me incessantly, but expect me to be reasonable? But if it will get you off my back for once, yes, I thought he was in the best 4 or 5. That's only my opinion... and others are liable to disagree...
mantraray
18 May 2003, 20:21
Originally posted by CharlieG
Windbag
Mantraray
It seems to me that both of these recent arrivals are busying themselves primarily with Maxfield... and now both have stated that there are heaps of Willo articles across the newspapers... I'm starting to get suspicious.
Now as for the question... I don't see why I should answer, you "two" have been attacking me incessantly, but expect me to be reasonable? But if it will get you off my back for once, yes, I thought he was in the best 4 or 5. That's only my opinion... and others are liable to disagree...
Dont be paranoid Charlie and I think the scribes disagree with you.
robbieando
18 May 2003, 20:23
So please link the Williams articles for this week, because I surely haven't seen them. More articles on Roberts-Thompson than Williams and also Goodes and Kennelly got a write up more than Willo.
Again put up or shut up. You haven't given us proof yet
CharlieG
18 May 2003, 20:28
I'll ask you the same thing I asked "Windbag". Can you provide links to these articles? "Put up or shut up."
mantraray
18 May 2003, 20:47
Originally posted by CharlieG
I'll ask you the same thing I asked "Windbag". Can you provide links to these articles? "Put up or shut up."
Suggest you try Murdoch press in all states! I will discuss links with a guy in IT who can help me.
Now CharlieG what I want know is what was Stu Maxfield doing in a certain spot in Perth the night before the Swans/WCE match in 2002.\\
He may have been in a restaurant or a McDonalds but what was he up to. Someone on these boards must know and I think you do. Maybe he was getting stuck into a meal of french fries :D
Theres a sting in the tail!!!
robbieando
18 May 2003, 20:51
Originally posted by mantraray
Now CharlieG what I want know is what was Stu Maxfield doing in a certain spot in Perth the night before the Swans/WCE match in 2002.\\
He may have been in a restaurant or a McDonalds but what was he up to. Someone on these boards must know and I think you do. Maybe he was getting stuck into a meal of french fries :D
Theres a sting in the tail!!!
This is what the moron on SwansTalk has been talking about. As was said before he won't say what happen. You seem to know more about it than we do. Again put up or shut up
mantraray
18 May 2003, 20:56
Originally posted by robbieando
This is what the moron on SwansTalk has been talking about. As was said before he won't say what happen. You seem to know more about it than we do. Again put up or shut up
Trouble is Robbieando I dont have a clue but someone on these boards does and if it is minor then put it out for us to see. Maybe he had a McDonalds big Mac. :)
CharlieG
18 May 2003, 20:56
Originally posted by mantraray
Suggest you try Murdoch press in all states! I will discuss links with a guy in IT who can help me.
Now CharlieG what I want know is what was Stu Maxfield doing in a certain spot in Perth the night before the Swans/WCE match in 2002.\\
He may have been in a restaurant or a McDonalds but what was he up to. Someone on these boards must know and I think you do. Maybe he was getting stuck into a meal of french fries :D
Theres a sting in the tail!!!
It's easy enough. Copy and paste the address, then post it. Make sure the "automatically parse URLs" thing is ticked.
robbieando
18 May 2003, 20:58
Originally posted by mantraray
Trouble is Robbieando I dont have a clue but someone on these boards does and if it is minor then put it out for us to see. Maybe he had a McDonalds big Mac. :)
The person who is posting on Swans Talk got banned from here a few weeks back. Other than him I don't think anyone other than you know's anything about it.
mantraray
18 May 2003, 21:00
Originally posted by robbieando
The person who is posting on Swans Talk got banned from here a few weeks back. Other than him I don't think anyone other than you know's anything about it.
Only what I have read on the Boards but I dont think Maxfield would be thanking you for your hysterics.
:rolleyes:
robbieando
18 May 2003, 21:04
So why not quote what you have read on here and post links as well because until this thread I have seen nothing posted about it, only what has come up on SwansTalk
Originally posted by mantraray
Trouble is Robbieando I dont have a clue
I think he's got it in one!
Are but we have been doing our homework and the businesses in that area will be named and then we 'll put it to a vote where he is likely to have been.
And Charlie/Robbieando I dont think you are going to be popular boys...
We should have the list of all establishments by Friday at the latest.
Mock Shock and Horror.:o:rolleyes:
Bomber Spirit
18 May 2003, 23:53
Originally posted by mantraray
Now ... what I want know is what was Stu Maxfield doing in a certain spot in Perth the night before the Swans/WCE match in 2002.\ I had a look at Swans Talk - and MtS's theory is entirely credible.
If anything untoward did happen in a Perth nightclub, you'll need to be more specific. And don't tell us, make a detailed statement to the WA Police, get them to lay charges and testify under oath in court.
robbieando
19 May 2003, 00:19
Originally posted by JennyJ
Are but we have been doing our homework and the businesses in that area will be named and then we 'll put it to a vote where he is likely to have been.
And Charlie/Robbieando I dont think you are going to be popular boys...
We should have the list of all establishments by Friday at the latest.
Mock Shock and Horror.:o:rolleyes:
I thought you were banned Mark?????
I don't care what you saw, nothing is going to happen. As I said before why wait the best part of a year to make public this crap - I know it most likely took you that long to think it up. Go I dare you take it to the police.
If you witnessed the incident, why can't you get the names of where it happened??? Oh your going to look up citysearch on Friday aren't you
Pity no one believes you except usernames made up by yourself.
mantraray
19 May 2003, 15:05
From muy understanding it isnt that type of offence but nice try. Only offensive and not good form. :)