View Full Version : Movie "Kick-Ass" Looks Awesome!
Jeffers
30 Mar 2010, 19:21
Who's looking forward to it?
I really can't wait for it.
Green Band Trailer
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Red Band Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_9FZ1463sw
Hit Girl!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zLsdBEsr90
red+black
30 Mar 2010, 19:38
Seeing it next Wednesday for free thanks to MIFF. Should be a hoot!
Invigoration
30 Mar 2010, 19:59
Can't wait. Hit-girl is gonna **** shit up :)
Wow actually looks pretty damn good, can't wait to see it.
red+black
30 Mar 2010, 21:23
Won't someone think of the children?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/kick-ass-classification-upsets-family-groups/story-e6frf96f-1225847162184
DoubleO7
30 Mar 2010, 21:48
The trailer seems awesome. One of those films I'd actually pay to see.
Edit: Family groups can go and STFU.
Won't someone think of the children?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/kick-ass-classification-upsets-family-groups/story-e6frf96f-1225847162184
I hate these overprotective parents groups, their kids are probably saying they are at a friends house studying when in fact they are going to see the movie anyway (its not hard for someone under 15 to get into a MA movie lol).
Copernicus
30 Mar 2010, 22:10
Have a listen to this ********:
Real Mums (http://www.realmums.com.au/index.php) founder Amanda Cox said that film censors had passed the buck to parents.
"I think it's a cop-out," she said. "The Government is society's parents; they can't do this stuff and then turn around and blame parents."'
That just makes me mad to read it. Grow up.
Looks like a good fun movie but "produced by Brad Pitt"? :s
Invigoration
31 Mar 2010, 17:34
Looks like a good fun movie but "produced by Brad Pitt"? :s
He runs a production company, I don't see why it'd be a problem in regards to the film quality.
Or are you referring to it appearing like that in the trailers, as in using his name as a crowd drawer? If so, I can see your point.
Byron_Clanger
31 Mar 2010, 17:36
I personally think it looks crap, I wont be seeing it
TheStinger
31 Mar 2010, 20:33
Real Mums founder Amanda Cox said that film censors had passed the buck to parents.
"I think it's a cop-out," she said. "The Government is society's parents; they can't do this stuff and then turn around and blame parents."
Duh wah?
That makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, looks kick ass (pun intended) and I think I will see it.
NitroFan
31 Mar 2010, 20:35
The film is rated R in the US, banning kids under 17, and British children under 15 are restricted from watching it, even in the company of their parents.
But in Australia it was given a MA 15+ rating so parents can take their kids along to see the flick, and 16-year-olds can watch it at their will.
Ugh. God forbid parents make an informed decision about something.
Someone get Mark Webber on the phone. I need a lend of his instruction book.
On the ratings for a minute, can't 16 year old Brits "watch it at their will" as well? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't America's "R" pretty much the equivalent of our MA, just with a different age? I believe they go from PG-13 to R-17, and under 17's can watch the movie with their parents. NC-17 is the same as our R, but again with a different age.
Dirtywhirl
31 Mar 2010, 21:14
Have been following this with interest for a while and I think it could be a sleeper hit, early reviews have been glowing.
88% on Rotten Tomatoes. :thumbsu:
DeadlyAkkuret
2 Apr 2010, 22:19
Child and adolescent psychologist Simon Kinsella warned that the film could trigger nightmares and encourage swearing.
"It can also desensitise people of any age to violence," Dr Kinsella said. "I think seeing that kind of foul language normalises it."
**** me dead, seriously. The film could "encourage swearing"? Oh me oh my whatever will we do. Attending school desensitises kids to swearing and violence, step in to the real world and get a grip ffs!
red+black
7 Apr 2010, 11:18
Off to see this tonight. Should be a good laugh.
red+black
7 Apr 2010, 22:09
One word.
ORSUM*
Actually, I lie. It was better than that :thumbsu:
*Only negative is Nicholas Cage, or perhaps some of his lines.
Anyway, go see Kick-Ass this weekend.
Don't wait, don't think about it. JUST GO!
red+black
8 Apr 2010, 09:51
If you like to read reviews before you commit to seeing a film, here is the Hun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/leigh-paatsch-film-review-kick-ass/story-e6frf8r6-1225850982912) review.
Seeing this tonight! I think i might put a bullet proof vest on and take a few so I'm prepared, baby doll...:):thumbsu:
Starring:
Nicolas Cage
Oh well.
Lockyer24
8 Apr 2010, 20:52
I have rounded up my geekiest friends and will be seeing this sometime this weekend
Mint Condition
8 Apr 2010, 21:51
Loved it. It's kind of like superbad meets Kill Bill. Hit Girl (the 11 year old) will definitely be remembered for a long time I think. Can see why it's a little controversial but I think it's original and simply really good black comedy. Some of the lines coming out of her mouth and the moves she pulls off are just hilarious - and the girl that plays her is excellent.
And I actually didn't mind Nicholas Cage in this. I thought his character was pretty funny and well done.
Highly recommend it to anyone that's not easily offended and doesn't take things too seriously.
This will win an Oscar. Simply brilliant. Hit Girl will have a cult following.
Cage was very good as well, completely deranged! Was a few scenes that you questioned why you aere laughing at an 11 y/o murdering people, very surprising that it is not a Tarintino movie.
I think I'm in love with Hit girl....:):thumbsu:
Highly recomend going and seeing it.
Donstuie
9 Apr 2010, 09:17
Saw it last night. Whether you love or hate this film one thing's for sure, there won't be another film like this, this year. Imagine the resultant child of a threesome between Spiderman, Kill Bill and Superbad, and you have Kick-Ass.
For those with no knowledge of the source material (of which many changes have been made), this remains possibly the most outrageously brutal and obscenely entertaining film you'll see this year (maybe until the Expendables comes out). Violence, language, gore, sexually explicit material, there's no stopping it. But that's not to say the movie is a giggle-fest from beginning to end, it still retains some of the darker elements from the comic and especially during the moments where the reality of what he's doing causes Kick Ass to question himself, you feel the weight he's carrying. Again, music is SO important in guiding our emotions throughout this film. There are many moments of real brutality, but whether you laugh or sit there in stunned silence depends on the music that's playing in the background. It's really that simple, and Vaughn uses it to tug at our psyches in the right places.
Aaron Johnson has a real future ahead of him. A British kid who can go from playing a subdued teenage John Lennon (if they ever do a Syd Barret film, there's your guy) to a dorky American schoolkid is almost as far removed as you can go. And part of the reason the heavier moments are actually heavy is because we like this kid. He just wants to help others and gets in way over his head. He plays it very well and will be one to look out for in the future. Cage is a crackup when on-screen. When he's in costume some of the more astute observers may notice an homage to a superhero (or specifically, actor who played a superhero). Say what you want about Cage, but not many can do bat**** crazy like he can. McLuvin (sorry, Christopher Mintz-Plasse) is humourous, snakelike and sympathetic all at once, and Mark Strong is becoming quite the go-to guy for villains, British or otherwise. This brings us to Hit-Girl, who (which I know will surprise no-one) steals this film. It's all been said about the language and the violence, but what hasn't been mentioned about Chloe Moretz's performance is that the kid can act. Like Kick-Ass, Hit-Girl has heavy moments of her own, as well as touching/humourous character moments with her dad, and Moretz shows great maturity and poise during the quiter moments as well as the wise-cracking, katana-yielding spawn from hell. She'll probably be known as Hit-Girl for the rest of her life unfortunately, because she can do a lot more too.
This is the benchmark for the plethora of fun action films coming our way in 2010 (Iron Man 2, The Expendables, The A-Team, The Losers). Don't listen to all the crybabies, just see this movie and enjoy :thumbsu:
red+black
9 Apr 2010, 13:53
For those that haven't seen it, check out 500 Days of Summer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1022603/) where Chloe (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1631269/) plays Joseph Gordon-Levitt's younger but all-knowing sister.
Dirtywhirl
9 Apr 2010, 13:56
She is also playing the vampire in the upcoming remake :rolleyes: of 'Let the Right One In' alongside the kid from 'The Road'.
Big Blow Hard
13 Apr 2010, 19:17
Saw it Sunday arvo.
This movie did indeed,
KICK-ASS!~!
What a great film. Saw it yesterday.
Incredible peformance by 12 year old. She will be a break-out star, no doubt about it.
Nicholas Cage was hilarious with his voice impersonation when he became Big Daddy. Very "Adam West-esque."
But the young girl's performance was the highlight. She was a star.
Admiral Afterworld
13 Apr 2010, 20:42
It is a good film. The violence works.
And anyone who is offended by an 11-year-old fictional character saying "****ing" and "****" needs to give up on life.
Harry Bosch
13 Apr 2010, 21:17
Haven't been keeping an eye out for new films recently and didn't even know about this until i saw an article about family groups whinging about it.
So thanks to the religious right for making me aware of this great film , much appreciated.
Dirtywhirl
13 Apr 2010, 21:44
Loved it, great blend of comedy and action.
Hit-Girl is damn cool
Hawthorn United
14 Apr 2010, 12:09
Saw it last night. Best movie I've seen in a bloody long time.
Hit Girl, best character ever! Will definitely get this on Bluray when it comes out.
Jeffers
15 Apr 2010, 22:46
What an awesome, awesome movie!
Still buzzing from it and it definitely exceeded my expectations.
That's how you make a really really good action/comedy.
Hit-Girl was phenomenal and the young actress who played her, Chloe Moretz will definitely be going places in the future.
88.5/90
"Alright you cunse"
My mrs hated it - me, I thought it was great. Plenty of laughs.
HarryTiger
17 Apr 2010, 23:50
If you read the plot you may be inclined to think it's not your kind of thing but don't be fooled, this is a damn good and original movie. It's even got McLovin in it but it's not really that kind of film, well not exclusively but it is sometimes (McLovin - Superbad). And there's elements of Kill Bill/Wanted, and Spiderman and it's funny and violent and dramatic, and it's all those things without being a jumbled mess. It all just fits together perfectly and I found myself caring about the characters - when I wasn't laughing hysterically.
Plot in a nutshell (no spoilers) it involves a variety of amateur Superheroes and their dealings with the city's main organized crime gang.
Just go see it!
midorigreenwood
19 Apr 2010, 10:59
Kick-ass production budget - 28 million
Spiderman 3 production budget - 258 million
*facepalm*
red+black
19 Apr 2010, 19:25
"Alright you cunse"
My mrs hated it - me, I thought it was great. Plenty of laughs.
Not the kinda film to take the missus to, unless she's uber-cool.
Hoping to go and see it this weekend. Some great reviews guys.
nicko99
20 Apr 2010, 20:49
Kick-ass production budget - 28 million
Spiderman 3 production budget - 258 million
*facepalm*
What made a truck load of more money? :cool:
Jonesy1987
20 Apr 2010, 21:14
Finally got around to seeing this, was a very good movie. A little disappointed how many good moments were shown on the trailer, such as the shape of giant **** line, the super hero wannabe falling at the start and a few of hit girls better kills.
It is a good film. The violence works.
And anyone who is offended by an 11-year-old fictional character saying "****ing" and "cvnt" needs to give up on life.
Yeah, how dare anyone be offended that an 11 year old says the c word :rolleyes:.
midorigreenwood
20 Apr 2010, 22:53
What made a truck load of more money? :cool:
yah, coz of name recognition
kick-ass is based on an indie comic with a non-existent marketing budget and sold purely with word of mouth. The comic creators even couldn't afford to print posters and encouraged comic stores to make their own from their website.
but thats beside the point..... kick-ass the movie with a 1/10 of the budget had a better script and was much more visually spectacular than the shithouse spidey 3
RobbyRoy
20 Apr 2010, 23:03
Yeah, how dare anyone be offended that an 11 year old says the c word :rolleyes:.
I'm a child of the internet generation and have been well and truly desensitized by pretty much everything, but I'm with you here. It doesn't offend me at all, but I'm actually surprised there hasn't been more of an outcry.
Jonesy1987
20 Apr 2010, 23:08
Anyone who chooses to be offended by that, should harden the **** up.
HarryTiger
20 Apr 2010, 23:23
Yeah, how dare anyone be offended that an 11 year old says the c word :rolleyes:.
....in an MA rated movie flagged as having violence and language.
red+black
20 Apr 2010, 23:51
I'm a child of the internet generation and have been well and truly desensitized by pretty much everything, but I'm with you here. It doesn't offend me at all, but I'm actually surprised there hasn't been more of an outcry.
I saw one youtube review that suggested while there hasn't been too much controversy about Hit-Girl using the *c* word, that perhaps there would be even less controversy if it was said by a boy. I dunno, maybe.
Anyway, why would there be an outcry? It's not a kids film and it was said only once.
Only once?
She uses the "c" and "f" words frequently.
How could the NEWSPAPER BE WRONG (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/kick-ass-classification-upsets-family-groups/story-e6frf96f-1225847162184)???
Saw it tonight - it is funny as ****.
Hit-Girl was phenomenal and the young actress who played her, Chloe Moretz will definitely be going places in the future.
Going places? STRAIGHT TO HELL! :mad:
magtrev
21 Apr 2010, 02:11
The greatest movie i've ever seen, and the non-hit-girl stuff was mediocre at best.
Simply amazing
Toshowyouwhy
21 Apr 2010, 09:47
Holy mother of carn that was awesome. I wasn't sure what to expect going in, but I left more than happy. I couldn't believe some of the things I was laughing at, but that kid did some of the coolest things I've ever seen.
One of the best movies I've seen in a very long time, maybe ever.
Took the young fella to this yesterday; really enjoyed it. Great fun movie. It didn't follow all the regular recipes.
Bit of a cross between Tarantino and Seth Rogan
Hawthorn United
21 Apr 2010, 12:20
Took the young fella to this yesterday; really enjoyed it. Great fun movie. It didn't follow all the regular recipes.
Bit of a cross between Tarantino and Seth Rogan
How old is the young fella? :confused:
Saw this today, was ****en fantastic.
After looking forward to this (http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16269963&postcount=93) since seeing the trailer back in November and was just as good as expectations.
Hit-Girl, well how much more can be said, absolutely superb and wonderfully played. And even the support were great. Nic Cage doing the Adam West impersonation was a bit of a throw off though and made him seem a bit more douchey than anything.
Don't know if a sequel will work though, but this one was great.
Will definitely be getting the Blu-Ray!:thumbsu::thumbsu:
HarryTiger
21 Apr 2010, 15:21
It started off slow at the box office, perhaps on the back of mixed reviews
(Ebert, 1 star http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/reviews/100419986 )
Hopefully the word of mouth will see it clean up like it should.
It started off slow at the box office, perhaps on the back of mixed reviews
(Ebert, 1 star http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/reviews/100419986 )
Hopefully the word of mouth will see it clean up like it should.Jeez, massive spoiler alerts in that review BTW, FFS!
The guy's a douche anyway, even without his chin he seems to have gained no life knowledge (cheap shot;)) and still would seem to have ideals of an 1800's type of mindset. This doesn't mirror real life at all and if anything it just shows some great concepts put into practice extremely well, get the **** over it.
midorigreenwood
21 Apr 2010, 16:44
Jeez, massive spoiler alerts in that review BTW, FFS!
The guy's a douche anyway, even without his chin he seems to have gained no life knowledge (cheap shot;)) and still would seem to have ideals of an 1800's type of mindset. This doesn't mirror real life at all and if anything it just shows some great concepts put into practice extremely well, get the **** over it.
he also believes that videogames can't be art >,>
he also believes that videogames can't be art >,>http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4691/fuuuuuuuu.jpg
HarryTiger
21 Apr 2010, 17:14
he also believes that videogames can't be art >,>
No but a **** on a pedestal can be. Actually I wonder how he feels about those avant garde style films with incest, bestiality and lolitas and all that.
Anyone who chooses to be offended by that, should harden the **** up.
....in an MA rated movie flagged as having violence and language.
That's not the point though.
The point is that an ELEVEN YEAR OLD is saying the c word. Which many deem the most inappropriate word you can say.
ELEVEN YEAR OLD.
ELEVEN YEAR.
ELEVEN.
HarryTiger
21 Apr 2010, 17:33
I'm just not putting 2 and 2 together in the same way you are. The C word is the C word and it sounds pretty much the same from the 11 year old as it does the adult. And as for "11 year olds shouldn't be saying the C word", ummm, it's a fictional adult movie not a etiquette training video!
I'm just not putting 2 and 2 together in the same way you are. The C word is the C word and it sounds pretty much the same from the 11 year old as it does the adult. And as for "11 year olds shouldn't be saying the C word", ummm, it's a fictional adult movie not a etiquette training video!
You don't seem to understand the ethical principles of the situation though.
Eleven year olds shouldn't be swearing, let alone saying the c word.
Not that I'm a prude, to be honest I don't even care. But people telling people they need to harden the **** up after an 11 year old repeatedly says the c word is a bit of a joke.
She's actually 12 (ok so she was 11 at the time, but really, does it make much of a difference?).:cool:
And anyone who wasn't saying that word at that age themselves would almost be a hypocrite I'd suggest. I'll admit I was saying that amongst a ton more naughty words.:o
It really wasn't that bad and it's just a friggen word, the movie is rated appropriately and there are plenty of websites to check exactly what is in this movie that would make it unacceptable for a kid. If you don't think they're ready to see/hear what's there, DON'T TAKE THEM!
Also Kerrby, you need to see the movie, she didn't say it "repeatedly" it was once and it was the one shown in the Red Band Trailer (unless I missed her saying it more than that, which as far as I know I didn't).
midorigreenwood
21 Apr 2010, 18:17
when did the c word become worse than the mf word?
edit: funny enough work filter blocks c word but mf is alright >,>;;
Toshowyouwhy
21 Apr 2010, 18:19
She's actually 12 (ok so she was 11 at the time, but really, does it make much of a difference?).:cool:
And anyone who wasn't saying that word at that age themselves would almost be a hypocrite I'd suggest. I'll admit I was saying that amongst a ton more naughty words.:o
It really wasn't that bad and it's just a friggen word, the movie is rated appropriately and there are plenty of websites to check exactly what is in this movie that would make it unacceptable for a kid. If you don't think they're ready to see/hear what's there, DON'T TAKE THEM!
Also Kerrby, you need to see the movie, she didn't say it "repeatedly" it was once and it was the one shown in the Red Band Trailer (unless I missed her saying it more than that, which as far as I know I didn't).
No you're right, it was just once, and I must admit, I got a giddy little thrill out of it :D
Not that I care, but why is it horrendous for an 11 year old to say a word, but somehow more acceptable for her to slit someones throat, or even just be in the presence of all those weapons??
It's a movie.
Jonesy1987
21 Apr 2010, 18:37
You don't seem to understand the ethical principles of the situation though.
Eleven year olds shouldn't be swearing, let alone saying the c word.
Not that I'm a prude, to be honest I don't even care. But people telling people they need to harden the **** up after an 11 year old repeatedly says the c word is a bit of a joke.
Get your facts right first, she says it once.
Haven't spoken to the average 8 year old lately? Crying about it isn't going to change anything.
The irony is, the conservatives that cry about these things, are the very same that empower it, by parading its taboo nature all over the media, it simply increases its appeal.
Get your facts right first, she says it once.
Haven't spoken to the average 8 year old lately? Crying about it isn't going to change anything.
The irony is, the conservatives that cry about these things, are the very same that empower it, by parading its taboo nature all over the media, it simply increases its appeal.
"Crying about it". In that very post you quoted I said that I don't care.
Put it this way. If your 11 year old daughter came up to you and said the c word, what exactly would you do? Brush it off or bring it to attention?
Jonesy1987
21 Apr 2010, 19:46
"Crying about it". In that very post you quoted I said that I don't care.
Put it this way. If your 11 year old daughter came up to you and said the c word, what exactly would you do? Brush it off or bring it to attention?
You say you don't care then carry on like its a war crime.
If it was my daughter I'd correct her, but the fact is its not my daughter, You or I have no social responsibility or the right to act like the protector of innocence.
Why do you think children shouldn't swear and what do you think is the detrimental effect of this girl swearing?
kane249
21 Apr 2010, 19:50
"Crying about it". In that very post you quoted I said that I don't care.
Put it this way. If your 11 year old daughter came up to you and said the c word, what exactly would you do? Brush it off or bring it to attention?
Bring it to her attention if your a responsible parent and teaching your parents proper values.
HOWEVER, as a parent you should be teaching your kids these values and a proper upbringing long before they go and see something like that in the cinema. Kids should be taught by the parents that just because they see something on TV/in a movie/in the media it's ok for them to mimic them.
As for the movie itself it was freakin awesome! One that's definitely come out of left field and reminded me a bit of Zombieland at times with the way it put a different spin on a genre that's been done many times before.
Valentino Dmitri
21 Apr 2010, 20:15
Quite liked it :thumbsu:
It seemed a bit confused about what it was trying to say and how it tried to say it. Didn't like the narration much. Didn't go much on the emotional sucker punches either, didn't buy the odd DRAMA moment they would throw into a scene every now and then, seemed a bit tacky
But apart from that! Hit Girl, not much i can say that hasn't already been said. Lots of fun. Some pretty good jokes and some of the action scenes were really well shot (The Big Daddy cleaning house scene and the FPS one I really liked especially)
Great way to spend an evening, very fun :thumbsu:
Not the kinda film to take the missus to, unless she's uber-cool.
lol! my lady friend is dragging me to the cinema to go and see it
Toshowyouwhy
21 Apr 2010, 22:34
lol! my lady friend is dragging me to the cinema to go and see it
haha yeah it was mine's idea!! great result!!
red+black
21 Apr 2010, 23:30
Re Hit-Girl swearing, I wouldn't have thought she was portraying your average Grade 6 11yo girl. If it was a family film and an 11yo girl swore like Hit-Girl, then sure, that would be different.
But Hit-Girl has not had a standard upbringing and we can't expect her to have a standard set of morals and ethics.
hit-girl swearing makes it funny, its a little girl swearing and killing people.
children are not supposed to watch the movie, children are supposed to learn swears in the school yard and on the footy field.
Basically, Hit-Girl is playing every lead man role in an action movie as that was her upbringing. Such as to why she swears a few times and shows zero emotion to chopping off legs and shooting a bunch of guys in the face over and over again.
She's not meant to be a real brought up girl with any sort of morals.
And to the question of if it was my kid, of course you'd say something to them. But as said it's not my kid and I certainly wouldn't be taking them if I thought the content was out of their age range (which is why the movie is rated an MA15+ in Aus and R in the US).
Also AFAIK the parents of all underage kids in movies have to accept to the kids performing whatever it is they are needed to perform and have to be present while shooting as well. So they think it's ok, so why can't we?
Hawthorn United
22 Apr 2010, 13:33
Because in our society, there's always a group of people wanting to have a whinge. Usually it's the same groups that allow TV and the public parent their children. Blaming being obese due to marketing of fast food etc etc.
King Elvis
22 Apr 2010, 16:47
Kick Ass himself was a bitch.
Went and watched it tnoight and loved it. Was awesome.
No doubt hit girl is the star of the movie, the scenes she is in you just know something good is going to happen, and when she isn't there you are waiting for her to appear.
Shaucob_Burjan
25 Apr 2010, 01:53
Saw it last night... sick movie.
I agree with everyone, Hit-Girl was awesome!
HIMYM girl was a hottie.
I NEVER SAID BATMAN!!!
I am seriously getting old. I found Hit Girl disturbing. Hearing an 11 year old talk like that and then commit gruesome murder was not amusing to me at all. I can understand how the younger generation may find that "cool" but to me it was awful. Overall I didn't like it. A murderer is not a hero.
If you weren't a mod of this board I'd say something about you being like Roger Ebert...but I won't.
"A murderer is not a hero" though just makes me wonder what type of movies you are interested in? Have you never liked John MaClaine taking out ***** left, right and centre? Arnie carving up everyone and everything he see's? Sly Stallone doing the same only taking it to 11 when he does it in Rambo? If not, then I must say I pity you. They're only movies and fictional characters after all.
As I said, Hit-Girl was just a different take on that action movie hero. Being played by an 11/12 year old girl. And it was ****ing brilliant IMO.
If you weren't a mod of this board I'd say something about you being like Roger Ebert...but I won't.
"A murderer is not a hero" though just makes me wonder what type of movies you are interested in? Have you never liked John MaClaine taking out ***** left, right and centre? Arnie carving up everyone and everything he see's? Sly Stallone doing the same only taking it to 11 when he does it in Rambo? If not, then I must say I pity you. They're only movies and fictional characters after all.
As I said, Hit-Girl was just a different take on that action movie hero. Being played by an 11/12 year old girl. And it was ****ing brilliant IMO.
Well I am not as old as Roger Ebert by a long, long way. But I agree with everything he said about this movie.
Rambo, John McClain, and terminator are not trying to play superheroes. The context of their violence is fitting for those movies.
As Old Roger himself says:
Will I seem hopelessly square if I find “Kick-Ass” morally reprehensible and will I appear to have missed the point? Let's say you're a big fan of the original comic book, and you think the movie does it justice. You know what? You inhabit a world I am so very not interested in.
But I have not attacked you or said I would attack you because you liked the movie and I didn't. I just stated an opinion about the film. You are the one saying if I wasn't a mod then it would be gloves off for you. Really? Why do you care so much over one persons opinion? Are you so insecure?:rolleyes:
Well I am not as old as Roger Ebert by a long, long way. But I agree with everything he said about this movie.
Rambo, John McClain, and terminator are not trying to play superheroes. The context of their violence is fitting for those movies.
But I have not attacked you or said I would attack you because you liked the movie and I didn't. I just stated an opinion about the film. You are the one saying if I wasn't a mod then it would be gloves off for you. Really? Why do you care so much over one persons opinion? Are you so insecure?:rolleyes:Not at all. I just think looking at the movie in that kind of way just shows that you seem to be a bit out of touch and maybe just looking at it in the wrong light.
While those 3 aren't "trying to be superhero's" and it apparently fits for those type of movies, what exactly makes it not fit for THIS type of movie. It's completely within the realms of this particular world. Which is this wacky, off centre look on life and what it would be like with zero powered super hero's. In a way as well, Hit-Girl isn't necessarily trying to be a "superhero" just creating an outlet to take out the bad guys in the world, targeting those that deserve death just as much as those in movies like Die Hard, Terminator, Rambo, etc. Remember, the motivation for Hit-Girl and Big Daddy is completely different to that of Kick-Ass.
What'd you think of movies like Wanted or Sin City? Both of those have the same wacky off centre look at life.
How about something like Dexter? Which uses that justification of "Killing serial killers" as it's reason for the 'anti-hero'.
I just have a feeling you're taking it a bit too seriously and this really isn't exactly what this world is wanting and baying for. FWIW the creators of this particular project see's one in his 40's and the other in his 50's, so they could hardly be considered mirror images of "this world". I just see Roger Ebert's views as elitist more than 'square'.
Do you just not like the movie/her because Hit-Girl is 11/12 year's old?
The movie started with a lot promise and I liked the high school awkwardness of the main character etc and the early scenes. But the third act was disturbing and very dark. Maybe that was the point. But watching an 11 year old girl kill people with no moral repercussions and then see her get beat up, and then not to mention the foul language coming from her. Well I didn't find that cool or hip or even funny. It was just not my thing.
Jeffers
25 Apr 2010, 21:19
Did you not see Hit-Girl's red band trailer Catman? I saw that first and i definitely knew what i was expecting in regards to Hit-Girl.
maybe she wasn't as bad as "Lick My Taint Girl" from another movie LOL
Admiral Afterworld
27 Apr 2010, 15:57
Nic Cage doing the Adam West impersonation was a bit of a throw off though and made him seem a bit more douchey than anything.
Oh, I guess you're only familiar with the new Batman movies. Michelle Pfeiffer...ha...the only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Merriwether or Eartha Kitt. And I didn't need a molded plastic suit to improve my physique *taps chest* Pure West. And how come Batman doesn't dance anymore, remember the Bat-tussi?
Oh, I guess you're only familiar with the new Batman movies. Michelle Pfeiffer...ha...the only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Merriwether or Eartha Kitt. And I didn't need a molded plastic suit to improve my physique *taps chest* Pure West. And how come Batman doesn't dance anymore, remember the Bat-tussi?**** no dude. I was basically inferring that West is the only guy who can do that syle of speak. I didn't think Cage pulled it off as well as he could've, thus a bit douchey.
AW on Fam Guy is the king. I loved the old Batman show, used to have them on tapes and watched them a lot.
**** no dude. I was basically inferring that West is the only guy who can do that syle of speak. I didn't think Cage pulled it off as well as he could've, thus a bit douchey.
AW on Fam Guy is the king. I loved the old Batman show, used to have them on tapes and watched them a lot.
He's referring to one of AW's lines on The Simpsons mate. Funny cameo too. :thumbsu:
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/polls/74444_1209583606197_100.jpg
He's referring to one of AW's lines on The Simpsons mate. Funny cameo too. :thumbsu:
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/polls/74444_1209583606197_100.jpgAh yes. I remember that one now.:o:p
I am seriously getting old. I found Hit Girl disturbing. Hearing an 11 year old talk like that and then commit gruesome murder was not amusing to me at all. I can understand how the younger generation may find that "cool" but to me it was awful. Overall I didn't like it. A murderer is not a hero.
I liked the movie a fair bit better than the comics/graphic novel/whatever euphemism you want but the ending of the comic book really sold what a tragedy Hit Girl's childhood really was and really played up the fact that she got it back.
The story is meant to be a semi realistic take on what super heroes would be if they were true. They wouldn't have Batman like no-killing rules. Perhaps that is an aspect of the story that didn't get out well, that Hit Girl/Big Daddy aren't really heroes just because they dress up as superheroes. I can't really recall if the book really got that out either. However with Big Daddy it turns out the story about him being a former cop was bs he made up to brainwash Hit Girl, and he's just an accountant who wanted to be a superhero like kick ass did (also he was funded through his comic book collection worth millions which is a bit far fetched).
So many movies "glorify murderers" (I hate those terms glorifying violence) it's a bit weird they've decided to take offence with this movie. Look at the Godfather trilogy, you don't sit and watch that and think "what a despicable bunch of men I want to see them all fall on their swords", you start to care about the characters and are interested in what is happening to them.
he also believes that videogames can't be art >,>
He qualified it saying they can't be his "definition" of art, yet he also encouraged people to prove him wrong :rolleyes:
Just because you don't rate the medium, doesn't make it not art. For me art is the creation of anything designed to affect the senses of someone, as opposed to something designed for a purely functional purpose (although a product can be functional and art in it's design).
Re Hit-Girl swearing, I wouldn't have thought she was portraying your average Grade 6 11yo girl. If it was a family film and an 11yo girl swore like Hit-Girl, then sure, that would be different.
But Hit-Girl has not had a standard upbringing and we can't expect her to have a standard set of morals and ethics.
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Saw this movie about a month ago and I wasn't a fan (more in a moment). I hadn't got around to posting earlier but I have heard a few kudos recently about KickAss and it reminded me to post here.
I love my superhero/comic type flicks. I am not a comic book collector or anything to that level, but I have always loved these type of flicks (as well as comedies) since as a 10yo I 1st saw Superman catch Lois Lane and then the falling helicopter. From then on everything from Billy Zane in The Phantom to The Rocketeer to The Dark Knight... my all-time favourite/perfect hero movie bieng Batman Begins. Outside that I love my comedies (weird ones too) after being bought up on Monty Python movies and glorious originals of the 80s... right through to Ali G and Borat.
I hired it with mixed expectations: I purposely didn't read up much on it, so things weren't spoiled... but I knew it was getting good reviews. All I knew is it was apparently a "more realistic" take on the hero type story... let me say that again... it was a "more realistic" take on the hero type story.
So cue <PLAY> and sit back... the movie even opens with some dodgy guy thinking he is a hero leaping off a tall building hoping his flying costume will give him flight... we know how that ends. And here is my "beef" with this movie... at the very start the main actor narrates and tells us that this is no movie about a hero having super powers like superman or endless funds/gadgets like a batman. Just a normal teenager who is tired of crime and wants to make a stand.
Fill in 70 mins of screen time with teenage angst, crime lord backstories, trial and error and whatever... yeah Hit Girl had her awesomeness. Loved her action scenes but I too found her dialog too colourful it detracted from the movie.
Ok so we get to the end and the following is how our so-called "everyday" and more realistic hero has changed over the course of the movie:
- an earlier beating and subsequent surgery now means his nerve endings are damaged and he barely feels pain.
- he has teamed up with a well funded and well trained Father & Daughter combo... basically Batman and Batgirl lite... who do much of the "hero" work.
- he straps on a jet pack armed with mini mini-guns and he lays waste to all he can.
And that is what I found hard to stomach from KickAss... it backs itself in as being a "normal" take on superhero, but in reality the superhero is anything but normal in the end. Normal doesn't save the day... you need a combination of either super powers, super abilities, super training, super gadgets and/or super budgets to save the day.
It is a movie that doesn't know what it wants to be.
I would much rather go and watch Kill Bill where director knows The Bride is a kick ass assasin out for revenge, American Pie where the nerdy teenager is just trying to get laid, and Batman Begins where a really rich guy decides to train and fund himself to take on the bad guys.
cheers.
It's more realistic in that no one has super powers but it doesn't really pretend to be overly realistic. The comic is more realistic in it's violence, i.e. Kick-Ass' is always severely swollen, there is no jet pack etc (although there's a more unrealistic part in it where big daddy is not an ex cop but a comic book fan who funds his crimefighting through his collection).
It's realistic compared to other superhero cliches like codes of honour, flamboyant villains, has more realistic violence and some would argue language. At the end of the day it's about a guy who wants to be a superhero.
The nerve endings thing wasn't played up that much in either medium.
If you want a good take of "what would happen if superheroes (of all types) really existed" then Watchmen really takes a good look at what would happen, especially in a political sense.
sherrinorburley
8 Jan 2011, 16:15
Went and watched it tnoight and loved it. Was awesome.
No doubt hit girl is the star of the movie, the scenes she is in you just know something good is going to happen, and when she isn't there you are waiting for her to appear.
Just caught this film. Enjoyed it as much as Defendor, plenty of laughs.
Surprised to see Cage in a decent film.
any idea when it will be on showtime premiere or movie one?
ChrisFooty
9 Jan 2011, 20:48
One of the best films of 2010, way better than the overrated Spiderman.