View Full Version : Who Would Be The Best Replacement For Gilchrist!
Im not doubt gilly for a minute. I like him and rate him alot!
But if Gilly was to get injured and need to be rested who would be the best standby keeper to stand up!
I would say Brad Haddin as he plays alot like Gilchirst a touch. He can opening bat as well.
Richmondfan#1
19 Dec 2000, 17:32
I have heard of Berry. He is a very good wicketkeeper but that's all i know!
walshy1993
19 Dec 2000, 18:29
i dont think there is to much doubt that berry is the best keeper going around
even better than gilchrist
but obviously the selectors are looking for someone who bats, this side of berry's game is good but not to the standards of gilchrist
i think they have done the right thing going this way
mags ryan campbell is the next keeper in line
he can bat
and has an acb contract so obviously the selectors hold him in high regard and see him as the next best thing
Grendel
19 Dec 2000, 19:18
Agree Walshy, most everyone who knows acknowledge that Berrys the best keeper in the Country and by some way too. But his batting though improved still falls short of what the selectors require. If Gillie were to miss a test for injury or whatever, it wouldnt suprise me to see Ponting take the gloves for a single test. Anymore than that they would bring in someone else though.
Wayde Seccumbe from Queensland would get the job if Gilly got injured.
I know Berry is the best keeper in the country! And i have wanted him to get in the test side for a while now but i dont see that happeining.
Ryan Campbell is also a class act as well but he doesnt seem ready for International duties. Campbell isnt even a real keeper he is a stand in one for Gilchirst when he isnt able to play domestic cricket.
Saying Ryan Campbell is like saying Ponting or Langer should Keep. Coz they can both do wicketkeeping.
Im sticking with Haddin with wanting Berry too.
Mags
Wade Seccombe is the second best keeper in the country.He's a good batter as well.
Berry bats like McGrath.
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GoEagles
20 Dec 2000, 05:42
It will be interesting to see who the ACB selectors pick as the reserve wicket keeper to England. I'm so used to seeing a WA keeper being the reserve so it will be good to see Gilly in the Number 1 spot this time.
I think Wade Seccombe will get the nod, purely on his experience at Shield level...however Berry did travel to England last time so he'd definately be in with a chance. Haddin's a roughie but I think he'd be more of a realistic chance in 2003. Ryan Campbell is more suited to one day cricket as an explosive opener, he might take over Mark Waughs role when he retires or fill in for Gilchrist if he's ill.
How bias are you bloody victorians, you think elliot should be in the side ahead of hayden and you think that berry is a better wicketkeeper then seccombe, if you have seen much of shield cricket courtesy of going to games or optus vision you would realise that seccombe is probably the most talented keeper the australian first class scene has ever encountered, i know that is a big wrap, but by god you should see this bloke keep, and his batting is underratted but he always has a happy knack of scoring runs when there needed, a bit like healy.
Acuguy
Take a closer look at who people from Vic nominated.
We said Seccombe,Haddin or Campbell.
Ya goose !!!!!!!!!!!
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I am talking mainly in reference to walshy and his little mob, i cannot believe campbell is even getting a mention, at the moment he cannot score a run and was replaced as the second keeper for wa, you would know this if you guys were upto date with the current happenings in the pura cup, a bloke by the name of walsh is keeping for the sandgropers
eastaugh36
20 Dec 2000, 11:39
although he wont be considered in the near future a long term aussie keeper in the making is Graham Manou from the redbacks, the guy can bat well too and has leadership qualities out on the field, last keeper from sa to play for the aussies was flipper phillips
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walshy1993
20 Dec 2000, 14:26
Originally posted by acuguy:
I am talking mainly in reference to walshy and his little mob, i cannot believe campbell is even getting a mention, at the moment he cannot score a run and was replaced as the second keeper for wa, you would know this if you guys were upto date with the current happenings in the pura cup, a bloke by the name of walsh is keeping for the sandgropers
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read what i said
berry is the best keeper
one thing that made healy the keeper he was was the ability he had to keep to warne
berry is at a similar level
campbell has a acb contract, true, so obviously the selectors have him in mind, stay with me here for crying out loud
if you think vics are biased for wanting elliott in the team doesnt that make you equally biased for saying hayden should be, and by saying seccombe is better than berry your contridicting yourself
berry, experience, been to england, kept to warne, miller
seccombe, minimal experience, keeps to average bowlers on a wicket that does nothing beyond day one
I agree, it would have to be Berry despite batting being the main weakness. He is a great keeper.
Campbell has an ACB contract? News to me - I thought there were only 25 with them - and he wasn't one of the chosen. Haddin would get the nod - he's already played for Australia A. Plus he's from NSW..........
I'm 99% sure Campbell doesn't have an ACB contract. Also thought there were only 25.
I'm hoping they won't have to pick a replacement for Gilchrist - he's a star! But, as a reserve to Gilchrist - Seccombe. Probably too soon for Haddin.
walshy, what are u talking about, campbell with an acb contract, once again u are showing your lack of knowledge. The reason behind my placing of the qld players over the vic players are due to them being better players at the moment, i have a lot of respect for both berry and elliot but after watching a hell of a lot of cricket i know they are below the other two at the moment, just like i cannot wait for fleming to come back into the aussie side ahead of bichel, just as i would rate katich ahead of maher or love, not because of the papers i have read or what is on the news, but because i have watched a lot of katich batting, and he is extremely well organised.
I am a real cricket fanatic , play a lot of it, discuss it and watch and learn as much as i can, my opinions aren't based on state loyalty.
walshy1993
21 Dec 2000, 16:55
ok campbell doesnt have a current acb contract
the reason i came to this conclusion was because campbell was at the training camp in bris before the test series, which was meant to be only contracted players
considering there is no other keeper contracted its a pretty positive sign for campbell wouldnt u think
oh and acuguy you just continue to disagree with everything i say ok
just for the record i know a little bit about this
go have a look at baggygreen, click on players on the left hand side menu, when the new screen comes up scroll all the way down
look at the name of the person on the bottom right and see if you can put two and two together
(for the record acuguy 2 and 2 equals 4)
[This message has been edited by walshy1993 (edited 20 December 2000).]
So your Mike Walsh, well i am embarrassed that the australian cricket side has employed someone who is unprofessional enough to air his opinions publicly on a forum and then is stupid enough to say who he actually is. Obvioulsy you would also know that seccombe was also in attendance at that camp at the beggining of the season. Wow your lack of insight really does worry me, maybe your job is mainly as cricket scorer, which is basically a data entry job isn't it.
Also Brad Haddin and Wade Seccombe were in attendance at that training camp Walshy or did u forget to meanch that?
Here is a list of one day batting averages for leading Australian Wicketkeepers:
Haddin - 34.15
Seccombe - 23.35
*Campbell - 21.61
Deitz - 4.50
Berry - 15.61
Tell me everyone who gets the one day spot?
Plz Note * Campbell is the 2nd to Gilchirst in wa and he would not be the next stand in keeper!
Mags
MAGS
Deitz isn't the SA wicketkeeper.Its Manou.[just helping you out http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif]
I don't think Ryan Campbell has been wickie in all WA games this year[when Gilchrist isn't playing].I don't know the third wickie's name.
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Would u believe that the keeper for wa when gilchrist is away is named WALSH
how about the first class averages
Thanks Jub Jub! http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Manou and Deitz are both shit sa cricketers anyway so it doesnt matter!Manou has an average of 8.40! Not much higher then Deitz anyway.
I got another stat too R.Campbell's Ave For This Season Is only 9 Runs! And he has a HS of 13 in one dayers this season!
[This message has been edited by Mags (edited 21 December 2000).]
walshy1993
22 Dec 2000, 17:18
Originally posted by acuguy:
So your Mike Walsh, well i am embarrassed that the australian cricket side has employed someone who is unprofessional enough to air his opinions publicly on a forum and then is stupid enough to say who he actually is. Obvioulsy you would also know that seccombe was also in attendance at that camp at the beggining of the season. Wow your lack of insight really does worry me, maybe your job is mainly as cricket scorer, which is basically a data entry job isn't it.
not me, its my uncle
mags, look i never said that campbell is the best person for the job
i dont think he is
berry is without a doubt the best keeper in the country and should get the test duties if gilly got injured
and i think haddin should take the one day honours
im just putting looking at the whole equation and going on what ive been told by someone who has a little to do with it
mags i dont know if haddin or seccombe were there, i can find out tomorrow, all i know is that campbell definatly was
i think the reason campbell is considered for the one day position is that he, like gilchrist is an aggressive opening batsman
put two and two together and i got 4, but i think the answer was 5 don't u walshy, my apologies to your uncle though, i did not realise that he was not responsible for your stupid comments, and YES SECCOMBE WAS THERE ON THE CAMP. News flash walshy i am also well aware that haddin is ratedly highly by the australian selectors and what i also know is that is firmly based on his batting ability, but i feel with in myself that seccombe is the best keeper in australia and i would think he should be the next chosen keeper if there was an injury, though in saying that, i think the selectors might go for haddin on his potential rather then performances ala higgs.
johnson
30 Dec 2000, 09:05
OK let's clear up some facts!!
When Gilly is away from WA, Walsh plays in the Pura games, Campbell keeps in the Merc Mutual.
To seriously think Campbell could be a good test keeper if an injury to the great and marvellous Adam Gilchrist occurs is silly based on Campbo's current form.
Berry's keeping skills are good but to be an all-rounder is necessary in this day and age so I doubt he'd get the nod. I don't doubt his skill though, he's done well.
Haddin is not a great keeper, good but not great. Might be an option for the limited overs games.
Manou is good but not a standout.
I think Seccombe is the man for the tests. His keeping skills are excellent and he bats better than Berry. A better all-round choice I suspect.
Oh yeah, to all of those who think that Gilchrist isn't a great keeper, get a grip. His catching skills are superb, I can only remember a couple of dropped catches. Yes he let a few byes thru but overall, he's kept brilliantly to the quicks and well to the spinners. He's no Healy or Marsh but he's right up there. His record for dismissals in NZ last year (one-dayers) was amazing. 7 dismissals in an innings wasn't it???
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Respect. Keep the peace.
johnson - i like the way you think!
But - Gilchrest will surpass Healy & Marsh..