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blackdiamond
22 May 2003, 23:57
I heard Bucky on 5AA tonight and he made mention that all teams in the AFL are to wear their traditional colours in Round 19.

As I understand it Port Adelaide will be pushing to wear the old Black and White Prison Bars.

This should make for great viewing against Carlton at AAMI Stadium.

Ray Nolan
23 May 2003, 00:06
BRILLIANT!!!!! We should wear the old black & white prison bars all the time anyway, just change it for the Collingwood away game. Fingers crossed that we can wear our real guernsey. :)

Pred
23 May 2003, 00:59
As much as I have lost taste for the SANFL, I still love the old prison bars, and would be full of pride to see our boys running around out there in them. Bring it on!

sog35
23 May 2003, 10:00
The funniest part was Cornes Senior's reaction.

First the threat of pulling Kane and Chad out of the club and then talking over KG's next advert, trying to say the traditional colours of the club were the old old old Port Pink and Grey (or whatever colours they were).

I may not be a Magpies supporter but I would like to see the boys run out for just once in the Prison Bars, I know it would make my immediate Port supporting family and a lot of other people very happy if for just one game they got to see the "Old Magpies" running round in the big leauge.

Mudholian
23 May 2003, 10:12
Well that's great and no doubt we'll have a lot of posts about how much pride we have in Port's grand traditions and culture etc etc. Of course practising it, and living up to it, are something entirely different.

Horace
23 May 2003, 10:23
Would be terrific if this comes off. Good luck to all Port supporters with this one.

kaysee
23 May 2003, 10:25
Is it just the colours or is it also traditional gurnseys???

Would love to see them in the old Prison Bars, but it wouldn't be the same if the Bars were simply printed on our current gurnset material. Only way for it to be effective is to have the lace ups.

I think if they gave us the go ahead to use the traditional PB lace-ups against Carlton we would get around 45-50k to the game.

The only thing better then this would be if that swapped it from round 19 to round 22. Imagine that our home showdown and seeing Port in their PB LUs against The Crows.... agghhh I can only dream. :)

SKC

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 12:41
I hope it does happen and I will be more than interested in hearing the explanations (or should I say bull****) from those idiots on these boards that continually harp on about the PAFC being a new club.

Not sure about the lace-ups though as I think they may actually be banned under AFL rules. I know the SANFL tried to do the same thing a few years ago but somehow we got around it.

DaveW
23 May 2003, 14:33
Originally posted by dreamkillers
I hope it does happen and I will be more than interested in hearing the explanations (or should I say bull****) from those idiots on these boards that continually harp on about the PAFC being a new club. So wearing the old Port guernsey indicates they're the same Port? Funny how you don't use the same logic for the current Magpies.

koulagirl22
23 May 2003, 14:38
Originally posted by DaveW
So wearing the old Port guernsey indicates they're the same Port? Funny how you don't use the same logic for the current Magpies.

The thing is, the Power are the same Port, whereas the Magpies merely fill the gap in the SANFL.

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 14:42
Originally posted by DaveW
So wearing the old Port guernsey indicates they're the same Port? Funny how you don't use the same logic for the current Magpies.

How about sticking to the facts.

They will be wearing their own traditional jumper that was passed on to the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (est. in 1996) to abide by the SANFL's mandate that a club representing Port Adelaide remains in the SANFL.

Nothing funny at all with the logic.........although the idiot reference seems quite applicable to your post..........

DaveW
23 May 2003, 14:46
I just question how this supports your argument. The Magpies wear the traditional guernsey all the time and yet they're a new club. The Power wear it once and it apparently adds weight to the argument that they're an old club. :confused:

PAfolwr
23 May 2003, 14:51
Originally posted by DaveW
I just question how this supports your argument. The Magpies wear the traditional guernsey all the time and yet they're a new club. The Power wear it once and it apparently adds weight to the argument that they're an old club. :confused:
Keep trying.
You might even eventually con yourself into believing it one day.

DaveW
23 May 2003, 14:55
Note that I wasn't even bringing up the old argument; simply asking how this changes anything. :o

Pred
23 May 2003, 15:48
Originally posted by DaveW
I just question how this supports your argument. The Magpies wear the traditional guernsey all the time and yet they're a new club. The Power wear it once and it apparently adds weight to the argument that they're an old club. :confused: Sigh. If you'd stop trying to pick holes in everything you might understand where we are coming from.

Regardless of whether or not the Power are technically a new club, the fact that they would be running around in the prison bars (which no other club in the AFL has the right to do for that game, including Collingwood), would be a public display of our link to our magpie past, a link of which are all proud. Enough said.

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 17:06
Originally posted by DaveW
I just question how this supports your argument. The Magpies wear the traditional guernsey all the time and yet they're a new club. The Power wear it once and it apparently adds weight to the argument that they're an old club. :confused:

Well it's pretty simple.....if we were indeed a new club why would we be wearing the guernsey that has represented the club for the majority of it's history.


As the Port Adelaide Magpie Football Club was established in 1996 how do you support your argument that they are the traditional owners of a guernsey that has been round for decades longer than the club itself.

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 17:08
Originally posted by DaveW
Note that I wasn't even bringing up the old argument; simply asking how this changes anything. :o

It actually doesn't change anything........it just shows the facts.

DaveW
23 May 2003, 17:19
Originally posted by dreamkillers
Well it's pretty simple.....if we were indeed a new club why would we be wearing the guernsey that has represented the club for the majority of it's history.


As the Port Adelaide Magpie Football Club was established in 1996 how do you support your argument that they are the traditional owners of a guernsey that has been round for decades longer than the club itself. See this is what I don't like. Not that you link the Power to the old Magpies, but that you pretend the current Magpies have nothing to do the old Magpies.

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 17:35
Originally posted by DaveW
See this is what I don't like. Not that you link the Power to the old Magpies, but that you pretend the current Magpies have nothing to do the old Magpies.

No I don't pretend that at all.......the current Magpies were formed as a requirement by the SANFL from the Port Adelaide Football Club's entry into the AFL.

I'll repeat it again for you as you seem to always miss this point.......

The Port Adelaide Magpies carry on the tradition of a Port Adelaide club participating in the SANFL


How the f*** do you interpret that to say that I pretend the current Magpies have nothing to do with the old Magpies........

DaveW
23 May 2003, 17:48
The insistence that they only came about in 1996 or 1997 springs to mind or that they apparently only have 2 premierships. :rolleyes:

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 18:03
Originally posted by DaveW
The insistence that they only came about in 1996 or 1997 springs to mind or that they apparently only have 2 premierships. :rolleyes:

The insistence or the fact that there was no Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club competing in the SANFL prior to 1997.

Yes the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club do only have 2 premierships which is clearly shown on the honourboard in the social club at Alberton that is shared by both clubs.

Keep digging your hole...........as you've yet to back up one point you've made with any actual facts.

DaveW
23 May 2003, 18:22
Been done to death before. :o

dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 19:02
Originally posted by DaveW
Been done to death before. :o

Yep and you keep going round in circles with baseless claims......:rolleyes:

mic59
23 May 2003, 20:22
Don't kill yourself on this one, DK. Arguing with a Cos supporter is like arguing with your mother, you never win even when you're 100% right. ;)

Port Adelaide 1870
23 May 2003, 22:11
Originally posted by DaveW
Been done to death before. :o

yep, but you ask the questions...are given the answers....then ignore the fact and put some sort of yawning/sleepy smilet and say its been done before..

dont ask the question if you cant accept reality..

Answer me a couple of really simple questions.

what was the name of the Club playing in the SANFL prior to 1996.

What is the name of the Club playing in the AFL now

What is the name of the Club formed expressly for the SANFL, to continue the PAFC tradition as of 1997 in the SANFL?

PA1870

tess
23 May 2003, 22:13
simple you want the pafc to play in the black and white ...... go back to the sanfl.

your in the afl now your mascot is the power..... collingwood are the magpies here little men.

Port Adelaide 1870
23 May 2003, 22:13
This is simply going to be Huge for the club..wearing our old SANFL guernsey....simply Huge...

I cant begin to tell you how many people want us to wear this guernsey all the time at AFL level..

PA1870

fan4collingwood
23 May 2003, 22:18
As far as I knew Port Adelaide and Port Power are 2 separate clubs.
Port Power are the AFL club........no Port Adelaide in their name at all. so Heritage week should be the first jumper Port Power wore in their first match against the ONLY magpies in the AFL.

Can someone tell me what Port Adelaides first jumper was.......I think it was grey and pink.

Pred
23 May 2003, 23:01
Well you have no idea.

A simple check will show you the name of our club is

The Port Adelaide Football Club

Nickname - Power

Uncle Steve
23 May 2003, 23:08
If your mob was serious about maintaining some link with the original Port, it would wear blue and white hoops.

And Collingwood, for that matter, would wear red white and blue - I don't see how they can whinge about another club sporting black and white.

Curious that there is no discussion about this on the Collingwood board. Perhaps they see it for the non-issue that it is...

Horace
23 May 2003, 23:21
Well I'm an outsider here, but I believe it would be terrific to see Port playing in the traditional guernsey worn by Port in the SANFL, back before the Power came into the AFL. For the life of me I can't understand what all the bickering is about, the AFL will have the say in the final analysis.

I would just love to see that famous jumper run out in an AFL game and if that gives a few diehard Port Adelaide supporters a real buzz, then that is a bonus and good for the game.

For my part I hope that the Brisbane Lions run our in the traditional Fitzroy jumper. Would be terrific. (but I better not post that on the Brisbane board, I might start a furore)

Port Adelaide 1870
23 May 2003, 23:50
Originally posted by Uncle Steve
If your mob was serious about maintaining some link with the original Port, it would wear blue and white hoops.

And Collingwood, for that matter, would wear red white and blue - I don't see how they can whinge about another club sporting black and white.

Curious that there is no discussion about this on the Collingwood board. Perhaps they see it for the non-issue that it is...

Blue and white hoops have only been used in modern day representations of Ports first uniform.
The colours were Blue and white, however there has been conjecture and No present day records or old available records of Ports first Guernsey, apart from the colour.
an old photo of a Kadina Footballer taken around 1870 with hoops has been used many times to give an indication of the sumised appearance of Port Adelaide in its first year.

regards

PA1870

the fly
23 May 2003, 23:52
Originally posted by dreamkillers
Not sure about the lace-ups though as I think they may actually be banned under AFL rules. I know the SANFL tried to do the same thing a few years ago but somehow we got around it.

When the matches were played such that the 8 teams who played in the inaugural VFL Premiership season such that those teams that played each other in the first round played each other in re-enactment matches in 1996, the teams wore strips in which the lace ups were printed on the jerseys.

I reckon that the prison bars should be used because that is the most famous Port jersey. I hope to see the Swans in their South Melbourne V for that weekend.

Port Adelaide 1870
23 May 2003, 23:52
Originally posted by fan4collingwood
As far as I knew Port Adelaide and Port Power are 2 separate clubs.
Port Power are the AFL club........no Port Adelaide in their name at all. so Heritage week should be the first jumper Port Power wore in their first match against the ONLY magpies in the AFL.

Can someone tell me what Port Adelaides first jumper was.......I think it was grey and pink.

Sure Dufus !
Port Adelaide play in the AFL, PortMagpies in the SANFL since 1997...who are PortPower ?

Onya..:rolleyes:

PA1870

Nod
24 May 2003, 10:59
This is off the Port Adelaide Football Club web site.
Under History:
From that first game until 1877 Port Adelaide wore blue and white colours which they changed to a rose pink cap, guernsey and socks with white knickerbockers in 1878.

A further change was made in 1883 when we wore a magenta and blue cap, guernsey and hooped socks with navy blue knickerbockers. But in 1902 someone must have come to their senses, as we changed to the famous black and white colours.

tess
24 May 2003, 11:06
no discussion on the collingwood board because..... it will not happen.

as for our heritage, collingwood football club was formed out of a junior side called brittania, 1st fitzroy developed from that club, then collingwood. the day collingwood was formed as a club with its own identity we wore black and white stripes and our emlbem was the magpie.... from day one till now. we entered the victorian football association won a flag then when the victoria football league was formed we become a founding club.

cfc unlike the pafc has never been known as anything other than the black and white magpies, that is why we consider ourselves entittled to be the only black and white magpies within the afl



l hope we can keep this discussion friendly and reasonable, also sorry but l have a very sick caffine overdosed keybord.... l have lost caps and many other things..

Port Adelaide 1870
24 May 2003, 12:10
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tess
no discussion on the [b]collingwood board because..... it will not happen.

as for our heritage, collingwood football club was formed out of a junior side called brittania, 1st fitzroy developed from that club, then collingwood. the day collingwood was formed as a club with its own identity we wore black and white stripes and our emlbem was the magpie.... from day one till now. we entered the victorian football association won a flag then when the victoria football league was formed we become a founding club.

cfc unlike the pafc has never been known as anything other than the black and white magpies, that is why we consider ourselves entittled to be the only black and white magpies within the afl

Tess,

I certainly dont wish to appear rude, but what has a Collingwood reply have to do with an issue raised about the PAFC on the PAFC board......

Collingwood can remain the Magpies...thats their business....
I dont see a call for Port Adelaide to be known as the Magpies in the AFL?

Port Adelaides traditional colours are Black and White..thats life..we altered them to avert certain issues and to appease certain factions, to allow our ascent into the national league go without a hitch....

Now we are in the AFL, we can put forward any proposal we wish as to club colours..NOone can stop us from doing that....

regards

PA1870

P.S. Collingwoods "Famous Black and White " came about as a result of the visit to Adelaide in the early 1890's of a Collingwood/Brittania official as an invitation to the intercolonial game held here..
As a result of that visit and as impressed as he was by the uniform used by the SA state side at the time ( the strip Collingwood currently use) SA were also known as the piping shrikes ( white backed Magpies) the Collingwood official took back the concept to the fledgling VFA club and used S.A's state colours,guernsey and logo......

These events can be verified by the author of "Collingwood Forever", who gained some insight into the history of Collingwood by his association with the eminant sporting Historian ( the late) John Wood.

Port Adelaide FC est 1870

Collingwood FC est 1892

regards

PA1870

Macca19
24 May 2003, 13:14
Originally posted by tess



l hope we can keep this discussion friendly and reasonable, also sorry but l have a very sick caffine overdosed keybord.... l have lost caps and many other things..

Ok. Heres a friendly and reasonable (well i think its reasonable) question for you.

The AFL wants a traditional round where clubs where their traditional guernseys.

How does Port wearing its traditional black and white prison bar uniform which we wore for 94 years affect Collingwood in anyway? We dont play you in Round 19, we wont be changing our name full time to the Port Magpies, nor will we be wearing the guernsey again. So how does a one-off traditional round wearing our traditional black and white guernsey affect Collingwood so much?

I honestly can not see how it does nor do i see what the big uproar is. Its a one off for god sake.

This are the facts.

We wont be taking over Collingwoods Magpie emblem
We wont be using Collingwoods guernsey (our black and white guernsey is quite different to yours)
We wont be taking over the black and white guernsey full time.

I cant see how this cuases Collingwood supporters so much grief over a ONCE off.

Porthos
24 May 2003, 13:19
Originally posted by Macca19
I cant see how this cuases Collingwood supporters so much grief over a ONCE off. Well, I suppose if you don't see that they're the most precious supporters in the league, it might be tough to figure out :)

portly
24 May 2003, 13:32
I rate Graham Corne's brainpower - he's quite smart.

He continues to push the idea that PAFC are a NEW club, rather than the old PAFC entering a NEW and better national competition. He says that the new PAMFC are the old PAFC.

I cannot believe that he cannot see this that this is wrong.

So what is his agenda?

At the moment I am tempted to think that he is just being bloodyminded and pushing his own barrow, unable to move on from his Granger episode.

Any other ideas?

gbear
24 May 2003, 13:36
Originally posted by portly
I rate Graham Corne's brainpower - he's quite smart.

He continues to push the idea that PAFC are a NEW club, rather than the old PAFC entering a NEW and better national competition. He says that the new PAMFC are the old PAFC.

I cannot believe that he cannot see this that this is wrong.

So what is his agenda?

At the moment I am tempted to think that he is just being bloodyminded and pushing his own barrow, unable to move on from his Granger episode.

Any other ideas?

That both his sons may where the traditional Port Adelaide guernsey

mic59
24 May 2003, 13:39
Originally posted by portly
I rate Graham Corne's brainpower - he's quite smart.

He continues to push the idea that PAFC are a NEW club, rather than the old PAFC entering a NEW and better national competition. He says that the new PAMFC are the old PAFC.

I cannot believe that he cannot see this that this is wrong.

So what is his agenda?

At the moment I am tempted to think that he is just being bloodyminded and pushing his own barrow, unable to move on from his Granger episode.

Any other ideas?

No. That's basically it. The only other things would be that having both of his sons playing for Port, along with his ex-wifes' support for them must really rankle. But the explanation of a sour old man who can't forget past injustices is the correct one

Porthos
24 May 2003, 13:50
Originally posted by gbear
That both his sons may where the traditional Port Adelaide guernsey I believe that would be 100% of the issue as far as Graham is concerned.

Pred
24 May 2003, 18:38
Originally posted by portly
I rate Graham Corne's brainpower - he's quite smart.

At the moment I am tempted to think that he is just being bloodyminded and pushing his own barrow, unable to move on from his Granger episode.

Any other ideas? I've met him a few times. He's pretty bright. But he's just being bloodyminded. Serious case of Port envy (which comes out as all kinds of things).

sog35
24 May 2003, 19:58
It's definately a problem with his sons playing in Black and White. But basically who cares what Cornesy says? His comments only vaguely affect us as a national football entity.

Ray Nolan
25 May 2003, 00:08
Getting back to the issue of the traditional guernsey, we all know that most Port fans (myself included) want us to go back to the old Black & White prison bars. Now, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to do this, there are teams in the league that have the same colours (Geelong & Carlton for instance) and it doesn't seem to be a problem. Collingwood will whinge but they should just get themselves an away guernsey for when they play us. This is no attempt to take over the Magpie name or anything like that, just to go back to our real guernsey.

If Collingwood are too pig-headed to wear a mainly white away guernsey when they play us then they are more stupid than I thought. The training jumper they've had in the past that is white with the Magpie on the front would be perfect. It's good enough for other far more greater sporting clubs around the world to wear change/away kits so it should be for Collingwood. If Eddie McGuire is as progressive as his self-agrandissement would have everyone believe then this shouldn't be a problem for him.

If the AFL wouldn't let us have the black & white stripes then we should just add a teal stripe (black/white/teal, etc) to the prison bars. Maybe this is just my hobby horse because I don't think much of our home guernsey (always preferred the old away one - more B&W) but I think the club should seriously look at the issue of changing the jumper back to the traditional design. We did what we needed to do to get into the AFL, now we should reclaim our heritage by bringing back our traditional guernsey design. Personally I think we might even get a few more through the gate if we got back to it - that's how important it is.

mic59
25 May 2003, 00:53
Port Adelaide used to play Collingwood in practice matches and both teams wore their usual guernseys. There was never a colour clash, if you compare the two the Port one is nearly black and the Collingwood one is nearly white. Melbourne and Essendons' strips clash a lot more than Port and Collingwoods'.
The supporters never had a problem with it, they only do now because Eddie has led them by the nose and made up their own minds for them.

Porthos
25 May 2003, 00:54
The old Spicer's Paper Collingwood guernsey was a lot whiter, so there was less clash. There's more clash now, as the Collingwood away guernsey is very black

tess
25 May 2003, 02:01
This is not about Eddie FFS its about the Collingwood Football Clubs desire not to have another Black and White team in the AFL. If our President was Mrs Magoo we would expect the same words out of her mouth as we do from Eddies mouth.

Ever considered this is a big publicity stunt to get a crowd at a Port vs Collingwood game. Remember the last time these two teams played you couldn`t even get 30,000 there.

Port01
25 May 2003, 02:29
Originally posted by tess

Ever considered this is a big publicity stunt to get a crowd at a Port vs Collingwood game. Remember the last time these two teams played you couldn`t even get 30,000 there.

Remember that facts are always important when you are trying to mount an argument.

Both times we played last year the crowd was over 33k.

Last time we played in Melbourne, was however, under 30k.

Adrian Shelton
25 May 2003, 02:45
PLEASE wear them(the prison bars) Not from any love of the maggies but a need for all aussie rules fans to see what they where missing until 1997, and maybe even playing 'cheer cheer the black and the white ' when they get the 4pts(although i'd rather see Roger Rasheed exert his vaunted influence on the game after next weekends win againt the pie.. ahh the the britannia)

blackdiamond
25 May 2003, 02:47
Originally posted by tess
Ever considered this is a big publicity stunt to get a crowd at a Port vs Collingwood game. Remember the last time these two teams played you couldn`t even get 30,000 there.

There will be a big crowd on Friday night, publicity or no publicity.

The point you forget Tess is that the last time we played you was a final and the ticket prices were sky high. You can't just expect everybody that had a season ticket during the year to be able to afford a finals ticket.

I don't suppose you went to the game?

tess
25 May 2003, 13:15
Heritage hey ..... read this and weep!
http://www.footypedia.com/00002064.htm

gbear
25 May 2003, 13:35
Originally posted by tess
This is not about Eddie FFS its about the Collingwood Football Clubs desire not to have another Black and White team in the AFL. If our President was Mrs Magoo we would expect the same words out of her mouth as we do from Eddies mouth.


It is the fact that all AFL teams should have a home and away guernsey that is distinctively different from that of their home strip. It is time that Eddie realised that Collingwood are no longer playing in the VFL. A stands for Australian not Victorian. In actual fact when the Australian Football League was established it created a new entity that was seperate from the Victorian Football League, thus if Port Adelaide is not allowed to recognise its history and success since 1870 in the SANFL then why should Collingwood be allowed to crap on about their history in the VFL?

Port Adelaide 1870
25 May 2003, 14:08
Originally posted by tess
Heritage hey ..... read this and weep!
http://www.footypedia.com/00002064.htm

Which bit do we weep at ?

the bit that says the PAFC was formed in 1870, or the bit that says we joined the AFL in 1997..which bit ?

regards

PA1870

noddy
25 May 2003, 15:01
If only i could speak my mind on this subject without fear of retribution,

But what i will say is that the idea of you guys running around in a "Pink" jumper would be most becoming & probably enjoyable at that,

tess
25 May 2003, 15:23
Originally posted by Port Adelaide 1870
Which bit do we weep at ?

the bit that says the PAFC was formed in 1870, or the bit that says we joined the AFL in 1997..which bit ?

regards

PA1870

This bit ......
1870-77 - Port wore blue and white guernseys in its first 7 years. 1878 - Port changed their colours to pink and white.
1900s - Port Adelaide were known as the Magpies, and wore black and white vertical stripes, with a black yoke.
2001 - Port Adelaide are known as the Power, and wear a guernsey which is a combination of the colours, teal, black and white.

For your 1st 30 or so years you didn`t wear Black and White! You wanna talk heritage! Collingwood have never been anything but Black and White!

Spot the difference yet?

By the way we at the Pink Magpies don`t want you in Pink, Black and White either! hee hee.....

also found at your own wedsite http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=history&spg=display&articleid=11240
From that first game until 1877 Port Adelaide wore blue and white colours which they changed to a rose pink cap, guernsey and socks with white knickerbockers in 1878.

A further change was made in 1883 when we wore a magenta and blue cap, guernsey and hooped socks with navy blue knickerbockers. But in 1902 someone must have come to their senses, as we changed to the famous black and white colours.

Ray Nolan
25 May 2003, 15:45
So we didn't wear Black & White for a small portion of our history, big deal. We have worn Black & White for the overwhelming majority of our history and Port Adelaide and Black & White are synonymous with each other. For all Collingwood's bluster they cannot deny that glorious history. We made the concession by adding teal to our colours when, by right of our far superior success on the field the Black & White should've been stayed with us without question (we've won more Premierships than you lot have had showers)

All we Port fans want is the right to wear our traditional guernsey, just because we haven't worn that guernsey for a small portion of history should not deny us the right to wear it. It is our club that "upheld the Magpie name" with far more distinction than Collingwood ever have by setting Australian records on the field when it comes to winning Premierships. Even so, we are not looking to take the Magpie name, we don't begrudge Collingwood that (no matter how much we'd like to have it again) and it is theirs to use in the AFL. All we Port fans want is the right to wear our traditional guernsey, particularly at home where it is our right to wear whatever we want.

If Collingwood had not changed their guernsey in the last couple of seasons this colour clash wouldn't be an issue because the traditional Collingwood jumper has a lot more white than black in it. The whole issue of Collingwood changing their guernsey for away games at Port is not about Collingwood giving up the Black & White either. A mainly white guernsey with some black keeps the colours for Collingwood as they should. If Collingwood can change their home guernsey then I don't see why they can't make the change to an alternate Black & White strip where White is clearly the predominate colour. No Collingwood fans or official has provided a satisfactory reason as to why this shouldn't be so.

Next season, we will visit Collingwood with a predominately Silver (if the rumours are to be believed) away strip. We respect Collingwood's right to wear their Black & White striped jumper for their home game without question. Why can't Collingwood show the same respect for us by making a minor alteration to their alternate strip? If any Collingwood supporter can put a serious, believeable answer to that question then I am all ears ...

rubberman
25 May 2003, 23:37
Originally posted by tess
This bit ......
1870-77 - Port wore blue and white guernseys in its first 7 years. 1878 - Port changed their colours to pink and white.
1900s - Port Adelaide were known as the Magpies, and wore black and white vertical stripes, with a black yoke.
2001 - Port Adelaide are known as the Power, and wear a guernsey which is a combination of the colours, teal, black and white.

For your 1st 30 or so years you didn`t wear Black and White! You wanna talk heritage! Collingwood have never been anything but Black and White!

Spot the difference yet?

By the way we at the Pink Magpies don`t want you in Pink, Black and White either! hee hee.....

also found at your own wedsite

http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=history&spg=display&articleid=11240
From that first game until 1877 Port Adelaide wore blue and white colours which they changed to a rose pink cap, guernsey and socks with white knickerbockers in 1878.

A further change was made in 1883 when we wore a magenta and blue cap, guernsey and hooped socks with navy blue knickerbockers. But in 1902 someone must have come to their senses, as we changed to the famous black and white colours.



Changes are made to guernseys constantly. Can you tell me how you current guernsey compares to the 1990 premiership one? If Collingwood chose to wear the guernsey they wore in the 1990 premieship ther would be less of a clash than the current one.

rubberman
25 May 2003, 23:43
Originally posted by portly
I rate Graham Corne's brainpower - he's quite smart.

He continues to push the idea that PAFC are a NEW club, rather than the old PAFC entering a NEW and better national competition. He says that the new PAMFC are the old PAFC.

I cannot believe that he cannot see this that this is wrong.

So what is his agenda?

At the moment I am tempted to think that he is just being bloodyminded and pushing his own barrow, unable to move on from his Granger episode.

Any other ideas?

I would like to see the llok on his face if Kane comes out of the players tunnel in the famous black and white with the number 18 Granger made famous on his back. Priceless

Ray Nolan
26 May 2003, 00:03
Originally posted by rubberman
I would like to see the look on his face if Kane comes out of the players tunnel in the famous black and white with the number 18 Granger made famous on his back. Priceless

There's a new Mastercard ad in there somewhere ...

Ticket for the Footy Express $6.50

Ticket to the Port Adelaide match $15.00

2 Beers at the bar @ Footy Park $5.00

Port Adelaide's traditional jumper from the souvenir stand $80.00

The look on Graham Cornes' face when Chad & Kane Cornes run out on to the ground in that jumper ... PRICELESS!:D

Eddie Woloschek
26 May 2003, 13:07
Let's not let this furore over guernseys and colors detract from the real job ahead - murdering Collingwood on Friday night. It would be nice to absolutely thump the suitcase out of them - and if we play well, we just might. Then the real issue - what do the Crows wear on Foundation Day? A state guernsey? a Port Magpie laceup with blood stains on the back? Or their current guernsey with a vertyical yellow stripe on the back?

Andre
26 May 2003, 13:55
Originally posted by Eddie Woloschek
Let's not let this furore over guernseys and colors detract from the real job ahead - murdering Collingwood on Friday night. It would be nice to absolutely thump the suitcase out of them - and if we play well, we just might. Then the real issue - what do the Crows wear on Foundation Day? A state guernsey? a Port Magpie laceup with blood stains on the back? Or their current guernsey with a vertyical yellow stripe on the back?
Given they used to play that awful 'here we go camry crows' in their early days how about a guernsey with a picture of a camry on the back and the toyota chicken on the front ? :p

DaveW
26 May 2003, 16:13
Originally posted by Eddie Woloschek
Then the real issue - what do the Crows wear on Foundation Day? A state guernsey? a Port Magpie laceup with blood stains on the back? Or their current guernsey with a vertyical yellow stripe on the back? We should wear our traditional tri-colour hooped guernsey that we've worn since our inception. ;) I wonder if our opponents West Coast will wear that yellow thing from the 80s.

Andre
26 May 2003, 18:08
Originally posted by Ray Nolan
There's a new Mastercard ad in there somewhere ...

Ticket for the Footy Express $6.50

Ticket to the Port Adelaide match $15.00

2 Beers at the bar @ Footy Park $5.00

Port Adelaide's traditional jumper from the souvenir stand $80.00

The look on Graham Cornes' face when Chad & Kane Cornes run out on to the ground in that jumper ... PRICELESS!:D
Even better would be.
Cost to replace the window Graham broke when Chad was drafted by Port $100
Cost to fix the chair Graham kicked when Kane was drafted by Port. $50
The look on Graham's face when Kane runs out with Dave Grangers number on his back in black and white .. PRICELESS.

Eago77
26 May 2003, 22:56
Originally posted by fan4collingwood
As far as I knew Port Adelaide and Port Power are 2 separate clubs.
Port Power are the AFL club........no Port Adelaide in their name at all. so Heritage week should be the first jumper Port Power wore in their first match against the ONLY magpies in the AFL.

Can someone tell me what Port Adelaides first jumper was.......I think it was grey and pink.

Can someone delete this post. Obvioulsy posted by a half-wit (sorry to all the half-wits out there if i offended you by comparing this poster to you).

Eago77
26 May 2003, 23:01
Originally posted by tess
no discussion on the collingwood board because..... it will not happen.

as for our heritage, collingwood football club was formed out of a junior side called brittania, 1st fitzroy developed from that club, then collingwood. the day collingwood was formed as a club with its own identity we wore black and white stripes and our emlbem was the magpie.... from day one till now. we entered the victorian football association won a flag then when the victoria football league was formed we become a founding club.

cfc unlike the pafc has never been known as anything other than the black and white magpies, that is why we consider ourselves entittled to be the only black and white magpies within the afl

Wrong. Super, another half-wit.

Btw, perhaps the reason it isn't being discussed on the collingwood board is because most collingwood supporters don't know a collingwood board even exists and prefer to post their crap on the main board.

Eago77
26 May 2003, 23:13
Originally posted by Port Adelaide 1870
Which bit do we weep at ?

the bit that says the PAFC was formed in 1870, or the bit that says we joined the AFL in 1997..which bit ?

regards

PA1870

I almost cried looking at how many premierships and other achievements the club has had since we started in 1870 and compared them to the much inferior collingwood fc.

PAfolwr
26 May 2003, 23:21
Originally posted by Eago77
I almost cried looking at how many premierships and other achievements the club has had since we started in 1870 and compared them to the much inferior collingwood fc.
In 2008 it will be one in fifty years. :D