View Full Version : Positives from Cornes verdict
Well that's a bummer. Lets try and look on the positive side though.
1) Cornes gets a two week rest allowing his body to freshen up. Far enough into the season it should help ensure he's fresh come finals time, but not so close the interruption is going to leave him no time to get fully back into gear.
2) Guerra may get more game time. With Chad gone and Monty the returning player Choco may choose to go with a smaller forward line with Guerra one of the small forwards. He can play forward as well as back.
3) Choco and the team uses the comments on Chad to spur themselves to try that bit harder the next two weeks in a couple of hard matches.
Mudholian
23 May 2003, 10:16
A postive way of looking at it and their are consequences for every action - you just have to follow them through and sieze on any potential upside.
I would expect the Club to fire up behind what it sees as injustice - it has always happened in the past.
Mind you, I am speaking about the Club, what it says and what it stands for.
Porthos
23 May 2003, 10:41
4) Maybe the club will realise that the AFL won't give us a fair go and will stop agreeing to AFL requests without heavy financial or other considerations (where those considerations are paid only to Port Adelaide).
eg. Saturday afternoon games at Footy Park, which the AFL originally agreed wouldn't happen.
Similarly, any requests to avoid colour clashes in future should be met with the minimum acceptable change.
In fact, lets turn down every AFL request from now on. Sounds good.
go team
23 May 2003, 10:57
hey, i got an idea:
your players could refuse to turn up to telstra dome tonight as protest!
Porthos
23 May 2003, 11:03
Either that or we could work on the principle that if we're going to get player suspended anyway, it might as well be for good solid hits to the jaw with elbows in ruck contests, hips to the side of the head in contested ground ball situations, and so on - preferably in the first quarter to ensure the maximum impact on field.
Or we could just work on the principle that we have lost enough players to injury that to even put ourselves in a suspendable situation becomes redundant. I do however understand your sarcasm Porthos, just like in Basketball, if you are gonna foul someone under the basket, you might as well get value for money.
go team
23 May 2003, 12:52
hey, you could start dropping knees into unsuspecting players too...
dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 12:52
Originally posted by sog35
I do however understand your sarcasm Porthos, just like in Basketball, if you are gonna foul someone under the basket, you might as well get value for money.
I used that theory effectively when I played the game for many years..........no point getting a foul called against you if it was only a soft one - make it count no matter where it occured on the court.
As for the positives I agree it's good for Guerra and if anything will be good test for the club to see if it comes out fighting and showing the traditional way of fighting back after adversity - on the scoreboard starting from tonight.
During the many years of following our great club it's incidents like this that have propelled the club onto better things by setting up the 'us' against 'the rest' mentality that bought on so much success from the late 70's onwards.
In the words of a former SA footy enemy.........Let's stick it right up 'em..........
dreamkillers
23 May 2003, 12:54
Originally posted by go team
hey, you could start dropping knees into unsuspecting players too...
Well we could start by doing the same thing to pathetic, insecure little posters like yourself.........
go team
23 May 2003, 13:20
speaking of pathetic, insecure posters - i got a great john howard photo if anyone wants to hang that on the wall...
and if you want a positive about cornes being suspended.. well he's a great footballer, so missing him tonight is a challenge for your side to overcome. Good football teams win when everything is going right. GREAT football sides win when they have their backs to the wall.
Porthos
23 May 2003, 13:43
Yay, another challenge. Like thats new.
The best thing about this week is that the game is on Friday and retribution can come early. What odds we don't get Margetts for the rest of the year?
It has been a frustrating week for all concerned.
Some people frustrated at the suspension
Some frustrated at the fact it went to the tribunal
Some frustrated that the fabric of the club has been ripped to shreds.
It'll be good to see the boys back out on the field.
Another positive is that the last time I can remember Guerra having the opportunity to play 4 quarters was against the Bombers in 2001.
Start with the forward line open with CCC, Tred, JB and Gu. Put Schoey and Peter Burgoyne on the ball, get the ball out quick, have Tredders continually run back towards the goals and the other 3 forwards lead up from the goal square to 30m out. Have our pacey midfielders running through the 50m line having shots at goal or hitting the leading players or hit Tredders outmuscling his opponent (Wellman or Lucas or someone else) with the leading players doubling back to pick up the crumbs.
Bloody hell I'm looking forward to tonight.
A positive to come out of the Cornes' verdict is that none of our players will get two weeks for such Mickey Mouse things as the Nick Stevens 'elbow' or the Michael Stevens 'punch' from last year. We can only hope.
Ford Fairlane
23 May 2003, 15:34
Maybe the club will go full bore at the first tribunal hearing next time. Fly the player over to Melbourne and don't do the phone hook up (lawyers have egos - they like to be shown due deference), bring along your biomechanist, 6 hours of video tape with frame by frame viewings of the incident and events leading up to it from 27 different angles, character referees, experts in the difficulty of being a floating tall forward etc etc right from the outset. Bludgeon the tribunal into submission with sensory overload like Richmond did with Stafford. Heck by the end of that hearing the tribunal practically apologised to Stafford for inconveniencing him!
At least if u get done after all of that, u know not to waste $15K on an appeal!
And given Port's record before the tribunal maybe the club chaplain should prepare the players' defence ... I think we need to be plugged into a "Higher Power" to get off any charge!!!
Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
Maybe the club will go full bore at the first tribunal hearing next time. Fly the player over to Melbourne and don't do the phone hook up (lawyers have egos - they like to be shown due deference), bring along your biomechanist, 6 hours of video tape with frame by frame viewings of the incident and events leading up to it from 27 different angles, character referees, experts in the difficulty of being a floating tall forward etc etc right from the outset. Bludgeon the tribunal into submission with sensory overload like Richmond did with Stafford. Heck by the end of that hearing the tribunal practically apologised to Stafford for inconveniencing him!
At least if u get done after all of that, u know not to waste $15K on an appeal!
And given Port's record before the tribunal maybe the club chaplain should prepare the players' defence ... I think we need to be plugged into a "Higher Power" to get off any charge!!!
Hell yes. Dragging out proceedings is the way to go.
It just seems to me that we haven't put up much of a fight in our hearings to date. The appeal last night might have been different if it weren't thrown out in 4 minutes, but I'd like to see every relevant specialist giving page after page of evidence in further cases - not when we appeal.
Exactly right on all counts Ford. Clever little cookie.
Originally posted by go team
speaking of pathetic, insecure posters - i got a great john howard photo if anyone wants to hang that on the wall...
LOL
and if you want a positive about cornes being suspended.. well he's a great footballer, so missing him tonight is a challenge for your side to overcome. Good football teams win when everything is going right. GREAT football sides win when they have their backs to the wall.
We seem to be doing alright so far this year with many 1st choice players unavailable, including missing 4 of our All-Australians (and 1 Brownlow Medal runner-up), during a majority of the games.
Cheers
SKC