Coterie Group: Historical/ Get Port to wear their old SANFL uniform in the AFL

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Who wants to form a committee / group/ Coterie group to assist Port make the decision that we need to wear our old Guernsey in the AFL all the time, this group could also fund raise for a museum at the club etc etc etc....


PA1870

[Uncle Steve]

Originally posted by Port Adelaide 1870
Who wants to form a committee / group/ Coterie group to assist Port make the decision that we need to wear our old Guernsey in the AFL all the time, this group could also fund raise for a museum at the club etc etc etc....


PA1870

Absolutely! Port should have been wearing the famous magenta strip from day one! :D

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve
Absolutely! Port should have been wearing the famous magenta strip from day one! :D

Gufaw, Gufaw, Gufaw !!!:D

PA1870

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Lets set about getting Port to wear their old SANFL guernsey ..
permanantly, not just in one off games.

Do you guys wish to get the ball rolling ?

regards

PA1870

[Pred]

Sounds great, but I can't do much about it from Japan. Cmon guys get behind 1870!

[Rats Tossbag]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve
Absolutely! Port should have been wearing the famous magenta strip from day one! :D

The Port Adelaide Football Club played in colours of blue and white until 1878, when a change was made to rose pink cap, jersey and hose with white knickerbockers.

Another change was made in 1883 when the team turned out in magenta and blue jerseys and hose with navy knickerbockers.
These were the colours until 1902, when the change was made to the famous black and white which is still worn today.

[Mudholian]

Let's start off with the correct terminlogy. The Port Adelaide Football Club should be able to wear whatever jumper they have worn in their history.

Don't describe it as the traditional magpie jumper (not that you have, but I have seen it referred to as such) - this causes great confusion among the easily confused.

The sticking point is the PAFC bequeathed this to the PAMFC so that's the difficulty.

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Originally posted by Rats Tossbag
The Port Adelaide Football Club played in colours of blue and white until 1878, when a change was made to rose pink cap, jersey and hose with white knickerbockers.

Another change was made in 1883 when the team turned out in magenta and blue jerseys and hose with navy knickerbockers.
These were the colours until 1902, when the change was made to the famous black and white which is still worn today.

No its not..The Black white and teal Jumper is worn today..The PAMFC wears the B & W jumper bequeathed to it by the PAFC today..:)

PA1870

[Rats Tossbag]

Sorry I didnt quote where that article came from :p

It was from a book called
The story of the Port Adelaide Football Club 1870 - 1970.

So at the time of printing it was correct.
:rolleyes:

[The Floodbuster]

I think that the Port Prison bar guernsey is history for the PAFC unfortunately. As much as I would like to see it again I think our new guernsey is very modern and innovative and doesn't look art decor like the Richmond, Essendon, Adelaide, Geelong etc guernseys. We are now in the 21st Century and the additions of silver and teal show a new era (1997-onwards) and new addition to our club. I think the club has done everything right adding these colours, and as said when we joined the AFL the Power opted for the Power as it's logo as the magpie could never be replaced with another bird or animal. I kind of was disappointed at first with the Power name but now I love it, it really defines the club and it's culture.
Actually when I was in Melbourne on the weekend I went back to the Oxford after the game where the players were and a few locals who barracked for Essendon and the Bulldogs were talking about the game with me. The guernsey conversation came up and surprisingly the knowledge they had about the PAFC astonished me, they brought it up that Port is one of the greatest footy clubs and only had utmost respect for the club. I asked if they seen us differently as we changed our guernsey and they said it was still Port Adelaide and respected our history and said that we should of been in when the VFL expanded in 1987 let alone in 91. And for the Crows the only impression I get from Vics each time I'm over there is a simple lack of respect response of an AFL formed manufactured club given handouts to create Sth Australian interest in a Victorian competition trying to expand at such a time. I mean with the moratorium/concessions the Crows had in 90-91 when the SANFL was at it's strongest how could they not be a force in there first ten years, simple - a manufactured money making organization with no character, history, tradition and culture. We may have the gloating of back to back for the next 20 years but if that was Port or Norwood I think our state would have more than 2 cups in the first ten years.
Unfortunately in 1996 when we were compiling our list where we had only a one year moratorium in a very weak SANFL competition we did not get the same opportunity but with the professionalism of the club we were still competitive at least, whereas most predicted us being a bottom 2 side for the first few years.
I think probably the fact that it annoys us the Crows won back to back in a then compromised finals system I think it's great in a way, they gloat about back to back but the thing is, they are happy with only two flags, let them have there little moment of glory, not once but twice as they more or so won't see it again as they are cultureless club that won't ever be given the same concessions/opportunities again. They may snaffle a few priority picks etc like St Kilda and co but they won't have the same passion and competitiveness of the great sides. Even with priority picks etc they will probably trade these off for 32 year olds just to be competitive and never have the opportunity to rebuild as has been said before that the Crows aint a rebuilding side.

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Originally posted by The Floodbuster
I think that the Port Prison bar guernsey is history for the PAFC unfortunately. As much as I would like to see it again I think our new guernsey is very modern and innovative and doesn't look art decor like the Richmond, Essendon, Adelaide, Geelong etc guernseys. We are now in the 21st Century and the additions of silver and teal show a new era (1997-onwards) and new addition to our club. I think the club has done everything right adding these colours, and as said when we joined the AFL the Power opted for the Power as it's logo as the magpie could never be replaced with another bird or animal. I kind of was disappointed at first with the Power name but now I love it, it really defines the club and it's culture.
Actually when I was in Melbourne on the weekend I went back to the Oxford after the game where the players were and a few locals who barracked for Essendon and the Bulldogs were talking about the game with me. The guernsey conversation came up and surprisingly the knowledge they had about the PAFC astonished me, they brought it up that Port is one of the greatest footy clubs and only had utmost respect for the club. I asked if they seen us differently as we changed our guernsey and they said it was still Port Adelaide and respected our history and said that we should of been in when the VFL expanded in 1987 let alone in 91. And for the Crows the only impression I get from Vics each time I'm over there is a simple lack of respect response of an AFL formed manufactured club given handouts to create Sth Australian interest in a Victorian competition trying to expand at such a time. I mean with the moratorium/concessions the Crows had in 90-91 when the SANFL was at it's strongest how could they not be a force in there first ten years, simple - a manufactured money making organization with no character, history, tradition and culture. We may have the gloating of back to back for the next 20 years but if that was Port or Norwood I think our state would have more than 2 cups in the first ten years.
Unfortunately in 1996 when we were compiling our list where we had only a one year moratorium in a very weak SANFL competition we did not get the same opportunity but with the professionalism of the club we were still competitive at least, whereas most predicted us being a bottom 2 side for the first few years.
I think probably the fact that it annoys us the Crows won back to back in a then compromised finals system I think it's great in a way, they gloat about back to back but the thing is, they are happy with only two flags, let them have there little moment of glory, not once but twice as they more or so won't see it again as they are cultureless club that won't ever be given the same concessions/opportunities again. They may snaffle a few priority picks etc like St Kilda and co but they won't have the same passion and competitiveness of the great sides. Even with priority picks etc they will probably trade these off for 32 year olds just to be competitive and never have the opportunity to rebuild as has been said before that the Crows aint a rebuilding side.

All perspectives are welcome....

So would you stop supporting Port Adelaide if they changed their jumper to a more traditional style..ala the old prison bar guernsey, with perhaps some teal or a splash of silver on it ?

PA1870

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Originally posted by Rats Tossbag
Sorry I didnt quote where that article came from :p

It was from a book called
The story of the Port Adelaide Football Club 1870 - 1970.

So at the time of printing it was correct.
:rolleyes:

A great read, for those that can find a copy...

Brilliant photos.

regards

PA1870

[DaveW]

Floodbuster - you say the same things about Adelaide that many others have said about West Coast. Gee 2 premierships in a decade, what an underachievement. :rolleyes: It just smacks of bitter jealousy.

Oh and a nice re-write of history there too. The SANFL at its strongest in 1990? Give me a break. Many good players had been lost to the VFL by then. The likes of Kernahan, Platten, Bradley et al.

[PAfolwr]

I am now undecided about the jumper issue. Probably more no than yes.
Until not long ago I was totally for wearing the old B&W prison bars, but now not sure.
For the odd occasion Yes, a must. History is history.
Always, no.
We now have a lot of supporters in the AFL that do not follow the Magpies, and did not follow Port prior to our entry.
Most of these supporters do acknowledge our history, but only support us in the AFL.
Not quite sure how to word it all, but if we were to revert to the old jumper always it may turn out to be a regressive step.
I would like us to wear it at least once a year though. Our home game against Collingwood, just to **** them off.

[Andre]

Everyone make sure the club knows we all want the black and white back for traditional guernsey match. Living in Vic. I can't get along to training and tell anyone, so I've emailed them. However you tell them, make sure enough of us do they can't ignore us for fear of offending many chinned whales living here in Melbourne.

[raboyle]

In the Advertiser today, there was something mentioned about 'AFL Heritage Week'.

I think that Port will make the move to play in the black & white prison bar guernsey for that week. Don't know when it will be though.

[sog35]

From a West Adelaide perspective

I think I've said elsewhere that I wouldn't mind the Power wearing the Prison Bar for round 19 and thinking about it more I wouldn't mind seeing an alternative prison bar guernsey with a bit of teal and silver added in.

[Eago77]

Love the Prison Bar jumper but really no need for it on a week-to-week basis in the AFL. With the additions of silver and tel and the new designs that were needed to move into the AFl i think the club has done well. I'm not sure i'd like to see the old fashioned prison bar jumper replace the the newer ones every week. On the odd occassion sure but all great clubs changed the jumper/strip from time to time in many different sports to move with the times, we've done it, no need to try and turn back time, otherwise we'd be playing in caps and knickerbockers as well.

[The Floodbuster]

Originally posted by DaveW
Floodbuster - you say the same things about Adelaide that many others have said about West Coast. Gee 2 premierships in a decade, what an underachievement. :rolleyes: It just smacks of bitter jealousy.

Oh and a nice re-write of history there too. The SANFL at its strongest in 1990? Give me a break. Many good players had been lost to the VFL by then. The likes of Kernahan, Platten, Bradley et al.


Yes well you can be satisfied with 2 premierships in a decade.
Jealous of two flags in a decade, pfft, maybe 4 or 5 and I may have some recognition of jealousy.
I have seen Port win 7 in a decade, I still want more.
It is common knowledge the SANFL was at it's peak in 89 and 90, around these two years we seen more SANFL players exported than any other years, players like Wanganeen, D Jarman, Bickley, et al.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by The Floodbuster
Yes well you can be satisfied with 2 premierships in a decade.
Jealous of two flags in a decade, pfft, maybe 4 or 5 and I may have some recognition of jealousy.
I have seen Port win 7 in a decade, I still want more. Let's see Port do it in a competition levelled by the draft and salary cap. Adelaide's success - premiership wise - was as good as any in the 1990s. Two flags along with West Coast (the other supposed state side) and North Melbourne.
It is common knowledge the SANFL was at it's peak in 89 and 90, around these two years we seen more SANFL players exported than any other years, players like Wanganeen, D Jarman, Bickley, et al. Common knowledge? What rot. The SANFL was much weaker relative to the VFL by the end of the 80s. And the fact that those players were exported (I assume you mean Buckley not Bickley), just further refutes the nonsense about Adelaide being a state side. :o

[The Floodbuster]

Originally posted by DaveW
Let's see Port do it in a competition levelled by the draft and salary cap. Adelaide's success - premiership wise - was as good as any in the 1990s. Two flags along with West Coast (the other supposed state side) and North Melbourne.
Common knowledge? What rot. The SANFL was much weaker relative to the VFL by the end of the 80s. And the fact that those players were exported (I assume you mean Buckley not Bickley), just further refutes the nonsense about Adelaide being a state side. :o

No I meant Bickley, Buckley played in 1992 in the SANFL.
I meant exported from the SANFL to the AFL, which was pretty clear. Also try and find a side that would match up to Port's 89 SANFL side.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by The Floodbuster
Also try and find a side that would match up to Port's 89 SANFL side. Hawthorn and Geelong. :D

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Originally posted by DaveW
Hawthorn and Geelong. :D

yep..they would compare...I'm not silly enough to say that they wouldnt have been competitive against the PAFC in 1989...

regards

PA1870

[Portmagpies]

Here's an idea for a prison bar compromise.

With Port mooted to be adopting a predominantly silver away guernsey next season, why not invoke the prison bar design?Swap the black with silver and the white with black. Simple. Not even Eddie could argue about a colour clash then.