View Full Version : Movie Moments in movies that don't make any sense.
I'm not talking about a movies premise here. If you watch a movie you buy into the premise. I'm talking about scenes WITHIN a movies premise that don't make sense, given the type of movie it is.
So, you can't say that, "It doesn't make sense for Bill and Ted to travel back in time grabbing Abraham Lincoln as hostage" because that whole movie is supposed to be silly in the first place.
One that always bugs me is from the original Jurassic Park. Cool concept cloning dinosaurs from ancient DNA in tree sap. I buy into that, fair enough. We are told that the scientists make sure that the dinosaurs are all female by controlling their chromosomes. Okay fair enough.
In response to controlling the sex of the dinosaurs, Jeff Goldblum says: "If there's one thing the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free. It expands to new territories. It crashes through barriers. I'm simply saying that life - finds a way."
Later in the movie, we find some hatched Dinosaur eggs, and Jeff was right! Life found a way!!
Now I'm no evolutionary biologist, and whilst I ackowlegde that life can "find a way" over millions of years of evolution, I'm pretty sure that two female dinsoaurs put in a pen together for a couple of weeks WILL NOT HAVE A BABY DINOSAUR!
That doesn't make sense!
Bomber Bears
12 Apr 2010, 15:35
http://www.teamteabag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0330chewbacca.jpg
It does not make sense!
Or in "The sixth Sense"
OK I get that Bruce is dead and the kid can see dead people. Fair enough.
What I don't get is how can Bruce not know that he is dead! Hasn't he noticed, that, apart from the kid, NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD TALKS TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGES HIS EXISTENCE.
That doesn't make sense!
Another one from the Original Superman with Chistopher Reeve.
OK, I accept that as Superman gets closer to a yellow sun he gets stronger and faster and all that. Fair enough. He gets super strength, can see through things can fly, etc etc.
That's all part of what you buy into when watching that movie.
And I can even accept him flying around the earth at super speed to make the Earth stop spinning (and go backwards), because that physical effort of him flying at that speed might have some phyiscal effect on the earth spinning. It's a stretch but I can buy it.
What doesn't make any sense is how the Earth spinning backwards makes everything go back in time! That can't happen, I don't care if you're Superman or whoever. You don't make time go backwards by making the earth spin the other way!
That doesn't make sense.
Another one from the Original Superman with Chistopher Reeve.
OK, I accept that as Superman gets closer to a yellow sun he gets stronger and faster and all that. Fair enough. He gets super strength, can see through things can fly, etc etc.
That's all part of what you buy into when watching that movie.
And I can even accept him flying around the earth at super speed to make the Earth stop spinning (and go backwards), because that physical effort of him flying at that speed might have some phyiscal effect on the earth spinning. It's a stretch but I can buy it.
What doesn't make any sense is how the Earth spinning backwards makes everything go back in time! That can't happen, I don't care if you're Superman or whoever. You don't make time go backwards by making the earth spin the other way!
That doesn't make sense.
Later on doesn't he fly to what's left of Krypton?
Surely on the flight there when he goes outside the influence of the yellow sun he should instantly die in the middle of space...
ManWithNoName
12 Apr 2010, 16:24
Later on doesn't he fly to what's left of Krypton?
Surely on the flight there when he goes outside the influence of the yellow sun he should instantly die in the middle of space...
That's Superman Returns. He goes back to Krypton in a spaceship.
I could make a post about Superman IV: The Quest for Peace in this thread, but it'd be a neverending post.
The_Eagles
12 Apr 2010, 17:01
Or in "The sixth Sense"
OK I get that Bruce is dead and the kid can see dead people. Fair enough.
What I don't get is how can Bruce not know that he is dead! Hasn't he noticed, that, apart from the kid, NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD TALKS TO HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGES HIS EXISTENCE.
That doesn't make sense!
doesn't the kid say the ghosts see what they want to see...
anyway, The Phantom Menace
The_Eagles
12 Apr 2010, 17:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
DeadlyAkkuret
12 Apr 2010, 17:16
The ending of The Lake House.
Iron Man was a decent film, until the climatic battle scene. By the logic of the film Tony Stark should have died at the end of the last battle.
What really annoyed me about it is there was no mention of how he survived.... it was obviously shown that he was still alive - BUT HOW DID IT HAPPEN ? :eek:
All of Mulholland Drive.
Oh yes agree 100%!!!
Buuut this film called "The Room" would be the movie that 'writes the book' on not making sense. Its hilarious- hilarious acting, writing, directing etc.. and it just introduces random characters and offers no explanations as to who they are. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXiFJS9D5A
Slacker
12 Apr 2010, 18:25
Midichlorians in star wars prequels.
It made no sense for lucas to bring in the midichlorians idea, it goes against everything we wanted to believe about the Jedi. Becoming a jedi is now an unobtainable goal for everyone in their universe apart from a small blessed number of elite.
HarryTiger
12 Apr 2010, 18:56
310 to Yuma (Russel Crowe).
Too many things. Like waiting for the baddies to come into town and surround them instead of picking them off on the outskirts. One of many holes.
Midichlorians in star wars prequels.
It made no sense for lucas to bring in the midichlorians idea, it goes against everything we wanted to believe about the Jedi. Becoming a jedi is now an unobtainable goal for everyone in their universe apart from a small blessed number of elite.
Whether you like that idea or not, you can't say it doesn't make sense. Becoming a Jedi is jsut for the blessed elite, yes. That's absolutely fair enough as a plot point in terms of "making sense"
I'm looking for things in moves that don't make sense. The midichlorians are portrayed as a microscopic life form, and the more you have of them, the more "attuned" to the force you are. That make sense (in the premise of the movie.) You might not like the idea, but it certainly makes sense. Those that have the most of them are taken as children to be Jedi.
Here's something that doesn't make sense from Revenge of the Sith (even though I love that film:)
At the end Anakin is burned to a crisp. He is on Mustafar which, we are told, is in the outer rim of the galaxy. Palpatine has just had a fight with Yoda on Coruscant right in the cenre of the galaxy, and he senses Anakin is in trouble.
Palpatine literally goes from Coruscant to the outer rim instantaneously and is there to comfort the burned Anakin. How did he get there instantaneously??? Even in the Star Wars Galaxy, faster than light travel still takes time...
Probably my most despised moment of all (once agan in a movie I really like)
Back to The Future Part II:
When Marty (17 years old), Jennifer and Doc leave 1985 to go to 2015 at the start of the movie, Marty sees himself as a 47 year old. How???
He has LEFT 1985, leaped over the next 30 years and arrived in 2015. When he gets to 2015, he should have been missing for 30 years.
You can't say, "Oh, but eventually they go back to 1985 and he gets old"... NO. The movies clearly state that the future is what you make it. It is not pre-determined. When they get to 2015, he hasn't gone back to 1985 yet. How can he see himself as an old man?
Remember in the first movie when Eisntein the dog was the first time traveller? He travelled one minute into the future. The dog leaped over that minute, and for one minute there was no Dog! So, if Marty goes forward 30 years, there should be no Marty getting old in between 1985 and 2015.
Doesn't make sense.
I could make a post about Superman IV: The Quest for Peace in this thread, but it'd be a neverending post.
Can I mention one? lol
The great wall of China is reduced to rubble.
Superman, using some "new" power that we have never seen before literally POINTS at the rubble and the wall all goes back together again.
Okay I get he's faster, stronger etc... but you cant just point your finger and put back together a heap of rubble. Where were you on Setpember 11 Superman?
ManWithNoName
12 Apr 2010, 19:46
Can I mention one? lol
The great wall of China is reduced to rubble.
Superman, using some "new" power that we have never seen before literally POINTS at the rubble and the wall all goes back together again.
Okay I get he's faster, stronger etc... but you cant just point your finger and put back together a heap of rubble. Where were you on Setpember 11 Superman?
The worst bit was he didn't even reassemble the broken bricks. He just made new ones appear from...nowhere?
I COULD mention that in the opening scene that Superman saves that guy in space because he (Supeman) just happens to be flying in the dead of space for no apparent reason.
Or that he talked in space.
Or that that hack woman Nuclear Man kidnapped managed to not only gasp, and talk in space, but she was FALLING FROM HIS ARMS IN SPACE.
Or that Lex Luthor (who is bald and wears wigs) is, we're led to believe, wearing a wig WITH A BALD SPOT
Bretski
12 Apr 2010, 19:48
In the movies 2012. They board the arks in China, minutes after launching they slowly make contact with Mt. Everest...
EDIT: Actually Tibet is pretty much China.
placebo
12 Apr 2010, 19:54
Talk of Back to the Future reminds me of the BttF topic we had on this board with everyone trying to explain which things were possible and which weren't and all sorts of other mental masturbation. Awesome thread it was.
Slacker
12 Apr 2010, 20:16
Yeah ok, you are right about the midichlorians. They just bugged me so much that I thought I'd throw it in there.
More in line with your thread is Eve's weapon use in Wall-E. The probe Eve is equipped with a massive vaporizer weapon that she fires at the first sign of movement - her mission is to try and find life.
Pretty much all of Transformers 2
Knife Wrench
12 Apr 2010, 20:53
In response to controlling the sex of the dinosaurs, Jeff Goldblum says: "If there's one thing the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free. It expands to new territories. It crashes through barriers. I'm simply saying that life - finds a way."
Later in the movie, we find some hatched Dinosaur eggs, and Jeff was right! Life found a way!!
Now I'm no evolutionary biologist, and whilst I ackowlegde that life can "find a way" over millions of years of evolution, I'm pretty sure that two female dinsoaurs put in a pen together for a couple of weeks WILL NOT HAVE A BABY DINOSAUR!
That doesn't make sense!
In the movies it says that the missing pieces of dinosaur DNA was filled with frog DNA. Some species of frog are able to spontaneously change sex when in a same sex environment. Mystery Solved.
What about at the very start of the original Star Wars, when the droids launch the escape pod.
"Hold your fire... there's no life forms. It must have short circuited"
What's that got to do with anything? Just shoot it anyway, just in case. What have you got to lose? You would have beaten the rebels right then and there.
An escape pod launches without life forms (but clearly COULD contain valuable information) so you might as well blast it. And they elect to let it go, just because there are no life forms? That doesn't make sense
Junk Time
13 Apr 2010, 14:57
What about at the very start of the original Star Wars, when the droids launch the escape pod.
"Hold your fire... there's no life forms. It must have short circuited"
What's that got to do with anything? Just shoot it anyway, just in case. What have you got to lose? You would have beaten the rebels right then and there.
An escape pod launches without life forms (but clearly COULD contain valuable information) so you might as well blast it. And they elect to let it go, just because there are no life forms? That doesn't make sense
"Hold your fire? What are we paying by the laser now?"
"You don't do the budget Terry, I do"
ManWithNoName
13 Apr 2010, 15:08
The worst bit was he didn't even reassemble the broken bricks. He just made new ones appear from...nowhere?
I COULD mention that in the opening scene that Superman saves that guy in space because he (Supeman) just happens to be flying in the dead of space for no apparent reason.
Or that he talked in space.
Or that that hack woman Nuclear Man kidnapped managed to not only gasp, and talk in space, but she was FALLING FROM HIS ARMS IN SPACE.
Or that Lex Luthor (who is bald and wears wigs) is, we're led to believe, wearing a wig WITH A BALD SPOT
Or that Superman tells Lois his secret identity, only to make her forget about 3 minutes later.
Or that he stops a volcano by chucking a giant rock in the top. Yeah Superman, that won't build up pressure and cause a massive eruption of lava and rock. Good job!
Or that when Nuclear Man screams "Where is she!?" and Superman knows who he means...HOW DOES HE KNOW!?
Another one about Back to the Future Part II.
They leave 1985 to go to 2015 because, as Doc says, "Something's got to be done about your kids, Marty."
What's the rush? Why are they hurrying?
Can't Doc just tell them what the problem is, so Marty then knows 30 years in advance? And Marty and jennifer can, therefore, sort out the problem long before it happens by raising their kid differently or ensuring they are all on a family holiday when that 2015 date arrives?
Why do they need to go to the future to solve it?
I can't believe I forgot this one from Raiders of the lost Ark.
They are searching for the Well of the Souls. This is a huge seacrh, as it involves the entire first half of the movie. To find the Well of the souls he has to find the headpiece to the Staff of Ra, which leads him to Nepal to battle some bad guys.
Then the info on the headpiece tells him that the stick he uses in the map room must be of a certain height, so that when the sun hits the headpiece on top of the stick at the right time of day, a beam will come down on the miniature of the city showing the exact location of the "well of the souls."
Okay, so finding the well of the souls is A BIG DEAL!! It requires lots of knowledge and lots of clues! The "Well of the souls" is VERY hard to find. So much so, that the Nazis need hundreds of workers to dig and look for it. Hundreds!
Okay, so Indy finds the Well of the souls, and the bad guys find him and lock him and marion inside. Okay, that's all fine. Indy then escapes by smashing a giant dragon sculpture through a wall. Okay, that's all cool.
BUT!
On the other side of the wall is a friggin airport! Didn't anyone at the airport think to look behind the stone wall? The ark was on the other side of a stone wall all that time, next to a nazi airport!
Brad Roo
13 Apr 2010, 20:37
"That scene" in The Crying Game was totally unnecessary.
Herne Hill Hammer
13 Apr 2010, 21:08
The ending to the remake of Planet of the Apes with Mark Wahlberg. He leaves future earth in his pod and returns to present day earth. The planet is being run by the apes.
What did I miss, it's been bugging me for years.
Any sci-fi movie where they use any sort or lasers as weapons. FFS, you have the technology to make awesome weapons but no sort of a guidance system. You'd think they'd be to the stage where they fire and they hit something.
ExTasDeeMan
13 Apr 2010, 21:22
Any scene in the Terminator movies when there isn't huge amounts of violence.
DoubleO7
13 Apr 2010, 22:43
I could never understand the ending of Vanilla Sky. Now I'm no evolutionary biologist, and whilst I ackowlegde that life can "find a way" over millions of years of evolution, I'm pretty sure that two female dinsoaurs put in a pen together for a couple of weeks WILL NOT HAVE A BABY DINOSAUR!
That doesn't make sense!
Asexual reproduction in the dinosaurs, or that whole frog DNA thing mentioned earlier.
TheStinger
13 Apr 2010, 23:28
Any movie with time travel in it, especially backwards and forwards, is fraught with danger. There are always so many questions left unanswered.
Dirtywhirl
14 Apr 2010, 00:08
In 'The Butterfly Effect', Aston Kucher tries to convince his religious cellmate to help him out by showing him that he has some sort of gift. So he decides to travel back to primary school and impale his hands on two spikes so that he appears to have stigmata markings in the present. In a movie that is based on the chaos theory, I find it a little strange that a child inflicting such harm on himself would have no effect at all on his future life and that he would end up in the exact same jail cell with nothing but marks on his hands to show for it.
Mythbusters is good for moments that are scientifically not possible. The scene in the first Pirates movie where they use an upside down boat to create an air pocket underwater comes to mind.
Butterfly Effect is a pretty good movie, haven't seen #2 have heard it's shit though.
I guess in your example Dirtywhirl his actions could have resulted in him going in jail. Starting from self harm the kid may have moved on to bigger things if his friends abandoned him and stuff and he could have ended up in jail. I do see your point in how its odd he just happened to have the EXACT same result. Still a good movie though.
Invigoration
14 Apr 2010, 03:48
I could never understand the ending of Vanilla Sky.
Really? The Tech Support guy virtually explains the whole thing (if you are talking about the US version).
He is cryogenically frozen and the majority of the movie is him living out a lucid dream/nightmare.
At the end he has to choose whether he wants to live out the dream being with Sofia or make the jump and awake from the frozen state to the real world.
...or something like that, it's been a while since I've seen it.
Mulholland Drive tends to be pretty confusing, although things make more sense if you watch it more than once.
I remember Revolver being all over the shop
And_ROOS
14 Apr 2010, 08:40
Well, i will just copy a movie moment from cracked.com to sum up my thoughts on Star Wars...
So there's the famous sequence where Luke gets trained by Yoda on Yoda's shithole of a planet. To break up the sequence, the film cuts to the Millennium Falcon getting chased by the Empire to Lando's cloud city. When they arrive, they get captured, at which point Luke has finished his training.
Well, that doesn't work. Were they chased for months? Or was Luke trained in an afternoon? Either we were spared some extended scenes on board the Millennium Falcon featuring starvation and debates about when they'd have to eat Chewbacca, or becoming a Jedi is easier than getting a cub scout merit badge.
Saving Private Ryan.
When the translator hears the fighting upstairs and doesn't rush up there to help. Then the German soldier appears at the top of the stairs (unarmed iirc), he does nothing and lets him walk down the stairs (virtually brushing up against him) and allows him to go on his merry way. And if the yank's actions didn't make any sense, why doesn't the German do away with the translator as he passes by. I'm sure a hardened soldier, even unarmed, would have been able to sort out a weasly little ponce like that.
Junk Time
14 Apr 2010, 10:22
Saving Private Ryan.
When the translator hears the fighting upstairs and doesn't rush up there to help. Then the German soldier appears at the top of the stairs (unarmed iirc), he does nothing and lets him walk down the stairs (virtually brushing up against him) and allows him to go on his merry way. And if the yank's actions didn't make any sense, why doesn't the German do away with the translator as he passes by. I'm sure a hardened soldier, even unarmed, would have been able to sort out a weasly little ponce like that.
Haven't seen it in ages, but isn't it the guy he help set free who shot the medic earlier on in the movie? Half of them wanted to shoot him after he dug the graves, but he helped set him free.... same guy? Maybe it was meant to be pay back for letting him go?
He did then shoot him right at the end once they surrended after the air support arrived.
I've always thought attacking the machine gun nest in SPR was ridiculous, especially given their mission. Obviously it's there too set up the conflict within the group, but still..
The_Eagles
14 Apr 2010, 11:24
Haven't seen it in ages, but isn't it the guy he help set free who shot the medic earlier on in the movie? Half of them wanted to shoot him after he dug the graves, but he helped set him free.... same guy? Maybe it was meant to be pay back for letting him go?
He did then shoot him right at the end once they surrended after the air support arrived.
I saw a website that meticulously compared the two, and it's not the same guy.
Punchy Bassett
14 Apr 2010, 13:12
The ending to the remake of Planet of the Apes with Mark Wahlberg. He leaves future earth in his pod and returns to present day earth. The planet is being run by the apes.
What did I miss, it's been bugging me for years.
+1 for this, seriously can't figure out what the hell I missed that would have explained how that happened......
Junk Time
14 Apr 2010, 15:00
I saw a website that meticulously compared the two, and it's not the same guy.
Then it really doesn't make sense at all then.
+1 for this, seriously can't figure out what the hell I missed that would have explained how that happened......
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/PlanetoftheApes/2001ending.htm
The fundamental principle behind the Star Wars prequals. The whole time Qui Gon and Obi Wan are convinced that Annakin is 'the chosen one who will bring balance to the Force'. When he turns out evil, Obi Wan is devastated and disbelieving.
Why? The Jedi were an extremely powerful group of warriors and diplomats who enjoyed elite standing in the omnipotent Galactic Republic. The Sith were thought to have died out thousands of years previously, and had only survived in secret, a shadow of their former selves.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist (or even wide awake) to work out which side of the scales needed to be tipped to 'bring balance'.
Bretski
14 Apr 2010, 18:42
Then it really doesn't make sense at all then.
I think it adds to the realism. They don't fill the movie wit a bunch of shoot-em-up Rambo moments. Instead this scene shows how the German saw the cowering guy and pitied him and decided his life is not worth taking and walked by smugly. At the end the yank decided to stand up for himself and face a bunch of unarmed Germans and looked the guy who pitied him in the eyes and showed him he's not a cowered and shot him.
WheatsWorshipper
14 Apr 2010, 21:05
The fundamental principle behind the Star Wars prequals. The whole time Qui Gon and Obi Wan are convinced that Annakin is 'the chosen one who will bring balance to the Force'. When he turns out evil, Obi Wan is devastated and disbelieving.
Why? The Jedi were an extremely powerful group of warriors and diplomats who enjoyed elite standing in the omnipotent Galactic Republic. The Sith were thought to have died out thousands of years previously, and had only survived in secret, a shadow of their former selves.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist (or even wide awake) to work out which side of the scales needed to be tipped to 'bring balance'.
What I didn't understand was the whole thing in the second movie. How Obi-Wan gets captured pretty much spying on the bug planet.
So Anakin and Padme take it upon themselves to go and rescue him killing a shitload of the bugs and get captured as well, resulting in the Jedi and the Republic Storm Troopers killing countless citizens to rescue these three who have no doubt broken countless Intergalactic laws.
After that I lost faith in the Republic and was cheering for the Separatists in the resulting Clone War.
Noddy Holder
14 Apr 2010, 22:11
Any horror movie. Why do people always do the opposite thing than what you would do if you were in the same situation in real life(i.e. run)?
I enjoyed Avatar but so many things in that movie didn't make sense to me.
The Master88
14 Apr 2010, 22:26
Any horror movie. Why do people always do the opposite thing than what you would do if you were in the same situation in real life(i.e. run)?
Or when they hit the bad guy with something and they could easy finish the bad guy off but they just drop what they where holding and run.
Atavistic
14 Apr 2010, 23:06
Some Avatar ones:
Apparently the Na'vi can fall any distance (hundreds of metres) from the sky and survive if a giant leaf breaks their fall. Likewise, Battlemechs can fall hundreds of metres and those inside will not suffer horrible spinal injuries.
The Colonel kicks open a solid metal door near the end of the movie - apparently it wasn't locked & yet it's the only thing separating the humans from the deadly air outside.
That guy Max helps them escape using his security pass, and he should have been seen on security cameras, but apparently nobody suspects that he was involved in busting them out of the cell.
The whole 'jacking in' process - how in hell does that work if they don't know the avatar's exact location?
placebo
15 Apr 2010, 01:22
Terminator. Really, all the terminators had to do was come back when John was a baby. Easy kill. They win.
Actually cracked.com do a good article on how Terminator doesn't make sense at all:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17390_5-reasons-terminator-franchise-makes-no-goddamn-sense_p2.html
I'm still a fan of T1 & 2 though.
Not sure if the following are moments that I don't get rather than not make any sense, but these two from two of my favourite movies:
1. In The Usual Suspects, at the end when they are discussing how to attack the ship and Stephen Baldwin's character says, "The news says it's raining in New York"
2. In Donnie Darko, at the end just before Jena Malone gets killed and Donnie is being attacked by the bully, he says, "Deux Ex Machina...our saviour." Isn't the Deux Ex Machina the Machine God? Is he implying that Frank the rabbit is God/The Deux Ex Machina?
There are a lot of these in the Harry Potter books and movies, but since I am not a huge fan I don't remember many.
They are often to do with the fact that story's 'quest' for the children is often evenly matched to their level of wizarding education.
For example, I think in the first one, they need to open a locked door guarding something very important. Yet the spell they learnt in first year to open doors works on this! If you were a powerful wizard trying to protect something, why would you allow a locked door to be opened by a spell known by 12-year-olds? It is also funny how in later books/movies, this spell doesn't work in the equivalent situation (very convenient as there is now better magic that our heroes know).
Also, why does Hogwarts bother with Slytherin house? Basically just a breeding ground for the bad guys.
carltonblue
15 Apr 2010, 11:41
What I didn't understand was the whole thing in the second movie. How Obi-Wan gets captured pretty much spying on the bug planet.
So Anakin and Padme take it upon themselves to go and rescue him killing a shitload of the bugs and get captured as well, resulting in the Jedi and the Republic Storm Troopers killing countless citizens to rescue these three who have no doubt broken countless Intergalactic laws.
After that I lost faith in the Republic and was cheering for the Separatists in the resulting Clone War.
Nerd.
DoubleO7
15 Apr 2010, 12:44
Also, why does Hogwarts bother with Slytherin house? Basically just a breeding ground for the bad guys.
Equal opportunity. :p
Mythbusters is good for moments that are scientifically not possible. The scene in the first Pirates movie where they use an upside down boat to create an air pocket underwater comes to mind.Genuine question: Is that not possible?
I always assumed it would be, much like when you tip an upside down cylinder into water and it creates a bubble. Obviously there would only be so much oxygen before you'd need to swim to the surface, but surely it would work?
Jeffers
15 Apr 2010, 13:11
Haven't seen it in ages, but isn't it the guy he help set free who shot the medic earlier on in the movie? Half of them wanted to shoot him after he dug the graves, but he helped set him free.... same guy? Maybe it was meant to be pay back for letting him go?
He did then shoot him right at the end once they surrended after the air support arrived.
IIRC it wasn't the same guy.
The guy that the translator shot in the end was the one who he helped set free and was in a bunker amongst other Germans shooting at Tom Hanks i think. He took his revenge on him then as i think it was he who shot Tom Hanks.
The German who saw him cowering was someone else i think. Been a while since i've seen it so i could be wrong.
Tough scene that one seeing the knife dig slowly into the Jewish American soldier's chest.
Genuine question: Is that not possible?
I always assumed it would be, much like when you tip an upside down cylinder into water and it creates a bubble. Obviously there would only be so much oxygen before you'd need to swim to the surface, but surely it would work?
The problem isn't with breathing under there, it is with travelling with it underwater. The bouyancy generated by that air would float the boat to the surface.
TheStinger
15 Apr 2010, 21:01
The problem isn't with breathing under there, it is with travelling with it underwater. The bouyancy generated by that air would float the boat to the surface.
Theoretically it is possible but the strength required to hold the boat underwater is SuperKingKongMan type strength.
Brad Roo
15 Apr 2010, 21:22
2. In Donnie Darko, at the end just before Jena Malone gets killed and Donnie is being attacked by the bully, he says, "Deux Ex Machina...our saviour." Isn't the Deux Ex Machina the Machine God? Is he implying that Frank the rabbit is God/The Deux Ex Machina?
Director Richard Kelly put the phrase in the film to show that there was some kind of advanced machine someplace in the future at work, manipulating people and sending signals to Donnie in Middlesex. When Donnie mentions this in the film he comes to realize that there really is a Deus Ex Machina. Donnie mutters, "Deus Ex Machina, our saviour" as a car driven by Frank stops nearby, which startles his attackers and causes them to flee. The car acts as the deus ex machina; that is, the unexpected or unprobable device that is introduced to resolve a problem, thus it is Donnie's "saviour."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/faq#.2.1.28
Donnie Darko is a work of genius that will still be getting picked apart, a la Citizen Kane, in 50 years time.
magic_johnson!
15 Apr 2010, 23:06
The problem isn't with breathing under there, it is with travelling with it underwater. The bouyancy generated by that air would float the boat to the surface.
Yeah, true. Done it before in a pool with a bucket over my head. you can stay under water breathing for a long time, but you have to get someone to stand on the bucket to keep you under.
Freo Big Fella
16 Apr 2010, 12:29
I've always thought attacking the machine gun nest in SPR was ridiculous, especially given their mission. Obviously it's there too set up the conflict within the group, but still..
I always thought that was them sticking the middle finger up at high command for giving them a propaganda mission.
Toshowyouwhy
16 Apr 2010, 16:47
Slightly stupid one, but I thought of it yesterday:
Billy Madison. The super hot teacher chick hates Billy, thinks he's an idiot. He does a number of retarded things that completely turns her off him, and you think, yeah that's about right.
Then he sticks up for that one kid, by chucking water on his pants and saying "peeing your pants is cool!!" This is enough to turn the babe onto the retard. Makes no sense.
Fortunately I dont care, because I love that movie :D
Invigoration
16 Apr 2010, 18:57
A 30 year old goes back to grade 1 and your issue is with the relationship he forms with his teacher?
peternorth
16 Apr 2010, 19:32
the neverending story - it ended.
any movie involving massive gun fights. the "hero" never gets shot. well practically never. they'll run past a wall, bullets flying everywhere leaving trails behind him/her, but the shooter doesnt seem to understand that if they shoot in front of the hero for a bit maybe they'll score?
Toshowyouwhy
17 Apr 2010, 11:43
A 30 year old goes back to grade 1 and your issue is with the relationship he forms with his teacher?
Haha I guess your right :p
Wahooti Fandango
17 Apr 2010, 16:25
The Doctor and the Pencil in The Mighty Boosh. :D
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Wahooti Fandango
17 Apr 2010, 16:26
Slightly stupid one, but I thought of it yesterday:
Billy Madison. The super hot teacher chick hates Billy, thinks he's an idiot. He does a number of retarded things that completely turns her off him, and you think, yeah that's about right.
Then he sticks up for that one kid, by chucking water on his pants and saying "peeing your pants is cool!!" This is enough to turn the babe onto the retard. Makes no sense.
Fortunately I dont care, because I love that movie :D
Billy Madison is such a good movie that the fact that many parts of it do not make sense does not matter. :thumbsu:
Toothpick Vic
18 Apr 2010, 10:38
One thing that has never ever made sense for me is in Saw 2 when the big bloke discovers that everyone trapped in the house has a number written on the back of their heads..
Each persons number is part of the code combination to the safe containing the antidote they need to counter the toxic gas they've all been inhaling...
My question is how would the big fella know which order the numbers go (because there was something like 8 people in there)??????
Have I totally missed something here? Was it mentioned earlier in the movie??
One thing that has never ever made sense for me is in Saw 2 when the big bloke discovers that everyone trapped in the house has a number written on the back of their heads..
Each persons number is part of the code combination to the safe containing the antidote they need to counter the toxic gas they've all been inhaling...
My question is how would the big fella know which order the numbers go (because there was something like 8 people in there)??????
Have I totally missed something here? Was it mentioned earlier in the movie??
In the first clue, Jigsaw said something about "over the rainbow." Each person had a different coloured number on the back of their heads, so the right order I assume would be the order of the colours in the rainbow
In 2012, the tsunami destroys the boat in the middle of the ocean. Anyone that knows how tsunamis work knows this doesn't happen like that! The boat clearly wasn't close to the shore and in open water a tsunami is more like a ripple, it only comes out of the water once the water gets shallow
A 30 year old goes back to grade 1 and your issue is with the relationship he forms with his teacher?
haha very nice :thumbsu:
Strike Swiftly
18 Apr 2010, 20:01
I saw a website that meticulously compared the two, and it's not the same guy.
I disagree. Its the same guy. Ive watched the film many a time and its the same bloke. Someone please provide still-frames...
EDIT:
My apologies guys. Found this site that backs up what your saying.
http://www.sproe.com/s/steamboat-comparison.html
Watched this film so many times and never noticed they were different. Will have to re-watch....
Probably my most despised moment of all (once agan in a movie I really like)
Back to The Future Part II:
When Marty (17 years old), Jennifer and Doc leave 1985 to go to 2015 at the start of the movie, Marty sees himself as a 47 year old. How???
He has LEFT 1985, leaped over the next 30 years and arrived in 2015. When he gets to 2015, he should have been missing for 30 years.
You can't say, "Oh, but eventually they go back to 1985 and he gets old"... NO. The movies clearly state that the future is what you make it. It is not pre-determined. When they get to 2015, he hasn't gone back to 1985 yet. How can he see himself as an old man?
Remember in the first movie when Eisntein the dog was the first time traveller? He travelled one minute into the future. The dog leaped over that minute, and for one minute there was no Dog! So, if Marty goes forward 30 years, there should be no Marty getting old in between 1985 and 2015.
Doesn't make sense.
I think it might be the "time-ripple effect", seen in the first film. When Marty prevented his parents meeting, it took some time for the future timeline to unravel, with Dave & Linda McFly slowly fading from the photo. When Doc travels to 2015, he is obviously there for some time, given his extensive research and the improvements to the Delorean. Marty and Jennifer have remained behind, and when Doc takes them forward in time, they are there only 5-6 hours, not long enough to effect the timeline. However, if they had been in 2015 for some time, it might have had some effect on their future selves.
I have some movies of my own, including BTF, that I can't make sense of:
Back to the Future Trilogy - Some things with Biff don't make sense. The punch from George McFly in BTF seemed to change Biff, and when we see him in 1985 again, he is a nice enough guy and friends with the McFlys. But in the second film, we see him in 2015 and he is a bitter, unpleasant old man, and we also see him in action again in 1955 after George punched him, and he is still as nasty as ever.
Hide & Seek - I could never work out whether David Calloway (played by Robert DeNiro) killed his wife and made it look like a suicide, or whether her suicide triggered his psychosis.
The Family Stone - Mr & Mrs Stone have five children, but Mrs Stone says that her youngest kid, Amy, was her fourth pregnancy. It is never referenced whether two of the other kids were twins, or if one was adopted. Maybe a deleted scene caused this anomoly?
Wedding Crashers - John (Owen Wilson) and Jeremy (Vince Vaughn) are kicked off the Cleary estate when exposed by the obnoxious Zach Lodge as "wedding crashers". But while John remains excluded, Jeremy is accepted back without question when he continues to see youngest daughter Gloria (Isla Fisher).
Titanic - Rose is declared dead after the Titanic sinks, but has survived and uses the name "Rose Dawson", and she works as an actress in the 1920s. Wouldn't her ex-fiancee Cal, her mother or other people from the wealthy Philadelphia society where she was raised have recognised her?
DoubleO7
21 Apr 2010, 12:09
Hide & Seek - I could never work out whether David Calloway (played by Robert DeNiro) killed his wife and made it look like a suicide, or whether her suicide triggered his psychosis.
After discovering his wife had an affair, Charlie (David's split personality) killed his wife and then made it appear to be a suicide.
One I don't get, mostly occurs in the current vampire shows/movies but have seen examples in others.
When someone needs to draw their oen blood - they always take a knife to their palm! How a)painful and b)inconvenient is that? Surely you can obtain some of your own blood without sacrificing your ability to grasp something with any real strength?
Or when they allow a vampire to feed on them, half the time they offer a wrist to bite. OWWW! Bite my upper arm or something, the wrist would ****ing hurt like hell!
When there is a bomb to defuse and the terrorists have conveniently installed a large LCD display showing the time remaining. I mean, why would they bother? Happens in countless movies and TV shows.
soupaman
21 Apr 2010, 14:23
When there is a bomb to defuse and the terrorists have conveniently installed a large LCD display showing the time remaining. I mean, why would they bother? Happens in countless movies and TV shows.
If I was a terrorist I would set one of those up except set it up to run 2 or 3 minutes overtime. That way when the hero walks in to defuse it he'd be like "just take your time. There's still 2 minutes to run on this thing". 2 seconds later bomb goes off, I win.
Abba Lonie
21 Apr 2010, 16:12
Billy Madison is such a good movie that the fact that many parts of it do not make sense does not matter. :thumbsu:
Yeah, as if they would just leave that clown lying there with a broken leg and a hemorrhage in his head for weeks on end.
The Old Dark Navy's
22 Apr 2010, 11:12
Any horror movie. Why do people always do the opposite thing than what you would do if you were in the same situation in real life(i.e. run)?
Or when they hit the bad guy with something and they could easy finish the bad guy off but they just drop what they where holding and run.
Yes. One of our friends has just been murdered .... let's stay here until morning. Wait, I am so upset, I just want to be alone. Wait, I know, let's split up, you go look in the barn, I'll check the attic.
If you take the killer out, you beat him in the skull with anything you can get your hands on, until his brains are coming out, so there is no chance of him getting back up again. If that was real life and a psycho was in my house, I would keep hitting him until exhausted, then tie him up, wrapped every inch of his body in tape while waiting for the police to arrive.
A 30 year old goes back to grade 1 and your issue is with the relationship he forms with his teacher?
Agree, that was such a crap movie, can't believe some people rave about it.
Are we allowed to mention the eagles in LOTR? I mean, they rescue Gandalf from Saruman's tower etc - just jump on and say 'Turn left over the volcano, and I'll just drop off the ring there'. Problem solved. 5-minute movie.
I do love all those horror movies where the Professor's Nubile Young Daughter says something like 'Hmm, five people have been savagely attacked by an unknown beast. I think I'll take a midnight stroll around Dead Man's Swamp. On my own. In my flimsy nightie.'
Are we allowed to mention the eagles in LOTR? I mean, they rescue Gandalf from Saruman's tower etc - just jump on and say 'Turn left over the volcano, and I'll just drop off the ring there'. Problem solved. 5-minute movie.
This is something regularly discussed by me and a couple of mates
Kim Hagdorn
20 Oct 2010, 18:44
Are we allowed to mention the eagles in LOTR? I mean, they rescue Gandalf from Saruman's tower etc - just jump on and say 'Turn left over the volcano, and I'll just drop off the ring there'. Problem solved. 5-minute movie.
I didn't get why Sauron didn't bother to leave a couple of guards at the entrance to the volcano.
saint_larry
20 Oct 2010, 18:58
pretty shit movie, and chances are since i wasnt paying enough attentio ive gotten this wrong,
but jumper.
Guy to rachael from the OC - Hey, its been 10 odd years. You should ditch your life, and boyfriend and come to rome with me, after our 3 lines of dialogue.
SOUDNS GOOD.
terrible movie. samuel, possibly your worst moment.
darcytiger
20 Oct 2010, 19:41
The second half of 'From Dusk til Dawn'
Normal movie, I'm really liking it. Some textbook Tarantino dialouge. Then BAM! Salma Hayak turns into a vampire as does the rest of the bar. Very wierd.
charcoalchicken
20 Oct 2010, 21:55
The second half of 'From Dusk til Dawn'
Normal movie, I'm really liking it. Some textbook Tarantino dialouge. Then BAM! Salma Hayak turns into a vampire as does the rest of the bar. Very wierd.
But also very cool I remember watching that movie at a friends house when I was in primary school and loving it, Salma Hayek is so damn sexy in that dance scene.
If Anakin created C3PO, why does he completely ignore his existence after he becomes Darth Vader?
I realise they were retconning with the prequels, but still.
Rod Stroker
20 Oct 2010, 23:42
At the end of Back To Future Part 1, where Marty returns to 1985 and his parents George and Lorraine are "cool". Surely they would have recognized Marty from 1955 when he hooked them up together in the first place? They raised a son who looked exactly like the person who brought them together. Doesn't make any sense.
magic_johnson!
21 Oct 2010, 19:26
Why is the Harry Potter castle so freaking big for so few students?
How hard can it be to find the other houses' common rooms? Surely you would have friends in other houses, or see other people going in the directions?
Magpiespower
22 Oct 2010, 08:32
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None of this Z-Grade cult classic makes any sense.
Does have arguably the greatest line in movie history:
"My stepfather tried to rape me and he's a werewolf".
At the end of Back To Future Part 1, where Marty returns to 1985 and his parents George and Lorraine are "cool". Surely they would have recognized Marty from 1955 when he hooked them up together in the first place? They raised a son who looked exactly like the person who brought them together. Doesn't make any sense.
My suggestion on that one is that perhaps George and Lorraine McFly do not recognise Marty as the kid who helped them in 1955, is that as he is a member of their immediate family they are too close to the situation to see the similarity.
I have often wondered though about other characters who are detached and knew Marty both in 1985 & 1955, such as Principal Strickland and Biff Tannen. Perhaps Strickland was too busy looking for slackers to notice, but Marty caused Biff a great deal of trouble in 1955, ending his days as the town bully, so Biff would have to remember. This appeared to be hinted at in BTF 2, where old Biff realises that the Delorean is a time machine, and puts it together that this is Marty McFly from 1985, who also travelled to 1955. It would explain why Biff gave the sporting statistics book to himself on the same day in 1955, rather than going back to several days before his 21st birthday.
Falchoon
22 Oct 2010, 11:49
The Gideons bible in Mission Impossible.
SolidTiger
22 Oct 2010, 19:49
I know it's not a movie and a T.V series, but there was something that didn't make sense in the Underbelly Golden Mile. I forgot all the names. The dodgy police commissioner started to torment the ex-prostitute because he didn't know how much the policeman with the mostashe (who ran away out of fear of the Royal commission) and the policeman who killed himself told her about the dodgy activities he was involved in.
But in one of the last scenes of the show, it shows the dodgy commissioner telling the guy with the shaved mostashe (which is now shaved off) to lay off harrassing her because there's no point. If the commissioner wanted to know what he told her of their business then why didn't he just ask him instead of getting him to torment her.
SolidTiger
22 Oct 2010, 20:18
Final Destination 3D.
The guy has a premonition of the shopping mall exploding and catching fire, just like at the races. In the disaster many people die. He races off and prevents the fire that causes the disaster.
Under the Final Destination rules 1/ If you save someone who was supposed to die death will try to came after them in unexpected ways. 2/ None of the people can die until it's "their turn". i.e if they try to kill themselves then it won't work.'
Now if the premonition about the shopping mall is like the races then it's assumed that the shopping mall disaster was something that meant to happen. Seeing that the disaster was prevented that means that many people who should have died are now alive. That now means that it should be far from the end of the movie because death will have to work double shift to catch up with all those people who were saved from the shopping mall disaster.
peternorth
22 Oct 2010, 20:35
not just movies but also tv.
more often than not when characters are in conversation, they stand in a semi circle angling towards the camera.
SolidTiger
23 Oct 2010, 07:02
not just movies but also tv.
more often than not when characters are in conversation, they stand in a semi circle angling towards the camera.
Also how the charaters in T.V series (particularly Sci-Fi) seem to get chronic amnesia. For example in one episode there are dealing with a device the turn you invisible and get their hands on it in the end. The following episode they are presented with a situation where the device would come in very handy but forget they aquired such a device in the previous episode.
Aliens vs Predetor 2. From my understanding of the Aliens is that they need a Queen alien who lays the eggs. The face huggers hatch out of eggs and finds a host. The alien hatches out of the host.
In Aliens vs Predetor 2 there was no Queen alien and the amount of aliens in the film should have been no more than the face huggers that excaped from the ship.
kane249
23 Oct 2010, 14:28
Aliens vs Predetor 2. From my understanding of the Aliens is that they need a Queen alien who lays the eggs. The face huggers hatch out of eggs and finds a host. The alien hatches out of the host.
In Aliens vs Predetor 2 there was no Queen alien and the amount of aliens in the film should have been no more than the face huggers that excaped from the ship.
That was explained by the fact that the 'queen' in this instance was an Alien-Predator hybrid and not a like the other ones. You see it in the film that the Alien-Predator hybrid is able to impregnate people itself when it impregnates a ward of pregnant women at the hospital.
If you follow the timeline of the whole Alien series back, they have actually kept that true where the Alien get's some of the properties of the host it hatches from. Eg in Alien 3 the Alien is different then the ones in the previous 2 because it was the result of being hatched from a dog. In Alien 4 the the Queen Alien evovles a different reproductive system because it came from Sigourney Weaver, who in turn was a human-alien hybrid in that movie herself.
kane249
23 Oct 2010, 14:33
Saving Private Ryan.
When the translator hears the fighting upstairs and doesn't rush up there to help. Then the German soldier appears at the top of the stairs (unarmed iirc), he does nothing and lets him walk down the stairs (virtually brushing up against him) and allows him to go on his merry way. And if the yank's actions didn't make any sense, why doesn't the German do away with the translator as he passes by. I'm sure a hardened soldier, even unarmed, would have been able to sort out a weasly little ponce like that.
For mine I always thought the German guy was the same one they let free at the machine gun nest earlier. He recognised the translator as being the guy who had got them to spare his life at the machine gun nest and in return lets him live now. The translator recognises him as the guy who he set free and feels guilty about it now because he realises it was the wrong move. Later on when they surrender the German guy tries to use his sway with the translator again and at this point the translator has had enough of his mistakes and shoots him.
SolidTiger
25 Oct 2010, 21:57
Zombie movies in general. The protagonist wakes up in the hospital at the start of the movie. 28 days later and Resident Evil apocalypse come to mind.
With all the carnage and destruction of the city by the zombie hordes the protagonist survives the initial onslaught by sleeping through it. Keep in mind that the zombies have infiltrated pretty much every building in the city so what are the odds of them not finding this easy meal for them? Okay it may be argued that Umbrella would have had massive security for Alice but it shows Alice just walking out of the building with out having to go through any security barriers whatso ever.
While on the issue of Zombie movies. 28 Weeks later when that guy kissed his infected wife and started the zombie hordes all over again. The people running the operation obviously had the fore thought that she may be dangerous and put her in quantine, but that was all they done. There were no guards or scientists at the quantine to make sure that there is no way for the virus to escape. Also the guy must have been incredibly stupid to kiss her in the first place. Seeing that he is a part of the operation of inhabiting England again he would have been aware of how dangerous the virus is. That was probably the single dumbest moment of anybody in a zombie flick, and there are many dumb moment from people in Zombie movies.