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Matty Elliott must be selected as Slater's opening partner. hayden has had to many lives, which none of which he's grabbed, whereas elliott has had excuses for many of his omissions from the side.
BUBBALOUIS
11 Jan 2001, 11:50
Couldnt agree with you more Catman, Matty Elliott has been treated shabbily in the past, didnt even have an ACB contract last season! He is a class opener, and needs to be given an extended go at the No 1 job.
Bloodstained Angel
11 Jan 2001, 11:53
the problem is Catman, Hayden is a nice bloke who fits in well with the rest of the team.
Elliott is a moody bastard who, no matter how good he is will probably never be selected because he doesn't 'fit in'
I know this sounds like glib rubbish but its true - believe me.
You guys are kidding right!!
What has Elliot done in the last 12 months to deserve a place in the side (a side that has won the last 15 test matches mind you!!)
Cheers
Gonzo
BUBBALOUIS
11 Jan 2001, 12:09
Gonz my freind Matty Elliott scored over 1000 runs last sheild season almost single handidly lifting the Vics into the sheild final then, so well in fact that the ACB gave him a new contract, then over to England to flog their bowling attacks, unfortunately injured start of this shield season but has looked good since resuming, you cant substitute class, we all know what he is capable of.
Jamie Cox (Tas) scored the same if not more runs last season as Elliot, has done stuff all this season (again about the same as Elliot!)
Why should Elliot get in ahead of Cox?
Cheers
Gonzo
Richmondfan#1
11 Jan 2001, 12:32
I reckon Slater should be in the Australian side not the 'A' side. He is all class. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
eastaugh36
11 Jan 2001, 13:57
hopefully ellito wont play for australia again
GoEagles
11 Jan 2001, 14:18
Elliot had his chances - and unfortunately didn't take them. However his form lately has been good and should definately be consdered for the Ashes tour, since he played so well there in 1997. Another opener to watch out for is WA's Mike Hussey - he's got talent and potential, he'd be in the running for the Ashes tour too.
BUBBALOUIS
11 Jan 2001, 14:36
Originally posted by eastaugh36:
hopefully ellito wont play for australia again
Cmon Easty you cant be serious, I suppose Greg Failure Blewett is the man for you
eastaugh36
11 Jan 2001, 14:42
260 n.o ? plus a high average for the shield season (as usual), thats no failure, you obviously dont know cricket if you think thats failure
Could you imagine if Jamie Cox got a game for Australia and got dismissed 1st ball.
Bill Lawry would be yelling out "Cox Out".
Maybe 'Tugga 'Waugh would come into replace him. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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BUBBALOUIS
11 Jan 2001, 15:35
Easty Blewett has had a couple of good games recently but early season form was terrible, did you see him bat for Australia A yesterday? By the way what is his test average? Mid 30's youll find, not good enough!
Slater averaged 28 for the calendar year just finished, Hayden averaged 33.
Slater ran Hayden out twice during the Windies series, making Hayden's sequence of scores look even poorer.
Apart from Slater in the 5th Test, neither of them has been oustanding.
Given the above comparison, why is everyone calling for Hayden's head and not Slater's?
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oh_my_hat
11 Jan 2001, 17:13
Gonzo, I agree with you on Jamie Cox, he is a huge talent and should get a shot one day. My only concern is that he makes most of his runs on the batsman friendly Bellerive Oval but not as many 'away' which may inflate his average a bit. Haven't got any figures to back that up - just a hunch.
I'd like to see Elliot at No. 3 if they want to keep Slater & Hayden at the top of the order. Langer is too inconsistent for me. Perhaps when Mark Waugh retires then Elliot at 3 Langer at 4 Ponting up to 5 & Steve Waugh at 6. I like that line up.
Elliot still needs a few more runs but if he keep racking them up they can't ignore him forever. Katich is also waiting in the wings and the selectors seem to be very high on him.
BUBBALOUIS- Blewett has had more than a few good games, the last 4 Shield matches he's scored a 49, 70, 43, 18, 260 no, 80 and 69. He had 4 failures to start off the year, where he couldn't score even 5 runs. Now he's in good form and playing well. Everyone's bagging Blewett but who else in the A side scored runs??? No one.
I agree though that his one day form hasn't been good, I don't think he's even got to 30 in any 50 over match this year. I see him more as a Test match player but he couldn't be selected in the 4 day Aussie "A" match late last year because of his poor form.
His average is 34 runs in Test matches but I'd like to see what his average was when batting at six. I've always felt he batted better at six, even though he opens or bats at three for South Australia. Blewey scored 3 of his centuries at Test level batting at six and 2 of the 3 times he's been dropped has been after he's been pushed up the order.
I'd like to see Ponting pushed up the order when some of the older players retire and see Blewett bat in the middle order again. Unfortunately though, this will probably never happen as he's already 29, and somewhat pigeonholed as a top order player.
BSA- Yeah, I read somewhere that Elliot was the kind of player that when he was scoring runs, he was great to be around, but when he had a string of failures, he really let it affect him and became moody. Hayden is a great tourist, and a great bloke like you said, while he gets brownie points from the captain because he likes to go on those overseas excursions with Waugh, which I read about in his latest book. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
Bloodstained Angel
12 Jan 2001, 06:34
yeah - I think it is this 'personality / attitude' factor that is keeping Elliott out of the squad.
Thats the only thing though, his form would suggest he deserves consideration.
cheers
BUBBALOUIS
12 Jan 2001, 06:39
If attitude and personality are the main factors how do McGill and Mgrath get games?
In my opinion, Elliot is lucky to have played any test cricket.
Not because his performances haven't warrented selection, but because Slater should never have been dropped.
Cheers.
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Dodongo
12 Jan 2001, 07:30
Dodongo has been thinking and Dodongo doesn't like that idea at all. Why Dodongo doesn't like that idea may you ask? Dodongo doesn't like that idea because it's pathetic. Dodongo likes Elliot but Dodongo thinks Elliot should not open with Slater and replace Dodongo's favourite Hayden. Dodongo wants to know why replace Hayden. Dodongo thinks Hayden did well with batting and fielding scoring some good scores. Hayden would have scored more is slater didn't run out Dodongo's favourite player Hayden. Hayden's fielding is much better than Elliots Dodongo believes and Hayden is a much better player than Elliot. Dodongo thinks there is no way Elliot will make the team.
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BUBBALOUIS
12 Jan 2001, 07:32
Yeah but MARK TAYLOR SHOULD HAVE BEEN DROPPED EARLIER!
I think I agree with you Dodongo, well said.
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eastaugh36
12 Jan 2001, 10:11
elliotts form was crap last time in the australian team
Originally posted by Gonzo:
[B]What has Elliot done in the last 12 months to deserve a place in the side (a side that has won the last 15 test matches mind you!!![B]
What has hayden done?
Originally posted by Catman:
Originally posted by Gonzo:
[B]What has Elliot done in the last 12 months to deserve a place in the side (a side that has won the last 15 test matches mind you!!![B]
What has hayden done?
He's averaged more than Slater!
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As much as I would love to see Elliott in the side, I think Hayden has done OK this summer. We have to give him a chance. If he does not do much in India then he might be in a bit of trouble.
[This message has been edited by dees01 (edited 13 January 2001).]
elliot has had the dick, since he ran into junior at the G, he hasnt recaptured his previous form.
What hapened to Blewett? he went alright last summer , what did he do wrong? maybe he got injured i cant remember..
Elliot got totally spooked in the Windies in 99 and lost the plot. He had a stellar tour in 97 but didn't set the house on fire in County cricket. ( Ian Harvey had a great season there )
The No 3 is the problem. I reckon Ponting. Blewett had 'that problem' with spin that forced him up the batting list. Basically both Elliot and Blewett are excellent state players but need that Steve Waugh grit and discipline ( don't we all ). Waugh ( like Boon ) cut out the shots that he felt were too risky and reinvented himself. These other aspiring players should do the same.