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BUBBALOUIS
21 Jan 2001, 08:13
Matty Elliot 107 off 107 balls, up against Dale. Bichel and Kasprowicz, dont tell me he wont be going to England for the ashes!!!!!
BUBBA
I think he needs to be more consistent before he gets an ASHES trip.
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eastaugh36
21 Jan 2001, 09:53
you downplay blewetts good form and then talk up this turkey who has had many chances
Gee, one good knock doesn't make a summer....I've got a feeling Elliot will be living off that 107 for a while....Elliot's got to go on with it now and keep making scores, but only time will tell....the jury's still out.....
Just some of the crap people said about Blewey's 260no, but now applicable to Elliot's 107.
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BUBBALOUIS
21 Jan 2001, 10:08
Originally posted by eastaugh36:
you downplay blewetts good form and then talk up this turkey who has had many chances
What are you accusing me of Easty, surely not parochialism http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif Matty Elliot is a class above Blewy, and hasnt had as many chances as you suggest, first time out was because Mark Waugh ran into him, second time out due to poor form, third time only had 3 tests. He is a proven performer in England, he made over 1000 runs in Pura Cup last season, smashed county bowlers in Winter, and has made two 80's and three hundreds (two in grade cricket) since hes been back. And to top that hes Victorian!!!!!!!!!!
eastaugh36
21 Jan 2001, 10:18
the victorian bit is a negative if anything !
Blewett is better to watch than elliott, who cant even run between wickets properly and has had his chances, anyway, he has a face only a mother could love !lol
U just keep making an idiot out of ur self dont u easty!
Mags
eastaugh36
21 Jan 2001, 10:51
at least im not ugly
Welldone Matty! About time the Vics showed what they are capable of.
GoEagles
21 Jan 2001, 12:47
BUBBALOUIS - Goodwin still won the top honours for Friday night, scoring 167 off 138 balls... but Matties knock wasn't too bad.
Originally posted by eastaugh36:
the victorian bit is a negative if anything !
Easty,
Wasn't it the great Shane Warne who said that playing for SA was detrimental to a players selection in the Australian team.
10,000 runs on the Adelaide oval isn't worth 5,000 on the MCG in the eyes of the selectors. Think of the grounds - Adelaide = short square boundaries whereas Melbourne has the pitch running across the footy ground.
Smokey
eastaugh36
21 Jan 2001, 14:41
yeah but you dont play at home every game, so it evens out
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mags:
[B]U just keep making an idiot out of ur self dont u easty!
The only one making an idiot of himself is BUBBA. Elliot a class above Blewett?? Turn it up mate. Elliot's Test average is 35, Blewett's is 34. Elliot's first class average is 50, Blewett's is 45. I didn't know classes were divided into 5 run segments.
BUBBA quote- "Elliot's scored 3 hundreds this year, 2 in grade cricket." Grade cricket?? This coming from the person who complained about the calibre of bowlers Blewey faced against Zimbabwe when he scored 131. Any class player can and should score hundreds in grade cricket, so that is hardly going to convince the selectors.
Easty is the only one making sense here. (No one is more shocked than me about this)
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My mother always said not to be a know-it-all and I have never let her down.
Stuff Elliott and Blewett.They've had their chances and blew it [sorry about the pun http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif].
Katich,Hodge,M Hussey and Love should all be given a chance at some time.
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Yeah JUB JUB, I wouldn't mind Katich being given a go soon, but I'd like to see Hodge o have another good year in State cricket, just to consolidate his good work this season, before he gets picked for higher honors. The fact Hussey has an ACB contract indicates he's in future plans but Love I'd say has no chance.
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My mother always said not to be a know-it-all and I have never let her down.
****, easty is bringing his SA biased dribble in here now. Dont pretend u know anything about ANYTHING u little immature piece of shit, u just look stupid, wea re all larfing at you and your pathetic attempts to start wars.
Stop wasting our time and go milk your mother
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I agree with ant about Hodge. After three or four seasons of what could be generously described as patchy form, you'd want more than half a Pura Cup season to be sure that he has got himself out of his form slump, and let him push for national selection. But in the meantime I support his inclusion in any second national XIs so he can be sussed out a bit more against higher opposition.
Elliott and Blewett have both been inconsistent at Test level (and I'm certainly not convinced Damien bloody Martyn is any better) and with their ages being close to 30, maybe it is time to try someone like Katich who has improved gradually each year (except last season where he was recovering from chicken pox and glandular fever).
Mike Hussey also seems groomed for higher honours at Test level, but his form this season has been pretty average, and despite his knock of 94 in the MMC game the other night, he generally doesn't score quickly enough to be a one-day regular.
But if anyone should make the Test side on sheer weight of runs alone, it should be Darren Lehmann who makes runs against any type of bowling, on all grounds, and didn't do much wrong in his five tests (unfairly dropped). Age will count against him but in the end, runs are runs.
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BUBBALOUIS
22 Jan 2001, 07:44
Originally posted by ant:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mags:
[B]U just keep making an idiot out of ur self dont u easty!
The only one making an idiot of himself is BUBBA. Elliot a class above Blewett?? Turn it up mate. Elliot's Test average is 35, Blewett's is 34. Elliot's first class average is 50, Blewett's is 45. I didn't know classes were divided into 5 run segments.
BUBBA quote- "Elliot's scored 3 hundreds this year, 2 in grade cricket." Grade cricket?? This coming from the person who complained about the calibre of bowlers Blewey faced against Zimbabwe when he scored 131. Any class player can and should score hundreds in grade cricket, so that is hardly going to convince the selectors.
Easty is the only one making sense here. (No one is more shocked than me about this)
Now now anty boy, youve just provided stats that show Matty has a better average in both Test and domestic cricket, and then you call me an idiot because i say Matty is a class above Blewett! I personally dont need stats to prove my point, i can guage that by watching both players bat. Elliot if not for his knee injury would have become the best Test opener in the world, maybe he still will. Katich and Maher are better prospects than Blewett!
Originally posted by BUBBALOUIS:
Now now anty boy, youve just provided stats that show Matty has a better average in both Test and domestic cricket, and then you call me an idiot because i say Matty is a class above Blewett! I personally dont need stats to prove my point, i can guage that by watching both players bat. Elliot if not for his knee injury would have become the best Test opener in the world, maybe he still will. Katich and Maher are better prospects than Blewett!
Bubba, since when does having an average of one more run, provide any conclusive proof as to who ther better player is?
And can you substantiate your hypothesis about Elliott WOULD HAVE been the best blah blah blah. Maybe he would have been the best if he hadn't played only 17 Tests and could actually get a game in the first team.
I am an Elliott fan, so this isn't a biased comment on my part, just letting you know that drivel and hypothesis doesn't make a good argument.
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BUBBALOUIS
22 Jan 2001, 09:09
Darky, Elliots first class average as stated by ANT is 50 as against Blewetts 45 (of which alot of scores would of been at the Adelaide Oval) But anyway ill give it to you that these stats are not conclusive proof one way or the other, although i dont think i said that the averages were, my drivel and hypothesis as you put it, is merely my opinion of the two batsmen, opinion are neither right or wrong there just opinions, so no amount of 'evidence' by either side of the argument will prove my opinion wrong because it is an opinion not a UNDISPUTABLE FACT. But if you and Ant want to name call me because i have an opinion which differs to yours, no problems i can live with that. My opinion is that Matthew Elliot IS, HAS AND WILL BE a better opener than Greg Blewett.
BUBBALOUIS
22 Jan 2001, 09:11
Originally posted by GoEagles:
BUBBALOUIS - Goodwin still won the top honours for Friday night, scoring 167 off 138 balls... but Matties knock wasn't too bad.
Goodwins knock must have been sensational to watch. Wouldnt the Zimbabweans love to have him playing for them this afternoon. Can he still become eligible to play for Australia or has he missed the boat?
I agree that Elliott is better than Blewett, but I was pointing out that a miniscule difference in averages isn't conclusive. If you want first-class averages try Bevan's 55, Lehmann's 54 or Hayden's 53. Gilchrist's is only about 43 does that make him a dud?
Of course it doesn't. What IS more conclusive is that no matter how many runs Blewett makes domestically, he struggles against world-class spinners. And what IS conclusive is that Elliott probably hasn't had enough cricket yet to be pushing for a national recall. Don't even bother bringing up district hundreds because they count for nothing in the greater scheme of things. I hope Elliott makes the tour of England, and given a good run of scores between now and the end of the season, I think his name will be up there. However, one good innings in a MMC game is a bit premature.
For the record, my 16-man England squad would be :
S.Waugh (c), Gilchrist (vc), Hayden, Slater, Langer, M.Waugh, Ponting, B.Lee, Gillespie, Warne, McGrath, Katich, MacGill, Lehmann, Dale, Symonds or Bevan
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eastaugh36
22 Jan 2001, 09:28
ss11, you idiot, I am supporting blewett and you have the victorians supporting elliott, it works both ways, if youre anything like the organisation named after you then you need a life
HAHAHAHA easty i know ur an idiot, u dont have to prove it to me
what organisation is called ss11 anyway?
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eastaugh36
22 Jan 2001, 12:02
ss11 you proved it by your ridiculous pst in here, up yours !
GoEagles
22 Jan 2001, 12:39
Goodwin probably would qualify to represent Australia since he lives here full time and holds an Australian passport, however he says he won't return playing international cricket with Zimbabwe and would prefer to stay in Perth with the Warriors.
But I think his chances of making the Australian side are very slim.
Goodwin started the season without even being an automatic selection for WA. With Katich, Martyn and Langer absent he gets a spot. If/when these players return, he should retain his spot, now that his form will put him ahead of Ryan Campbell. So the first team batting six would be Hussey, Goodwin, Langer, Martyn, Moody, Katich with Gilchrist at 7.
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Originally posted by BUBBALOUIS:
But if you and Ant want to name call me because i have an opinion which differs to yours, no problems i can live with that. My opinion is that Matthew Elliot IS, HAS AND WILL BE a better opener than Greg Blewett. [/B]
Sorry about the name calling BUBBA, I realise being called an idiot can have a devastating effect on a Victorian's psyche, regardless of what you say. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Matty and Greg, as our opinions differ greatly. What I don't appreciate is the outlandish and premature drivel you write about Victorian cricketers.
Topics such as "Hodgies the man" and "Matthew Elliot Class", are really annoying for me, a South Aussie, because of your blatant Vic bias and I often feel compelled to respond, sometimes harshly and in turn I show my SA bias, though more in retaliation of your statements.
Your are of course free to post whatever opinions you have, whatever nonsense you deem fit for this board and I will continue to rebuff, where ever and whenever I can.
BTW, thanks Darky for your unbiased thoughts on this subject.
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BUBBALOUIS
23 Jan 2001, 03:51
Ant does my Victorian bias really show? Who would of thought? Ha ha, i will keep posting drivel and would love for you to keep responding in kind. PS. i have been called worse than an idiot in my time, but that probably doesnt surprise you. By the way great games from Warne and Harvey last night http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
eastaugh36
23 Jan 2001, 07:19
and an even better one from lehmann
BUBBALOUIS
23 Jan 2001, 07:41
Easty, Lehmann even fielded well! One SA i do like because he learnt his craft in Victoria http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif
eastaugh36
23 Jan 2001, 13:59
crap, he spent 1 or 2 seasons there !
3 seasons from memory, his form was good but he always looked more at home in the SA side. He was also unfortunate to cop an eye injury in a club net session at Carlton during what I think was his last season here.
He had already established himself as a star at Shield level by the time he came to Victoria. I trust your comment was tongue in cheek, Bubba!
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BUBBALOUIS
24 Jan 2001, 04:08
Originally posted by Darky:
3 seasons from memory, his form was good but he always looked more at home in the SA side. He was also unfortunate to cop an eye injury in a club net session at Carlton during what I think was his last season here.
He had already established himself as a star at Shield level by the time he came to Victoria. I trust your comment was tongue in cheek, Bubba!
Yeah, youve got me there Darky, still even so i do like watching him bat, always aggressive always looking to get on top of the bowling. In a different era im sure he would of been a regular top class Test player, but i guess you could say that about a few guys, Siddons and Law come to mind. Cheers
Agreed - Boof is a legend!
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wayne's son
26 Jan 2001, 10:50
well elliott just rocks so if hes not in the ashes squad there idiots ok thats all im say and jubjub u suck ass like talkin south park how old r u
Back Seat Of A Taxi
26 Jan 2001, 10:53
2 words sum up Matthew Elliot: "Pea Heart".
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speaking of Boof....
the one thing you guys seem to be overlooking is the tour of India which omes up before the Ashes.
I would rate Lehmann as one of the top 2 players of Spin in the Country (behind Mark Waugh) because he moves his feet quickly and decisively.
He should go to India and bat at 3 or 4.
ptw
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wayne's son:
jubjub u suck ass like talkin south park how old r u
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What are you on about ?
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BUBBALOUIS
27 Jan 2001, 10:15
Matty Elliot 112 from 118 balls again today!!! Cmon you Elliot knockers where are you PS Hodge 50 not out
Originally posted by BUBBALOUIS:
Matty Elliot 112 from 118 balls again today!!! Cmon you Elliot knockers where are you PS Hodge 50 not out
Good knock once again. But even after two one-day centuries, who does he replace out of the one-day team http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif ?
And before that incites a barrage of Victorian parochialism, may I add that I have mentioned before I am a fan of his so I don't consider myself one of the "knockers" you referred to!
Elliot's all class Bubba, if he doesn't go on and play 100 Tests and score 8,000 I'll be very surprised. What a top player.... I say drop M. Waugh and put him into the team. I'll say it one more time, just for you BUBBA, Elliot's all class. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
BUBBALOUIS
28 Jan 2001, 09:01
Originally posted by ant:
Elliot's all class Bubba, if he doesn't go on and play 100 Tests and score 8,000 I'll be very surprised. What a top player.... I say drop M. Waugh and put him into the team. I'll say it one more time, just for you BUBBA, Elliot's all class. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
Nice to see youve come to your senses Ant. If i didnt know better id think your taking the Mickey out of me. But i know you wouldnt do that http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif Anyway seriously i know he hasnt got an opening in either the Test team or One dayers yet, i just think hes name should be called for the touring parties and first cab off the rank for an available opening spot. But i was right he is all class http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif