View Full Version : Reimers is a fake
TheDon35
26 Apr 2010, 14:36
I've been happy to go along with the train of thought that Reimers is a tough, hard edged player despite never really seeing it.
To this point in time though, Reimers biggest claim to fame is getting in a fight with Scott Lucas (club legend) in an intra club practice match.
Lets get this straight. Pushing and shoving players on the field with no real fear of any retaliation is not tough, it's actually pretty gutless. Rarely is Reimers seen putting his body on the line in a meaningful way or sacrificing himself for his team mates.
Currently Reimers is a fake. He doesn't work hard, he doesn't apply any consistent positive actions on the field, he doesn't find genuine physical contact anywhere near enough for a supposedly 'tough' player, and his performance are below where you'd expect a player of his natural abilities to be.
Maybe he's read too many of the posts on these boards about him reimerring people and thinks he's done enough. Or maybe he's just no good?
Sigmund
26 Apr 2010, 14:47
Who has ever claimed he is tough? Annoying, niggling, much-hated, aggravating.... but certainly not tough...I actually think he has looked like one of our most dangerous players this year.. at least something looks like it is going to happen when he has it.. and he actually likes to kick the footy
IMO he is one of the players that has a go every week.
Tailypo
26 Apr 2010, 14:58
If our players had even half his confidence we'd be better. It's what the team lacks most right now, apart from skills of course (though I think the two concepts intertwine a bit).
Would be one of two or three that deserve to wear the red and black at the moment.
EssendonPride
26 Apr 2010, 15:22
I've been happy to go along with the train of thought that Reimers is a tough, hard edged player despite never really seeing it.
To this point in time though, Reimers biggest claim to fame is getting in a fight with Scott Lucas (club legend) in an intra club practice match.
Lets get this straight. Pushing and shoving players on the field with no real fear of any retaliation is not tough, it's actually pretty gutless. Rarely is Reimers seen putting his body on the line in a meaningful way or sacrificing himself for his team mates.
Currently Reimers is a fake. He doesn't work hard, he doesn't apply any consistent positive actions on the field, he doesn't find genuine physical contact anywhere near enough for a supposedly 'tough' player, and his performance are below where you'd expect a player of his natural abilities to be.
Maybe he's read too many of the posts on these boards about him reimerring people and thinks he's done enough. Or maybe he's just no good?
Are you for real? No good? One of the only blokes that looks like he's actually trying. Hasn't been great, but far, far off being one of our worst.
He loves the niggle, that somehow makes him gutless? I've never heard himself claim he was "tough". He's a fake because you dont think he's living up to your expectations?
You say he doesn't seem to put his body on the line, seen him squib a contest?
Terrible post. Many more deserving targets.
TheDon35
26 Apr 2010, 16:14
Who has ever claimed he is tough? Annoying, niggling, much-hated, aggravating.... but certainly not tough...I actually think he has looked like one of our most dangerous players this year.. at least something looks like it is going to happen when he has it.. and he actually likes to kick the footy
Go and read posts about him and there is a consistent line of thought that he's hard and tough... It's crap.
He was dropped after round 1 for being awful. As for looking dandgerous... Get real
A fake?? What did the aliens do with the real one then?
TheDon35
26 Apr 2010, 16:18
If our players had even half his confidence we'd be better. It's what the team lacks most right now, apart from skills of course (though I think the two concepts intertwine a bit).
What's confidence got to do with the topic.
The Donners
26 Apr 2010, 16:19
100% disagree with the OP.
Knights is really good at dropping players that are just trying to find their feet at the top flight but when it comes to Winderlich, Welsh, McVeigh... he's soft in the testes.
Ben the Gooner
26 Apr 2010, 16:20
If Reimers' current form was our biggest worry, we'd be well inside the 8. He's been pretty good since his return in Rd 3.
As for his claim to fame thing, that's a bit of a stretch. Played very well in 2008 and was directly responsible for the last quarter blitz which beat Carlton in Rd 13.
TheDon35
26 Apr 2010, 16:28
Are you for real? No good? One of the only blokes that looks like he's actually trying. Hasn't been great, but far, far off being one of our worst.
He loves the niggle, that somehow makes him gutless? I've never heard himself claim he was "tough". He's a fake because you dont think he's living up to your expectations?
You say he doesn't seem to put his body on the line, seen him squib a contest?
Terrible post. Many more deserving targets.
Point by point:
No he's not our worst player. Yes there are other players that have been worse than him. Pretty poor arguement for a player to escape criticism though.
Yes. The process of pushing, shoving, niggling on an AFL football field requires no courage or guts and therefore is gutless. Particuarly when it's not backed up by consistently putting his body on the line.
When I first watched him play. I though he was terrible. It only took a few games to see how much skill and talent he had. This is nothing to do with my expectations. Simply a post on his total output to date over his 3 and a bit years at the club. He's been ordinary and is one of the players that must stand up.
Sigmund
26 Apr 2010, 16:28
Go and read posts about him and there is a consistent line of thought that he's hard and tough... It's crap.
He was dropped after round 1 for being awful. As for looking dandgerous... Get real
Unfortunately, I am being real... and this is a sad indictment on where our team is at - at the moment... As for anyone previously posting he is tough, well, they are wrong... but this does not mean he has not been one of our more dangerous looking players this year...
Mrs Mercuri
26 Apr 2010, 16:50
haha now i have read it all... Reimers... fake... WTF
We need a few more players with his grit and attitude.
Tailypo
26 Apr 2010, 16:55
What's confidence got to do with the topic.
Well the original post seemed fairly anti-Reimers so I thought I'd throw a positive out there.
Boucks09
26 Apr 2010, 17:29
I've been happy to go along with the train of thought that Reimers is a tough, hard edged player despite never really seeing it.
Why wouldn't you base your opinion on what you see for yourself? I don't understand why people based their opinions on what the masses think.
To this point in time though, Reimers biggest claim to fame is getting in a fight with Scott Lucas (club legend) in an intra club practice match.
I dare say winning a NAB Rising Star nomination and playing vital roles in various wins far outweighs a minor scrap on the training track.
Lets get this straight. Pushing and shoving players on the field with no real fear of any retaliation is not tough, it's actually pretty gutless.
Gutless? At least he is making his presence felt. I'd rather have a bloke shape up to somebody in a bit of push and shove, over somebody that does piss weak jump grabs and stuff under a back. He is in the face of his opponent and it is what gets him going. He has a dip and genuinely wants to beat his opposition. You can't say that for many of his team mates.
Rarely is Reimers seen putting his body on the line in a meaningful way or sacrificing himself for his team mates.
Epic fail. Reimers runs in straight lines and does not deviate his attention away from the ball. Perhaps you base your opinions on the masses because you don't watch our games? The kid goes hard.
Currently Reimers is a fake. He doesn't work hard, he doesn't apply any consistent positive actions on the field, he doesn't find genuine physical contact anywhere near enough for a supposedly 'tough' player, and his performance are below where you'd expect a player of his natural abilities to be.
What is he faking exactly? The hype and the reality may be a little different but he plays a role in the side. Just because the teenagers think he is something, that doesn't mean that is the role he is playing.
I agree that he needs to work on his defensive running....but then so do 95% of our side.
So I guess when you are close to BOG in Round 3 and one of the few players who stood up when the game was on the line (for 10 minutes) on ANZAC Day you are not making a consistent contribution?
What are his performances below exactly? He was a pick 50ish player, coming off cronic injuries and has played 20-30 games. He is still young so I'm not sure exactly what you are comparing him with?
Maybe he's read too many of the posts on these boards about him reimerring people and thinks he's done enough. Or maybe he's just no good?
Perhaps.
But I'd be backing him in over most others in our side atm.
quotemokc
26 Apr 2010, 17:35
I was laughing at a boisterous Collingwood supporter that was shouting out and calling Reimers a showpony with no skill and I was just sitting there thinking to myself.
"coming from a supporter of a team that has Didak, Davis and of course lets not forget Thomas the biggest showpony in the league"
quotemokc
26 Apr 2010, 17:58
what a rubbish OP.
Me? If so what part?
Reimers has looked this year.
Has shown class and poise often enough.
He needs to be settled in one position which should be the forward line.
fishguts
26 Apr 2010, 18:33
Me? If so what part?
OP = Original Poster.
Frothies Mcveigh
26 Apr 2010, 19:00
Rubbish.
Reimers has been one of our better players this year and gives it his all every game.
The Great Barry Besanko
26 Apr 2010, 19:00
Who the **** gives a shit if anyone thinks he's tough or not, or whether he thinks he's tough.
Should not have been dropped Rd 2 and should be played more in the middle.
FFS we're getting killed in the midfield, we're short of quality midfielders and now bagging one of our better contributors. Sheesh!!!
Bombers_Forever
26 Apr 2010, 19:41
Would be one of two or three that deserve to wear the red and black at the moment.
Exactly. He is at least having a go and showing passion. He is a bigger contributor at the moment than most of the midfield.
Shane Hird
26 Apr 2010, 21:19
I'll tell ya who's a ####ing fake in this team and it doesn't include the nutter from Bunbury..
Dyson is a fake, so is NLM, so is Slattery, and Winderlich too....have a go at these four before Reimers.
They do NOTHING! At least Reimers does SOMETHING!!
Push and shove and give the opposition the @@@ts...aggressive attitude at all times during a match.Thats how they play football in country W.A footy.
windyhill
26 Apr 2010, 21:48
I wish his tatts were, they are shithouse.
Donakebab
26 Apr 2010, 22:08
Go and read posts about him and there is a consistent line of thought that he's hard and tough... It's crap.
He was dropped after round 1 for being awful. As for looking dandgerous... Get real
Did you even watch the Geelong game? He would have been in our top 5 that night. 14 possies, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal. He looked dangerous and actually had a dip when the game was on the line. He was dropped in place for Myers/McVeigh as Knights wanted another defender to come into the side to try and cover Freo's small forwards. Obviously that was a mistake, but he certainly wasn't dropped on form.
He's not a 'tough' player as in an enforcer, but he does get worked up and go a bit aggro. Nothing wrong with a bit of aggression, but he needs to control it better. Against Collingwood (first quarter from memory) we got a free kick on the forward flank. Instead of providing an option he was too busy getting in O'Brian and Shaw's faces. Very stupid and probably cost us a goal.
lamaros
27 Apr 2010, 00:41
He's not fake. But he doesn't do anywhere near enough without the ball yet to justify the rubbish people on this board say about him.
Did you even watch the Geelong game? He would have been in our top 5 that night. 14 possies, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal. He looked dangerous and actually had a dip when the game was on the line. He was dropped in place for Myers/McVeigh as Knights wanted another defender to come into the side to try and cover Freo's small forwards. Obviously that was a mistake, but he certainly wasn't dropped on form.
He's not a 'tough' player as in an enforcer, but he does get worked up and go a bit aggro. Nothing wrong with a bit of aggression, but he needs to control it better. Against Collingwood (first quarter from memory) we got a free kick on the forward flank. Instead of providing an option he was too busy getting in O'Brian and Shaw's faces. Very stupid and probably cost us a goal.
He was dropped on form - Knights said so at his Press Conference after the Carlton game.
mark1881
27 Apr 2010, 09:31
Last few weeks Remiers has been great. Make no mistake he loves the niggle and if someone had a crack one day, he'd retaliate without hesitation. If getting niggling gets him fired up and makes him play better then i'm happy for him to get stuck in.
He also seems a little more restrained these days, he's niggly without giving away stupid free-kicks, a-lah McVeigh a few years back.
Slattery_20
27 Apr 2010, 09:52
I was laughing at a boisterous Collingwood supporter that was shouting out and calling Reimers a showpony with no skill and I was just sitting there thinking to myself.
"coming from a supporter of a team that has Didak, Davis and of course lets not forget Thomas the biggest showpony in the league"
Jeeeez how arrogant are you. Would love Thomas or Didak at the moment.
Reimers has one terrible week to every good one. Inconsistent. I guess similar to Thomas a year ago, or Davis about 4 years ago.
chook12
27 Apr 2010, 11:34
I've been happy to go along with the train of thought that Reimers is a tough, hard edged player despite never really seeing it.
To this point in time though, Reimers biggest claim to fame is getting in a fight with Scott Lucas (club legend) in an intra club practice match.
Lets get this straight. Pushing and shoving players on the field with no real fear of any retaliation is not tough, it's actually pretty gutless. Rarely is Reimers seen putting his body on the line in a meaningful way or sacrificing himself for his team mates.
Currently Reimers is a fake. He doesn't work hard, he doesn't apply any consistent positive actions on the field, he doesn't find genuine physical contact anywhere near enough for a supposedly 'tough' player, and his performance are below where you'd expect a player of his natural abilities to be.
Maybe he's read too many of the posts on these boards about him reimerring people and thinks he's done enough. Or maybe he's just no good?
You're a ****ing clown. Reimers was the only player that could hold his head up high on Sunday. The only sure player in the team. Your obivously a bandwagon ****wit who has no clue about the game.
Slattery_20
27 Apr 2010, 11:36
You're a ****ing clown. Reimers was the only player that could hold his head up high on Sunday. The only sure player in the team. Your obivously a bandwagon ****wit who has no clue about the game.
You can't go sledging people for jumping on a bandwagon, when you've been joined less than a month (I'm tipping joined: roughly 6pm Apr25th ?).
You can't go sledging people for jumping on a bandwagon, when you've been joined less than a month (I'm tipping joined: roughly 6pm Apr25th ?).It's cawshezy, just ignore him.
I've been happy to go along with the train of thought that Reimers is a tough, hard edged player despite never really seeing it.
To this point in time though, Reimers biggest claim to fame is getting in a fight with Scott Lucas (club legend) in an intra club practice match.
Lets get this straight. Pushing and shoving players on the field with no real fear of any retaliation is not tough, it's actually pretty gutless. Rarely is Reimers seen putting his body on the line in a meaningful way or sacrificing himself for his team mates.
Currently Reimers is a fake. He doesn't work hard, he doesn't apply any consistent positive actions on the field, he doesn't find genuine physical contact anywhere near enough for a supposedly 'tough' player, and his performance are below where you'd expect a player of his natural abilities to be.
Maybe he's read too many of the posts on these boards about him reimerring people and thinks he's done enough. Or maybe he's just no good?
Oh dear. I think you just found one of the only blokes out there having a go..... :o
bacon buster
27 Apr 2010, 15:57
this thread is good for the tip. shocking call.
U Got Reimered
27 Apr 2010, 17:03
Urge to kill... Rising...
But seriously how could you have a go at Reimers for being fake? You are entitled to your opinion but MY opinion is that Reimers is no fake. I love watching him play.
One thing you can always count on Reimers for is standing up for his team mates, which is more than can be said for some others. I still remember when we played Carlton in round 3. Thornton was getting into Gumby's face and Reimers came from no where and almost flattened him (almost gave a free kick away).. While this may not mean he is "tough", at least he gets in their and makes sure the opposition know he is there..
And let's not forget him getting into Solomon's face in one of his first games. That is when I developed my little man crush..
TheDon35
27 Apr 2010, 17:49
Urge to kill... Rising...
But seriously how could you have a go at Reimers for being fake? You are entitled to your opinion but MY opinion is that Reimers is no fake. I love watching him play.
One thing you can always count on Reimers for is standing up for his team mates, which is more than can be said for some others. I still remember when we played Carlton in round 3. Thornton was getting into Gumby's face and Reimers came from no where and almost flattened him (almost gave a free kick away).. While this may not mean he is "tough", at least he gets in their and makes sure the opposition know he is there..
And let's not forget him getting into Solomon's face in one of his first games. That is when I developed my little man crush..
Ha ha ha. So getting into Solomans face makes him tough??? That's pathetic but whatever gets you aroused.
The problem is, he niggles and carries on sometimes, that's fine, but he also spends alot of time completely missing in action and rarely puts his body on the line. Too many have been fooled by the false brovado into thinking he's a tough or couragous player... The point of this thread.
As i've said on many occasions, he's an extremely talented player who needs to be doing more on a consistent basis. If he could do that then he'd be great for us. Until then, by bobbing up and kicking the odd junk time goal, he's just a fly on the nose.
TheDon35
27 Apr 2010, 17:53
You're a ****ing clown. Reimers was the only player that could hold his head up high on Sunday. The only sure player in the team. Your obivously a bandwagon ****wit who has no clue about the game.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha....
As for the bandwagon, there's been nothing to jump on for 8 years because we've been ****ing pathetic for the most part of it you ****ing clown.
Having a joker bob around like a little chimpanze pushing and shoving and pointing up at the scoreboard in a rabble side is hardly the answer to us going forward.
U Got Reimered
27 Apr 2010, 18:05
Ha ha ha. So getting into Solomans face makes him tough??? That's pathetic but whatever gets you aroused.
The problem is, he niggles and carries on sometimes, that's fine, but he also spends alot of time completely missing in action and rarely puts his body on the line. Too many have been fooled by the false brovado into thinking he's a tough or couragous player... The point of this thread.
As i've said on many occasions, he's an extremely talented player who needs to be doing more on a consistent basis. If he could do that then he'd be great for us. Until then, by bobbing up and kicking the odd junk time goal, he's just a fly on the nose.
When did I say that getting into Solomon's face was tough? I just said that's when I started liking him...
What I am failing to understand is who is calling him tough? Did I miss the press conference with Reimers and Knights making a statement that Reimers was the resident tough man?
Like someone else has said, don't blame Reimers for not living up to your expectations.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha....
As for the bandwagon, there's been nothing to jump on for 8 years because we've been ****ing pathetic for the most part of it you ****ing clown.
Having a joker bob around like a little chimpanze pushing and shoving and pointing up at the scoreboard in a rabble side is hardly the answer to us going forward.Please refrain from the personal abuse.
The poster in question has been dealt a card and is a serial troll. Ignore him.
Smyth94
27 Apr 2010, 20:16
Terrible OP - Reimers was one of the few on Sunday who actually had the confidence to kick the footy out of defence - he has a crack, so what if he does all the chest shoving and jumper punching? If that's his way to fire himself up then so be it!
He's playing good footy and we've just lost two of our most "in form" players if that phrase can be applied to Essendon at the moment.
TheDon35
28 Apr 2010, 13:25
Righto,
Just like to clear a few things up.
1, I like Reimers and think he has a big roll to play in our future.
2, I went too hard with the title of this thread as no i haven't heard him call himself tough so for that I apologise for those who have got their nickers in a knot.
3, The idea behind this thread is that if you read through posts within big footy about him, there's consistent refference and implied comments about him being a 'tough' player. I disagree that on the evidence of his output he is 'tough' in the true sense of the word. Yes he niggles, yes, he carries on, that's fine, I just think he's capable of more output.
Could 'Riemers be a fake' have anything to do with us, the supporters putting him on this pedastal in which we place him upon? Is he able to handle this pressure? could the fact we are struggling as a team have anything to do with this? him as a forward also have anything to do with this?
SirJimi05
28 Apr 2010, 17:44
Reimers has one terrible week to every good one. Inconsistent. I guess similar to Thomas a year ago, or Davis about 4 years ago.
One of our few consistant players this year. Hopefully for you you were refering to past years?
stander
28 Apr 2010, 18:48
Could 'Riemers be a fake' have anything to do with us, the supporters putting him on this pedastal in which we place him upon? Is he able to handle this pressure? could the fact we are struggling as a team have anything to do with this? him as a forward also have anything to do with this?
Reimers enjoys himself on the ground, has a crack and creates a stir, and the supporters of EFC are clinging to this at the moment, given the current drought. The phony supporters choose to label him a fake for their own agendas.
YouveBeenReimered
29 Apr 2010, 16:16
Who cares if he's tough or not. He gets into opponents heads and is an extremely gifted footballer. Has a go every week and has enourmous potential to be a fantastic 200+ game player for us.
Righto,
Just like to clear a few things up.
1, I like Reimers and think he has a big roll to play in our future.
2, I went too hard with the title of this thread as no i haven't heard him call himself tough so for that I apologise for those who have got their nickers in a knot.
3, The idea behind this thread is that if you read through posts within big footy about him, there's consistent refference and implied comments about him being a 'tough' player. I disagree that on the evidence of his output he is 'tough' in the true sense of the word. Yes he niggles, yes, he carries on, that's fine, I just think he's capable of more output.
Glad you cleared that up. Hopefully you're next thread will be more considered.
Bombers36
29 Apr 2010, 20:59
Is he a fake?
Did he fake breaking his hand?
Seriously - he has been one of our best players this year and has a tonne of potential.
I love the way he plays, his spirit & attitude
hes no bloody fake
Can anyone shed light on exactly how Reimers broke his hand ?
No mention of it being an on-field incident.
U Got Reimered
30 Apr 2010, 11:04
Can anyone shed light on exactly how Reimers broke his hand ?
No mention of it being an on-field incident.
The Herald Sun said that he injured it during the ANZAC Day match.
Sorry I don't have a link to the article but I definately read it.
The Herald Sun said that he injured it during the ANZAC Day match.
Sorry I don't have a link to the article but I definately read it.
I doubt it !
The hand wasn't x-rayed until Tuesday.
Reimers IMO is a good little player...
U Got Reimered
1 May 2010, 23:23
I doubt it !
The hand wasn't x-rayed until Tuesday.
And?