It hurts..

[Ricky]

First of all let me just say that I've been a bomber fan for the 18 years of my life. I'm going to vent some of my frustrations here, not just at the players but at some of YOU! as well..


Ricky Dyson - Rate this guy a lot. Can kick a footy and on his day can be very damaging. Yeah I know, most of you blokes will "stop reading here" but the guy can play.



Jason Winderlich - Has been a bit down to the start of this year obviously, but he is the lining breaking, quick midfielder that we need in the side (barring injury) with Lovett disappearing.



Mark McVeigh & Andrew Welsh - People calling for their head. Oh Jesus! McVeigh was fantastic on Davis on Sunday. He was given a job to do on Davis and did his job, it doesn't matter how many touches he gets, his job was to shut Davis down and he did that. Certain starter next week. Welsh almost was never going to play football again after last year's incident. The same thing is happening with him as what happened with Nathan Brown at Richmond. He will be better as the season goes on.



Courtenay Dempsey - This kid is a superstar! Only played about 30-40 games remember that, so he is still getting experience into him. NEED that run off the half back line.



Jake Melksham & Travis Colyer - People saying they rid rest, pure bullshit! These kids need to play and they will be better off for the long run. Melksham puts his body on the line all the time and wins the hard ball. Colyer backs himself in tight situations. I saw in a different post that someone said "they have yet to see Melksham run out 4 quarters". FFS! You go from the speed in TAC Cup Football to AFL Level Football and see if you can run it out.



Kyle Reimers - This is my only negative on a player. Kyle, you need to focus more on finding the football than picking fights when we're 10 goals down. You have amazing potential and have the ability to find the football. Worry more about the ball than the player.



Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end


Now to vent my frustration on some people.

It makes my blood boil when people IMMEDIATELY picked out the negatives. Some people just come to our games and hang shit on us! It frustrates the hell out of me to the stage where I'm wanting to tell you them to get out or support the team.

I come on here and all I see is negativity. Yes I know it's hard after a disappointing loss against a fierce rival, but people making uncalled for changes and saying "he's shit" "nowhere near AFL Standard". I attend games to support my team, when something doesn't go right, move on, there's nothing that can be done about it.

With Matthew Knights, I will always support the bloke until he resigns or gets the sack. He has a much better idea of what to do than any of us in this forum. He would have a Level 3 AFL Coaching Accreditation, a lot higher accreditation then any of us what have I would think.

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Believe what you want! But this is my opinion. Open to criticism but this is the way I feel.

[ChelseaFC]

First of all let me just say that I've been a bomber fan for the 18 years of my life. I'm going to vent some of my frustrations here, not just at the players but at some of YOU! as well..


Ricky Dyson - Rate this guy a lot. Can kick a footy and on his day can be very damaging. Yeah I know, most of you blokes will "stop reading here" but the guy can play.



Jason Winderlich - Has been a bit down to the start of this year obviously, but he is the lining breaking, quick midfielder that we need in the side (barring injury) with Lovett disappearing.



Mark McVeigh & Andrew Welsh - People calling for their head. Oh Jesus! McVeigh was fantastic on Davis on Sunday. He was given a job to do on Davis and did his job, it doesn't matter how many touches he gets, his job was to shut Davis down and he did that. Certain starter next week. Welsh almost was never going to play football again after last year's incident. The same thing is happening with him as what happened with Nathan Brown at Richmond. He will be better as the season goes on.



Courtenay Dempsey - This kid is a superstar! Only played about 30-40 games remember that, so he is still getting experience into him. NEED that run off the half back line.



Jake Melksham & Travis Colyer - People saying they rid rest, pure bullshit! These kids need to play and they will be better off for the long run. Melksham puts his body on the line all the time and wins the hard ball. Colyer backs himself in tight situations. I saw in a different post that someone said "they have yet to see Melksham run out 4 quarters". FFS! You go from the speed in TAC Cup Football to AFL Level Football and see if you can run it out.



Kyle Reimers - This is my only negative on a player. Kyle, you need to focus more on finding the football than picking fights when we're 10 goals down. You have amazing potential and have the ability to find the football. Worry more about the ball than the player.



Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end


Now to vent my frustration on some people.

It makes my blood boil when people IMMEDIATELY picked out the negatives. Some people just come to our games and hang shit on us! It frustrates the hell out of me to the stage where I'm wanting to tell you them to get out or support the team.

I come on here and all I see is negativity. Yes I know it's hard after a disappointing loss against a fierce rival, but people making uncalled for changes and saying "he's shit" "nowhere near AFL Standard". I attend games to support my team, when something doesn't go right, move on, there's nothing that can be done about it.

With Matthew Knights, I will always support the bloke until he resigns or gets the sack. He has a much better idea of what to do than any of us in this forum. He would have a Level 3 AFL Coaching Accreditation, a lot higher accreditation then any of us what have I would think.

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Believe what you want! But this is my opinion. Open to criticism but this is the way I feel.

That is irrelevant. I'm sure Walace had a level 3 coaching accreditiation but what did that mean?

When there are clear issues with the club then there is negativity to be called for, you can't just watch idly whilst the club sinks. Id we don't speak then nothing will happen. Its pretty hard to miss the negatives as well.

[Valve Bounce]

I think we may have been to different games yesterday.

[anf06]

Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end



*Currently imagining turnover after turnover after turnover after turnover. Terrible foot skills under pressure and unaccountable defence*

Is this what I'm meant to be imagining? :rolleyes:

[Storyboy]

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Preach it brother!

[smcateer]

Well said.

A potential grand-finalist beats a team which is a year or two from thinking about flags, and it time to start dropping everyone, sacking coaches, etc.

Get a grip ppl. Srsly.

[anf06]

Well said.

A potential grand-finalist beats a team which is a year or two from thinking about flags, and it time to start dropping everyone, sacking coaches, etc.

Get a grip ppl. Srsly.

Okay, I'm sorry. You're right. Lets all be content with losing. "Srsly" mate, they way that we are losing is the problem.

[adii_7]

First of all let me just say that I've been a bomber fan for the 18 years of my life. I'm going to vent some of my frustrations here, not just at the players but at some of YOU! as well..


Ricky Dyson - Rate this guy a lot. Can kick a footy and on his day can be very damaging. Yeah I know, most of you blokes will "stop reading here" but the guy can play.



Jason Winderlich - Has been a bit down to the start of this year obviously, but he is the lining breaking, quick midfielder that we need in the side (barring injury) with Lovett disappearing.



Mark McVeigh & Andrew Welsh - People calling for their head. Oh Jesus! McVeigh was fantastic on Davis on Sunday. He was given a job to do on Davis and did his job, it doesn't matter how many touches he gets, his job was to shut Davis down and he did that. Certain starter next week. Welsh almost was never going to play football again after last year's incident. The same thing is happening with him as what happened with Nathan Brown at Richmond. He will be better as the season goes on.



Courtenay Dempsey - This kid is a superstar! Only played about 30-40 games remember that, so he is still getting experience into him. NEED that run off the half back line.



Jake Melksham & Travis Colyer - People saying they rid rest, pure bullshit! These kids need to play and they will be better off for the long run. Melksham puts his body on the line all the time and wins the hard ball. Colyer backs himself in tight situations. I saw in a different post that someone said "they have yet to see Melksham run out 4 quarters". FFS! You go from the speed in TAC Cup Football to AFL Level Football and see if you can run it out.



Kyle Reimers - This is my only negative on a player. Kyle, you need to focus more on finding the football than picking fights when we're 10 goals down. You have amazing potential and have the ability to find the football. Worry more about the ball than the player.



Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end


Now to vent my frustration on some people.

It makes my blood boil when people IMMEDIATELY picked out the negatives. Some people just come to our games and hang shit on us! It frustrates the hell out of me to the stage where I'm wanting to tell you them to get out or support the team.

I come on here and all I see is negativity. Yes I know it's hard after a disappointing loss against a fierce rival, but people making uncalled for changes and saying "he's shit" "nowhere near AFL Standard". I attend games to support my team, when something doesn't go right, move on, there's nothing that can be done about it.

With Matthew Knights, I will always support the bloke until he resigns or gets the sack. He has a much better idea of what to do than any of us in this forum. He would have a Level 3 AFL Coaching Accreditation, a lot higher accreditation then any of us what have I would think.

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Believe what you want! But this is my opinion. Open to criticism but this is the way I feel.

disagree with the bolded points.

but your a smart person, risks win matches.

[TeamHurley]

Unless things drastically change we are going to bottom out this year, bottom 4 and end up with draft pick 10 or 14 or something in a already plundered draft. Fans had a modest expectation that we would be pushing for a 6-8 position after 5 years of rebuilding.

But that's ok because knights has a certificate IV from tafe in coaching and we shouldn't criticize him.

We have gone backwards since last year. Our game plan is dysfunctional and doesn't work. We cant kick goals and we bleed them at the other end. Our midfield is full of plodders. Not much going inside or outside.

Knights is a slippery sales man. You see it in his press conferences. He is charming. He charmed our board and got elected as coach. But he has not proven that he can coach on game day or develop a list.

We should have gone with Hardwick and the total rebuild. Instead we have had 5 years of mediocrity and no end in sight.

If you want to climb up on your high horse and criticize so called 'supporters' for being negative and unhappy with the way things are going then good for you. I think we have good reasons to be severely unhappy with the way the club is performing now and our prospects in the future.

[The Bombs]

Unless things drastically change we are going to bottom out this year, bottom 4 and end up with draft pick 10 or 14 or something in a already plundered draft. Fans had a modest expectation that we would be pushing for a 6-8 position after 5 years of rebuilding.

But that's ok because knights has a certificate IV from tafe in coaching and we shouldn't criticize him.

We have gone backwards since last year. Our game plan is dysfunctional and doesn't work. We cant kick goals and we bleed them at the other end. Our midfield is full of plodders. Not much going inside or outside.

Knights is a slippery sales man. You see it in his press conferences. He is charming. He charmed our board and got elected as coach. But he has not proven that he can coach on game day or develop a list.

We should have gone with Hardwick and the total rebuild. Instead we have had 5 years of mediocrity and no end in sight.

If you want to climb up on your high horse and criticize so called 'supporters' for being negative and unhappy with the way things are going then good for you. I think we have good reasons to be severely unhappy with the way the club is performing now and our prospects in the future.


Totally agree with the bolded part. Knights is well spoken and knows how to say the right things. How he got the job at a club like Essendon is beyond me. The guy gets outcoached on game day by everybody with the exception being ratten.

Other then that I agree with a lot of what Ricky said. Even the atkinson call. Love the passion.

[Shane Hird]

First of all let me just say that I've been a bomber fan for the 18 years of my life. I'm going to vent some of my frustrations here, not just at the players but at some of YOU! as well..


Ricky Dyson - Rate this guy a lot.
Can kick a footy and on his day can be very damaging. Yeah I know, most of you blokes will "stop reading here" but the guy can play.



Jason Winderlich - Has been a bit down to the start of this year obviously, but he is the lining breaking, quick midfielder that we need in the side (barring injury) with Lovett disappearing.



Mark McVeigh & Andrew Welsh - People calling for their head. Oh Jesus! McVeigh was fantastic on Davis on Sunday. He was given a job to do on Davis and did his job, it doesn't matter how many touches he gets, his job was to shut Davis down and he did that. Certain starter next week. Welsh almost was never going to play football again after last year's incident. The same thing is happening with him as what happened with Nathan Brown at Richmond. He will be better as the season goes on.



Courtenay Dempsey - This kid is a superstar! Only played about 30-40 games remember that, so he is still getting experience into him. NEED that run off the half back line.



Jake Melksham & Travis Colyer - People saying they rid rest, pure bullshit! These kids need to play and they will be better off for the long run. Melksham puts his body on the line all the time and wins the hard ball. Colyer backs himself in tight situations. I saw in a different post that someone said "they have yet to see Melksham run out 4 quarters". FFS! You go from the speed in TAC Cup Football to AFL Level Football and see if you can run it out.



Kyle Reimers - This is my only negative on a player. Kyle, you need to focus more on finding the football than picking fights when we're 10 goals down. You have amazing potential and have the ability to find the football. Worry more about the ball than the player.



Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end


Now to vent my frustration on some people.

It makes my blood boil when people IMMEDIATELY picked out the negatives. Some people just come to our games and hang shit on us! It frustrates the hell out of me to the stage where I'm wanting to tell you them to get out or support the team.

I come on here and all I see is negativity. Yes I know it's hard after a disappointing loss against a fierce rival, but people making uncalled for changes and saying "he's shit" "nowhere near AFL Standard". I attend games to support my team, when something doesn't go right, move on, there's nothing that can be done about it.

With Matthew Knights, I will always support the bloke until he resigns or gets the sack. He has a much better idea of what to do than any of us in this forum. He would have a Level 3 AFL Coaching Accreditation, a lot higher accreditation then any of us what have I would think.

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Believe what you want! But this is my opinion. Open to criticism but this is the way I feel.



LMAO...think before you post is my advice. But that's what you believe and I admire you for having the guts to write stuff like that on a public forum.

The Dyson one is a classic...lol.

BTW...I have a level2 AFL coaching card and so have thousands of halfwits all around Australia. Many more are on level 3.

It doesn't mean shit my friend.

Anyone can go and do a forklift course. Doesn't mean they are gunna be good forklift drivers..

[Haduken]

First of all let me just say that I've been a bomber fan for the 18 years of my life. I'm going to vent some of my frustrations here, not just at the players but at some of YOU! as well..


Ricky Dyson - Rate this guy a lot. Can kick a footy and on his day can be very damaging. Yeah I know, most of you blokes will "stop reading here" but the guy can play.



Jason Winderlich - Has been a bit down to the start of this year obviously, but he is the lining breaking, quick midfielder that we need in the side (barring injury) with Lovett disappearing.



Mark McVeigh & Andrew Welsh - People calling for their head. Oh Jesus! McVeigh was fantastic on Davis on Sunday. He was given a job to do on Davis and did his job, it doesn't matter how many touches he gets, his job was to shut Davis down and he did that. Certain starter next week. Welsh almost was never going to play football again after last year's incident. The same thing is happening with him as what happened with Nathan Brown at Richmond. He will be better as the season goes on.



Courtenay Dempsey - This kid is a superstar! Only played about 30-40 games remember that, so he is still getting experience into him. NEED that run off the half back line.



Jake Melksham & Travis Colyer - People saying they rid rest, pure bullshit! These kids need to play and they will be better off for the long run. Melksham puts his body on the line all the time and wins the hard ball. Colyer backs himself in tight situations. I saw in a different post that someone said "they have yet to see Melksham run out 4 quarters". FFS! You go from the speed in TAC Cup Football to AFL Level Football and see if you can run it out.



Kyle Reimers - This is my only negative on a player. Kyle, you need to focus more on finding the football than picking fights when we're 10 goals down. You have amazing potential and have the ability to find the football. Worry more about the ball than the player.



Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end


Now to vent my frustration on some people.

It makes my blood boil when people IMMEDIATELY picked out the negatives. Some people just come to our games and hang shit on us! It frustrates the hell out of me to the stage where I'm wanting to tell you them to get out or support the team.

I come on here and all I see is negativity. Yes I know it's hard after a disappointing loss against a fierce rival, but people making uncalled for changes and saying "he's shit" "nowhere near AFL Standard". I attend games to support my team, when something doesn't go right, move on, there's nothing that can be done about it.

With Matthew Knights, I will always support the bloke until he resigns or gets the sack. He has a much better idea of what to do than any of us in this forum. He would have a Level 3 AFL Coaching Accreditation, a lot higher accreditation then any of us what have I would think.

I live and breath the Essendon Football Club and just makes my blood boil when negativity is the only thing I see when the Essendon Football Club is being spoken about, especially by it's own so called "supporters". People it has to stop, we're not Richmond, we're not Carlton, we're not bloody Collingwood! We're Essendon, one of the most successful clubs in our great game. Every single side goes through a rough patch..deal with it and support the club.

Believe what you want! But this is my opinion. Open to criticism but this is the way I feel.

I admire your pluck and agree with most of your sentiment (although I disagree with some of the commentary on the players, but that's just my opinion also. :thumbsu:)

Mostly I just wanted to say I think while it's all well and good to criticize the effort we saw last week some of the hysteria on here has been a little over the top. We need some changes, I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but now is the time to see if Knights truly is up to the task. The next 3 months will tell us a lot about where we are and where we're going.

This season is almost a washout, there's still faint hope but I don't think many are holding onto it, so let's see how this season pans out form here without carrying on like Richmond supporters :rolleyes:

[Paddywhackers]

Although I really did LOL at this thread, Ricky, as naive as he is, represents everything that is wrong with Essendon.

Remember my masterpiece in 2007, 'Essendon's youngsters were they ever any good'? The rhetoric from me was that these youngsters didn't cut the mustard, and that Essendon would be down the ladder for quite some time. That was met by Essendon supporters with, 'Stanton would win a brownlow'. That 'Winderlich and Dyson were going to be stars', and that when 'Dempsey was fit and able to get onto the park, look out'!

It was as if, (pause) it was as if Essendon supporters were using imagination in place of reality, that they would be back up the ladder sooner than what their list was capable of, even if all things went perfectly to plan. That's how dire their list was than, and it isn't any better now.

The club and Sheedy's insanity, is in many ways to blame for its own delusions, that have also deluded what is a wounded and emotionally scarred supporter base, that now, and there are many starting to accept reality, (as is evident with the response to this thread which could be a borderline troll) can see no end in sight of the misery and hardship they currently face.

This is why the EFC made that awful decision to appoint knights, which has set you back at least three years, and that can feel like eternity when you have been scrambling at the bottom of the ladder for several years prior.

Worst of all, you could well finish last in a draft that has the GC and WS with fingers in all the right wholes digging the best gems before you get a chance, of which, going on past drafts, your likely to stuff that pick up anyway.

[Kaiser Powser]

Although I really did LOL at this thread, Ricky, as naive as he is, represents everything that is wrong with Essendon.

Remember my masterpiece in 2007, 'Essendon's youngsters were they ever any good'? The rhetoric from me was that these youngsters didn't cut the mustard, and that Essendon would be down the ladder for quite some time. That was met by Essendon supporters with, 'Stanton would win a brownlow'. That 'Winderlich and Dyson were going to be stars', and that when 'Dempsey was fit and able to get onto the park, look out'!

It was as if, (pause) it was as if Essendon supporters were using imagination in place of reality, that they would be back up the ladder sooner than what their list was capable of, even if all things went perfectly to plan. That's how dire their list was than, and it isn't any better now.

The club and Sheedy's insanity, is in many ways to blame for its own delusions, that have also deluded what is a wounded and emotionally scarred supporter base, that now, and there are many starting to accept reality, (as is evident with the response to this thread which could be a borderline troll) can see no end in sight of the misery and hardship they currently face.

This is why the EFC made that awful decision to appoint knights, which has set you back at least three years, and that can feel like eternity when you have been scrambling at the bottom of the ladder for several years prior.

Worst of all, you could well finish last in a draft that has the GC and WS with fingers in all the right wholes digging the best gems before you get a chance, of which, going on past drafts, your likely to stuff that pick up anyway.

As overly optimistic as the OP was, this is overly negative.

We have some problems and the team are playing poorly, yet the same team and coach have played some great footy last year, we need to recapture that.

We have some talented KPP for the future, which is one of the hardest things to find. We need to sort out our midfield.

Expectaions were that we would be lucky to make finals this year with our draw and a finish of 8-11th would be expected. We are currently tracking below that, but I would much rather stutter this year, while we are still fitting the pieces than in two years when we should be contesting.

[SirJimi05]

Jarrod Atkinson - Cannot believe some of the abuse this bloke is getting. Imagine him and Dempsey coming off the half back flanks. He takes the game on, quick and generally has good skills. Will not be delisted at year's end




I am imagining us losing by 25 goals every week, ala Sydney in the early days.

Am i on the right track?

[anf06]

I am imagining us losing by 25 goals every week, ala Sydney in the early days.

Am i on the right track?

Ricky's imagination must be broken.

[james_omahoney]

Although I really did LOL at this thread, Ricky, as naive as he is, represents everything that is wrong with Essendon.

Remember my masterpiece in 2007, 'Essendon's youngsters were they ever any good'? The rhetoric from me was that these youngsters didn't cut the mustard, and that Essendon would be down the ladder for quite some time. That was met by Essendon supporters with, 'Stanton would win a brownlow'. That 'Winderlich and Dyson were going to be stars', and that when 'Dempsey was fit and able to get onto the park, look out'!

It was as if, (pause) it was as if Essendon supporters were using imagination in place of reality, that they would be back up the ladder sooner than what their list was capable of, even if all things went perfectly to plan. That's how dire their list was than, and it isn't any better now.

The club and Sheedy's insanity, is in many ways to blame for its own delusions, that have also deluded what is a wounded and emotionally scarred supporter base, that now, and there are many starting to accept reality, (as is evident with the response to this thread which could be a borderline troll) can see no end in sight of the misery and hardship they currently face.

This is why the EFC made that awful decision to appoint knights, which has set you back at least three years, and that can feel like eternity when you have been scrambling at the bottom of the ladder for several years prior.

Worst of all, you could well finish last in a draft that has the GC and WS with fingers in all the right wholes digging the best gems before you get a chance, of which, going on past drafts, your likely to stuff that pick up anyway.

Just for the record, I'm not defending the OP. Disagree with much of it.

I didn't read your masterpiece in 2007 so I can't comment on it or the responses from Essendon supporters, though I'd question the intelligence of anyone who said Stanton would win a Brownlow. It certainly doesn't represent the EFC community's views on the guy at any stage.

Also a bit early to be claiming any kind of win on calls made on Dempsey, Winderlich or Dyson. All have shown potential in the last year and may or may not become stars.

What really stands out for me in your post is the bolded part. It's pretty easy to look at our ladder positions from 2007 onwards and assume we overrated our lists, but fact remains for 3 years we were decimated by injury and, in my view, were finals worthy each of those years if not for it. It just shows how little you know about the club and how shallow your memory is.

There are numerous senior players on our list who have struggled to return from major injury, and despite being on the park this year, are still recovering their potential: Hille, Winderlich, Welsh, McVeigh and Lloyd (although now retired, struggled for those years after his hamstring tear).

We are performing poorly this year, but consider that our senior players, bar Watson and Fletcher (who also came back from a serious injury last year), aren't standing up, and then join the dots. Without leadership from the senior players, our young guns don't stand the same chance as those at other clubs, and hence take longer.

I won't go into the Knights stuff, other than to say that I was shocked and angry when he was appointed, but then put my faith in him, was impressed for a time and now it hangs in the balance. This, though, is a completely separate from the potential of our young players.

[Son of Whispy]

What people see as negativity on this site is just pure frustration by many loyal, passionate Essendon supporters and I am 1 of them.

I love this club and have since I put on my first bomber jumper when I was 12 months old until now, which i'm 31 years old, and will continue to do so until i'm 6 foot under.

I've seen some great bomber sides and great era's in the past. The great sides of 84,85 with greats such as Watson, Daniher, Baker, Madden etc.

The great side of the early 90's with greats such as Thompson, Harvey, Bewick, Salmon, Long and the baby bombers in Hird, Misiti, Mercuri and Fletcher.

I remind you of the great team of 99 to 2004 with the baby bombers becoming champions and added by other club greats in Llloyd and Lucas all led by the great Kevin Sheedy.

Passion is huge in any sport and to have these forums is a great way for supporters to share and let out there feelings.

I, as like all Essendon members and supporters are as frustrated as all get up at the moment. To see what we had watched in yester year to what we have watched lately is driving me insane. The performances we have watched our much loved mighty club dish up in the last 6 weeks have been nothing short of disgraceful.

Is it the coach? Is it the list we have got at the moment? Are we just simply not good enough? The answer is i'm not quiet shore as yet and i'm out of of ideas at the moment.

We are proud, passionate bomber supporters, and I know one thing. Doesn't matter how good or how bad we are as a team, i'll still follow and support this club and will do until the day I die. I'll still go to work and have a beer with my mates and say that I am a bloody bomber for life.

[Son of Whispy]

Sorry guys, i've choked up a bit writing this.

[adii_7]

I am imagining us losing by 25 goals every week, ala Sydney in the early days.

Am i on the right track?

atleast they'd be having a go

[anf06]

atleast they'd be having a go

Oh awesome, we'll lose by 20 goals, as long as all the players are having a go. I can se the light!!!! :rolleyes: