View Full Version : Is Alwyn Davey a theeeif?
It is likely the Alwyn Davey will get selected to play this week from all reports, my question is, how does he constantly steals games from the Essendon Football Club??
Surely he must have some compromising photographs of Knights, because that can be the only reason why he consistently gets games, while under performing for our club.
Davey is a one trick pony, yes he has plenty of pace, which he occasionally uses to provide a bit of pressure, but other than that, what else does he provide??
One other thing that really frustrates me about him is that he would have to be one of the softest players running around in the competition. I think that soccer players watching him would be a tad embarrassed by the way rolls around on the ground like he has been shot, after a slight hit.
Yes he has talent, but does he use is consistently…NO.
I know that many people may not agree with me, but I am putting the question to everyone does he add anything to our side??? Because personally I think he is a liability. Has no heart what so ever.
keepzitreal
28 Apr 2010, 12:15
Disagree, his frontal pressure alone creates more opportunities than our delivery inside 50. Should be playing he and Jetta at Neagle or Hurley's feet.
You have to remember what he gave us pre-knee injury. He has the ability to get back to that, he just needs to get his confidence up.
He has preformed ok in the VFL games so why not give him another chance. He can't do that much worst then what we threw up on Sunday.
You have to remember what he gave us pre-knee injury. He has the ability to get back to that, he just needs to get his confidence up.
He has preformed ok in the VFL games so why not give him another chance. He can't do that much worst then what we threw up on Sunday.
That was in 2007 and now it's 2010. Although I agree that we can't do much worse than Sunday so now may as well be the time where he gets his chance.
So you saying davey is a thief because he MAY be picked on the back of 3 good games with bendigo????
WTF is going on with this board. I know things suck at the moment, but I'm thinking about going over to BB instead, they constant player bashing seems insignificant compared to here now.
Maybe there should just be a single sticky called bash players here, then we don't have to have 20 different anti this player anti that player on the main board.
Imo Alwyn Davey and Shane Harvey should be definite starters ahead of the crap we saw last week.
The Donners
28 Apr 2010, 13:29
It is likely the Alwyn Davey will get selected to play this week from all reports, my question is, how does he constantly steals games from the Essendon Football Club??
Surely he must have some compromising photographs of Knights, because that can be the only reason why he consistently gets games, while under performing for our club.
Davey is a one trick pony, yes he has plenty of pace, which he occasionally uses to provide a bit of pressure, but other than that, what else does he provide??
One other thing that really frustrates me about him is that he would have to be one of the softest players running around in the competition. I think that soccer players watching him would be a tad embarrassed by the way rolls around on the ground like he has been shot, after a slight hit.
Yes he has talent, but does he use is consistently…NO.
I know that many people may not agree with me, but I am putting the question to everyone does he add anything to our side??? Because personally I think he is a liability. Has no heart what so ever.
Why don't you start a thread about David Hille then? He strung half a dozen decent games together in 2008 and before then played 1 or 2 standout games a year and for the obvious reason he's done SFA since. I'm tipping he's on far more than Davey is, perhaps you should look at him for stealing a living?
underbelly
28 Apr 2010, 13:31
No, but I bet he knows how to spell thief ;)
He may have put in 3 good performances in the VFL, but I am talking about his last 18 months of awful performances week after week. No heart, no passion for the club.
He puts in one great effort and just rests on his laurels, spends the rest of the quarter, putting in half baked efforts. That’s what frustrates me the most.
Hille atleast puts in effort every week, has been terrible though I agree, but will give him a few more weeks.
No, but I bet he knows how to spell thief ;)
Damn it, will change it, thanks for picking it up.
twentington
28 Apr 2010, 13:56
I don't know how you can call davey soft.
Fremantle game this year, pavlich running straight at him with the ball and a head of steam. Davey doesnt even flinch, squares up face on, stops him dead and dumps him on his back. Tough little bastard if you ask me.
Obviously got to fix those fumbles and slot a few more through the posts would be a bonus but given everyone is doing the same you've got to look at what influence the whole team is under to address those issues properly.
Ben the Gooner
28 Apr 2010, 16:32
No, but I bet he knows how to spell thief ;)
Taught how to spell by a Collingwood fan :o
So, his disposal is no good? his goal sense is no good? his linebreaking runs are no good?
Quick question.. Do you like Welsh, Hocking and Mcveigh in the same side?
SirJimi05
28 Apr 2010, 17:17
I don't know how you can call davey soft.
Fremantle game this year, pavlich running straight at him with the ball and a head of steam. Davey doesnt even flinch, squares up face on, stops him dead and dumps him on his back. Tough little bastard if you ask me.
Obviously got to fix those fumbles and slot a few more through the posts would be a bonus but given everyone is doing the same you've got to look at what influence the whole team is under to address those issues properly.
You do realise why he is always fumbling, don't you? He is too busy shitting himself and worrying about getting contact. His eyes always leave the ball and are focused on what is coming at him.
I can't blame him because he is a tiny little runt but it is absolutely ridiculous to call him a tough player. He is as soft as they come. I have never seen a player constantly try and avoid contact as much as he. He actually throws himself away from contact which is the opposite to most AFL players these days.
He also attempts to avoid contact before he even takes possesion of th ball - another reason why he fumbles so much.
Frothies Mcveigh
28 Apr 2010, 18:10
So he steals games by getting dropped, playing 3 good games at Bendigo and possibly getting called back up to the seniors. Shame on him.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
28 Apr 2010, 18:25
should play this week.missing his foward pressure
quotemokc
28 Apr 2010, 20:05
Davey's problem is that he is not being selfish enough which is what he is good at.
Longy413
28 Apr 2010, 23:10
One trick pony? Probably.
It's a bloody good trick though.
Should be picked this week, we are missing him.
Valve Bounce
28 Apr 2010, 23:35
Nearly every player is being insulted and roasted here because of Essendon's bad string of games. Now this bugger wants to call one of the players a thief because he might get selected.
I know we are all disappointed at the way the way things are going, but to make personal insults against out players is going too far.
Re: Is Alwyn Davey a theif?
No.
blitzer
29 Apr 2010, 09:29
Needs to lift offensively but we do miss his forward line pressure when he's out. The last two weeks especially we haven't done well at keeping the ball in our forward line. I think if he can get his confidence up he can at least be a goal a game small forward who provides good defensive pressure. Has earned his spot again with some good performances at Bendigo, which is more than some of the others that got dropped can say.
If he can learn to slow down half a step when gathering the ball below his knees he'll be very valuable, as that is where he lets himself down. He trys to gather the ball at full tilt and fumbles, then slows down to gather after the fumble where he then finds himself under the pump, wasting all his effort at getting to the ball first using his pace in the first instance.
Break clear to gather, take half a step off your pace whilst gathering, then break away again. Not many players can gather at full tilt which is what Davey is trying to do. The difference is many players adjust to their weakness whereas Davey is still trying to do it all at full tilt.
His frontal pressure is an asset, no doubt, and has been sorely lacking.
Oh Tayteridge
29 Apr 2010, 12:04
You do realise why he is always fumbling, don't you? He is too busy shitting himself and worrying about getting contact. His eyes always leave the ball and are focused on what is coming at him.
I can't blame him because he is a tiny little runt but it is absolutely ridiculous to call him a tough player. He is as soft as they come. I have never seen a player constantly try and avoid contact as much as he. He actually throws himself away from contact which is the opposite to most AFL players these days.
He also attempts to avoid contact before he even takes possesion of th ball - another reason why he fumbles so much.
How ****ing ridiculous. Would you prefer him, as one of the smallest players in the AFL, to repeatedly attempt to use his massive bulk to crash through packs? I'd rather he used his amazing pace and agility to sidestep and emerge from them.
That's just me though.
I don't know how you can call davey soft.
Fremantle game this year, pavlich running straight at him with the ball and a head of steam. Davey doesnt even flinch, squares up face on, stops him dead and dumps him on his back. Tough little bastard if you ask me.
Obviously got to fix those fumbles and slot a few more through the posts would be a bonus but given everyone is doing the same you've got to look at what influence the whole team is under to address those issues properly.
I don’t consider making a tackle being tough, as that is expected of all players. Libba was small and made plenty of tackles every week.
So, his disposal is no good? his goal sense is no good? his linebreaking runs are no good?
Quick question.. Do you like Welsh, Hocking and Mcveigh in the same side?
· His disposal is average at best.
· Doesn’t kick enough goals, he is only remembered for the occasional flashy goal, hence why people have a high opinion of him.
· Line breaking runs are very few and far between. Doesn’t work hard enough.
· No those 3 probably shouldn’t be in the same side, but Davey wont improve our side.
You do realise why he is always fumbling, don't you? He is too busy shitting himself and worrying about getting contact. His eyes always leave the ball and are focused on what is coming at him.
I can't blame him because he is a tiny little runt but it is absolutely ridiculous to call him a tough player. He is as soft as they come. I have never seen a player constantly try and avoid contact as much as he. He actually throws himself away from contact which is the opposite to most AFL players these days.
He also attempts to avoid contact before he even takes possesion of th ball - another reason why he fumbles so much.
SirJim pretty much sums up what I think of Davey.
Valve Bounce
29 Apr 2010, 12:52
SirJim pretty much sums up what I think of Davey.
We were all cheering and clapping when Alwyn was dodging and weaving and kicking goals and tackling. Do you think a player is soft to pull off these sort of tackles? http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=W-DsNnCAGUk
Do you really believe this player is soft?
Lance Uppercut
29 Apr 2010, 13:35
the only comment I'll make on the steaming pile of horseshit of a thread, is to beg a mod to PLEASE edit the title, as the misspelling is making my eyes bleed, kthxbye
Ben the Gooner
29 Apr 2010, 13:52
Excellent point, Mr Uppercut.
the only comment I'll make on the steaming pile of horseshit of a thread, is to beg a mod to PLEASE edit the title, as the misspelling is making my eyes bleed, kthxbye
Yes, you lose a lot a credibility with a typo like that! But if you can't edit the titles, not much you can do.
But if you guys are happy for Essendon to keep producing "steming piles", then bring Davey back in, he is not going to help us at all. People only remember his occasional flashy plays, but forget how ordinary he is for the rest of the game, doesn't work at all.
Should be called the "worm" because when he gets hit he rolls around on the ground for ages, while the play is still going on around him. And he has done this on numerous occassions.
SirJimi05
29 Apr 2010, 16:32
How ****ing ridiculous. Would you prefer him, as one of the smallest players in the AFL, to repeatedly attempt to use his massive bulk to crash through packs? I'd rather he used his amazing pace and agility to sidestep and emerge from them.
That's just me though.
Crash through packs? What the **** are you on about? I said nothing about using bulk or crashing through packs! All i ask is that he doesn't shit himself everytime he goes near it. If he can't do this he shouldn't be playing AFL football. Once you take the field it doesn't matter how small you are, you have to put your body on the line.
SirJimi05
29 Apr 2010, 16:37
We were all cheering and clapping when Alwyn was dodging and weaving and kicking goals and tackling. Do you think a player is soft to pull off these sort of tackles? http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=W-DsNnCAGUk
Do you really believe this player is soft?
Chasing down a player from behind doesn't take much courage, mate. Until he stops shitting himself everytime contact is imminent, i will regard him as a soft player. I think he should be in the team because we need his defensive attributes but most of you need to take your goggles off and watch the games more closely. He shits himself just about everytime he goes near the pill.
Valve Bounce
29 Apr 2010, 19:38
Chasing down a player from behind doesn't take much courage, mate. Until he stops shitting himself everytime contact is imminent, i will regard him as a soft player. I think he should be in the team because we need his defensive attributes but most of you need to take your goggles off and watch the games more closely. He shits himself just about everytime he goes near the pill.
What are you on about all this shitting stuff? Did he refuse to use your toilet paper?
Bombers36
29 Apr 2010, 20:31
I dont know - who cares? Does anyone know? Is it really important - there have been and are theifs, drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, even accused rapists amongst AFL ranks current & past as there is in society. Whats the point of this thread??
windyhill
29 Apr 2010, 21:57
Heart beat of the side. Welcome back Froggy.
SirJimi05
30 Apr 2010, 15:14
What are you on about all this shitting stuff? Did he refuse to use your toilet paper?
Wow, you argue your point so well. :rolleyes:
How bout you just tell us how on earth running down a player from behind proves that Davey isn't soft?
What is your reasoning behind him taking his eyes off the ball and fumbling, just about every time contact is imminent?
Stop being a twat and answer the questions. If you can't answer them, best not reply.
I like Davey. His defensive skills alone are just about enough to warrant a spot in the team at present given how ordinary we are going. However, calling him a tough little player, as he was described earlier in this thread, is just plain ridiculous. Why do most non Essendon supporters reckon he is soft? Coincidence? People like you just need to take your goggles off for more than 5 seconds.
Eleven 38
30 Apr 2010, 16:13
i before e except after c?
darnaby
30 Apr 2010, 17:10
Hates contact, absolutely exciting, is however a squib that provides very little direct scoring output and has inferior disposal. Bench player at best
stay true
30 Apr 2010, 17:16
I agree with Jimi.
It's ok to admit that he's soft. Every team has atleast one player in their team with cat like qualities. I mean, Davey's role isn't to be an enforcer or anyway. He's there to chase, tackle, apply extra pressure and hopefully kick the odd goal. Having said that, would be nice if he could bump up his goals per game average.
Valve Bounce
30 Apr 2010, 17:31
Chasing down a player from behind doesn't take much courage, mate. Until he stops shitting himself everytime contact is imminent, i will regard him as a soft player. I think he should be in the team because we need his defensive attributes but most of you need to take your goggles off and watch the games more closely. He shits himself just about everytime he goes near the pill.
1. I do not agree with your view about Alwyn shitting himself.
2. I do not agree with your view that running a player down from behind and tackling him doesn't take courage, especially when the opponent is much bigger than Alwyn and often falls on top of him
3. I wisg to point out that he did, in fact, dive at the foot of a player about to kick the ball in the video, 8 minutes into the video,
4. Many of his tackles were side on and in fact there is on tackle front on of a Port Adelaide player 8'56" into the video.
Basically, I'm very sorry that you made such a shitty attack on Alwyn Davey.
Longy413
30 Apr 2010, 21:28
I think he's had moments where he's pulled up a little short, but he's also had moments where he's fought above his weight.
How did he break his arm in his first season?
SirJimi05
1 May 2010, 13:56
1. I do not agree with your view about Alwyn shitting himself.
2. I do not agree with your view that running a player down from behind and tackling him doesn't take courage, especially when the opponent is much bigger than Alwyn and often falls on top of him
3. I wisg to point out that he did, in fact, dive at the foot of a player about to kick the ball in the video, 8 minutes into the video,
4. Many of his tackles were side on and in fact there is on tackle front on of a Port Adelaide player 8'56" into the video.
Basically, I'm very sorry that you made such a shitty attack on Alwyn Davey.
So he smothers and tackles. We all know this. :rolleyes:
I am talking about when he is on possesion or just about to take possesion. Only a totally biased, ignorant, or clueless person can truely argue that Davey does not squib contests when he is nearing taking possesion.
Once again, I don't blame him because he is only a little fellow but please don't try and tell me he is tough.
If you regard this as a shitty attack on Davey, boo hoo for you.
Valve Bounce
1 May 2010, 16:53
So he smothers and tackles. We all know this. :rolleyes:
I am talking about when he is on possesion or just about to take possesion. Only a totally biased, ignorant, or clueless person can truely argue that Davey does not squib contests when he is nearing taking possesion.
Once again, I don't blame him because he is only a little fellow but please don't try and tell me he is tough.
If you regard this as a shitty attack on Davey, boo hoo for you.
Maybe I'm just a totally biased, ignorant and clueless person, and see things differently.
windyhill
1 May 2010, 23:23
heart beat of the side. Welcome back froggy.
heart ****ing beat.
FandangoDingo
2 May 2010, 03:32
No, but I bet he knows how to spell thief ;)
Taught how to spell by a Collingwood fan :o
He just read it off his summons.
Being dropped has been the best thing to happen in Alwyn Davey’s career, because he has been fantastic since he has come back into the team. I still believe prior to him being dropped, he was becoming a very ordinary player and didn’t deserve a spot in the team, but I’m happy to eat my words because he is doing well at this moment.
He has been playing like he did when he first burst on to the scene. His pressure, tackling, goal kicking ability and especially his skills have been good.
I won’t change my mind about him being soft as butter, but I can live with that if he continues to play the way he is. He is a very important player to the team when he is on song!
In combination with Jetta it has been a pleasure to watch!
bacon buster
8 Jun 2010, 15:42
Only a totally biased, ignorant, or clueless person can truely argue that Davey does not squib contests when he is nearing taking possesion.
disagree.
i think he is often thinking one step ahead, and thinking already about baulking and using his pace. sometimes that looks like he's being soft, but i think he's far from soft, in general.
resurrector
8 Jun 2010, 16:23
who cares if he squibs on the odd contest the guy is 70kgs and <175cm (ish)...he's gotta use his strengths i.e. quickness and evasive abilities to win the ball. occassionally it will fly out to the opposition but i can wear that considering what else he brings to the table.
Yeah I don't really mind too much if he squibbs a contest, as long as he hurts the opposition elsewhere (with his tackling, his pressure, his crumbing etc).
bacon buster
8 Jun 2010, 17:11
i think 'squib' carries plenty of negative connotations, and i don't think it should be used to describe davey.
i think he tries to avoid contact, at times, because his strength is not to break through tackles, or hold onto a ball whilst being tackled.
Lance Uppercut
8 Jun 2010, 19:12
He is Very fast and has pace his Tackling Pressure is great. These are the Reasons why Bomber fans love him.
lol not sure if srs...DTM/TD pisstake?
autisticbomber
8 Jun 2010, 19:17
who is dtm td?
Lance Uppercut
8 Jun 2010, 19:21
who is dtm td?
mmmm
Sensible in knowing his strengths and weaknesses. I expect anyone his size would feel a flicker of dread if they saw Aaron Sandilands' hip flying their way.
I'd rather he keep himself conscious.
Davey has been good since returning from the magoo's his biggest weakness is his goal finishing at the moment, which if he improves on, is still in out best 18
Big Blow Hard
8 Jun 2010, 20:43
Davey has been good since returning from the magoo's his biggest weakness is his goal finishing at the moment, which if he improves on, is still in out best 18
Not sure on that. It seems to be better now than earlier in the year and last year. Though I still get jittery when he or Jetta line up, but they seem to be slotting them more regularly.
Davey has been good since returning from the magoo's his biggest weakness is his goal finishing at the moment, which if he improves on, is still in out best 18
Are you serious!? Open your eyes big fella.
His biggest weakness over the last couple of years was definitely his disposal by foot, and in particularly his goal finishing. But his disposal has been sublime the past month, nothing like the last 2 years. Has kicked 8 goals, 0 behinds in the past 5 matches. Doesn't look like much of a weakness to me :thumbsu:
Go Alwyn!
The only thing that bothers me about Davey, is his ducking into tackles and oncoming contact. But other than that, he has been very good since returning.
Lance Uppercut
9 Jun 2010, 12:13
The only thing that bothers me about Davey, is his ducking into tackles and oncoming contact. But other than that, he has been very good since returning.
oh I dunno, as demonstrated last weekend, that appears to be the way the AFL want players to play. Duck your head, ram it into stationary players, win a free kick. Easy.
Sure, that'll keep head injuries down :rolleyes:
zacka123
9 Jun 2010, 12:24
Davey of 2007 has returned.
Nope, better. Last few weeks... he stands up in marks and takes them.
Can't remember him ever doing that before.