ICC World T20 Thread

[Cousin Jed]

Starts in a few hours!

Group A

Pakistan (1) v Bangladesh (2) (Sun 3:30am AEST)
Australia v Pakistan (Mon 3:30am AEST)
Australia v Bangladesh (Thurs 3am AEST)

Group B

New Zealand (2) v Sri Lanka (1) (Sat 3:30am AEST)
Sri Lanka v Zimbabwe (Mon 11:30pm AEST)
New Zealand v Zimbabwe (Tues 11:30pm AEST)

Group C

India v Afghanistan (Sat 11:30pm AEST)
India (2) v South Africa (1) (Sun 11:30pm AEST)
South Africa v Afghanistan (Thu 7am AEST)

Group D

West Indies (1) v Ireland (Sat 7am AEST)
England (2) v West Indies (Tue 3:30am AEST)
England v Ireland (Wed 3:30am AEST)

A1,B2,C1,D2 then go into 1 group and A2,B1,C2,D1 go into the other group for the "Super 8 phase" however the numbers correspond with the numbers next to the teams above, meaning that even if say Pakistan finish 2nd in their group - they still get A1. So A1 is automatically Pakistan unless they finish bottom of the group in which case Australia becomes A1, even if they finished 2nd.

If it went on seeds it would produce Pakistan, NZ, SA, England in one group and Bangladesh,Sri Lanka, India and West Indies in the other. It would seem that Australia replacing either of the other group teams is going to be the only possible change to that.

Points earned in the group stage do not carry over to the super 8 phase.

If I have got my understanding of the rules wrong - blame the ICC.

All games are live on the various Fox Sports channels.

[whats_at_stake]

WHAT? Channel Nine is showing nothing????

[Doodlesweaver]

Nice to see the Kiwis winning the first match. Excellent nerve-holding by Nathan McCallum.

With Ryder back, the Kiwis have some big hitters all through their line-up.

[alfy!]

Nice win by NZ, especially with that Sri Lanka spin line-up (mendis, murali).

How are the pitches looking? Good for bowlers?

[pluga_4]

hopefully aussies can improve their away record in 20/20's (5-12-1-1 compared to 10-0 at home).

my understanding is we must beat one of pakistan/bangladesh to proceed to the super 8's, then assuming the seeds go thru, having to beat 2 of sri lanka, west indies and india to progress to the semi final.

[Cousin Jed]

That is if Bangladesh finish on the bottom of the group.

Dilshan's 3 off 19 balls really cost SL.

[stmookeyj]

WHAT? Channel Nine is showing nothing????

Shows how serious this form of the game is being taken by TV Networks and pretty much in this country.


West Indies belted the Irish in the late game. First game tomorrow will attract the attention with Afghanistan entering the fray.

[likka]

Dilshan's 3 off 19 balls really cost SL.

Cost them the match.

[Doodlesweaver]

I think we'll go out in the Super 8. Our batting strength should get us that far anyway, but our lack of slow bowling will cost us once there unless MJ has more than one blinder.

[Freo Big Fella]

Words can't describe how awesome it would be if Afghanistan beat India.

[Ill Chicken]

They look reasonably put together, capable of competing with Bangladesh it would appear.

[mansize rooster]

Go bangers

[Alpha1]

Two big games tonight, India v SA and Australia v Pakistan, SA should beat India and the Aussies to be run close by the Pakis but will come out on top.

[Blight von Torp]

I don't like the format. The semi-final and final being sudden death in such a fluky format means there's too much luck involved IMO.

[Doodlesweaver]

I don't like the format. The semi-final and final being sudden death in such a fluky format means there's too much luck involved IMO.

That's what I do like about the format.

Even cricinfo is sledging Clarkey about his batting.

"David Warner (http://www.bigfooty.com/australia/content/player/219889.html) is a tiny man with massive power and a huge job at the top of Australia's order. Warner must give Australia a swift start to allow Michael Clarke, the No.3, to have a base from which he can feel comfortable chipping the ball around."

:D

[Ill Chicken]

Sometimes I see Warner and think maybe he is mates with Barry Bonds.

[whats_at_stake]

RSA 14/0 after 3.2 chasing India's 186 after a brilliant century from Raina

[Ill Chicken]

That was a ridiculously bad last over from Australia. How the hell is Johnson coming in ahead of a bloke like Smith?

[Carl Spackler]

Smith's duck was much better than Johnson's. Expect them to swap positions for next game.

[alfy!]

Funny last over for the Aussies. 5 wickets, and a maiden.

Good win, a really good total we got to, and it is very hard to chase down around 200. Watson was great, as was Dussey.

Good win by India too, all on the back of Raina who was slaying them.

[likka]

LOL at Kallis and Smith digging SA such a big hole during that run chase. Very poor batting to let the RR required get so high with so many overs remaining, and 9 wickets in hand.

A quintuple wicket maiden to finish the Aussie innings... wow. Batting order looks tailor made to take advantage of good starts by Warner and Robot (Clarke aside of course).

[peternorth]

again clarke puts himself in before better bats.

but at least he got out early. did the team thing

[whats_at_stake]

LOL at Kallis and Smith digging SA such a big hole during that run chase. Very poor batting to let the RR required get so high with so many overs remaining, and 9 wickets in hand.

A quintuple wicket maiden to finish the Aussie innings... wow. Batting order looks tailor made to take advantage of good starts by Warner and Robot (Clarke aside of course).

Surely the 5 wickets must be some sort of record?

[Cooldude]

Love how Aus got a big total when Clarke got out cheaply

[Port_Adelaide]

1.1
Tait to Salman Butt, no run, 162.3 kph, much fuller this time, on off stump, Butt gets forward and pushes hurriedly into the off side

Is this a typo or legit? Isn't that a world record? :eek:
http://www.cricinfo.com/world-twenty20-2010/engine/current/match/412683.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary

[Ill Chicken]

Big scores early again, expect them to come in as the matches and competition tighten up.

[Doodlesweaver]

Love how Aus got a big total when Clarke got out cheaply

I was well chuffed when he got out. It is always a relief when he gets out before he's got the chance to waste too many deliveries. :D

That five wicket over was a beauty. I was really laughing at the headless chicken aspect of it. MJ literally can't hold a bat anymore, even Nannes could probably bat above him now.

Aamer is a real talent, what control he has. Seems to be a nerveless kid.

[StFly]

Is this a typo or legit? Isn't that a world record? :eek:
http://www.cricinfo.com/world-twenty20-2010/engine/current/match/412683.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary

I don't think so, might be wind assisted though, suppsoedly Watson reached 158 clicks while at the other end guys like Nannes & Mitch were only pushing just over 100, don't think it's a record if wind assisted.

[Doodlesweaver]

I don't think so, might be wind assisted though, suppsoedly Watson reached 158 clicks while at the other end guys like Nannes & Mitch were only pushing just over 100, don't think it's a record if wind assisted.

They can be pretty much ignored as during the Ind/SA match Harby was clocked at 98mph according to cricinfo.:eek:

[Ill Chicken]

Sounds more like a dodgy radar.

[rickyp]

5 wickets in the last over? thats a true ICC innings right there...

[alfy!]

Not sure about the Windies changed target under Duckworth Lewis. Chasing 190 in 20 overs, brings it to 60 off 6 overs. Much easier.

[peternorth]

jesus the poms too forever to bowl the last 2 overs

[Kim Hagdorn]

Not sure about the Windies changed target under Duckworth Lewis. Chasing 190 in 20 overs, brings it to 60 off 6 overs. Much easier.

Yeah the poms got ripped off.

[whats_at_stake]

Yeah the poms got ripped off.

D/L seems to be given odd results at times. Maybe they should look at the formula they used in the rebel Indian Cricket League (made by some mathematician I think).

On another note I remember a year or so ago the news readers on Fox Sports (filmed in America) were talking about a game that was rain affected. They actually thought Duckworth and Lewis were players.

[pistonbroke23]

That was a ridiculously bad last over from Australia. How the hell is Johnson coming in ahead of a bloke like Smith?
Obviuosly to protect him and his record.He will only bat and bowl when it suits his image and record.The real question is why our best t20 batsmen batted at 6 and our worst at 3.We can only hope teams keep getting Clarke out early.

[Kim Hagdorn]

D/L seems to be given odd results at times. Maybe they should look at the formula they used in the rebel Indian Cricket League (made by some mathematician I think).


Yeah I think 20/20 seems to be a bit too short for it to work properly compared to ODIs.

[Damon_3388]

Does anyone think that ONEHD made a mistake in not going harder at getting the broadcast rights for this tournament? Using the momentum they'd have coming off of the IPL season, it would have got good ratings IMO.

[nicko99]

Terrible time slot this t20 WC for viewers in Australia isnt it?

[Notorious_29]

Yeah the game times couldn't be any worse. The Australian game started at 3:15 am the other day. :thumbsd:

[Selective Retention]

Not sure about the Windies changed target under Duckworth Lewis. Chasing 190 in 20 overs, brings it to 60 off 6 overs. Much easier.

Ridiculous revision. They needed 9.5 an over from 20 overs and it becomes 10 an over from 6. Really 6 overs shouldn't be enough to be classified as a game. Should be 10 overs minimum.

[damochandler]

why are the even having it in the west indies. why are they even having a t20 world cup after having one less than 12 months ago and 2 weks after the ipl

[whats_at_stake]

Yeah I think 20/20 seems to be a bit too short for it to work properly compared to ODIs.

Do not really think that is the case. I think the issue is more that the D/L system was designed with 50 overs in mind. However Twenty20's have high run rates which would affect the system.

What they should do is either use the Indian Cricket League one (designed specifically for Twenty20's- known as V Jayadevan) or get the D/L revised to factor in Twenty20's

An article about this is below:

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/409482.html


Here's an even better article. This one compares the two different systems in different scenarios. Too bad there is not a more recent comparison of the WI/Eng match.

http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/140859.html

[eddiesmith]

why are the even having it in the west indies. why are they even having a t20 world cup after having one less than 12 months ago and 2 weks after the ipl
They had to change the years due to it clashing with the World Cup next year so obviously they prefer 2 years in a row than 3 years between events

As for following the IPL, not much choice when its in the West Indies, the IPL and West Indies season clash, but I do wonder why got it so shortly after getting a world cup, Australia has had nothing for 18 years and its still another 5 years untill their next World Cup, it is beyond a joke

[Pevers-Legend]

They had to change the years due to it clashing with the World Cup next year so obviously they prefer 2 years in a row than 3 years between events

As for following the IPL, not much choice when its in the West Indies, the IPL and West Indies season clash, but I do wonder why got it so shortly after getting a world cup, Australia has had nothing for 18 years and its still another 5 years untill their next World Cup, it is beyond a joke

Although the fans have embraced T20 since the get go - the board and senior players have not until recently.

Perhaps the ICC didn't want to risk playing it here due to our admin and players? Crazy thought but who knows. Or is there a greater conspiracy? BCCCCCCCCCCI

[whats_at_stake]

They had to change the years due to it clashing with the World Cup next year so obviously they prefer 2 years in a row than 3 years between events

As for following the IPL, not much choice when its in the West Indies, the IPL and West Indies season clash, but I do wonder why got it so shortly after getting a world cup, Australia has had nothing for 18 years and its still another 5 years untill their next World Cup, it is beyond a joke

I am surprised Australia has not got the Twenty20 world cup. A reason could be ground availability. A world cup in Australia would need to be between October-March timeframe. You would also think the Boxing day test etc. stays so realistically you have October, November, Jan and Feb.

May be due to fixturing of nations and not having a window. I think Aus will probably host the Champions League at some point. RSA have it this year and I think Aus could get it next.

[eddiesmith]

February would be a great time to hold it, although the BCCI probably prefers the IPL is before not after, but it would be a great end to the Australian international summer and not interrupt normal fixturing

As for the Champions League, that would make sense, but I expect India to want it back again atleast every 2 years, I am shocked they actually handed it over so quickly, then again the crowds were so poor they may have lost money.

But imagine Victoria playing a Champions League game at the MCG, given the 40,000 who showed up this year it could be huge, trying to fit that into the Australian calender would be most difficult. No MCG untill October, the people really dont get into the cricket mood untill December but it would probably have to be held by then.

[damochandler]

i just don't think a t20 world cup is needed. we have all these tournements and they are more of a world cup than this thing we have on now.

as for australia not having another tournement in our country. money talks with the icc. we were going to have the world cup next year, but india waved a wad of money at the icc and they got it

[Ill Chicken]

i just don't think a t20 world cup is needed. we have all these tournements and they are more of a world cup than this thing we have on now.

as for australia not having another tournement in our country. money talks with the afl. we were going to have the world cup next year, but india waved a wad of money at the icc and they got it

It's not needed every year. Have it every four years with a proper format where it's not some fluke where you win five matches and the title is yours.

[whats_at_stake]

[quote=damochandler;17651360]i just don't think a t20 world cup is needed. we have all these tournements and they are more of a world cup than this thing we have on now.

I personally prefer international tournaments. The excitinment of multiple teams as opposed to 7 ODI, 5 ODI series is great.

Personally I would have in a 4 year cycle:

year 1: Twenty20 world cup
year 2: Champions Trophy
year 3:Twenty20 World cup
year 4: ICC ODI World Cup

With some form of Test championship as well rotating through (maybe winner every 2 years or so).

[whats_at_stake]

RSA taking on Afghanistan tonight in effectively a knock-out. WIll the Saffa's choke?

[Cooldude]

England are a bunch of lucky sobs

Ireland could've easily won that.

[Doodlesweaver]

England are a bunch of lucky sobs

Ireland could've easily won that.

Colly had to admit that the rain helped them out which was funny after his whinge about the previous game.

Even the inventors of D/L came out and said that D/L has only been complained about publicly twice and both times it has been Collingwood.

It isn't the issue with D/L anyway, it is the bizarre pretence that a game can be completed with one team facing stuff all overs.

[stmookeyj]

If Bangladesh can get 142......

- They will knock Australia out if they get them in less than 14.3 overs
- The will knock Pakistan out if they can get them between 14.4 and 19 overs


They're currently 1/4

[stmookeyj]

81 from 54 to make the next phase.....81 from 27 to knock Australia out

[Doodlesweaver]

81 from 54 to make the next phase.....81 from 27 to knock Australia out

Mike Hussey really is quality in short format cricket, he and young Smith stepped up nicely today when all except Warner were behaving like the pitch had cobras in it.

So much for our captain being the best player of spin in the team. Laughable.

It is also a shame that the Bangladesh team have so little self-control with the bat. That wasn't the most difficult score in the world to chase and nearly all the wickets were them going for inappropriate slogs.

[alfy!]

Gee, Clarke has been ordinary so far. Two failures, and been spanked when he has bowled too.

Great work from Huss and Smith to get us to 140, and Nannes was awesome.

[peternorth]

dear selectors or whoever,

please put cam white up the order in place of clarke.

regards

Australia.

[Bomber Bears]

dear selectors or whoever,

please put cam white up the order in place of clarke.

regards

Australia.Couldnt help but notice that Watson Dhussey Haddin and White all had worse s/r than Clarke last night.

Dont really think Clarke should be in the side but it's not like others are performing brilliantly.

[Kim Hagdorn]

Good work from Huss and young Smith with the bat last night :thumbsu:

[Moin Khan]

Starts in a few hours!

Group A

Pakistan (1) v Bangladesh (2) (Sun 3:30am AEST)
Australia v Pakistan (Mon 3:30am AEST)
Australia v Bangladesh (Thurs 3am AEST)

Group B

New Zealand (2) v Sri Lanka (1) (Sat 3:30am AEST)
Sri Lanka v Zimbabwe (Mon 11:30pm AEST)
New Zealand v Zimbabwe (Tues 11:30pm AEST)

Group C

India v Afghanistan (Sat 11:30pm AEST)
India (2) v South Africa (1) (Sun 11:30pm AEST)
South Africa v Afghanistan (Thu 7am AEST)

Group D

West Indies (1) v Ireland (Sat 7am AEST)
England (2) v West Indies (Tue 3:30am AEST)
England v Ireland (Wed 3:30am AEST)

A1,B2,C1,D2 then go into 1 group and A2,B1,C2,D1 go into the other group for the "Super 8 phase" however the numbers correspond with the numbers next to the teams above, meaning that even if say Pakistan finish 2nd in their group - they still get A1. So A1 is automatically Pakistan unless they finish bottom of the group in which case Australia becomes A1, even if they finished 2nd.

If it went on seeds it would produce Pakistan, NZ, SA, England in one group and Bangladesh,Sri Lanka, India and West Indies in the other. It would seem that Australia replacing either of the other group teams is going to be the only possible change to that.

Points earned in the group stage do not carry over to the super 8 phase.

If I have got my understanding of the rules wrong - blame the ICC.

All games are live on the various Fox Sports channels.

So basically all the good teams are now in the same pool - clever....

[whats_at_stake]

So basically all the good teams are now in the same pool - clever....

Not sure what you mean?

One group would have Aus, West Indies, Ind, Sri Lanka,

The other NZ, South Africa, Pakistan, England

Actually sort of see what you are saying. The first group is superior to the second.

[eddiesmith]

Rankings I believe are done on previous performances so really the best teams are not in 1 group, maybe as cricketing nations it may appear that way but their T20 performances at previous tournaments do not rate them as all good teams in 1 group

[XFactor1979]

it moves fast thats for sure!

in the blink of an eye this tournament will be finished before you even know it began!

perhaps they should model the scheduling of the next full 50 over world cup similar to how this is being conducted?

[whats_at_stake]

The Saffa's beat the Kiwi's and the Poms beat Pakistan.

Big game on tonight with the two favourites India and Australia squaring off. Praveen Kumar is out of the World Cup with a side strain.

[Kim Chambers]

Big game on tonight with the two favourites India and Australia squaring off. Praveen Kumar is out of the World Cup with a side strain.
What time does it start on fox for us in Melbourne?

Can't seem to find an exact starting time anywhere.

[roostersgal4eva]

has it 11.30 in Adelaide so I guess its 11 for your mob!

thanks to work commitments this will be the first game ive watched this tourney

[Notorious_29]

India won the toss, Australia batting. MJ is playing, Harris out.

[Ill Chicken]

India are the wrong price.

[Selective Retention]

Nehra, what a shit truck. After all these years he is still in the picture. Unbelievable really. Spin owns us.

EDIT: LOL. Let me rephrase that, quality spin.

[TimeIsRunningOut]

Watson feasting on a few Jadeja pies. Shocking bowling.

[whats_at_stake]

1 maiden over, and then 3 overs of carnage

[whats_at_stake]

Damn if only I could watch the game...Harbhajan seems to be bowling really well.

[Squall]

Surely in this game clarke will put others ahead of him in the batting order after this good start

[Notorious_29]

Surely in this game clarke will put others ahead of him in the batting order after this good start

You would think common sense would prevail.

[Drummond]

Great batting this by Watto and Warner. :thumbsu:

[whats_at_stake]

You would think common sense would prevail.

India will be hoping Clarke comes in very soon and bats through

[Notorious_29]

200+ has to be on the cards here. If Clarke comes in at 4 I will throw something at the tv.

[Ill Chicken]

If Clarke gets a hit, he will take this opportunity to get India back in the game.

[Notorious_29]

Warner just hit one clean out of the ground.

6 6 6 so far this over.

[Homer Jnr]

Jadeja has gone for 3 6's in a row again, this time to Warner.

[Blue Dimension]

Am absolutely loving this! It's awesome!

Got to wonder why Dhoni brought Jadeja back when he still has Yuvraj and Sharma up his sleeve.

[Braddock]

Can anyone give me a link to watch or listen to this on the net? Having no luck...

[Notorious_29]

Sorry that 3rd six didn't go out of the ground, the first camera angle was playing tricks.

They just showed the dug ou and Clarke didn't have pads on :D

[Drummond]

Not suprised to see the best cricketer in the world smash a six and bring up his 50. :)

[Gak Attack]

No pads for Clarke still... next step drop him all together.

[whats_at_stake]

Clarke's main problem in this version is he cannot accelerate. Players like Watson (who played a maiden over), Dhoni, Yuvraj, Warner etc. can afford to play conservatively as they can explode.

You would think Clarke would drop himself below White.

[whats_at_stake]

Not suprised to see the best cricketer in the world smash a six and bring up his 50. :)

Personally not the best cricketer in the world for me. Would have Tendulkar or probably Sehwag ahead of him.

If you are referring to best allrounder in the world- then I do agree with you.
EDIT: forgot about Kallis. He would be my number 1 Watson 2

[Spudregus_87]

Twelve 6s so far !!!

Awesome stuff! Wish I could see it (stream anyone?) :)

[Squall]

13 6's so far:D

Hopefully another 8-12 more :thumbsu:

[Gak Attack]

This is ****ing great to watch!

[Spudregus_87]

WARNER!!!!!

PHHHOOAAARRRR!!!!!

72 (41) 4x2 6x7

Loving this 'No fours' policy...

[Blue Dimension]

Clarke's main problem in this version is he cannot accelerate. Players like Watson (who played a maiden over), Dhoni, Yuvraj, Warner etc. can afford to play conservatively as they can explode.

You would think Clarke would drop himself below White.

Clarke adds stability to the team at 3 when we lose early wickets. It allows for the Husseys, White, etc to come in and play their natural T20 games.

In situations like this however he's put himself down the order and rightly so.

[Spudregus_87]

WARNER!!!!!

PHHHOOAAARRRR!!!!!

72 (41) 4x2 6x7

Loving this 'No fours' policy...

F!!

Sorry guys... :(

[Squall]

white should have been ahead of haddin

[TimeIsRunningOut]

Most sixes by a team in a T20 is 17. Record could go here.

[Ill Chicken]

Clarke adds stability to the team at 3 when we lose early wickets. It allows for the Husseys, White, etc to come in and play their natural T20 games.

In situations like this however he's put himself down the order and rightly so.

He clearly soaks up balls and does nothing for the team that Hussey's can't do better.

[whats_at_stake]

Clarke adds stability to the team at 3 when we lose early wickets. It allows for the Husseys, White, etc to come in and play their natural T20 games.

In situations like this however he's put himself down the order and rightly so.

True, but what is stopping him from being a destructive Twenty20 player is playing both the stable anchor and then stepping up...e.g. like Dhoni.

[happy_eagle]

Good batting by these two

EDIT: Haddin just stumped

[Spudregus_87]

Nice, Haddin gone...

White in?