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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407ESSENDON coach Matthew Knights says the Bombers have a score to settle against Port Adelaide on Saturday.http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407
Really liked the honesty in this part:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407“There is a lot of feeling between both clubs and I am expecting it to be pretty fierce because I don’t think there is much love lost between the two clubs. I don’t think there is a lot of respect in both camps."http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407
Will be interesting to see if any of the players remonstrate with the only player more gutless than Campbell Brown, Dean Brogan.
I for one would love to see Hille bowl the big douche over. Michael Pettigrew has one coming his way, too.
strategy
4 May 2010, 16:04
Why do coaches and or players and or committee give an opposition ammunition to be used against them in future matches .
Its wrong and immature.
Knights you get a zero for what you just did
bipolarbeaR
4 May 2010, 16:05
My lord Brogan, Cornes and Pettigrew are floggers.
I am ok with Hille getting 7 weeks, just as long as he mashes Brogans face in.
Why do coaches and or players and or committee give an opposition ammunition to be used against them in future matches .
Its wrong and immature.
Knights you get a zero for what you just didLike him to keep the cards closer to his chest?
DapperDon
4 May 2010, 16:17
Why do coaches and or players and or committee give an opposition ammunition to be used against them in future matches .
Its wrong and immature.
Knights you get a zero for what you just did
Sheeds did it for 28 years. Won 4 flags.
I see your point.................:cool:
stay true
4 May 2010, 16:21
Isn't much different to Hirdy's article last week. Seems like our boys need reminding that they need to be hard every week so if this helps them get in the zone like last week than it's fine by me.
But why let a good opportunity to sink the boots into Knights pass you by.:cool:
The Donners
4 May 2010, 16:53
Why do coaches and or players and or committee give an opposition ammunition to be used against them in future matches .
Its wrong and immature.
Knights you get a zero for what you just did
It seems to be the only way Essendon win, if their backs are against the wall... or if their backs are up!
Kudos Knighter, Dons by 50 points! Bookmark it! :thumbsu:
Malibu#27
4 May 2010, 17:04
Sheeds did it for 28 years. Won 4 flags.
Sheeds had a few runs under his belt before he did it.
No doubt Port will read it, and the players needing firing up will do so.
Isn't much different to Hirdy's article last week. Seems like our boys need reminding that they need to be hard every week so if this helps them get in the zone like last week than it's fine by me.
But why let a good opportunity to sink the boots into Knights pass you by.:cool:
yeah, get us into "the zone" not the opposition
DapperDon
4 May 2010, 17:15
Sheeds had a few runs under his belt before he did it.
No doubt Port will read it, and the players needing firing up will do so.
Not really, he pretty much gobbed off from the get go
(going by articles and old footage I've seen, as seeing as I was only 2 when he started coaching my memory is a tad hazy).
Here's hoping for a fiery contest anyway, we have a few to catch up on in the head to head count.
hugorune
4 May 2010, 18:19
It's also a message to us to remind us there's a game on at Docklands, to turn up and support our boys :thumbsu:
Hopefully we can make it a noisy cauldron, and on the field if we put the same pressure that we did to Hawthorn (tackling record), the Port players will feel totally under siege.
Not really, he pretty much gobbed off from the get go
I recall Sheeds as a more taciturn coach in the early years, the 93 flag went to his head, from then on it was all about Sheeds and his philosophies.
Very happy to hear, hope its drummed into the players heads the pitiful record against these show pony's cannot be tolerated anymore. Make a ****in stand.
May not be this week but Port Adelaide are going to get whats coming to them from Essendon one day soon and it will be ugly.
Boucks09
4 May 2010, 19:49
I can't stand Port. I'm shattered I can't go this week (my first missed home game in years).
People forget that they knocked us out of two finals series consecutively and have owned us for a long time.
I'm glad Knighta brought up Round 1 2009, that really ****ed me off with the way that C.Cornes brought it up after the game. Really hope we win some hard footy and knock them off.
Ludwig van Bertstare
4 May 2010, 19:56
inb4 we get smashed.
Valve Bounce
4 May 2010, 19:57
I'd be happy if our guys went out there and just concentrated on playing good footy and winning. Bugger the BS.
ghostdog
4 May 2010, 20:01
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407
Really liked the honesty in this part:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/knights-predicts-port-fireworks/story-e6frf9jf-1225862019407
Will be interesting to see if any of the players remonstrate with the only player more gutless than Campbell Brown, Dean Brogan.
I for one would love to see Hille bowl the big douche over. Michael Pettigrew has one coming his way, too.
Agreed. It's Pettigrew for a Hille's hoist.
*cringe*
Why give any team who has had it over us for quite a while MORE ammunition?
Ridiculous and unnecessary comments. Should of just kept quiet. Choco will probably now come out in the press and give it to us in some way and Port will probably be even more fired up this weekend...
By the way, Port are underdogs with the bookies and paying $2.00 for a win this weekend... absolutely ridiculous and worth at least a pineapple. They should be $1.40-1.50 favourites at least. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
People forget that they knocked us out of two finals series consecutively and have owned us for a long time.
We haven't forgotten.
Will be interesting to see if any of the players remonstrate with the only player more gutless than Campbell Brown, Dean Brogan.
I for one would love to see Hille bowl the big douche over. Michael Pettigrew has one coming his way, too.
Newsflash, Lovett doesn't play for your club anymore. It's now OK to admit that the woman-beating rapist prick deserves everything he gets and more. Carry on.
sen entertainment bloke
4 May 2010, 21:22
Like him to keep the cards closer to his chest?
Different context. You just didn't get it before.
Newsflash, Lovett doesn't play for your club anymore. It's now OK to admit that the woman-beating rapist prick deserves everything he gets and more. Carry on.I'm going to assume that you forgot to write "alleged" in there.
Regardless, both players were happy to perform dog acts on our players, and Brogan in particular has a history of picking out guys much smaller than him (including that guy at the airport: fact).
Scum bag, who like Campbell Brown, will eventually test somebody who won't just cop it. Although, come to think of it, there was a tiny guy who put him on his arse this year. So perhaps I should say again.
Different context. You just didn't get it before.If anything it's more appropriate now.
I don't agree with those saying it, but I can understand why people are saying Knights should've refrained from giving Port ammunition.
In the past context, Knights said he wanted to win the game. Hardly stuff worth being reserved about.
Hate them more than any other interstate team, that's for sure. Definitely need to beat them on our own turf. I ****ing hate then airsiren and other themed shit they put up at Etihad but this time I really want the stadium to be Cauldron of Pain. :p
I think that you have Brogan wrongly categorised.
He is the motivator for Power and tries to get into the opposition's head - to put them off their game.
A valuable player for Port but relatively harmless in a physical sense.
Here_we_come
5 May 2010, 00:00
Just wondering, why is it necessary to post the same link 4 times in the OP?
Just wondering, why is it necessary to post the same link 4 times in the OP?Reproduction of articles - EVERYBODY read! (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=608172)
centrelink1
5 May 2010, 00:23
Like him to keep the cards closer to his chest?
:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
sen entertainment bloke
5 May 2010, 06:59
If anything it's more appropriate now.
I don't agree with those saying it, but I can understand why people are saying Knights should've refrained from giving Port ammunition.
In the past context, Knights said he wanted to win the game. Hardly stuff worth being reserved about.
Nah.
On the Couch he said in answer to a question about the future with game and did so with a nervous chuckle. A throw away line that revealed the way he was feeling about the next game.
I was able to interpret that he was just hoping for a win. Malthouse would have to, rest is history.
This time he has made a deliberate statement. He could end up with egg on his face but he hasn't given away anything about how confident he is about the next game. Like he did last time.
Get it now?
Nothing to see here, Knights is trying to get some extra bums on seats (and helping to gee us up after two tough weeks).
It's also god to see plenty of Robert Walls wannabees around here having a go a Brogan picking on smaller players, when your 200cm tall most people are smaller than you!!
Hopefully a good contest between our clubs this weekend (but it appears we have alot more respect of your club than you guys have of ours:thumbsd:)
Slattery_20
5 May 2010, 07:57
Nah.
On the Couch he said in answer to a question about the future with game and did so with a nervous chuckle. A throw away line that revealed the way he was feeling about the next game.
I was able to interpret that he was just hoping for a win. Malthouse would have to, rest is history.
This time he has made a deliberate statement. He could end up with egg on his face but he hasn't given away anything about how confident he is about the next game. Like he did last time.
Get it now?
You want him to hope for a loss??? How differently would Malthouse prepare for that?
sen entertainment bloke
5 May 2010, 11:38
You want him to hope for a loss??? How differently would Malthouse prepare for that?
Nah. Not hope for a loss.
Just not to show the opposition he was relying on hope to win.
Getting any closer to understanding?
DapperDon
5 May 2010, 11:51
Nah. Not hope for a loss.
Just not to show the opposition he was relying on hope to win.
Getting any closer to understanding?
I don't think anyone is.............
Is it part of Knights strategy to build up every game into a "grudge" match. It seems 3/4 out of 6 weeks we've been filthy/upset/wanting payback/remembering/gunning for the opposition.
If it works I'm on board.. if not.. lets just stick to beating them!
Slattery_20
5 May 2010, 12:15
Nah. Not hope for a loss.
Just not to show the opposition he was relying on hope to win.
Getting any closer to understanding?
So he should have said "we're confident of winning and we've got a bag of tricks???"
Which would have been blatantly untrue, and shown up about 2 minutes in.
You're looking for Sheedy-esque mind games.
I don't think that wins anyone anything. If anything, it makes you look even worse when you do lose.
I think that you have Brogan wrongly categorised.
He is the motivator for Power and tries to get into the opposition's head - to put them off their game.
A valuable player for Port but relatively harmless in a physical sense.
^ THIS.
Yep, hate Brogan as much as you want. The Lovett incident was a 'mountain out of a mole hill' FFS (without re-living it). Brogan is like Hardwick before him... or like Libba, Craig Kelly, Rhys-Jones... and so on. Players who stir the pot, unsettle other teams and motivate their own. At the same time they're normally pretty good players themselves.
Of course he is going to pick on smaller blokes since he is 200cm... but he has never backed down from the big blokes either. Anyone on the footy ground is 'fair game' in terms of being tested... no matter their size.
As for Knights... the guy is a tosser (not because of Essendon at all). Sure he played a heap of games for mediocre Richmond, but what else has he achieved? He coached PAMFC (Magpies) in the SANFL and did stuff all there... could be said he was the start of the rot for that club. And some how he landed a gig at one of the biggest and best Victorian clubs in the AFL.
Now he comes out spilling some crap about the clubs having no respect for one another... since when... his arrival?
AFAIK, EFC and PAFC have been 2 clubs that have been highly respectful to each other. Sure we've had the wood over you for sometime, but the 2 clubs have shared coaches, staff and players over the years. Kevin Sheedy was alwasy hugely respectful to PAFC even before our AFL entry, and our coaches/club in return.
Personally I know I have always respected Essendon and attending Essendon games in either state. I respect their club, supporters and most players.
Knight's rant is either him trying to drum up a crowd for the game... or he still has a sour grapes over his PAMFC stint and the Brogan/Lovett incident.
Finally, I think Essendon & Knights aren't a good fit. Actually, I think Worsfold would be a good fit if you could lure him from WC.
Good luck guys.
Toots Hibbert
5 May 2010, 14:21
I've never minded Essendon. There have been a fair few links over the years with players and coaches. Many of us remember that Sheeds was supportive of Port prior to us getting into the AFL. If I lived in Melbourne I'd watch the Bombers a few times each season if Port weren't in town.
If Knights can fire up your players then good luck to him but really what happened last year was a bit of a storm in a teacup. I think he has probably ensured though, that this game has our players full attention. I was a little worried that there might be a let down after the Saints and Crows games.
If I were you I'd be a little worried that Knights approach may see more Bombers facing the tribunal.
I'm pretty happy with Dom Cassisi's response that we're not interested in mid week wars of words and that our guys will be concentrating on playing their best football on the weekend. I hope that we stay focussed on the ball and don't respond to any unsociable football.
Slattery_20
5 May 2010, 14:58
^ THIS.
Yep, hate Brogan as much as you want. The Lovett incident was a 'mountain out of a mole hill' FFS (without re-living it). Brogan is like Hardwick before him... or like Libba, Craig Kelly, Rhys-Jones... and so on. Players who stir the pot, unsettle other teams and motivate their own. At the same time they're normally pretty good players themselves.
And why should we not think he's a wanker for having a go at our players?
This all BS if you ask me. There is plenty of respect between the clubs and always has been. Sheeds respected Port as an old club with a rich history and always loved the Port players that came over to play with us. Williams was also the Reserves coach at Essendon and coached Hirdy, Mercuri, Lloyd, Lucas, etc before they became stars. Has even stated that he'd like to come back and coach one of the Melbourne clubs he was involved with (Collingwood & Essendon) one day. Knights has history with Port Magpies though and there is no love lost there. All of this is related to that more than anything else. The Brogan thing is a non event.
Powerade 08
5 May 2010, 16:25
The way I see it, these comments do nothing for your guys, but do a whole lot for ours, so a bad move by Knights.
On the Brogan thing, it wasn't that bad at all. The Pettigrew coathanger was worse.
The way I see it, these comments do nothing for your guys, but do a whole lot for ours, so a bad move by Knights.
On the Brogan thing, it wasn't that bad at all. The Pettigrew coathanger was worse.
the coathanger was just one of those things that happen. the abuse directed at lovett as he lay on the ground afterwards was another matter altogether.
i also recall the off the ball stuff that hird used to cop from port. and the broken ribs when the ruckman went for him instead of the ball.
no love lost with port at all.
ghostdog
5 May 2010, 17:43
the coathanger was just one of those things that happen. the abuse directed at lovett as he lay on the ground afterwards was another matter altogether.
i also recall the off the ball stuff that hird used to cop from port. and the broken ribs when the ruckman went for him instead of the ball.
no love lost with port at all.
I don't accept that.
The PA players had obviously decided before the game to use the off field issues Lovett was facing to try and get into the guy's head. Intimidating Lovett wasn't a spur of the moment decision. Brogan's big mouth from the outset should be indication enough of that. Pettigrew's action was opportunistic and stupid, and it is fair to imply, possibly part inspired by whatever discussion of Lovett the Port players had had.
In saying that, tactically, the abuse that followed from Pettigrew's recklessness was masterfully staged.
Anyways, I hated Port then and I hate them now, Lovett or not.
sen entertainment bloke
5 May 2010, 23:12
So he should have said "we're confident of winning and we've got a bag of tricks???"
I don't think you saw the show.
He should have just answered the question. About Ross Lyon's idea of altering the quarter structure of the game.
It just wasn't the moment to bring ANZAC day up.
I hope we cream Port this weekend, its time we got one back, but unless we are 100% on our game they will flog us.
Knights wont make any difference by what he says, its up to the players.
I loved what Brogan did to @@@@@@ should have finished the job mate.
Go Bombers
Longy413
6 May 2010, 12:49
Sheeds had a few runs under his belt before he did it.
He'd hardly been coaching much longer than Knights when he accused Hawthorn of being drug cheats.
I hope we cream Port this weekend, its time we got one back, but unless we are 100% on our game they will flog us.
Knights wont make any difference by what he says, its up to the players.
I loved what Brogan did to @@@@@@ should have finished the job mate.
Go Bombers
TAB has you guys as reasonable favourites. Essendon $1.68 Port $2.10.
Hopefully we put Lovett-Murray on Brogan when he's resting in the forward line. Be good to watch him run like a scared little girl. Tough against the little blokes. :rolleyes:
ontheroad
6 May 2010, 15:58
Essendon $1.85 / Port $1.95 at TAB now. Bit of money coming in for Port now.
Ben the Gooner
6 May 2010, 16:28
Essendon $1.85 / Port $1.95 at TAB now. Bit of money coming in for Port now.
Not surprised. If I wasn't an Essendon fan, I'd have loaded up on you earlier in the week.:eek:
TAB has you guys as reasonable favourites. Essendon $1.68 Port $2.10.
WTF...Port should be raging favourites for this game...we haven't played well consecutively at all this season.
Longy413
6 May 2010, 17:22
Essendon $1.85 / Port $1.95 at TAB now. Bit of money coming in for Port now.
Will Matty Primus ever learn?
Essendon $1.85 / Port $1.95 at TAB now. Bit of money coming in for Port now.
That would be Unitab?:confused:
Guessing Sportsbet is a bit different.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
7 May 2010, 05:43
i dont see nothing wrong with the comments just hope it dosn't backfire and we lose. :eek:
Just on those comments from Matthew Knights in respect to a player that no longer plays at your club, would Port have the right to be "filthy" if Mark Williams was playing this game given his little "choking" gesture a few years back when he wasn't playing for you guys?
U Got Reimered
7 May 2010, 16:11
TAB has you guys as reasonable favourites. Essendon $1.68 Port $2.10.
Then Port are a certainty.. Why is it that we find it so hard to win when we are the favourites..
Longy413
7 May 2010, 19:03
Just on those comments from Matthew Knights in respect to a player that no longer plays at your club, would Port have the right to be "filthy" if Mark Williams was playing this game given his little "choking" gesture a few years back when he wasn't playing for you guys?
Of course.