View Full Version : We CAN upset the Saints
Bombers36
10 May 2010, 13:40
Call me an optimist but I can think of a few reasons why we can upset the Saints:
No Reivoldt
We beat them last year
We were pretty good against Port except for last quater which resulted in the 3 point loss
M.Williams back. I bloody hope Knights plays him this week - should have played him against Port
They are due for a loss
They have a couple of days less rest than us
We certainly are not without a chance here - lets hope Carlton gives them a real tough match tonight!!
Jonesy1987
10 May 2010, 13:44
I think we can win as well. We should knock out Gilbert, as we need that long option available when we run into trouble.
U Got Reimered
10 May 2010, 13:55
It's good to be optimistic, but a few things need to happen before we have a chance of an upset:
Hayes/Dal Santo/Montagna/Goddard/Gilbert all get reported tonight
Every Essendon player plays their best game of the season
The umpires are on our side
I just can't see it...
Slattery_20
10 May 2010, 14:02
See if you can get a double on us beating the Aints then losing to Richmond. Would be at $10 or $15 I think.
mark1881
10 May 2010, 14:05
We should knock out Gilbert
my supercoach team disagrees with this
Was thinking about starting a similar thread.
The main point for me is that the StKilda style of play suits Ess.
We are a hard team to lock down. With Roo out the St's seem to have put more emphasis on this lock down style of play. If we can play the game by our terms (fast ball through the middle) we have every chance to beat them.
Either way I am hoping for a great match.
Jonesy1987
10 May 2010, 14:08
If we can play the game by our terms (fast ball through the middle) we have every chance to beat them.
This is the key, the Western Bulldogs were afraid of the zone and changed their game plan, in the end it cost them the game. We need to back ourselves, and kick well.
The Donners
10 May 2010, 14:10
Yeah we can beat the Saints but for the benefit of the club I hope we lose, the more wins Knights gets the greater the chance Essendon will honour his contract. A win would merely cover a gaping hole with a bandaid. Obviously a terrible way to think but I guarantee I'll be vindicated.
Jonesy1987
10 May 2010, 14:13
Yeah we can beat the Saints but for the benefit of the club I hope we lose, the more wins Knights gets the greater the chance Essendon will honour his contract. A win would merely cover a gaping hole with a bandaid. Obviously a terrible way to think but I guarantee I'll be vindicated.
Hahaha I love you Donners.
What we need to do, is give the ball to Fletch at every opportunity. Let him torp the sumbitch over their zone every chance he gets.
centurion
10 May 2010, 14:44
Yeah we can beat the Saints but for the benefit of the club I hope we lose, the more wins Knights gets the greater the chance Essendon will honour his contract. A win would merely cover a gaping hole with a bandaid. Obviously a terrible way to think but I guarantee I'll be vindicated.
At least you're honest Donners. Im with you in regards to the coach. But i hate losing.
Ben the Gooner
10 May 2010, 14:48
I agree with the OP. The one thing which sets St Kilda apart from the competition, especially in their current rugby style of play, is their tackling pressure. If we can break even with them there, our superior attacking prowess (no exaggeration whatsoever) will give us a huge chance.
Plus, every time I go to Essendon-St Kilda games with my St Kilda supporting mate (once - Rd 20 last year) we win. I'm going with him on Sunday. You can all thank me now.
Eleven 38
10 May 2010, 14:51
I agree with the OP. The one thing which sets St Kilda apart from the competition, especially in their current rugby style of play, is their tackling pressure. If we can break even with them there, our superior attacking prowess (no exaggeration whatsoever) will give us a huge chance.
Plus, every time I go to Essendon-St Kilda games with my St Kilda supporting mate (once - Rd 20 last year) we win. I'm going with him on Sunday. You can all thank me now.
this theory is a big reason i stopped going to bombers vs north games when i went to 6losses in a row!!
Ben the Gooner
10 May 2010, 14:57
this theory is a big reason i stopped going to bombers vs north games when i went to 6losses in a row!!
That and they're ****ing boring.;)
this theory is a big reason i stopped going to bombers vs north games when i went to 6losses in a row!!
Same here with Port. Until this year, I had been to 8 port games, and we lost all of them. I missed the one in 2004, and lo and behold we one. I stopped going a couple of years ago, and we still haven't beaten them!!!! :thumbsd::thumbsd:
Lance Uppercut
10 May 2010, 15:34
See if you can get a double on us beating the Aints then losing to Richmond. Would be at $10 or $15 I think.
easy money
Eleven 38
10 May 2010, 16:07
Same here with Port. Until this year, I had been to 8 port games, and we lost all of them. I missed the one in 2004, and lo and behold we one. I stopped going a couple of years ago, and we still haven't beaten them!!!! :thumbsd::thumbsd:
i think there was 2-3 port losses in a row i saw aswell!!
i first signed up as a member of the bombers in round 2 2006 and saw us lose 14 in a row.....that was nasty also...
Valve Bounce
10 May 2010, 16:38
Call me an optimist but I can think of a few reasons why we can upset the Saints:!
What are you going to do? Make faces at them? :eek:
easy moneyhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_R3u20PLm4Lw/SioZ48cfslI/AAAAAAAAATc/s2oO7XYMC0U/s320/johnconner_1.jpg
Frothies Mcveigh
10 May 2010, 18:04
And Kepler Bradley CAN win the brownlow.
But seriously I thinnk we are a fair chance. We need to back our selves and if we are struggling to get past the zone Fletch torpes down to Gumby and co.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
10 May 2010, 19:27
me too.essendons tackling and pressure has been good the last 2 weeks.if they can get another 100 tackles this week we will win.then we can punish them with pace going foward
Tailypo
10 May 2010, 19:45
Yes, we can.
Not so confident now that Slattery has been ruled out though...don't want Milne or Schneider getting on top. Fletch-->Milne, maybe.
Ryder_Hooker
10 May 2010, 20:17
Carlton are doing a pretty good job of it atm!
Daytripper
10 May 2010, 20:56
Worst possible result here for us.
St Kilda are getting destroyed and you'd think Lyon will be resting players in the last 1/4 in readiness for our game on a 6 day break.
Agree. Worst possible result.
The Carlton coaching staff obviously thought the same thing as us.
What did everyone expect after starting an optimistic thread? ;)
Skeeta Olly
10 May 2010, 21:30
What did everyone expect after starting an optimistic thread? ;)
This.
Dammit, people.
Somebody start new threads titled "Carlton to win every game for the rest of the year", "We will not make the finals", "Hurley will not kick 100 goals", "Pears will not come back from injury this week" and "Watson will not win the Brownlow".
:(
That's what I hate about what our club has become. Scared to play a team after they've been pansted the week before. We should have a killer instinct and see it as an opportunity to get them while they're down.
Saints are a joke. Been that way for 130+ years and no 19 game winning streak will change that. We are Essendon. They are nothing.
Bombers by 40 points. :thumbsu:
Somebody start new threads titled "Carlton to win every game for the rest of the year", "We will not make the finals", "Hurley will not kick 100 goals", "Pears will not come back from injury this week" and "Watson will not win the Brownlow".
Hate how the last few years we have beaten carlton, and made there fans suicidal only for it to almost be a prop up for their season. I wonder what would happen if they beat us instead.
Lance Uppercut
10 May 2010, 21:52
I'm with Guzz.
**** this shit. St Blunder have shown they are absolutely vulnerable to a well-prosecuted speed & running game.
We match up well personnel wise, & game plan wise.
We have every chance of compounding the Stains pain.
I'm more confident against the Saints this week than I was against West Coast or Collingwood.
As has been said, we do match up really well against them.
Now if we can just learn the lesson Carlton have shown us on how to break Stkilda's defensive setup by quick movement BY FOOT we have a chance. Carlton had 95 more kicks than handballs.
Johnny619
10 May 2010, 22:11
Saints are gonna come out firing next week.
Frothies Mcveigh
10 May 2010, 22:14
If Carlton can tear them up like this then surely we can do the same, if not better. CARN DONS.
Ben the Gooner
10 May 2010, 22:16
They are nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Biggest one man team in living memory.
Shit, score 9 goals and we win. Whoever's on Dawson (they got rid of Goose for this bloke) will kick 9.
Smyth94
10 May 2010, 22:20
That's what I hate about what our club has become. Scared to play a team after they've been pansted the week before. We should have a killer instinct and see it as an opportunity to get them while they're down.
Saints are a joke. Been that way for 130+ years and no 19 game winning streak will change that. We are Essendon. They are nothing.
Bombers by 40 points. :thumbsu:
LOL - That's poetry :thumbsu::D
We got to run them stupid.
Dempsey, Atkinson, Jetta, Davey, Winderlich, Houli, NLM all need to have big games.
St Kilda are strong, skillful and well drilled. However without Nick, they rely on Milne and Kosi to kick goals, Kosi is average, Hooker should be fine. Milne is the one who will worry use, specially with slattery out.
Their defense is about supporting each other. Moving the ball quick and not allowing them to get their players back will be the key.
ilovegussy
10 May 2010, 22:29
After tonight's St Kida game i think we should beat them. I just wish we were playing them tonight because if we did we would have definitely beat them. We have to include all the fast players in the team. We should win.. Hopefully our longer break helps.
table tennis
10 May 2010, 22:33
We are ****ed now!!!! Were kidding if we think ST.Kilda will be that bad two weeks
in a row.....
We are ****ed now!!!! Were kidding if we think ST.Kilda will be that bad two weeks
in a row.....
What happened the week after we beat them?;)
We are ****ed now!!!! Were kidding if we think ST.Kilda will be that bad two weeks
in a row.....
:rolleyes:
Harden up. They've been bad for 3 weeks already.
They haven't kicked 10 goals in a game since round 4.
Jobey to ream the Saints bareback again.
Knight Ryders
10 May 2010, 22:49
The Saints backline is very tall. I'd like to see Jetta named emergency, late in.
Ben the Gooner
10 May 2010, 22:49
100 tackles for another consecutive week would just crush their spirits. That's all they have going for them with the blond fella out, so if we ream them there, they have nothing.
Just an average side without Riewoldt, which is embarrassing given how good Goddard, Hayes and Gilbert are.
we CAN and we WILL;) we match up well on the saints, expect a 30 point win. Hope the odds for Essendon to win are high so i can make some easy money.
Shit, score 9 goals and we win. Whoever's on Dawson (they got rid of Goose for this bloke) will kick 9.Correction: they got rid of Goose and Hudgeton for that hack.
No excuses if we lose to StKilda this week
- StKilda coming off a six day break
- No Riewoldt
- StKilda have kicked 6,7 and 8 goals in the last 3 weeks
bombre-boy
11 May 2010, 00:21
If we continue to butcher the ball we will not beat anyone...richmond included.
You can win all the stats you want but if you give up the ball they are all meaningless.
Carltank executed very well tonight...that and their speed is what did it for them.
Bring only the speed component next week and we will not win.
pacemaker
11 May 2010, 01:48
If Essendon play their quickest possible side and a game plan is implemented to this team attribute then yes.
Black Flag
11 May 2010, 04:54
hate to say it, but guzz is right... you should pants 'em.
hope you get smacked though.
TheDon35
11 May 2010, 05:02
Well I don't know about 'we should win' but we definately can win.
The Saints look like it's caught up with them at the minute, though we'd have to play better than we've played this year to get the chocolates I would have thought.
Bombers36
11 May 2010, 08:40
The Saints are playing crap since Roo went down. Would have preferred them to win last night though as dont like them on the rebound after a few ordinary displays....
They seem to be struggling to kick goals which suprises me when they have guys like Goddard, Milne, Sneider, & Kosi playing. I particularly dislike Milne who seems to come out to play against us. Not sure who we can match up on him with H.Slats out - maybe McVeigh??
Anyone think the Saints will come to the game with a tweaked gameplan? Surely they would be expecting us to try tear through them with our speed?
Slattery_20
11 May 2010, 09:46
hate to say it, but guzz is right... you should pants 'em.
hope you get smacked though.
Welcher.
Pocket_Pears
11 May 2010, 10:54
St Kilda's forward line was woeful last night.
Kosi has no idea how to lead properly and add Schneider, McQualter, Gwilt and Clarke, and you have a fairly ordinary forward line. Milne is the only shining light - and only when the Saints are winning, otherwise he just goes missing.
St Kilda's backline also had no idea how to stop the small forwards. They had Gilbert, Dawson, Blake and Fisher, and Carlton's small forwards just ran rings around them. We should bring in Jetta this week and watch him, Davey and Zaharakis do the same.
I think McVeigh should play on Milne with Slatts out. Hocking should go to Dal Santo and wear him like a glove.
invinciBlues
11 May 2010, 14:19
Just blitz the flooding bastards and you'll be fine :thumbsu:
Agreed^^^. I hope people were watching....
SaintsPremiers08
11 May 2010, 16:13
St Kilda's forward line was woeful last night.
Kosi has no idea how to lead properly and add Schneider, McQualter, Gwilt and Clarke, and you have a fairly ordinary forward line. Milne is the only shining light - and only when the Saints are winning, otherwise he just goes missing.
St Kilda's backline also had no idea how to stop the small forwards. They had Gilbert, Dawson, Blake and Fisher, and Carlton's small forwards just ran rings around them. We should bring in Jetta this week and watch him, Davey and Zaharakis do the same..
Gwilt isn't a forward. he played there for about 5% of the game, he's one our most improved defenders.
Our forward line was woeful because we couldn't kick straight, and we kept kicking to 2 on 1's or 3 on 1's. We didn't kick a goal from a set shot, but had plenty of opportunities.
and finally, I expect Dawson to be dropped. He has been pathetic this season.
St.Kilda will come out firing on sunday, guarantee it!
eth-dog
11 May 2010, 18:13
hate to say it, but guzz is right... you should pants 'em.
hope you get smacked though.
We love you too Blacky
;)
Anyone think the Saints will come to the game with a tweaked gameplan? Surely they would be expecting us to try tear through them with our speed?
I'm guessing they would to some extent.
james_omahoney
11 May 2010, 22:54
Saints don't really need to tweak their gameplan too much, they just need to pull their fingers out. Obviously they're not the same mental team without Riewoldt out there leading them, which I suspect would have more of an impact on the scoreboard than the tangible benefits he also provides.
Lance Uppercut
11 May 2010, 23:17
St.Kilda will come out firing on sunday, guarantee it!
whereas we'll run out goofed out on Xanex, hey?
I'm betting St Kilda came out fired up last week, like they do every week. I'd rather play them in dismal form than in great form, & we have the capacity to do exactly what Carlton did.
Unless they are going to literally breathe fire, they'll be as pumped as they are for every game
whereas we'll run out goofed out on Xanex, hey?
I would be *so* angry with our medical staff if they did!
U Got Reimered
12 May 2010, 11:58
Does anyone else in here think that it was poor form that nick Riewoldt wasn't with his team at the quarter time and half time breaks?
Especially at half time, wouldn't that have been a great opportunity for him to be the captain and try and gee his team up for a better second half. But instead he was with the commentators.
Unless I missed something, I thought that was very average. If Watson did that I would be pissed
The Saints backline is very tall. I'd like to see Jetta named emergency, late in.
What we need to do, is give the ball to Fletch at every opportunity. Let him torp the sumbitch over their zone every chance he gets.
:thumbsu::thumbsu:
Bombers36
17 May 2010, 16:25
Its good to be proven right - sometimes :)
table tennis
18 May 2010, 10:37
We are ****ed now!!!! Were kidding if we think ST.Kilda will be that bad two weeks
in a row.....
Egg in my face, but this time the egg tastes so great! lol