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Smyth94
13 May 2010, 20:42
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Venue: Ethiad Stadium

Last time they met:

Essendon fans hold this game dear to their hearts. The last time these two
sides met, it was an absolute classic encounter, and one of the games of the season. Coming into the game, the Bombers had most bitterly lost to West Coast away in Perth. A win would keep Essendon's finals hopes alive, a loss would just about rule out finals for 2009. On the other hand, the Saint's had not yet lost a game in 2009, sitting comfortably on top of the ladder with 19 wins, 0 losses. Significantly, an ESsendon win would maintain their record of 20 straight wins to the H&A season (achieved in 2000) intact.

The game itself was an amazing contest, Essendon threw everything at St.
Kilda and at one stage led by as much as 7 goals. However, the Saint's weren't to be denied and rallied to reel in the margin during the last quarter after Essendon had lost key players Dustin Fletcher and Paddy Ryder during the third quarter.

Essendon's Form:
Despite last week's heartbreaking lost to Port Adelaide, the Bombers have
responded well since the ANZAC Day debacle. The most significant improvement has been intensity at the contest which has our contested possession and
tackle numbers sky-high (clocking 107 and 105 tackles in the past two
weeks). Although Ryder has begun to find some form in the ruck, David Hille remains out of form and ineffective at the centre bounces. He looks to have lost all his confidence in leaping front-on and has resorted to turning his body to opposition ruckmen, allowing them to jump over him - This cost Essendon especially in the final term vs Port Adelaide.

St. Kilda's Form:
The good news for Essendon is that the Saint's have struggled for the past
few weeks. They had to use every bit of their defensive prowess to get over the Dogs in Round 6, whilst in Round 7 they got smashed by a Carlton team
who got the ball into their F50 as quickly as possible from the central
corridor. Scoring goals has been a real worry for the Saints, they have
scored less than 10 goals in each of their last two outings and in modern
footy, 10 goals isn't enough to win games of footy week-in, week-out.

Who's going to win?
The Saint's are going to be fired up - they will be desparate to atone for
their humiliating loss against Carlton (whom they've regularly enjoyed whipping for the past decade). There's just no way Nick Dal Santo will have such a poor game twice in a row. They are going to come out and try to smash our young bodies and constrict the space through the corridor as much as
possible.

First and foremost, Essendon need to bring the intensity of the past two weeks to this game. If we tackle and contest the footy just as hard as the Saint's we will give ourselves every chance to win the game.

Whilst on "paper" St. Kilda have far better players, their style of footy just isn't working and it seems that playing this ultra-defensive game style
has tired their players over the past fortnight. As said above, if Essendon bring the intensity over the past few weeks, mixed with some maturity in the attacking half, then I won't be surprised if we come away with the win and that's how I'm seeing it.

Essendon by 15 points.

Key Match-ups:

Scott Gumbleton vs Sam Fisher
- If there's one match up that I would like to see, well here it is. One of the chief reasons Carlton stitched up the Saint's on Monday night was
because Sam Fisher's influence was negligible. If he goes to Gumbleton, I
would tell Gumby to run like he's never run before, he's basically the
fittest player at our club (bar Stanton) and if we can get one of Gilbert or
Fisher away from our goals, we will be stopping one of their strengths which is to peel off their man and intercept/spoil the footy coming in.

Jobe Watson vs Lenny Hayes
- These two players put on clinics against each other in 2009. Watson averaged well over 35 possessions vs the Saints in 2009 with Hayes not too far behind (vs Essendon). I personally hope these two clearance/contested possession machines go at it again because when they're hot - there a few better to watch.

McVeigh vs Milne
-With the Voldt out of the picture, Milne becomes their most dangerous player in attack. McVeigh has been quite good the past few weeks and will
surely get the job of shutting down Milne, if we keep him quiet, the Saint's
will struggle to kick > 10 goals.

Godzke
15 May 2010, 00:49
Milne's always been dangerous against us. Goddard can kick a bag but apart from that I'm not sure where they're going to get their goals from. A few from the midfield but we're definitely in with a chance.

Win the contested ball + breaking down their zone and we're in with a big shout.

Bombers36
15 May 2010, 07:30
I like the look of the side but NLM out is a loss - Jetta showed a bit for Bendigo last week & hopefully he can have an impact in his first game for the year, and it will be interesting to see how Myers goes. well balanced team though - I think they will line up something like this:

Atkinson Fletch McVeigh
Dempsey Hooker Hocking
Melksham Watson Jetta
Monfires Gumby Zaharakis
Ryder Hurley Davey

Hille Stanton Winders

Myers Howlett Lonergan Prismal

Boucks09
15 May 2010, 09:56
vs



Scott Gumbleton vs Sam Fisher
- If there's one match up that I would like to see, well here it is. One of the chief reasons Carlton stitched up the Saint's on Monday night was
because Sam Fisher's influence was negligible. If he goes to Gumbleton, I
would tell Gumby to run like he's never run before, he's basically the
fittest player at our club (bar Stanton) and if we can get one of Gilbert or Fisher away from our goals, we will be stopping one of their strengths which is to peel off their man and intercept/spoil the footy coming in.



This is a major key to the game IMHO. It is for that reason that I'm a little surprised we haven't named Willams.

Hurley > Dawson
Gumby > Fisher
Monfries > Gilbert

I just think with Willo in the side, Monfries could've taken somebody like Farren Ray and we could've really made their defense accountable.

For those that are a little confused about the Ins I see it this way:

- Jetta replaces Lonergan who replaces NLM
- Myers replaces Slattery

I'd love to see Myers in the guts but don't think it will happen yet.

WeAreEssendon
15 May 2010, 10:06
St Kilda are a top 2 side. We are bottom 4. We won't get within 6 goals and that's the reality of life at the moment.

Carlton had Judd last week and 3 natural goal kickers in Betts, Gartlett, Yarran. We don't have Judd and we don't have any small forwards who are selfish goal kickers like they do.

The Saints will be bouncing back and will be fierce at the contest. We have too many young bodies and it will take it's toll late in the game and they'll kick away.

footycool
15 May 2010, 10:14
St Kilda are a top 2 side. We are bottom 4. We won't get within 6 goals and that's the reality of life at the moment.

Carlton had Judd last week and 3 natural goal kickers in Betts, Gartlett, Yarran. We don't have Judd and we don't have any small forwards who are selfish goal kickers like they do.

The Saints will be bouncing back and will be fierce at the contest. We have too many young bodies and it will take it's toll late in the game and they'll kick away.
I would argue that Watson is like a Judd to us. And we have Hurbleton, carlton only have small forwards. Stop being negative :thumbsd:

HFF_07
15 May 2010, 11:27
This is a major key to the game IMHO. It is for that reason that I'm a little surprised we haven't named Willams.

Hurley > Dawson
Gumby > Fisher
Monfries > Gilbert

I just think with Willo in the side, Monfries could've taken somebody like Farren Ray and we could've really made their defense accountable.

For those that are a little confused about the Ins I see it this way:

- Jetta replaces Lonergan who replaces NLM
- Myers replaces Slattery

I'd love to see Myers in the guts but don't think it will happen yet.

Agree with that Boucks :thumbsu:

Frothies Mcveigh
15 May 2010, 11:28
1. We are not a bottom 4 side
2. St.Kilda certainly are not playing like a top 2 side
3. Facepalm at footycool

I really think we are in with a good chance. If Monfries can minimize Gilberts influence on the game and snag a few goals that will really go a long way to winning the game. Kozi dosent really do a whole lot these days so that leaves Milne and Goddard as their best goal scoring options. We really need Hit Outs to advantage. St.Kilda are a really good team around the stoppages with the likes of Lenny Hayes so the Ruckman need to dominate.

footycool
15 May 2010, 11:44
1. We are not a bottom 4 side
2. St.Kilda certainly are not playing like a top 2 side
3. Facepalm at footycool

I really think we are in with a good chance. If Monfries can minimize Gilberts influence on the game and snag a few goals that will really go a long way to winning the game. Kozi dosent really do a whole lot these days so that leaves Milne and Goddard as their best goal scoring options. We really need Hit Outs to advantage. St.Kilda are a really good team around the stoppages with the likes of Lenny Hayes so the Ruckman need to dominate.
Why, i may ask? :)

HFF_07
15 May 2010, 11:58
A few points that need to be adressed.

1) Sam Gilbert is the # 1 player in the comp for marks from opposition kicks, we need to use the talls wisely. Get Gumbleton on the long searching leads, get Hurley one out on Dawson in the square. If Gilbert would like to zone off on a say Monfries, we need to use Monfries as much as possible and make him (Gilbert) as accountable as possible.

2) Midfield battles are going to be crucial. Last years win was set up on the back of some individual brilliance from Jobe Watson. We will need a similar game from him if we are to even be a chane, add to that, Jason Winderlich, Brent Prismal, Mark Mecveigh, Alwyn Davey and Brent Stanton are all going to have to stand up tomorrow and show they are true 'senior' players. If this core group of players can all have good games, plus the emergence of a couple of the younger guys. namely Jake Melksham, Ben Howlett and even Leroy Jetta (who looks invigorated) can all have good game.

3) Accountable football is the key to this game though. If we begin to leak goals, it could get ugly. They have so many avenues to goal, from the guys up front in Kosi, Milne, Schneider, McQualter to the goal kicking mids in Farren Ray and Leigh Montagna, whilst there defenders try and get forward at every chance with Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard and Sam Gilbert all posting majors at one stage or another so far this season. It will be our ability to read the game and change the game plan up accordingly. If it looks like its going to get ugly, sure bet is, it will.

4) Run and carry has been a big part of our game that has gone missing this season. We have all seen that, having seen us lose Andrew Lovett, arguably our best explosive runner, we have dropped off in this department. We need to continue taking risks and running the ball through the corridor with the likes of Lonergan, Melksham, Jetta, Howlett taking the positions that were filled by Ricky Dyson, Andrew Lovett and Adam Mcphee running the ball and carrying it through 'the rolling zone'.

5) I feel our biggest worry has been the spread of goal kickers we have had. Has any player kicked over 5 goals in a game once this year? I'm not even sure. We need to find more avenues to goal and not continue to rely on Gumbleton, Hurley, Monfries to kick our goals, it is time for Zaharakis, Davey, Hille/Ryder to put a stamp on a game this year, like Hurley did against the hawks last year to really blast the game open, or like Andrew Lovett against Collingwood last year when he took the game on and set up an enthralling last 10 minutes. Hopefully we can have an even spread of goal kickers and a major focal point who stands out.

6) Have faith in your team mates, last week it looked like the guys did not want to kick it long to Hurley, despite leading to good positions. He was frusterated at games end by the lack of opporunity despite being one of our best one - on - one body players. Kick it long and give him a chance against possibly Zac Dawson.

7) The ruck contest will surely be a battle. Gardiner is reinvigorated at St.Kilda whilst young Ben McEvoy has shown enough to suggest a career at AFL level beckons, a far cry from Essendon's ruck division who were pantsed by Port Adelaides solitary ruckmen, Dean Brogan. Don't know why, Ryder was one of the most improved players in the comp last year, whilst David Hille the year earlier took the scalps of some of the games best ruckmen to potentially be an All Australian (despite eventually missing out). I would hope that the Hille/Ryder combination can work over the young McEvoy and the aging Gardiner and prove to the Essendon faithful that all is not lost in our ruck department.

would think that is just some key points that hopefully Knights can talk to the boys and get them to try and play the game on our terms and not theres.

Frothies Mcveigh
15 May 2010, 12:12
I'm pretty sure our highest individual goal tallies are Williams 4 in R3 and Hurley 4 in R6.

WinderliciouS
15 May 2010, 13:04
5) I feel our biggest worry has been the spread of goal kickers we have had. Has any player kicked over 5 goals in a game once this year? I'm not even sure. We need to find more avenues to goal and not continue to rely on Gumbleton, Hurley, Monfries to kick our goals, it is time for Zaharakis, Davey, Hille/Ryder to put a stamp on a game this year, like Hurley did against the hawks last year to really blast the game open, or like Andrew Lovett against Collingwood last year when he took the game on and set up an enthralling last 10 minutes. Hopefully we can have an even spread of goal kickers and a major focal point who stands out.



IMO, you don't need players to kick bags of 5 to win you the game. Unlike Carlton of the 000's, Essendon is a team. We don't have to rely on Gumbleton or Hurley alone to win us the game. We indeed have to find other avenues to goal, and certainly have been displaying that all season long, with numbers of individual goalkickers in each round being 9, 6, (both in losses), 7 (with Willo 4 and Reimers 3), 7, 6 (both in losses again), then a massive 11 against Hawthorn, then 10 against Port, I'd say that's fairly solid for a team that's recorded 2 wins for the season.

Also, I think Monfries or Dyson should put a forward tag on Gilbert, Hurley should play on Fisher and Gumbleton should play deep so Hurley can launch it down there on his massive left boot into those long arms which tower above those stubby little stumps on Dawson.

If Jones goes to Stanton, good luck to him. Jones can try his best, but Stanton will still get the pill no matter what.

Watson to get another 37 possessions and 170 odd SuperCoach points. :thumbsu:
Gumbleton, Hurley, Monfries and Williams to kick 3. :D

Thank you.

LB#16
15 May 2010, 22:46
Feeling a bit shaky about this one. We have it in us but I can never be confident as it always screws me over without fail.

No Paytv and considering the afl have shut down free online streaming means that I will be listening on the radio constantly throughout. Hopefully it's a close game or a big win to us, that would be great.

Great preview too. :thumbsu:

silk
15 May 2010, 23:11
Feeling a bit shaky about this one. We have it in us but I can never be confident as it always screws me over without fail.

No Paytv and considering the afl have shut down free online streaming means that I will be listening on the radio constantly throughout. Hopefully it's a close game or a big win to us, that would be great.

Great preview too. :thumbsu:

Just about..... which sucks....

Zahasouvlakis
15 May 2010, 23:27
IMO, you don't need players to kick bags of 5 to win you the game. Unlike Carlton of the 000's, Essendon is a team. We don't have to rely on Gumbleton or Hurley alone to win us the game. We indeed have to find other avenues to goal, and certainly have been displaying that all season long, with numbers of individual goalkickers in each round being 9, 6, (both in losses), 7 (with Willo 4 and Reimers 3), 7, 6 (both in losses again), then a massive 11 against Hawthorn, then 10 against Port, I'd say that's fairly solid for a team that's recorded 2 wins for the season.

Also, I think Monfries or Dyson should put a forward tag on Gilbert, Hurley should play on Fisher and Gumbleton should play deep so Hurley can launch it down there on his massive left boot into those long arms which tower above those stubby little stumps on Dawson.

If Jones goes to Stanton, good luck to him. Jones can try his best, but Stanton will still get the pill no matter what.

Watson to get another 37 possessions and 170 odd SuperCoach points. :thumbsu:
Gumbleton, Hurley, Monfries and Williams to kick 3. :D

Thank you.
Dyson's injured, Willo hasn't been picked.

Godzke
16 May 2010, 09:37
NLM's injury will hurt us. I didn't realise he was out until this morning. Won't need him so much down back, but in the middle, he's got the engine and toughness to win contested ball all day.

bipolarbeaR
16 May 2010, 10:38
Yeah, the NLM injury is bad for us, I am not very confident in this game, people are really talking our chances up though. Carlton won last weekend because St Kilda were VERY flat.
That being said, if NLM was in I think this would have been the best tackling team I have seen!

kaskine
16 May 2010, 16:27
Milne's always been dangerous against us.
u just dont remember when Houli was playin on him last year :eek:

Godzke
16 May 2010, 16:49
What's a Houli?

Call Me Cake
16 May 2010, 19:57
Milne is the jugular.

Spike is the pressure poiiinttttttttttttttttttttt.