View Full Version : Toast Matthew Knights won us the game!!!!
Well done to MK today.
And since there was a silly thread last week, surely this week deserves this thread.
Lost hooker, was quick to react by putting hurley down back, and pushing a ruckman forward.
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Picked a fast team.
Played Myers in the guts most of the game.
Didn't resort to making Hocking play back pocket and let him play in the guts. :thumbsu:
Well done to MK today.
And since there was a silly thread last week, surely this week deserves this thread.
Lost hooker, was quick to react by putting hurley down back, and pushing a ruckman forward.
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Picked a fast team.
Played Myers in the guys most of the game.
Didn't resort to making Hocking play back pocket and let him play in the guts. :thumbsu:
This.. agree 100%! It seems MK is learning.. and not a moment too soon! Top job today from the coaches box. We had the right cattle in the right places to bring home the points.
Kudos to all.
Dr Moose
16 May 2010, 20:00
Well done to MK today.
And since there was a silly thread last week, surely this week deserves this thread.
Lost hooker, was quick to react by putting hurley down back, and pushing a ruckman forward.
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Picked a fast team.
Played Myers in the guys most of the game.
Didn't resort to making Hocking play back pocket and let him play in the guts. :thumbsu:
I'd disagree here silk. With more scoring shots and possessions than us, St Kilda had the game there to win. They fell down doing the same things we're usually guilty of; too many handballs to players under pressure, then ferocious tackling bringing about a turnover. They also had a lot of 50's awarded against them, and the 2nd half legspeed of Jetta, Atkinson and Davey couldn't be matched.
What I hope Knighter picks up from here was how to arrest the momentum of a couple of opposition goals, and getting the ball out wide to space.
But sure, he's kept the wolves from the door a little longer with this performance
blitzer
16 May 2010, 20:08
I think MK did a pretty good job tonight. Really pleased to see Ryder start in the ruck and Hille ruck later on, it just works so much better overall. I've never seen Hille look so dangerous up forward, could be really handy there in the future. He did a very good job on matchups in the midfield considering, the likes of Welsh/Dyson who normally play defensive roles were out. The Hurley move was a good one, although i think it was pretty obvious it needed to be done.
stugots
16 May 2010, 20:18
Played Myers in the guts most of the game
finally the penny dropped:eek:
This board has lit up like a friggin Xmas tree again.
I approve this thread though.
Skeeta Olly
16 May 2010, 20:23
This board has lit up like a friggin Xmas tree again.
Post of the night.
Lance Uppercut
16 May 2010, 20:28
hahahahaha good thread :p
stander
16 May 2010, 20:34
This.. agree 100%! It seems MK is learning.. and not a moment too soon! Top job today from the coaches box. We had the right cattle in the right places to bring home the points.
Kudos to all.
You forgot something- Kudos to all but Knights should still be sacked according to Rines.
King Of The Hille
16 May 2010, 21:16
If I see another thread the next time we lose regarding Knights inabilities to ciach and calling for his axing, shits gonna hit the roof.
Zahasouvlakis
16 May 2010, 21:56
If I see another thread the next time we lose regarding Knights inabilities to ciach and calling for his axing, shits gonna hit the roof.
:confused:
It's official: Stanton is shit and will piss off the Gold Coast
/thread lol
lemon chicken
16 May 2010, 22:25
Not sure what other options we had regarding Hooker so i wouldnt count that as a big one. Was line-ball on the fwd set-up with Davey, Zaka and Jetta as the H/Fwds, and the big blokes playing deep. At times i thought it wasnt working but he stuck with it and created a heap of fwd pressure so thats a tick. I thought Myers was average and probably did his best work in defence.
King Of The Hille
16 May 2010, 23:03
It's official: Stanton is shit and will piss off the Gold Coast
/thread lol
Even though that is a joke...
**** you man, **** you
The fist worked. Didn't concede in red time.
Even though that is a joke...
**** you man, **** you
Always need a bit of fire and spice in a thread. :D
The fist worked. Didn't concede in red time.This.
A few around me were screaming "Don't slow it down!" "Kick the ****ing thing!" when we were playing possession football.
We perfected this tonight. :thumbsu::thumbsu:
lamaros
17 May 2010, 00:46
Honestly I think we got lucky. Saints played poorly and we played better, but there's still a whole room for improvement.
Our pressure, however, was excellent.
Good job from the coaches though. Hurley down back was the right (if only) move, and Dempsey (even though he still isn't putting his body on the line enough for me), Myers, Jetta, all showed why they were in the team and played well in their positions.
Colyer still shouldn't be in the side, but he did some good things too.
The Donners
17 May 2010, 07:29
Well done to MK today.
And since there was a silly thread last week, surely this week deserves this thread.
Lost hooker, was quick to react by putting hurley down back, and pushing a ruckman forward.
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Picked a fast team.
Played Myers in the guts most of the game.
Didn't resort to making Hocking play back pocket and let him play in the guts. :thumbsu:
Not really a genius, 95% of posters here on the Essendon board have been demanding Hille play forward and Ryder play no. 1 ruck.
Now, I didn't watch much of the first half but what I did see Hocking was playing in the back-half. It's interesting that you've said he played in the guts.
TheDon35
17 May 2010, 07:49
Well done to MK today.
And since there was a silly thread last week, surely this week deserves this thread.
Lost hooker, was quick to react by putting hurley down back, and pushing a ruckman forward.
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Picked a fast team.
Played Myers in the guts most of the game.
Didn't resort to making Hocking play back pocket and let him play in the guts. :thumbsu:
And by puting this thread up, you make yourself look just as silly as the person that put last weeks thread up. Especially given the meek justifications given. Just like I said last week. Rediculous.
stander
17 May 2010, 08:28
And by puting this thread up, you make yourself look just as silly as the person that put last weeks thread up. Especially given the meek justifications given. Just like I said last week. Rediculous.
Just balancing the ledger a bit, the MK knockers deserve it.
lamaros
17 May 2010, 09:41
Third quarter, left Ryder in the ruck, and played Hille in the forward line. 4 goals and proved to be the match winner.
Oh and I made the thread last week and my number one complaint was that he got the ruck wrong then.
So umm.... yeah... :rolleyes:
Colin D'Cops
17 May 2010, 14:19
Saints played poorly and we played better...
If we can keep this pressure football up throughout the season, expect a few more teams to play poorly and us to get lucky Lamaros.
lamaros
17 May 2010, 14:23
If we can keep this pressure football up throughout the season, expect a few more teams to play poorly and us to get lucky Lamaros.
Not really. If we don't improve our disposal we will get punished.
Saints were up on many important factors against us, inside 50s, scoring shots, possessions blah blah blah. The fact that they haven't sorted out their forward line doesn't mean that other sides will have dysfunction forward lines as well.
If we don't get it right good teams will punish us.
I do recognise that our pressure was excellent. But to have excellent pressure and still only win by a narrow margin against a dysfunction side... we need more than that.
We need to become reliable in our use of the ball, not just our pressure and tackling.
Eleven 38
17 May 2010, 14:27
LOL @ thread....just because of the one last week!
feel a tiny bit sorry for the saints...... window closed!
oh would they love matt maguire, luke ball and andrew lovett right now!!!!
Valve Bounce
17 May 2010, 19:02
I'd disagree here silk. With more scoring shots and possessions than us, St Kilda had the game there to win. They fell down doing the same things we're usually guilty of; too many handballs to players under pressure, then ferocious tackling bringing about a turnover. They also had a lot of 50's awarded against them, and the 2nd half legspeed of Jetta, Atkinson and Davey couldn't be matched.
What I hope Knighter picks up from here was how to arrest the momentum of a couple of opposition goals, and getting the ball out wide to space.
But sure, he's kept the wolves from the door a little longer with this performance
I don't want to be too pedantic, but I felt that St Kilda scored 4 soft goals (a couple assisted by the umpire) which made St Kilda look better than they really were compared to our guys.
The guy sitting next to me was hyperventilating and over revving so bad that his valves were bouncing, and I had to calm him down before he blew a gasket. :p
lemon chicken
29 May 2010, 01:37
Ive been a big knocker but credit where credit's due, he has cracked the zone.
bipolarbeaR
29 May 2010, 02:00
Yeah, I feel terrible, I was calling for his head when we lost to West Coast.
I very rarely doubt the club or the players, so I feel bad lol.
Ive been a big knocker but credit where credit's due, he has cracked the zone.
Yep. Just like Al Clarkson he's copped an enormous amount of **** for taking a different approach.
We are 5 from 6 against the sides with the clusters/rolling zones (St Kilda & Hawthorn). Any side that plays the zone holds no fear for me.
I still worry about Geelong and an in form Dogs because they have a similar style to us. We are closing the gap against that sort of side by being fast enough to takcle them into submission.
Hindsight tells us that it is a generally a good thing when a coach is doing something that everyone else isn't.
The draw has opened for us so hopfully we can attack the rest of the season.
Well done Knights and players.
Lance Uppercut
29 May 2010, 10:34
Ive been a big knocker but credit where credit's due, he has cracked the zone.
mmm it's funny, can still recall how much shit I copped on this board for stating, at least 18 months ago, that Knights was developing a game plan to slice & dice the zone
Towno78
29 May 2010, 10:54
Wonder if all the Knights-haters out there are starting to turn?
The Donners
29 May 2010, 11:20
I'm not a Knights hater... but I've been a Knights basher this year! :(
I'm happy to wear egg on my face if this continues. :thumbsu:
I supported him up until ANZAC Day.
The signs were beyond worrying, and I lost 90% of the faith.
Right now it appears that we've turned the corner, and if this is the case, I'll happily admit that I was no better than some I lambast for jumping on and off bandwagons.
I hope to hell that I can do this. :thumbsu:
Skeeta Olly
29 May 2010, 12:15
I supported him up until ANZAC Day.
The signs were beyond worrying, and I lost 90% of the faith.
Right now it appears that we've turned the corner, and if this is the case, I'll happily admit that I was no better than some I lambast for jumping on and off bandwagons.
I hope to hell that I can do this. :thumbsu:
Same here, although I think I made comment that Knights has something going for him and if the game plan works, we'll be surprised. He's almost, if not there.
I'm still completely bemused as to what the "zone" is tbh.
Lance Uppercut
29 May 2010, 12:18
I'm still completely bemused as to what the "zone" is tbh.
:confused:
Players covering space, instead of players? Upto 18 players in a half of footy in a grid formation, clogging up the space so there's no free players to kick to?
Pfft. Thought it'd be something much more interesting.
Lance Uppercut
29 May 2010, 12:20
Pfft. Thought it'd be something much more interesting.
hahaha involving lasers? :D
Not enough to turn.. but very very very happy with how the boys are playing and the energy! Our disposal looked much cleaner in the last couple of weeks and our running capacity seems to be able to cope as long as we "fist" slow it down for a couple of minutes each quarter.
The bulldogs looked really flat most of the match but IT WAS due to our pressure.. they just panicked all the time because they knew that 2-3 bombers would be hunting them..
Really like the structure and match ups.. loved Pears up the ground and Fletcher on Hall.. even though hall kicked 5.. I think Fletcher broke even in the battle at least...
Also the coaching decision to clearly play "wide" and avoid B Lake most of the game was simply sensational.. clearly the players had been instructed not to kick it high and long near him and it worked really well. Was very very impressed with this.
Lance Uppercut
29 May 2010, 12:26
Not enough to turn.. but very very very happy with how the boys are playing and the energy! Our disposal looked much cleaner in the last couple of weeks and our running capacity seems to be able to cope as long as we "fist" slow it down for a couple of minutes each quarter.
The bulldogs looked really flat most of the match but IT WAS due to our pressure.. they just panicked all the time because they knew that 2-3 bombers would be hunting them..
Really like the structure and match ups.. loved Pears up the ground and Fletcher on Hall.. even though hall kicked 5.. I think Fletcher broke even in the battle at least...
Also the coaching decision to clearly play "wide" and avoid B Lake most of the game was simply sensational.. clearly the players had been instructed not to kick it high and long near him and it worked really well. Was very very impressed with this.
classy stuff rines :thumbsu:
Ben the Gooner
29 May 2010, 12:35
Full credit to Knights, because I'm confident about meeting Hawthorn and St Kilda every time.
Hopefully the bookies don't pick up on this, because $3.something odds are always nice.
you forgot Carlton BTG.. we always get great odds for that certain winner too...
and where did you get 3? I could only get 2.75 at my online site..
Ben the Gooner
29 May 2010, 12:43
you forgot Carlton BTG.. we always get great odds for that certain winner too...
and where did you get 3? I could only get 2.75 at my online site..
I had us under 39.5, so a tad lucky there.
Still have a 100% record in choosing when to bet on us this year.
On the radio (driving to the game), they mentioned that we were $3.40 at one agency yesterday.
lemon chicken
29 May 2010, 12:45
I'm still completely bemused as to what the "zone" is tbh.
Similar to what gets played at 1/2 time in the auskick matches.
Ben the Gooner
29 May 2010, 12:51
^ Heh
On the radio (driving to the game), they mentioned that we were $3.40 at one agency yesterday.
That reminds me, Betfair had us at $3.30 or so. At quarter time.
If my phone hadn't run out of batteries, I would have chucked a bit of dough on us at quarter time, for sure.
i didn't have your faith that we would win.. but I did like us with a 22pt headstart.. $2.60!!
but the best bit was the actual winning.. it feels so good to be actually mixing it with sides and being able to move it the length of the field with precision..
I actually had periods of the game where I didn't feel as though the turnover was "coming right up"... :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
We didn't become favourites until halfway through our 3rd quarter goal spree. We were still close to $3 at H/T
Lance Uppercut
29 May 2010, 13:04
the gameplan, people, the gameplan! :cool:
Ben the Gooner
29 May 2010, 13:05
I'm still completely bemused as to what the "zone" is tbh.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc285/bengooner4/zone.jpg
From a kick in, player where the yellow crosses are, leaving space where the blue circles are.
The idea is to get the kick-in to go to where the blue circles are, then everyone moves across to the side where the ball is, and puts the kicker under huge pressure. Once the ball gets a bit wider, there's often plenty of space behind the man on the mark, and Knighter has us (namely Stanton, Winderlich and Prismall) leading into that space, and gaining 20-30m until we can spot up someone to break from the middle.
Gumby is often leading along the boundary 50 or so metres from the man on the mark.
james_omahoney
29 May 2010, 13:38
Looks like a smiley face.
Ben the Gooner
29 May 2010, 13:41
Looks like a smiley face.
Zone = happy = good:thumbsu:
strategy
29 May 2010, 14:41
The game was won in the first 20 minutes of the 3rd qrt when the Bombers kicked 4 goals, Dogs 0 and the Dogs only had 4 tackles in that time .
The Dogs had approx 75 tackles on them last night , the av is 62 .
Speed also beat then .
A faid out in the last 12 minutes of the last qrt was nearly disastrious .