View Full Version : Aust vs India. What a test match !
I've been glued to this remarkable test match on Foxtel, and it has truly been a unique, and fantastic test match.
1. A hat-trick, by India in Australia's first innings.
2. India taking 7 Australian wickets in a session after the Aussies were cruising at 1-191
3 A wonderful hundred by Steve Waugh, made almost exclusively under intense pressure, while batting with the tail.
4. India made to follow on, but recover to be only 20 runs behind the Aussies at the end of day 3.
5. Incredibly the Indians continue on and bat throughout day 4 without losing a wicket. VVS Laxman makes the highest score in Indian cricket history and is on 275 not out.
6.Massive crowds on every day, in one of the worlds most famous cricketing stadiums.
I wonder what is going to happen on day 5. This may go down as one of the greatest test matches of all time. How many times has a team won after following-on? England did it against Australia at Headingley in 1981, but I don't know if there has been any others.
[This message has been edited by Dan24 (edited 14 March 2001).]
The Dutchman!
15 Mar 2001, 18:07
I'd like to see India declare as soon as Laxman gets his 300 giving them a lead of something like 350 with 2 and 3/4 sessions to play.
Then I want to see our team revert to one day formation... with Gilly opening with Mark Waugh, followed by Warne (slog) Ponting, Hayden, Slater, Steve Waugh and then if we're still going Langer.
We'd have to make 70-80 runs an hour but against the Indian attack I reckon it is do-able. Now THAT would be amazing.
why isn't channel 9 broadcasting it on tv?
WCE2000
15 Mar 2001, 18:30
only twice has a team won after following on. Both of them England following on against Australia.
I dont think India will win, they don't have the guts to make an overnight declartion and they don't have the attack to get Australia out in 5 hours.
I think this will be a close draw. Australia will probably need 350 to win in 5 hours.
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Same Old's
15 Mar 2001, 18:33
Originally posted by Visro:
why isn't channel 9 broadcasting it on tv?
Because Fox Sports won the rights.
In 2 and 3/4 sessions, roughly how many overs would be bowled?
Im trying to get my head round whether or not Australia can get that many runs. In 50 overs they can consistently 230 240 so they would need a few more overs. Any help would be appreciated.
GoEagles
15 Mar 2001, 20:40
Both sides can win this test match, we haven't been able to say that for a long time since Australia has been so dominant for such a long time (16 test matches to be exact.)
For Australia to win:
Play their normal game, If they get too defensive they will lose. If they let the crowd of conditions get to them they will lose. Australia can easily get the runs but as we have seen wickets can fall at a fast rate (note: Singh) - can they get over the line?
For India to win:
What have they to lose? They came from an almost impossible situation where they were saving the test match to now being a very strong chance of beating Australia's 16 run test match win record. All India needs to do when bowling is keep niggling away at Australia, good tight bowling and fielding. Get the home crowd behind them and use that to distract and intimidate them. Bring on Singh when Ponting, Gilchrist and Warne come out to bat.
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If you had your way the game would ave been all over when Steve Waugh faced three balls without scoring. Or Vaxman faced a particularly tight over from Warne leading up to stumps on Day 3 but survived (although he did not score)
Think about all those balls which have been deliberately let through to the keeper, or padded away by the aussies when the pressure was on.
You have no right to wallow in the glory that is test cricket.
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Jod23,
Just to help you out, let's say India leave Australia say 350 to get in 2 1/2 sessions. India will bowl about 24 or 25 overs in that time so Australia would have to score at around 15 runs per over.
Hope that helped.
There is no way in the known world that Steve Waugh is going to muck around with the batting order. All our top order batsman (with the possible exception of Langer) know how to bat aggressively. A high pressure chase of over 350 (at least) on the fifth day of a test match in oppressive conditions against what will propbably revert to defensive fields at the slightest whiff of Aust victory, with a batting lineup that has been chasing balls around for over two days, and is no doubt deflated at seeing a certain victory go begging, is not the time to start experimenting. It doesn't even approach one day conditions.
I don't think we'll even be presented a gettable target. Depending on our state of mind, luck and Ganguly's captaincy, India might even manage to winkle us out in two sessions. That's very unlikely, but it would become more of a possibility if we try to hit boundaries off every ball and find ourselves 3/50.
Langer usually plays the sheet-anchor role, but that's not to say he can't play aggressively and score quickly. I recall one of his centuries was at a run a ball, and he ended up on 122 or something. His Test strike rate is 46.8* (just under 3 runs an over) which is about average, and his one-day strike rate is 89. Tends to be a slow starter, and hit boundaries as he gets going, probably like most batsmen.
*To put this into persepctive, these are other recent batsmen's strike rates, those I could find on Baggy Green :
Ponting 50.5
Hayden 51.5
Gilchrist 76.5
Blewett 41.3
Elliott 44.6
Unavailable - M & S Waugh, Slater
WCE2000
16 Mar 2001, 10:35
Darky:
I'll think if you worked out Langers stirke rate over the last year (since he hit form) would be above 50, closer to 55-60.
His aggresiveness has really picked up over the last year or so
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Absolutely true WCE2000, unfortunately career stats are all that's posted on Baggy Green, and even then we are restricted to players who made their debuts in the early-mid 90s.
The Dutchman!
16 Mar 2001, 20:00
Great win to the Indians - gotta say congratulations on a very courageous win that might yet win them the series. Don't know what the Aussies could have done - sometimes everything goes against (fairly) you.
Can't wait for the 3rd test!