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Minkus_Swan
7 Jun 2003, 00:33
Been listening to it for a couple of days now.
Pretty boring, sounds awful (singing, the snare and the production in general).
No stand out songs - St Anger and Frantic are the songs I could listen to twice without cringing..
NO Metallica sound or solos. I could keep going but I won't.
Generally with Metal releases this year, it's been a good one.
Katatonia's Viva Emptiness is the album of the year. Followed closely by Opeth and Devin Townsend's new one.
What's your Favourite Metal album this year?
Seriously, were you expecting this album to be good? :confused:
You've gotta laugh. Mainstream radio DJs describing the new album as being in the same vein as Master of Puppets and Kill 'Em All (two albums which don't even sound very similar), but of course you won't hear anything from those albums played on the radio.
The covers album and the symphony album showed the band could still play good stuff... but it's becoming obvious they've forgotten how to write it.
St.Anger is not Metallica.
I've only heard the title track off St.Anger and I am not impressed. Sure, any band can put out a shocker, but the title track should have appeared on the last System Of A Down album. Load and Reload were rubbish, but at least they didn't sound like anyone else.
I await hearing the remainder of the album, but I am not expecting much.
Originally posted by Minkus_Swan
Generally with Metal releases this year, it's been a good one.
Katatonia's Viva Emptiness is the album of the year. Followed closely by Opeth and Devin Townsend's new one.
What's your Favourite Metal album this year?
I haven't been flush with money this year, so there haven't been a lot of purchases.
Downloaded the Helloween album "Rabbit Don't Come Easy" and that continues on in the same vein as their last few albums. The recruitment of singer Andi Deris a few albums ago has really breathed new life into the band - producing stuff like they did in their late 80s heyday, but with a more modern and more aggressive sound.
Last year was a fantastic year for metal, with releases from MANOWAR, Arch Enemy, Pegazus, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody, Megadeth...
The_Flying_Egg
7 Jun 2003, 12:31
Originally posted by Darky
Load and Reload were rubbish, but at least they didn't sound like anyone else.
Load wasn't rubbish, it was one of their better albums
Desredandwhite
8 Jun 2003, 19:36
I haven't heard the new one yet - I'm sure I will eventually...
Load is IMHO their strongest release from a songwriting perspective - bear in mind that what I think an ideal song should be may not be what you think an ideal song should be like. Didn't need to rely on a formulaic Kirk Hammett solo or relentless pounding of the pentatonic scale to make a point...
Reload on the other hand... was basically just the rejects from the Load sessions - so unsurprisingly not as strong. Basically I reckon Metallica have drifted across genres since their early releases, and that's why some of the hardcore fans are shouting sellout. They're fans of that specific music, not of the band, if that makes sense.
Originally posted by Desredandwhite
I haven't heard the new one yet - I'm sure I will eventually...
Load is IMHO their strongest release from a songwriting perspective - bear in mind that what I think an ideal song should be may not be what you think an ideal song should be like. Didn't need to rely on a formulaic Kirk Hammett solo or relentless pounding of the pentatonic scale to make a point...
Reload on the other hand... was basically just the rejects from the Load sessions - so unsurprisingly not as strong. Basically I reckon Metallica have drifted across genres since their early releases, and that's why some of the hardcore fans are shouting sellout. They're fans of that specific music, not of the band, if that makes sense.
Agreed to an extent... also, fans who have got into Metallica because of hearing the recent albums, may not like the earlier albums as much because there is a huge difference between, say, Kill 'Em All and Load.
Having grown up listening to Metallica since the late 80s, I've seen them evolve and I personally don't like the direction they're going in. Load and Reload have a few decent songs (not many, IMHO), and the black album was a great HARD ROCK album. I don't approve of radio announcers making comparisons back to the good old days though - either they are reading off terribly inaccurate promo information, or are ad-libbing with pure ignorance.
For the record, I think ...Justice is their best collection of songs, although the sound is awful.
Originally posted by Desredandwhite
Basically I reckon Metallica have drifted across genres since their early releases, and that's why some of the hardcore fans are shouting sellout. They're fans of that specific music, not of the band, if that makes sense.
Yes I agree with that.
A lot of fans want to hear another Masters of Puppetts or another Ride the Lightning but that was years ago and the band have moved on. Actually those 2 albums sound similar and Load and Reload are similar but the rest a quiet different. And Justice For All and The Black Album are nothing alike.
Haven't heard the new album yet but heard the Single and I reckon it sounds pretty good. Maybe it's not typical Metalica but what is typical Metalica?
I'll have to buy the new album and see for myself if it's any good but just because their music is always changing doesn't mean it isn't any good.
It just means they aren't AC/DC. :)
oh_my_hat
8 Jun 2003, 21:37
I haven't heard the CD yet but most opinions I have read have been very negative (somewhat of an understatement). Here are a few samples..... http://www.blacklabelsociety.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=004604
Originally posted by oh_my_hat
I haven't heard the CD yet but most opinions I have read have been very negative (somewhat of an understatement). Here are a few samples..... http://www.blacklabelsociety.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=004604
Quote from that board :
metallica could probably put out a porno dvd of lars f ucking your mother and you would come on here and say its the best thing ever made.
:D :D :D
SydneyBomber
9 Jun 2003, 14:24
I won't be buying it.
I won't be listening to it.
I won't be reading about it.
My **** has more metal in it than Metallica these days (and no I haven't got a prince albert).
AJFA is the last thing they did worth anything.
it's a piece of crap.
matallica died after they released the black album.
daicos4ever
10 Jun 2003, 14:14
I don't even want to touch it after what I've heard.
NorthBhoy
10 Jun 2003, 20:26
Meh.
Pretty damn ordinary.
After hearing they were going somewhere near the 9 minute long, pretty hard sound, I was optimistic. I have only given 2 listens, but the only way I can describe it is completely ordinary.
Not in a musical sense, but literally ordinary.
The bloke standing in the studio wearing the SOAD T-shirt on the DVD kind of gives it away.
Savatage
11 Jun 2003, 13:06
If my drums sounded like that, I would **** on them.
Originally posted by noodle
it's a piece of crap.
matallica died after they released the black album.
Metallica died after Cliff died.
Justice was merely a tribute album to the Great One.
Savatage
11 Jun 2003, 14:10
Amen.
CowboyFromHell
13 Jun 2003, 00:39
I got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it. Can sit there and bang my head to it, so I'm satisified.
Listen to the album with an open mind. I thought Metallica were over and done with, but this is there best album in a very long time. Sounds nothing like their last 3, and that's a good thing.
I don't like it.
It all sounds the same, and it seems like they are trying to pull off a nu-metal sound.
It's too one dimensional.
NorthBhoy
13 Jun 2003, 15:10
No good IMO.
Listened to it 4 times now. It is everywhere and nowhere all at the same time. I don't think bands have to be going anywhere in an albulm, style or otherwise, but this is an utter mish mash of, well, sh1t.
Pretty sad actually. For no reason at all I had a slight hope we would get a MOP or Justice clone, which would have been great. The only thing it has over Load is a p1ssed off attitude, but they aint tough anymore.
Surely that is it, but if they came out here I would go again.
gPhonque
14 Jun 2003, 13:41
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
but they aint tough anymore.
Metallica were tough?
Ooh I'd better watch out....Lars is going to kick my arse.......in his pink spandex shorts...... :eek:
Savatage
19 Jun 2003, 17:09
The day Metallica try to sound like Linkin Park is the day they should retire.
Retire.
A mate brought it over the other night. I had to watchthe dvd as it were so boring I fell asleep otherwise.
All the tracks sound the same. Only the title track I could handle. The rest was terrible, nu metalish ****. Once anyone has more than 4 strings on a bass you know it's going to be a wa-nk.
And Load and Re-Load were ****.