View Full Version : Those ****ing guernseys - I can't stand it
I know this is a big issue on the main board, so that's why I'm posting it here.
Watching this afternoon's game against Melbourne I just can't get past the ugly clash of colours. Both teams have predominantly navy blue jumpers with a bit of red (and a bit of gold in our case). It's just disgraceful and it ruins the game for me as a spectator. It's clearly a problem for the players on the field too. There have been some poor kicks and handpasses to opponents, and players taking more time to time to identify a teammate. This was no more evident than Travis Johnstone's perfectly delivered kick out to Edwards.
I'm not laying blame on Melbourne here - although it would be nice if they as the away team would alter their guernsey. It's clearly the fault of the AFL, and their laziness on addressing this issue. Plus we're just as bad as anyone else on this issue - last year we wore our away guernsey with the red yoke against Melbourne, that only made things worse!
So I'm calling on the Adelaide Football Club to introduce a predominantly yellow guernsey for such matches. I don't care if we're the home team - the Eagles changed from their regular home guernsey against Richmond and Port did the same thing against Collingwood last year. I want to see a mostly yellow guernsey with say, one blue ring and one red ring. It should be worn for all clashes against teams with predominantly black/navy blue guernseys.
Adelaide Football Club, let's lead the way (or follow St Kilda's lead) on the alternate guernsey issue!
footballphantom
15 Jun 2003, 17:44
I know I am butting in but I agree.
Thought that I would watch the game as I am all alone today. I turned it off. I do not know the players that well and I could not really tell the teams apart.
The sooner the AFL has some guts and tackles the issue the better.
Still Crowing
15 Jun 2003, 17:50
Hear hear!!!....I've seen Stealth Bomber's version of that Gold guernsey.....it looks great, and is a true 'away' top in all respects.
Is it possible to get in touch with the club, and see how far we can push this?
Cheers,
Kasey
Hear hear (not that I saw the game).
What makes it even worse is that our current "away" strip is even closer to Melbourne's guernsey, with the big splashes of red across the shoulders. I remember a H+A game at the MCG about 3-4 years ago when I squinted into the sun trying to tell 35 teammmates apart. At least Nigel Smart stood out.
Thought the same think. The red really clashes at times. Just give us a light and dark alternative and bugger off to the stuck up clubs that are too precious ro change.
Kane McGoodwin
15 Jun 2003, 20:07
The Crows should have 2 away strips - one predominantly yellow & another mainly red - depending on which team we are playing. However, it should be the opposition changing strips when we play at home.
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
The Crows should have 2 away strips - one predominantly yellow & another mainly red - depending on which team we are playing. However, it should be the opposition changing strips when we play at home.
The AFC should bring back the Ansett Cup jumpers from 1996 as our away jumpers. They would be perfect. They are a far superior jumper design to our current away strip.
The 1996 Ansett Cup jumpers featured a blue crow in the middle of the jumper, with the top half of the jumper yellow and the bottom half red. This jumper should avoid clashes in away games with Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon, St Kilda, Sydney etc.
We should bring back that jumper and have another version of this design with the red in the top half and the yellow in the bottom half to avoid clashes with West Coast, Richmond and Hawthorn.
I agree that the opposition should have a different strip for our home games.
Jerome
Stiffy_18
15 Jun 2003, 21:11
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
The Crows should have 2 away strips - one predominantly yellow & another mainly red - depending on which team we are playing. However, it should be the opposition changing strips when we play at home. I agree 100% with this Kane. Todays game was a disgrace for a spectator. As you said we should have 2 away guernseys one mainly yellow and the other one mainly red so we avoid clashes. Even last week against hawthorn there was a bit of confusion with our yellow numbers but not as bad as today.
Kane McGoodwin
15 Jun 2003, 21:19
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Todays game was a disgrace for a spectator.
I wonder if Travis Johnstone will use this as his excuse for the fantastic pass to Edwards. ;)
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I wonder if Travis Johnstone will use this as his excuse for the fantastic pass to Edwards. ;) I thought that at the time, as it was such a pin-point pass. I reckon it happened a few other times during the day, but obviously none were as damaging as that kick.
Stiffy_18
15 Jun 2003, 21:45
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I wonder if Travis Johnstone will use this as his excuse for the fantastic pass to Edwards. ;) He might as well because it was very hard to tell them apart.
On a different note, didn't we get a good ride from the umpires today. I guess that letter to the AFL did have some effect. We trashed Demons but was the umpiring pathetic or what. If I was a Melbourne supporter I would be p*ssed off BIG TIME
macca23
16 Jun 2003, 00:04
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
On a different note, didn't we get a good ride from the umpires today. I guess that letter to the AFL did have some effect. We trashed Demons but was the umpiring pathetic or what. If I was a Melbourne supporter I would be p*ssed off BIG TIME
The white maggots were embarrassing. The last thing I want is charity, and we got plenty of it today. I know we've had a rotten deal in the last 2 games, but that doesn't justify the soft frees we got today!!
Is it that hard to umpire fairly??
Stiffy_18
16 Jun 2003, 00:09
Originally posted by macca23
The white maggots were embarrassing. The last thing I want is charity, and we got plenty of it today. I know we've had a rotten deal in the last 2 games, but that doesn't justify the soft frees we got today!! That really was a disgrace. I don't think it had a major influence on the end result but fair dinkum that was shocking:rolleyes:
Is it that hard to umpire fairly?? Apparently it is:(
Nige_Bix
16 Jun 2003, 00:10
Originally posted by Jerome
The 1996 Ansett Cup jumpers featured a blue crow in the middle of the jumper, with the top half of the jumper yellow and the bottom half red. This jumper should avoid clashes in away games with Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon, St Kilda, Sydney etc.
We should bring back that jumper and have another version of this design with the red in the top half and the yellow in the bottom half to avoid clashes with West Coast, Richmond and Hawthorn.
I cant recall that jumper - any pics of it anywhere on the 'net?
Originally posted by Jerome
I agree that the opposition should have a different strip for our home games.
I agree - the onus should be on the oppostion to wear an alternative contrasting strip that is organised and approved by the AFL.
[oh and Eddie McGuire too!]
I don't see why it's such a big deal to have home and away jerseys (or guernseys, as you guys call them). To me that's one of the only annoying things about football is the dogmatic - almost fanatical - adherance to tradition... even when it flies in the face of common sense.
All American sports have both home and away jerseys. It's not a big deal. I don't know why clubs like Collingwood make such a big thing out of it. That's just plain stupid.
As for the color of the away jerseys, you need to make those a standard color that no other team is going to have, like white. It is no use switching the Crows away uniform to yellow when we have to play Hawthorn at some point in the year. The AFL should just mandate that all away sides wear white. Period. That solution is simple and guess what? IT WORKS!
Anyway, good luck to the Crows. May the break do wonders for our injury list.
You know, I must be the only one in Australia that didn't have a problem with the jumpers yesterday.....maybe I have really good eyesight....or really good seats?? :p
Jars458
16 Jun 2003, 12:05
Originally posted by ant
You know, I must be the only one in Australia that didn't have a problem with the jumpers yesterday.....maybe I have really good eyesight....or really good seats?? :p
Or were you in the bar all game??:D
The only problem with a yellow based jumper is that it is not a strong colour.
I know this is a bit silly, but the old Ansett Cup jumped made us look thin and week and does not help in the pyscology stakes
*waits for abuse*:)
Blues_Girl
16 Jun 2003, 14:30
Originally posted by ant
You know, I must be the only one in Australia that didn't have a problem with the jumpers yesterday.....maybe I have really good eyesight....or really good seats?? :p
Nope your not! I had no problem with the jumpers yesterday. I sit right on the back row, so I must have excellent eye sight!
Originally posted by Jars458
Or were you in the bar all game??:D
Ha, if only.
Can you believe they don't let us drink on the job?!? It's absolute agony!
Stiffy_18
16 Jun 2003, 21:35
Originally posted by lacrow
As for the color of the away jerseys, you need to make those a standard color that no other team is going to have, like white. It is no use switching the Crows away uniform to yellow when we have to play Hawthorn at some point in the year. The AFL should just mandate that all away sides wear white. Period. That solution is simple and guess what? IT WORKS! I think we should stick to our traditional colours. I cannot see anything wrong with having 2 away jumpers (yellow and red). When yuo play Hawks wear a red one, when you play Swans wear a yellow one. We still keep our traditional colours and there is no clashes;) White would work but its not our traditional colour.
MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
16 Jun 2003, 22:34
Originally posted by Blues_Girl
Nope your not! I had no problem with the jumpers yesterday. I sit right on the back row, so I must have excellent eye sight!
Me too. I have no problems. But then.......... I know all my boys by head, shoulders, bum & legs so really they could be head first under a pack and I still know which angel is getting the ball! :D :D
k
xx
Blues_Girl
16 Jun 2003, 22:37
Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
Me too. I have no problems. But then.......... I know all my boys by head, shoulders, bum & legs so really they could be head first under a pack and I still know which angel is getting the ball! :D :D
k
xx
Well that too!!!
Yesterday the ball was up the nothern end and everyone was shouting for who they thought marked it! One shouted Perrie, another Riccuto and then you hear this female voice yell "KEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNY".
Yet again I was right :D
Originally posted by lacrow
I don't see why it's such a big deal to have home and away jerseys (or guernseys, as you guys call them). To me that's one of the only annoying things about football is the dogmatic - almost fanatical - adherance to tradition... even when it flies in the face of common sense.
All American sports have both home and away jerseys. It's not a big deal. I don't know why clubs like Collingwood make such a big thing out of it. That's just plain stupid.
I couldn't agree more. It embarrases me as an Australian that so many Aussie rules followers take such a backwards view of this issue, when the rest of the world took the common sense approach long ago. I am sure once it becomes the status quo no one will bat an eyelid. Some people are just resistent to change.
As for the color of the away jerseys, you need to make those a standard color that no other team is going to have, like white. It is no use switching the Crows away uniform to yellow when we have to play Hawthorn at some point in the year. The AFL should just mandate that all away sides wear white. Period. That solution is simple and guess what? IT WORKS!
Anyway, good luck to the Crows. May the break do wonders for our injury list.
I agree with most of that. Ideally we should move towards dark home guernseys and light away guernseys. For the time being however it will be just a matter of the away side using what doesn't clash with the home side's guernsey. Against most teams we could wear yellow but against Hawthorn we'd wear blue or red. I don't think white is the perfect solution with teams like North Melbourne, Geelong, Sydney having an abundance of white in their normal guernseys.
crowsfan
17 Jun 2003, 00:35
Hrm. I personally didn't think there was a clash at the time, but in retrospect, maybe it could be confusing for some.
lacrow makes sense though. Though tradition is nice to keep, the game has changed quite considerably since the traditional times, so why not uniforms? I am all for different away strips and such.
Having a different away strip does not take any tradition a club has, nor does it change the club's history or tradtion. Is the concensus of these 'traditionalists' so superficial as to base a club on its colours of its uniform???
If we had to change our away strip, I suggest adopting a colour that no other club has (obviously and logically). Perhaps predominantly dark grey or dark green with a relatively small navy, red and yellow coloured crow somewhere on the front? Just a thought.
macca23
17 Jun 2003, 00:58
It's pretty simple really and very good for the marketing department.
Two away guernseys, with the use dictated by whether the opposition has red as a basic part of it's colours.
Against the "red" teams i.e.
Brisbane
Bulldogs
Essendon
Fremantle
Melbourne
St Kilda
Sydney
we wear a predominantly yellow guernsey, with a navy and red Crows logo on the front and navy numbers on the back.
Against the non-red teams i.e.
Carlton
Collingwood
Geelong
Hawthorn
Kangaroos
Port Adelaide
Richmond
West Coast
we wear a predominantly red guernsey, with a navy and yellow Crows logo on the front and yellow or navy numbers on the back.
Eliminates all away guernsey clashes and makes a fortune for the marketing department.
Mr Eagle
17 Jun 2003, 01:36
Or you could just wear your home jumper if your one away jumper clashes...the choices are endless ;)
Macca 23's suggestion sounds like a workable one to me. However, you might have some extra confusion brought on by all the different uniforms.
Imagine the consequences of having 2 away jerseys for each of 16 teams in the AFL. Every time you turn on the TV you'll be seeing a different set of uniforms (depending on who you're watching). You'll need a form guide just to tell who's playing. :)
Who knows whether that'll be another problem or not, though I can envisage other angry posts on this site by people saying they can't tell who the teams are anymore. I still stick by my earlier assessment that some neutral color (doesn't necessarily have to be white) would be the most simple solution.
Then you could dress the umpires in pink, like they should be. :)