Thumped by Geelong, not as bad as it seems.

[KaaN10]

Sure we lost to Geelong but we are still a work in progress and we played the best side in the comp. Losing by that much was bad but lets be honest beating Geelong wasn't something most of us expected.

Realistically I didn't expect a win but as usual we showed we can match the best for a quarter or two which are good signs.

I'm certain we will make the finals. We have much easier games from now on after a much harder first half.

Round 13 - Hawthorn - 50/50
Round 14 - Adelaide - Win
Round 15 - Melbourne - Win
Round 16 - West Coast - Win
Round 17 - North Melb - Win
Round 18 - St Kilda - 50/50
Round 19 - Carlton - 50/50
Round 20 - Collingwood - Loss
Round 21 - Brisbane - 50/50
Round 22 - Western Bulldogs - 50/50

Realistically I think that's about right. I'm expecting us to finish 7th or 8th with 11/12 wins.

The faster we move on, the better.

[JD11]

I think we'll probably sneak in but that last month of the h + a season will take it out of us.

[tarky]

Don't know why you're marking the pies game as a loss already, they're not THAT good. Your guys will be out to make up the disappointment of anzac day. It's a 50/50 game surely

edit : lock in a win against the hawks next week too, they've gotten their false confidence up after a few wins against ordinary sides and it'll come crashing back down to earth on friday

[BomberTime]

Optimistic.. we never beat north, we are not a good travelling game (adelaide) and hawthorn will really want to pump us next week.

[JD11]

Optimistic.. we never beat north, we are not a good travelling game (adelaide) and hawthorn will really want to pump us next week.
We'll be dam hungry and they'll be feeling cocky.

[KaaN10]

Optimistic.. we never beat north, we are not a good travelling game (adelaide) and hawthorn will really want to pump us next week.

North - Round 1 2008, we can and should beat em if we don't underestimate em.
Adelaide - Sure we aren't a great traveling team but we aren't that bad. Almost beat Sydney this year, beat em last year and almost beat Adelaide at AAMI(in the h&a :p)
Hawthorn - When don't they wanna pump us? Same with Carlton.

[bipolarbeaR]

That's the best thing, Hawthorn will once again undermine us, then we will destroy them, as they're a soft bunch of pretenders, I used to have respect them but their ****headded supporters have driven me the point of having none.

[BomberTime]

North - Round 1 2008, we can and should beat em if we don't underestimate em.
Adelaide - Sure we aren't a great traveling team but we aren't that bad. Almost beat Sydney this year, beat em last year and almost beat Adelaide at AAMI(in the h&a :p)
Hawthorn - When don't they wanna pump us? Same with Carlton.

Hey..i hope your right. I just think we shouldnt look to much further than hawthorn as we were so bad last night.

[The_Young_Gun]

Slattery, Gumbleton and Lonergan should all be hoping not to be dropped next week.

Picking slatts to play this week proved we were taking a step backwards with our attacking gameplan, and therefore dropping Atkinson... At first I thought slatts could've made a difference by at least shutting one of the forwards down, but again he proved me wrong.
Gumbleton has kind of been on notice for mine, didn't put in enough effort tonight for him to deserve a spot next fortnight, too flat footed and didn't apply enough legitimate leads, he'll likely stay in the side but a guy like Neagle with a good performance in the VFL tomorrow could push Gumbles out of the side..
Lonergan just isn't good enough to be in our 22, FULLSTOP!

Only upside for tonight was Bellchambers, did some very nice things around the ground, didn't seem too confident, yet he showed a decent improvement to his game comparing to his last few appearances.
I thought going in tonight we were a chance to bring it to the Cats, but I was wrong in thinking making all those changes would have made a bigger difference.. Should have left the side as it was, with the acception of Fletch, Stanton and Bellchambers.

Knights should now learn that bringing in guys who've been injured for more than 3 weeks, when playing against the best team in the comp, is a big NO NO!

[Noddy Holder]

We've been a work in progress for five years apparently.

[Son of Whispy]

Sure it might not be as bad as it seems, but I just hope it doesn't dent our confidence. They are a great team and class and strength won them the game tonight.
Watching hawthorn today, they were good for 30 minutes today and that was all. Adelaide were very ordinary, and Hawthorn were'nt much better.
As for Gumby getting dropped, please give me a spell. Delivery wasn't great, but he's the future with Hurley up front and must be perservered with. Would you rather Neagle???
As with tonight, can anyone answer me why was Atkinson & Howlett dropped over Slattery and Dyson? Still scratching my head over it.

[theboxmike]

We have no heart, FFS i know i'm a little bit tipsy but **** me i watched that game and we looked completely out of our depth. Something needs to change.

[The_Young_Gun]

Sure it might not be as bad as it seems, but I just hope it doesn't dent our confidence. They are a great team and class and strength won them the game tonight.
Watching hawthorn today, they were good for 30 minutes today and that was all. Adelaide were very ordinary, and Hawthorn were'nt much better.
As for Gumby getting dropped, please give me a spell. Delivery wasn't great, but he's the future with Hurley up front and must be perservered with. Would you rather Neagle???
As with tonight, can anyone answer me why was Atkinson & Howlett dropped over Slattery and Dyson? Still scratching my head over it.

It was nothing about delivery.. Gumbleton was flat footed on way too many occasions.. Instead of providing a lead he waved his hand to kick it on top of his head instead.. It was laziness and lack of confidence by Gumby..

And just saying Gumby is "the future" doesn't mean its a certain necessity that he plays every game, there's no point in playing someone who's out of form and is diving into a slump... If we were talking about a number 72 pick here there'd be no discussion at all.

Putting Gumby back in the two's can't do any bad to him at all.. he can gain confidence again and be even more hungy to play in the 1st's side the next week.. It also gives, yes!, Neagle (Or another tall) a shot at trying to prove his worth again in the AFL.

Neagle put in a big effort today in the VFL so I really believe we should consider putting him in the mix to play against the hawks.

[Bloodstained Bomber]

It was laziness and lack of confidence by Gumby..

Neagle put in a big effort today in the VFL so I really believe we should consider putting him in the mix to play against the hawks.

I highlighted just these 2 things to show that you have no idea at all, none.

One thing Gumby is not, is lazy.

Neagle did absolutely nothing today, not to mention he was hobbling later in the game.

[The_Young_Gun]

I highlighted just these 2 things to show that you have no idea at all, none.

One thing Gumby is not, is lazy.

Neagle did absolutely nothing today, not to mention he was hobbling later in the game.

So your saying Gumbleton puts in a 100% effort in every single game does he??

And Neagle literally did NOTHING today??

Are facts such as, "On many occasions, standing flat footed, providing bad leads, kicking 0 goals" not enough evidence to tell you that Gumbleton was at least at one point lazy and lacking confidence last night.. And does Neagle today "kicking 2 goals, laying tackles, running hard and playing well in a game where kicking inside 50 was atrocious" tell you that he put in a decent effort..

Please! try and grow a brain and stop being so damn bios and generalizing about our players.

[JD11]

So your saying Gumbleton puts in a 100% effort in every single game does he??

And Neagle literally did NOTHING today??

Are facts such as, "On many occasions, standing flat footed, providing bad leads, kicking 0 goals" not enough evidence to tell you that Gumbleton was at least at one point lazy and lacking confidence last night.. And does Neagle today "kicking 2 goals, laying tackles, running hard and playing well in a game where kicking inside 50 was atrocious" tell you that he put in a decent effort..

Please! try and grow a brain and stop being so damn bios and generalizing about our players.
I haven't seen the game, but I have read 3 reports perhaps you should at least do the same before talking about the match.

[Bloodstained Bomber]

So your saying Gumbleton puts in a 100% effort in every single game does he??

And Neagle literally did NOTHING today??

Are facts such as, "On many occasions, standing flat footed, providing bad leads, kicking 0 goals" not enough evidence to tell you that Gumbleton was at least at one point lazy and lacking confidence last night.. And does Neagle today "kicking 2 goals, laying tackles, running hard and playing well in a game where kicking inside 50 was atrocious" tell you that he put in a decent effort..

Please! try and grow a brain and stop being so damn bios and generalizing about our players.

It's a bit hard to lead up when your forward 50 is filled with the oppositions clubs players due to us moving the ball slowly. Fact is that Gumby is not lazy.

However your favourite that you suggested to come in this week is.

He is overweight, lazy, disinterested and has spent all of the year at Bendigo and done nothing. I went yesterday, you obviously didn't.

Please! try and grow a brain and stop being so damn bios and generalizing about our players.

Nothing wrong with my bios and i actually updated it last week and it would be a good idea if you took your own advice.

You are clueless.

[Macca18]

We never win the games we should win. This has been a trend that has now been going on for several years.

For this club at the moment there is no 'certain win'.

It would not surprise me the slighest if we end up dropping games to the inept likes of Adelaide, Melbourne and North Melbourne yet snag wins against Carlton, St Kilda & Collingwood.

[james_omahoney]

Nothing wrong with my bios and i actually updated it last week and it would be a good idea if you took your own advice.


lol :D

[The_Young_Gun]

Nothing wrong with my bios and i actually updated it last week and it would be a good idea if you took your own advice.


:thumbsu: Yeh I like humor.

To be honest I didn't think much of Neagle all season either.. I thought he was a fat underachieving ******** up until I watched him yesterday.

Comparing to the last few appearances he's had since last year and what I've heard and watched in the VFL, he surprised me by his effort. A year ago he would have never tried to chase someone down from 15 meters away and would've just been typically lazy. Yesterday I saw him try on many occasions to run someone down and instead of sinking his feet permanently into our forward 50, to actually put the effort into following his opponent. Yes he wasn't a star by no means but what caught my eye was his change in attitude. He lacked a sense of effort and hunger all throughout his career but showed at least the tiniest bit yesterday, enough to convince me that he may as well at least be on his way to getting selected.

Sorry for trying to be a little optimistic about the guy but alot of people have totally given up on him.. Gumbleton on the other hand I believe wasn't totally up to it on Saturday. In the second half when we needed someone to lead up and provide a decent option at half forward, he would stand and wave the ball to come in high, forcing the mid's to kick to a pack. Instead of trying to share the load with Hurley, he stood back on too many occasions, very un-gumbleton like.. He was no star either on Saturday night but getting to my point, other than Hurley and Gumby we shouldn't have to stop looking for more talent up forward, if we can have the luxury of propping Hurley down back and placing another talent up forward then that'd be awesome.. We'd probably win more games.