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RICE80SF
24 Oct 2000, 07:06
Hi guys sorry to barge in un-invited, but can I ask if any of you saw much of Milne last season? He was on our Sup. list now he's on yours.
I was surprised that not only the Dons didn't draft him but no other club either last year. He played very well '99 in the reserves and starred in the reserves premiership, along with Rama and J. Johnson (look what happened to them). Did any of you Saints fans see him or was he injured?
I believe he'd compliment most forward lines (small forward) and could be a second string midfielder too. Just hope someone takes him onto their senior list this Sunday because he deserves a shot at the big time.
Cheers.
Thanks in advance.
StrengthThroughLoyalty
24 Oct 2000, 07:41
Saw a fair bit of Milne last year in the ressies. He had a great year and is a chance to be drafted this year, at the very least retained on the supp list. He has great goal sense and kicked a few bags of 5+ last year.
His most spectacular effort last year was a non goal. A saints player had a shot on the run from about 40 meters. As the ball was heading through the middle of the goals Milne, who had broken free of his man, tried a scissor volley kick. The ball subsequently landed 25 meters in the forward pocket. Every one in the crowd was pissing themselves.
We have two late picks in the draft at 84 and 85, I believe Milne should be taken with one of these picks.
sainter
24 Oct 2000, 08:06
Rice,
According to the saints website, he along with Mark Wittison have been retained on our rookie list for another year.
A lot of us remember the 1999 Reserves GF when he killed us.
Surprisingly, we picked him at no 22 in the rookie draft which is very low considering 100 players were already chosen in the national draft before him.
Your exactly right about him. He was one of our better players all year, kicked quite a few goals in the forward pocket and started playing in the midfield later in the year. Has a future
STL,
Because Milne is in our rookie list, we do not need to take him in the draft. If we wanted him on the senior list, we would just have to promote him like we did with Chad Davis at the end of 1999.
There is a guy on the supp list who we should select in the draft. I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif
I love that story about the scissor kick effort in the goal square. I heard he was dragged in a matter of seconds. Wish I saw it!
walshy1993
24 Oct 2000, 08:09
rice he also kicked 7 or 8 goals over in london last year for essendon which adds to the supprise of ess not picking him up
RICE80SF
24 Oct 2000, 08:29
Thanks for the responces guys. Forgot about that London game Walshy, he starred didn't he.
So can any club pick him in the draft if they want him for their senior list, I still can't work out the Sup. list? Otherwise he'll have to rely on a long term injury before he gets a chance of a call up. I hope for him the statement on the website is a smokescreen for opposition clubs Sainter.
Cheers.
[This message has been edited by RICE80SF (edited 23 October 2000).]
Savatage
24 Oct 2000, 15:03
Milne is an absolute sensation and kicked about 50 goals in the VFL this year which in itself was amazing considering the coach only played him for 5 minutes for the first 5 or so games.
He kicked some big bags & killed some good players, I too was amazed Sheeds didn't decide to rookie list him at very least.
He has been retained on the St.Kilda senior list & if he can bulk up over summer then I suggest he will be ready to play some senior football in 2001.
Savatage
24 Oct 2000, 15:06
Oh and Sainter, I definitely know the player you are talking about.....I haven't shut up about him all year.
Here's hoping some magic comes our way on Sunday :-)
sainter
24 Oct 2000, 18:26
Rice,
The rookie list can be made up of a maximum of 4 players. They have to be under the age of 23 and are selected in the "rookie draft" which immediately follows the pre-season draft in December. I think they are paid half the minimum rate of an AFL player. They can added to the list at the expense of a player added to the long-term injury list or someone that is delisted.
The supplementary list is made up of top-up players. Because the lists were 42 and now 38, there are not enough players to form a reserves side after players are selected for the senior team. These players can play all season for their selected team in the reserves but have no affiliation with the team and can be drafted by anyone in the national draft.
Milne is on our rookie list and we have the option of promoting him to the senior list, retaining him as a rookie or delisting him. We chose the middle option.
On the other hand, there is a guy on our supplementary list who many of us saints fans have a high opinion of and we are praying that another club doesn't jump in and grab him before us.
Sorry for harping on a little bit but if you were interested in an explanation, you got one. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif
By the way, your welcome in our rooms. Not as fun as the bomber and roos boards. I haven't left a message but have had a good laugh. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Savatage,
We will have to start the ______ ____ fan club if he gets drafted.
Got to be worth a late draft pick!
http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
RICE80SF
25 Oct 2000, 03:22
Thanks again guys, I had been meaning to follow his progress last year but forgot all about him. Milne caused a big fuss on the Bomber forum (RIP) end of last season, many saw him as a future champ.
Sainter thanks for the invitation, hope you had a chance to grab a Grange "roady" on your way out of Windy Hill http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif .
You can tell me the name of this super star on the sup. list, I'll just keep it to myself http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif .
Cheers guys.
karnaby
30 Oct 2000, 08:51
sainter & Savatage
Could you please confirm that Daniel Wulf (?sp) is the player that you were both alluding to above?
If so, it's a feather in the cap of the football dept to sneak him thru, well done guys.
Savatage
30 Oct 2000, 09:11
I can confirm that for you there mate http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
I am over the moon for Daniel & he would be over the moon too!!!!!
Kildonan
6 Jun 2010, 18:11
I thought this thread was topical, considering next week is Stephen Milne's 200th match for our club. Clearly the Essendon supporter, RICE80SF, saw enough in Milne to enquire about him after we "Rookied" him. He probably has a better eye for talent than many of the recruiters who overlooked Milne.
And thank goodness they did. :D :cool:
Squizzy1970
6 Jun 2010, 18:24
Sorry - I got distracted with the Wulf-man reference!!! Good athlete, but still can't forgive him hitting the post from 2m out (leaving us with a draw against the Swans in a miserable year for the club).
But sounds as though Milney's soccer volley was even better. Don't think he saw eye to eye with the Marshmallow man, who had his favourites.
LordJimmy
6 Jun 2010, 19:23
Great thread. Also shows that insight will always outweigh having first pick - good players can be found with any pick in a draft.
The only thing this thread tells us is that I have been posting on Big Footy for far too long!
Actually it was going pretty well until our mutual Daniel Wulf lovefest started! :D
Savatage and I went to all of our VFL games in 2000. We had a standalone team that season and it was great watching a St Kilda team in the VFL. Milne and Wulf were our two standouts. Milney was on our rookie list (after his 3 goal performance in the 1999 reserves Grand Final for Essendon against St Kilda!) and Wulf was on the supplementary list. Not surprisingly Wulf was drafted on the back of his excellent season but didn't really go on with it while Milne was elevated to the senior list.
That's what I love about Milney. Nothing came easy for him and he's had to fight to get to where he is today. He firstly had to overcome the disappointment of not getting drafted. Essendon gave him a lifeline by putting him on their supplementary list (which basically meant he was a reserves player with no option of getting upgraded to the senior list). At the end of the season we picked him up with a second round pick in the rookie draft and he played the entire season in the St Kilda VFL side coached by Peter Banfield. Finally, at the end of 2000, he was rewarded with a promotion to the senior list.
And next week, he plays his 200th game.
Legend. :thumbsu:
ChrisFooty
6 Jun 2010, 22:09
This thread was a great read. Good effort to have dug that one up from the old dusty archives of BigFooty. :thumbsu:
Plugger35
6 Jun 2010, 22:20
Daniel Wulf, wasn't he the guy that hit the post from close range when we had that draw against Sydney back in 2002 in one of the worst games of all time?
I think a young Riewoldt was about the only highlight. Even back then his talent stood out.
mailman4
6 Jun 2010, 22:40
Daniel Wulf, wasn't he the guy that hit the post from close range when we had that draw against Sydney back in 2002 in one of the worst games of all time?
I think a young Riewoldt was about the only highlight. Even back then his talent stood out.
I remember that game, it was dal's first real big game aswell...well first game i noticed him. Remember he had a torpe from 65 to try and steal the game after the siren and fell short by a about 3, shattered!
Daniel Wulf, wasn't he the guy that hit the post from close range when we had that draw against Sydney back in 2002 in one of the worst games of all time?
The one and only.
Last I heard he was playing in the WAFL.
Is he still over there?
SammyFish25
6 Jun 2010, 22:47
Im not to sure Sainter, but I did find out, that Rossie Tungatalum is playing for South Freo
http://www.waflonline.com.au/clubplayerload.php?playerID=13838&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=800
Plugger35
6 Jun 2010, 22:50
The one and only.
Last I heard he was playing in the WAFL.
Is he still over there?
Not sure, I don't really follow the WAFL much these days.
I know Michael Rix was over here playing for my club Subiaco.
The WAFL seems to be a popular destination for delisted AFL footballers these days.
Im not to sure Sainter, but I did find out, that Rossie Tungatalum is playing for South Freo
http://www.waflonline.com.au/clubplayerload.php?playerID=13838&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=800 (http://www.waflonline.com.au/clubplayerload.php?playerID=13838&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=800[/quote)
Wow, that's interesting.
I wrongly assumed that he'd returned to St Mary's.
He'd be one to keep an eye on if he goes alright and puts on a bit of a weight.
Not sure, I don't really follow the WAFL much these days.
I know Michael Rix was over here playing for my club Subiaco.
The WAFL seems to be a popular destination for delisted AFL footballers these days.
He'd go alright in the WAFL wouldn't he?
Matt Ferguson was another who was playing over there. I'm not sure if he's returned to Melbourne but I did see him at the intra-club game earlier in the year.
SammyFish25
6 Jun 2010, 23:03
Chris Oliver (pretty sure the one we had listed at one stage) is playing in the WAFL two
Oh the memories of me yelling at him in my early days :o
Plugger35
6 Jun 2010, 23:16
He'd go alright in the WAFL wouldn't he?
Matt Ferguson was another who was playing over there. I'm not sure if he's returned to Melbourne but I did see him at the intra-club game earlier in the year.
I didn't see much of Rix playing at Subiaco but I think he went pretty well last season. There isn't too many quality ruckmen around at that level.
Yeah. That doesn't surprise me about Rix. He was the best VFL ruckman in the league at Coburg before we picked him up. He never quite made it at AFL level but it wasn't through lack of effort.
Chris Oliver!
He was always a skinny type when he was with us. I thought he had a bit of potential.
Kildonan
6 Jun 2010, 23:27
Im not to sure Sainter, but I did find out, that Rossie Tungatalum is playing for South Freo
http://www.waflonline.com.au/clubplayerload.php?playerID=13838&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=800
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Wow, that's interesting.
I wrongly assumed that he'd returned to St Mary's.
He'd be one to keep an eye on if he goes alright and puts on a bit of a weight.
South Freo recruited him from St Mary's (Inside Football)
SammyFish25
6 Jun 2010, 23:30
Chris Oliver
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=Chris+Oliver
Imageshack not uploading, but yes he was a skinny lad
Simon Templar
7 Jun 2010, 00:27
Sorry - I got distracted with the Wulf-man reference!!! Good athlete, but still can't forgive him hitting the post from 2m out (leaving us with a draw against the Swans in a miserable year for the club).
Wow Squizzy, out of the blue I was just thinking of that game today & was trying to recall who the player was that hit the post.
I believe it was the game where I saw Max Hudghton reduced to tears after the game. An endearing moment that made him my favourite player for years to come.
Very interesting comments & info on Milney from 2000 & Stevie congratulation on 400+ goals & 200 games. I've often been critical of your goal hungry attitude but the stats speak for themselves. You have served the club well.
Thanks Kildonan for rehashing this thread.
Squizzy1970
7 Jun 2010, 11:35
I remember that game, it was dal's first real big game aswell...well first game i noticed him. Remember he had a torpe from 65 to try and steal the game after the siren and fell short by a about 3, shattered!
Wasn't the worst effort, and wouldn't mind seeing more torps (from the guys who can kick them naturally like him and Gram).
Squizzy1970
7 Jun 2010, 11:37
I believe it was the game where I saw Max Hudghton reduced to tears after the game. An endearing moment that made him my favourite player for years to come.
Maybe that was the game against the Dogs when we were 6 goals up at 3/4 time but somehow managed to lose by a point?
Every female St Kilda supporter I knew melted on that night in sympathy for Maxie!!!
Squizzy1970
7 Jun 2010, 11:39
The one and only.
Last I heard he was playing in the WAFL.
Is he still over there?
Was Swan Districts' leading goalkicker in 2007 (same year that "Fiery" Miles was B&F).
Is playing in a lower league over there and kicking a bag most weeks.
Persevering Saint
8 Jun 2010, 16:26
Yep the Maxy cry game was against the Doggies. Gut wrenching loss.
Yep the Maxy cry game was against the Doggies. Gut wrenching loss.
Correct.
Yep the Maxy cry game was against the Doggies. Gut wrenching loss.
We were 0-8 and went into 3/4 time with a 31 point lead. Considering we only won 2 games in 2000 and were winless to that point in 2001 you could hardly blame Max. I know how horrible I felt.
I blamed Tim Watson for the loss as Spider had dominated in the ruck and yet for the whole of the last quarter he played as a key forward. I've since heard Tim say that he had no choice because Spider couldn't run out the game.
That game was also memorable for two other reasons.
Firstly, a sponsor (Lease Plan from memory) actually covered the cost of the game so everybody got free entry. Interestingly, despite not having to pay, the crowd was still only around 35,000.
Secondly, Jason Blake made his debut. He kicked a goal as well. He's gone on to carve out a pretty successful career for himself. :thumbsu:
Flyingsaint
8 Jun 2010, 20:56
Thanks for great read-
Saw Rixy play for the WAFL against the Vics a couple of weeks ago- he's still big and can tap but not a lot more.
I too assumed that Ross T was still in NT- but maybe will go back for their season.
Simon Templar
8 Jun 2010, 21:16
Maybe that was the game against the Dogs when we were 6 goals up at 3/4 time but somehow managed to lose by a point?
Every female St Kilda supporter I knew melted on that night in sympathy for Maxie!!!
Yep the Maxy cry game was against the Doggies. Gut wrenching loss.
Correct.
Thanks guys... my memory is a bit hazy these days.
But I do remember Wulf hitting the post from 2m. Being in country NSW I always had to wait until very late night or early morn for the AFL replays & trying to avoid the news all day so I could still enjoy the suspense of the game. At that moment when Wulf hit the post I screamed "OH NO" & slumped to the floor. I woke both my young kids who came running into the loungeroom thinking something disasterous had happened (it did) but hard to covince a pair of 6 y/os that hitting the post was all that bad.
the_riddler
9 Jun 2010, 12:06
Thanks guys... my memory is a bit hazy these days.
But I do remember Wulf hitting the post from 2m. Being in country NSW I always had to wait until very late night or early morn for the AFL replays & trying to avoid the news all day so I could still enjoy the suspense of the game. At that moment when Wulf hit the post I screamed "OH NO" & slumped to the floor. I woke both my young kids who came running into the loungeroom thinking something disasterous had happened (it did) but hard to covince a pair of 6 y/os that hitting the post was all that bad.
The game you are thinking of was a couple of years later against the Swans when it was a draw 56 all after Daniel Wulf played on and missed from a few metres out. Daniel Wulf wasn't playing in the game against the dogs, I'm not even sure he was on our list in 2000 when this game was played. 2001 was the infamous year of Blighty which means this game must've been 2000.
The game you are thinking of was a couple of years later against the Swans when it was a draw 56 all after Daniel Wulf played on and missed from a few metres out. Daniel Wulf wasn't playing in the game against the dogs, I'm not even sure he was on our list in 2000 when this game was played. 2001 was the infamous year of Blighty which means this game must've been 2000.
If I remember correctly, we were expected to get thrashed, but we employed the super flood that night against the Swannies and should have won. So, we tried the flood the next week against the Pies and got towelled up.
Haha Daniel Wulf. Made me laugh I remember that game one of the earliest games I still remember. I was right behind the freaking goals watching him run in, already celebrating and he hits the post. It was a 45 degree angle but he could have run in to point blank.
All I remember from the Hudghton crying against the Bulldogs game was Max crying. Probably for the best.
Back to Milne, normally when b graders get this much attention with articles in the paper, the coach praising them online etc they play much worse. Will be very impressed if he can get 6 goals in the next couple of games. Both opponents are awesome and they will no doubt focus in on him even more.
Back to Milne, normally when b graders get this much attention with articles in the paper, the coach praising them online etc they play much worse. Will be very impressed if he can get 6 goals in the next couple of games. Both opponents are awesome and they will no doubt focus in on him even more.
So Milne is a B grader who just happens to have reached more than 400 goals in less than 200 games?