View Full Version : mrp The Fletcher Trip case continues...
Boucks09
14 Jun 2010, 18:21
So it appears that the Match Review Panel continues to display the ridiculous level of inconsistency that infuriates all supporters.
After Dustin Fletcher copped a week for another pathetic tripping call, the blatant hypocrisy continues.
- Leigh Montagna gets off with a reprimand following another tripping charge (he got done for exactly the same thing a couple of years ago).
- Andrew Mackie does EXACTLY the same thing as Fletcher when he grapped Davey's legs as he was running into an open goal....the outcome....nothing.
- Brad Dalziell - see Montagna.
It's an absolute joke and I've had enough.
Only a few weeks ago, one of our posters (Phone?) made a 'joke' that the tripping rule only applied to Dustin Fletcher.
At the Geelong game on Saturday night, we all saw an incident barely any different to the one that saw Fletch suspended for his trip on Barry Hall.
I said to my brother "as long as that is treated exactly the same, I'll take it."
Nothing.
Not even mentioned.
Indeed the Match Review Panel are showing that the rules and interpretations only apply to particular players.
Not good enough from such an important component of our governing bodies.
Ben the Gooner
14 Jun 2010, 18:24
The Fletcher Rule.
And Graham Bond can **** off with his "tackle slipped" bullshit for anyone who's not Fletch.
Wahooti Fandango
14 Jun 2010, 18:28
Double standards. :thumbsd:
Great minds, Boucks.
I'm absolutely filthy.
Does anybody know:
a) Who's in charge of the entire panel/process?
b) How to get in contact with them?
TheGodDelusion
14 Jun 2010, 18:30
There was another one in last weeks Geelong WC match, which whilst raised by the commentators wasn't even referenced by the MRP. It's BS and the club has to do something about it.
Macca18
14 Jun 2010, 18:33
It isn't called 'The Fletcher Rule' for nothing...
Considering the ultra close result of our game against Sydney, his suspension may even end up costing us a place in the finals come the end of the year...
DarthAnnihl8or
14 Jun 2010, 21:16
That wasn't the only one either. Ablett tripped Stanton in Geelongs forward pocket, either 2nd or last quarter. Stanton had just beaten him in a contest, Ablett went to ground reached out and grabbed Stanton's ankle. Wasn't even paid a free kick.
Cheapies
14 Jun 2010, 21:33
didnt see the montagna or dalziell one. But Mackie did go for the tackle, had him by the shirt/shorts then slipped down and took his feet, nothing there.
Mackie's was nearly identical to Fletcher's.
Cheapies
14 Jun 2010, 21:49
Mackie's was nearly identical to Fletcher's.
i dont reckon it was. fletcher couldnt grab shirt and swiped the legs. mackie just couldnt hold on.
all in all resulted in a player not having the shot at goal. just saying mackies looked a bit more unintentional than fletchers
Both lunged towards the player, arms out in front as they fell.
Both grabbed the opponent's legs intentionally.
If Fletcher gets a week, Mackie should've.
Cheapies
14 Jun 2010, 22:02
hmmmmm, yeah
lemon chicken
14 Jun 2010, 23:37
Try telling Geelong supporters they think it was a legal tackle. I started a thread on the umpiring board and they think the 2 incidents arent even comparable. I think Fletcher's bad record gets him the week but the fact it hasnt even been reviewed is a joke.
Heh, Geelong supporters.
Some moron behind me on the weekend was banging on all night about there being two sets of rules; one for Ablett, one for everybody else.
I was thinking to myself "you're bloody right there is; he and Goodes are a protected species".
smcateer
15 Jun 2010, 05:52
i dont reckon it was. fletcher couldnt grab shirt and swiped the legs. mackie just couldnt hold on.
all in all resulted in a player not having the shot at goal. just saying mackies looked a bit more unintentional than fletchers
Agree, it was very different. Mackie made contact with the player's hip, then slipped off and caught his feet. Didn't slide down exactly, so should have been a free, but it was a lot less cynical than Fletch's one, I reckon.
I just don't reckon it should have a suspension associated with it. Otherwise all professional fouls should carry suspensions, because that's all that's wrong with it.
Towno78
15 Jun 2010, 10:58
Both lunged towards the player, arms out in front as they fell.
Both grabbed the opponent's legs intentionally.
If Fletcher gets a week, Mackie should've.
Na, both lunged, but Mackie tackled Davey with both hands above the knee and slid down, whereas Fletcher just swiped with 1 outstretched arm and made contact just below the knee. Mackie's was definitely a tackle that ended up a trip, but there's no way Fletcher could've argued he was tackling because it was just a swipe with 1 arm.
Haven't seen the others.
Heh, Geelong supporters.
Some moron behind me on the weekend was banging on all night about there being two sets of rules; one for Ablett, one for everybody else.
I was thinking to myself "you're bloody right there is; he and Goodes are a protected species".
No doubt about it.
The Fletcher Rule.
so true
Noddy Holder
20 Jun 2010, 15:23
Heh, Geelong supporters.
Some moron behind me on the weekend was banging on all night about there being two sets of rules; one for Ablett, one for everybody else.
I was thinking to myself "you're bloody right there is; he and Goodes are a protected species".
God I hate Geelong supporters. Freakin bunch of bandwagoners who have no idea. You see them at the game all there in their brand new scarves and jerseys and they have no absolutely no idea of the rules. Both games this year I've been amazed at the level of stupidity that comes out of their mouths.
I don't mind Geelong but their supporters are making me hate them. I've got two mates who are Geelong supporters who haven't really been into the footy for years but they've come out of the woodwork the past couple of years. I've had to shut my mouth on a few occasions. They're very typical of your average Geelong supporter.
caboose
20 Jun 2010, 16:00
I think Fletcher's bad record gets him the week but the fact it hasnt even been reviewed is a joke.
This is the most annoying aspect of all. Fletch only has a 'bad record' because they have kept suspending him for this kind of thing and rarely apply the same punishment to other players.
They have compounded their first few errors with him by now suspending him for absolutely anything. Primarily on the grounds that he already supposedly has a bad record.
As for suspending him for the trip but nobody else .. meh, this is standard operating procedure for the AFL.
It's not much different to their one-sided treatment of the Michael Long bump in the 2000 GF. They were at pains to say that kind of incident would continue to draw hefty suspensions in the future but the same sort of actions occurred repeatedly (admittedly not too many went down like Simmonds did) over the next two or three years and absolutely nothing was done about it.
Nor a lot different to their huge pronouncements - when they were trying to justify suspending a string of Essendon players (including one for 11 weeks) - after the 1990 Grand Final. They made a big song and dance at the time that they would very punitively crack down with their suspensions in future Grand Finals as well, but there has rarely been a lengthy suspension from any of those games in the 20 years since. In fact, Michael Long's has probably been the biggest!
Longy413
20 Jun 2010, 16:34
So it appears that the Match Review Panel continues to display the ridiculous level of inconsistency that infuriates all supporters.
After Dustin Fletcher copped a week for another pathetic tripping call, the blatant hypocrisy continues.
- Leigh Montagna gets off with a reprimand following another tripping charge (he got done for exactly the same thing a couple of years ago).
Fletch got a reprimand as well, but had carry over points.
The biggest problem for Fletch was his intent and I have no doubt it was intentional.
Whether that should be a report or just a free though, I'm not sure. Had it been a player traveling at top speed, it's a pretty dangerous act.
Towno78
20 Jun 2010, 17:51
This is the most annoying aspect of all. Fletch only has a 'bad record' because they have kept suspending him for this kind of thing and rarely apply the same punishment to other players.
They have compounded their first few errors with him by now suspending him for absolutely anything. Primarily on the grounds that he already supposedly has a bad record.
As for suspending him for the trip but nobody else .. meh, this is standard operating procedure for the AFL.
It's not much different to their one-sided treatment of the Michael Long bump in the 2000 GF. They were at pains to say that kind of incident would continue to draw hefty suspensions in the future but the same sort of actions occurred repeatedly (admittedly not too many went down like Simmonds did) over the next two or three years and absolutely nothing was done about it.
Nor a lot different to their huge pronouncements - when they were trying to justify suspending a string of Essendon players (including one for 11 weeks) - after the 1990 Grand Final. They made a big song and dance at the time that they would very punitively crack down with their suspensions in future Grand Finals as well, but there has rarely been a lengthy suspension from any of those games in the 20 years since. In fact, Michael Long's has probably been the biggest!
Alistair Lynch
Fletch given two weeks. I didn't see the incident so if anyone could shed some light it would be appreciated.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/96721/default.aspx
Dustin Fletcher, Essendon, has been charged with a Level Two misconduct offence in that he kneed Beau Muston, Hawthorn, during the first quarter of the Round 13 match between Essendon and Hawthorn, played at the MCG on Friday June 18, 2010.
In summary, his previous poor record means that his two-game sanction must remain at two games, even with an early plea.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/96721/default.aspx
lemon chicken
11 Jul 2010, 19:44
Saw a Saints player (Blake?) stick his leg out whilst trying to tackle last night like i have seen Fletch suspended for in past years. Wait and see what happens Monday at MRP lottery night.
astrowizzle
14 Jul 2010, 13:13
Saw a Saints player (Blake?) stick his leg out whilst trying to tackle last night like i have seen Fletch suspended for in past years. Wait and see what happens Monday at MRP lottery night.
As Expected - 45 demerit points. Dustin is the only player who is capable of tripping in the AFL. For all the tools from other teams crying out how dangerous he is with his attempted trips, he has been suspended for almost identical incidents at least 2 times in his career. You should all be terrified and fear for your players safety when you play St Kila coz Blake is an offender now.
If Blake had been treated the same for this as Fletch was when he had no priors hed have gotten 2 weeks reduced to 1 for a clean record and now be on the downhill slide with the full of Chit MRP. :thumbsd:
As Expected - 45 demerit points. Dustin is the only player who is capable of tripping in the AFL. For all the tools from other teams crying out how dangerous he is with his attempted trips, he has been suspended for almost identical incidents at least 2 times in his career. You should all be terrified and fear for your players safety when you play St Kila coz Blake is an offender now.
If Blake had been treated the same for this as Fletch was when he had no priors hed have gotten 2 weeks reduced to 1 for a clean record and now be on the downhill slide with the full of Chit MRP. :thumbsd:
And mike Sheahan mentioned the Fletcher rule on 3AW today.
Ben the Gooner
9 Aug 2010, 19:28
Leigh Brown gets a reprimand.:rolleyes:
stay true
9 Aug 2010, 19:31
Yeah I had a feeling that would happen...
Mumbo Jumbo
9 Aug 2010, 19:59
That's a disgrace.
Leigh Brown gets a reprimand.:rolleyes:
So tripping by hand is more dangerous than tripping by foot.
Boucks09
9 Aug 2010, 21:10
So tripping by hand is more dangerous than tripping by foot.
The MRP is a farce and embarrassment to the AFL.
He has a 5 year clean record - not sure how much of a bearing that had on the reduction of his sentence though.
He has a 5 year clean record - not sure how much of a bearing that had on the reduction of his sentence though.
Not having a go at L.Brown - 5 year clean record undoubtedly helps.
You probably would have preferred L.Brown to have a weeks suspension so he doesnt have points hanging over his head.
And I imagine that l.Brown or Jolley will be rested this week.
DarthAnnihl8or
9 Aug 2010, 22:20
I didn't see Leigh Brown's. (Does anyone have any Video.
But I did see Jonothan Browns and Fletcher has been suspended for the exact same thing. Brown didn't even have a free kick paid against him.
This is a joke and there should be some process available for clubs to vent at shit like this.
Syphoncom
9 Aug 2010, 22:28
lol I remember the incident earlier in the year where Fletch got suspended. I thought I was getting Punk'd. That was a fkng disgrace.
Ben the Gooner
9 Aug 2010, 22:54
He has a 5 year clean record - not sure how much of a bearing that had on the reduction of his sentence though.
Brown had 80 base points, down to 60 with good record down to 45 with the plea.
Fletcher had a base somewhere in the high 100s, loaded to past 200 with a poor record (and possibly carryover points) and brought back down with the early plea.
You may remember the Jason Blake tripping incident earlier in the year.
I rate the L.Brown incident as less severe than the Blake incident.
The issue is whether tripping by hand should be graded the same as tripping by foot.
Anyone see the Riewoldt deliberate trip by hand in the 3rd quarter? Free kick paid. Was pretty similar to the one Fletcher got a week for.
table tennis
18 Sep 2010, 22:22
Anyone see the Riewoldt deliberate trip by hand in the 3rd quarter? Free kick paid. Was pretty similar to the one Fletcher got a week for.
But it's grand final week and it is riewoldt it won't even be looked at. Fletcher would get 8 weeks
Fletchers was far worse, intentional and more dangerous.
Nothing in tonight. Come on guys, someone touches someone's leg and this thread gets bumped up again. Please.. :rolleyes:
Donakebab
18 Sep 2010, 23:30
Forget the whole Fletch thing or the fact that the GF is next week, Riewoldt shouldn't have anything to answer for.
Shit bump.
Forget the whole Fletch thing or the fact that the GF is next week, Riewoldt shouldn't have anything to answer for.
Shit bump.
Of course he should have nothing to answer for. Tripping by hand shouldn't be a reportable offence.
The fact is that Fletcher got suspended for an almost identical incident earlier in the season. I would actually be surprised if he didn't get a reprimand.
Fletchers was far worse, intentional and more dangerous.
How was Fletcher's worse? They both clipped legs from behind with their hand.