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Hocking Hurley McVeigh
NLM Hooker Winders
Melks Watson Jetta
Zaka Gumby Davey
Quinn Ryder Reimers
Belly Stanton Welsh
Prismall Lonergan H.Slat T.Slat
I like it!!!
Go dons:thumbsu:
matty lloyd the champ
1 Jul 2010, 16:47
You n00b :D
Edit: Damn he edited his post
Don't like Quinn as an inclusion, I just don't see him ever becoming an AFL footballer.
well - not those positions - but thats the squad - and who knows - they may well line up like that! :)
Oh Tayteridge
1 Jul 2010, 16:49
**** this.
Skeeta Olly
1 Jul 2010, 16:50
FWIW
IN: Quinn, Reimers, T. Slattery
OUT: Hille, Atkinson, Fletcher
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 16:52
As they were selected:
Essendon
B: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Tyson Slattery, Heath Hocking
HB: Mark McVeigh, Cale Hooker, Michael Quinn
C: Brent Prismall, Jobe Watson, Brent Stanton
HF: Leroy Jetta, Scott Gumbleton, David Zaharakis
F: Alwyn Davey, Michael Hurley, Jake Melksham
Foll: Patrick Rydey, Jason Winderlich, Andrew Welsh
I/C: Tom Bellchambers, Sam Lonergan, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery
Emg: Bachar Houli, Courtenay Dempsey, Ricky Dyson
In: T. Slattery, Reimers, Quinn
Out: Fletcher (suspended), Pears (pancreas), Atkinson
New: Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide)
Johnny619
1 Jul 2010, 16:54
Quinn!!!
RedFeather
1 Jul 2010, 16:55
Good to see Tyson Slattery will play his first AFL game. :thumbsu:
But at Full Back? Isn't he a bit small to line up on either Walker or Tippett :confused:
Also really dissapointed to not see Williams or Dempsey in the team.
The Lonergan and H.Slattery situation still perplexes me TBH.
stillGOTmyBEANIE
1 Jul 2010, 16:55
Good to see T.Slattery named, on field too :thumbsu:
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 16:57
As they were selected:
Essendon
B: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Tyson Slattery, Heath Hocking
HB: Mark McVeigh, Cale Hooker, Michael Quinn
C: Brent Prismall, Jobe Watson, Brent Stanton
HF: Leroy Jetta, Scott Gumbleton, David Zaharakis
F: Alwyn Davey, Michael Hurley, Jake Melksham
Foll: Patrick Rydey, Jason Winderlich, Andrew Welsh
I/C: Tom Bellchambers, Sam Lonergan, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery
Emg: Bachar Houli, Courtenay Dempsey, Ricky Dyson
In: T. Slattery, Reimers, Quinn
Out: Fletcher (suspended), Pears (pancreas), Atkinson
New: Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide)
I suppose i dont mind it, just cant see how lonergan and slattery keep their spots. I think williams is better than lonergan and gives us more options if hurley has to go back and i feel we are missing a bit of zip without dempsey or atkinson..but time will tell. Im pleased for t.slattery, hope he can have a greater impact than his namesake.
TeamHurley
1 Jul 2010, 16:57
Hslatts and lonergan GTFO.
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 16:58
Good to see Tyson Slattery will play his first AFL game. :thumbsu:
But at Full Back? Isn't he a bit small to line up on either Walker or Tippett :confused:
Hes a couple cm shorter than walker and around 5kg lighter so big challenge, hooker to tippet is a good match up.
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 17:01
ADELAIDE
B: Johncock, Rutten, Doughty
HB: Symes, Davis van Berlo
C: Armstrong, Dangerfield, Thompson
HF: Henderson, Walker, Reilly
F: Jaensch, Tippett, Douglas
R: Griffin, Sloane, Goodwin
I/C: Vince, Maric, Stevens, Porplyzia.
Emerg: Gunston, Petrenko, McKernan.
In: Porplyzia
Out: Mackay (ankle)
Looks good. damn
You n00b :D
Edit: Damn he edited his post
Don't like Quinn as an inclusion, I just don't see him ever becoming an AFL footballer.
Have a read of the Bendigo threads, by all reports he has been tearing it up for some time now.
The club will save money seeing they dont have to fly T.slattery's parents over for the game.
bombers2011
1 Jul 2010, 17:04
Lonergan over Williams/Houli?
Quinn over Dempsey?
Very relieved to see Reimers back. Under-rated (not by himself).
Quinn to his credit played the best game i've ever seen him play v Nth Ballarat at Windy Hill a couple of weeks back, so he is being rewarded...
I'm a believer.
yeah Hooker to Tippett..Tippett just kicked a lazy 7 on him last year. and that was down here.
Really don't like the omission of Atkinson. Where's our dash off the backline?
NLM T.Slatts Hocking McVeigh Hooker Quinn are named as our starting 6. I can see this getting really ugly...I'd make 2 late omissions, Houli and Dempsey back in for Quinn and Lonergan
No major surprises in selection.
Thought that T.Slattery and Reimers were locks to return and the club must think Quinn is best of the rookies.
Not overly surprised that Atkinson was dropped as he was defensively shaky against the Hawks and could have been punished more severely on the score board.
Lonergan played his best game against the Hawks - although he was lucky to be in the team previously.
footycool
1 Jul 2010, 17:08
WTF does Atkinson get dropped at Slattery/Lonergan dont?
twentington
1 Jul 2010, 17:08
Good luck to tyson :thumbsu:
Certainly has a bit of a different feel about the side with no dempsey, atko, fletch. Some of the biggest rage has come from dempsey and atko not being accountable in defense so we will see if we can keep adelaide to a low score without them.
Would have liked houli in for lonergan.
Certainly a lot of kids who can kick a goal in the side. Im counting 15-16 that i could reasonably expect a goal out of on any given night so really if we can't kick a winning score then we would have leaked a shite load.
Quinn will be interesting. His skills have improved out of sight so hopefully he can maintain his composure and contribute well.
Looking forward to a big win though its going to be tough interstate and hard to predict which way this will go!
rickydysonforbl
1 Jul 2010, 17:09
worst selection ever. can't believe half back flanks of mcveigh and quinn over dempsey and dyson. this team looks yuk, season 2010 another failure.
lemon chicken
1 Jul 2010, 17:09
yeah Hooker to Tippett..Tippett just kicked a lazy 7 on him last year. and that was down here.
Really don't like the omission of Atkinson. Where's our dash off the backline?
NLM T.Slatts Hocking McVeigh Hooker Quinn are named as our starting 6. I can see this getting really ugly...I'd make 2 late omissions, Houli and Dempsey back in for Quinn and Lonergan
Hooker was playing back-up ruck that game as well as key defender. Only around 3-4 of those goals were kicked on him.
rickydysonforbl
1 Jul 2010, 17:10
lonergan is just there to give the members hope that they will get a game. if you spud it up all the time and have a terrible footy build you are still a chance to get a game at the bombers.
The Donners
1 Jul 2010, 17:12
I'll be extremely quick to judge Quinn. I'll give him a go... but quick to judge.
Also, we've lost 2 tall defenders and we bring in smalls to replace them, wtf (height between Pears and Quinn/Slattery mightn't be much but size is)??? Are we that light on for tall back-ups?
Skeeta Olly
1 Jul 2010, 17:14
Yes. Yes we are.
lemon chicken
1 Jul 2010, 17:15
Lonergan has been getting tagging roles so i dont know how replacing him with somebody like Williams is relevant.
Quinn plays 2 good games and straight in. Other blokes play consistantly well all season and dont get elevated or there name is Houli and his magnet must have fallen behind the filing cabinet.
bombersno1
1 Jul 2010, 17:18
Prefer this team to the last team we named. Adelaide will probably thrash us though.
worst selection ever. can't believe half back flanks of mcveigh and quinn over dempsey and dyson. this team looks yuk, season 2010 another failure.You wouldn't happen to be biased towards Dyson would you? He doesn't deserve a spot in the team at this point. Oh and McVeigh has been good recently and Quinn has great form in the VFL. You should be asking about players like Lonergan and Slattery getting a game over Dempsey (and even Dyson even though I have a distaste for him).
Ahh well...
There's always 2011.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
1 Jul 2010, 17:24
ADELAIDE
B: Johncock, Rutten, Doughty
HB: Symes, Davis van Berlo
C: Armstrong, Dangerfield, Thompson
HF: Henderson, Walker, Reilly
F: Jaensch, Tippett, Douglas
R: Griffin, Sloane, Goodwin
I/C: Vince, Maric, Stevens, Porplyzia.
Emerg: Gunston, Petrenko, McKernan.
In: Porplyzia
Out: Mackay (ankle)
Looks good. damn
Spike to tear Porps a new one played really well on him last time.the worries for me are Walker,Tippet and Johncock.
Spike to tear Porps a new one played really well on him last time.the worries for me are Walker,Tippet and Johncock.
You would think that Jetta or Davey will do a defensive job on Johncock.
Don't mind the changes actually..
Although we can all say (and hope for dear god), that Quinny, despite all his zip and dash, does not line up on a half back flank..
perhaps: Lonergan -> half back flank (Adelaide small forward) and Quinn into a half forward flank or forward pocket? It will be a good learning curb for him if he is to play well there, so I suppose it is only going to be a good thing for him..
Would have liked to have seen Hardingham play, but like I said in an earlier post, it was mostly likely going to be one (Tyson Slattery) or the other (Hardingham) that was going to play..
So yeah, should be a good contest (hopefully), we lose this.. Season over I imagine, 3 games out of the 8, plus percentage. A long way back from here if it is a loss.
You would think that Jetta or Davey will do a defensive job on Johncock.Lonergan? Jetta and Davey offer more when they are attacking.
Zahasouvlakis
1 Jul 2010, 17:29
I thought Remiers was over in Bunbury poppin' pills and forcing lewigie's cousin out of his job...
Happy.
Quinn has been on song all year at Bendigo...and gets in because Marigilani has dropped off the radar and Silverlock needs meat on his bones.
T. Slattery gets the Pears job..and deserves it for mine.
I want Reimers to tag McLeod...that could be fun.
You would think that Jetta or Davey will do a defensive job on Johncock.
Don't like this at all Yaco55.
Davey and Jetta can do more damage than Johncock can, so let them play there normal game.
My Danger man is Dangerfield.
Spike to tear Porps a new one played really well on him last time.the worries for me are Walker,Tippet and Johncock.
Yes. I have similar thoughts.
We'll leave Johncock unattended all evening and he'll leisurely pick up about 35 touches running off Half Back after our forwards (as is the usual feature in Adelaide and anywhere against the Crows) refuse to chase or give a crap.
Tippett & Walker, in scenes reminiscent of 2009 will kick 13.1 between them and dribble them through from all angles and set the AAMI ferals alight.
Our one saving grace this time will be the fact Tyson Edwards isn't playing for this mob anymore. Don't get me started on his 'one out of the box' last year when he collected about 164 possessions in his 300th game.
The Crows, in all honesty, make me sick. The side named on paper looks hugely uninspiring in my opinion but I've been proven hugely wrong in the past when I've had similar thoughts. I hope this week is no exception.
Duckworth
1 Jul 2010, 17:33
So yeah, should be a good contest (hopefully), we lose this.. Season over I imagine, 3 games out of the 8, plus percentage. A long way back from here if it is a loss.
If we lose this Adelaide could go above us on the ladder. At least be on the same number of wins... Season definitely over if we lose.
bombersno1
1 Jul 2010, 17:37
I don't mind if we lose, but there have to be more signs going forward.
bombersno1
1 Jul 2010, 17:38
No Angus??
Still has the hammy.
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 17:38
Spike to tear Porps a new one played really well on him last time.the worries for me are Walker,Tippet and Johncock.
Hope so, lonergan is going to have to have the match of his career and put a forward tag on johncock..similar to what muston did to him a few weeks ago..completely kept him out of it. Not sure if they will go with t.slattery on walker or maybe lovett-murray and put t.slats on henderson. I think we have to play a loose man in defence but knights will never do that. Hope welsh can get himself up for another game like he did for hodge and put a good hard tag on vince or goodwin. Looking for a big game from gumby after the break and will proably be up against stevens or davis so hope he can have a real impact.
bombermick
1 Jul 2010, 17:41
I don't mind them rewarding good form. We would perhaps look better structurally with Dempsey, Williams or Neagle in the side but Quinn and T. Slatts have been producing in the VFL, whereas those guys have not. If Williams produces this week then he'll probably play next week.
If we lose this Adelaide could go above us on the ladder. At least be on the same number of wins... Season definitely over if we lose.
:o we could be in the market for the wooden spoon on Monday :o
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
1 Jul 2010, 17:43
Yes. I have similar thoughts.
We'll leave Johncock unattended all evening and he'll leisurely pick up about 35 touches running off Half Back after our forwards (as is the usual feature in Adelaide and anywhere against the Crows) refuse to chase or give a crap.
Tippett & Walker, in scenes reminiscent of 2009 will kick 13.1 between them and dribble them through from all angles and set the AAMI ferals alight.
Our one saving grace this time will be the fact Tyson Edwards isn't playing for this mob anymore. Don't get me started on his 'one out of the box' last year when he collected about 164 possessions in his 300th game.
The Crows, in all honesty, make me sick. The side named on paper looks hugely uninspiring in my opinion but I've been proven hugely wrong in the past when I've had similar thoughts. I hope this week is no exception.
You will see MK in the box with that "I dont know what to do and give a ****" look on his face.
I like it. I think everyone should agree on 1 thing, and that is that we had to do something different. Wasn't sure which way we'd go, but I'm glad we're mixing it up a bit. Bit of youth who would be itching to play, let's hope they take the game on and make it exciting.
Walker is looking threatening, freak talent and his arrogance is starting to flow at the top level. Hasn't had that big "I've arrived" game yet, but you get the sense that it's coming. Imo the second best defender should go to him, Porps is out of form and obviously Tippo takes the no. 1.
Looking forward to getting a look at Tyson Slattery at AFL level! Good luck to the kid.
Frothies Mcveigh
1 Jul 2010, 17:58
Congratulations on Tyson Slattery making his debut. (bout time) I personally am thrilled to have Quinn back in the team. Has been playing great footy at Bendigo and hopefully can continue that at the top level.
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
1 Jul 2010, 18:03
Walker is looking threatening, freak talent and his arrogance is starting to flow at the top level. Hasn't had that big "I've arrived" game yet, but you get the sense that it's coming. Imo the second best defender should go to him, Porps is out of form and obviously Tippo takes the no. 1.
Looking forward to getting a look at Tyson Slattery at AFL level! Good luck to the kid.
And the sad thing it will be againts us this week always happens *sigh*
Nasty Penguin
1 Jul 2010, 18:28
Adelaide's looked good on paper all year. Bock still missing helps us and as mentioned before Mcveigh to do the job on porps.
The hawks killed us in the middle last week so one man that needs to remove the finger is Stanton. Let's hope the legendary no.5 gave some advice to the current one. Forward line looks as dangerous as it has all year with davey in excellent form and Melksham to add some class.
The bombers don't travel well and thats my main concern. Hille and Gus are big outs with the inclusion of Quinn it will be interesting to see the improvement from last year. Look a little slow with lonergan/hank in the side would prefer a speedier dempsey or willo up forward. Only have room for one plodder in the side and thats welsh who will tag vince i'm guessing.
Be a good game at least better that the finals performance last year.
Bombers by 14
this was the side that lost by 16 goals in the final to the crows last year, in bold are the players who aren't around this time...
B: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Tayte Pears, Jarrod Atkinson
HB: Henry Slattery, Dustin Fletcher, Adam McPhee
C: Andrew Lovett, Ricky Dyson, Mark McVeigh
HF: Jason Winderlich, Michael Hurley, Angus Monfries
F: *Michael Quinn, Jay Neagle, Andrew Welsh
Foll: Cale Hooker, Brent Stanton, Jobe Watson
I/C: Hayden Skipworth, Courtenay Dempsey, Brent Prismall, Heath Hocking
*Tom Bellchambers (late withdrawal)
so that leaves the change of the following (bolded) players coming in...
B: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Tyson Slattery, Heath Hocking
HB: Mark McVeigh, Cale Hooker, Michael Quinn
C: Brent Prismall, Jobe Watson, Brent Stanton
HF: Leroy Jetta, Scott Gumbleton, David Zaharakis
F: Alwyn Davey, Michael Hurley, Jake Melksham
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jason Winderlich, Andrew Welsh
I/C: Tom Bellchambers, Sam Lonergan, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery
Massive difference (even though they dont always play in named positions) is up forward looking more dangerous and having not 0... but 2 ruckman in the side. Major changes down back as well, but with the reshuffling they seem settled enough.
Adelaide have currently gone LWLW, the Dons form hasn't been horrible, just smashed by the Cats, Essendon should get up by two kicks with
the Dons small forwards being the difference.
Chief Crow
1 Jul 2010, 19:06
Happy.
Quinn has been on song all year at Bendigo...and gets in because Marigilani has dropped off the radar and Silverlock needs meat on his bones.
T. Slattery gets the Pears job..and deserves it for mine.
I want Reimers to tag McLeod...that could be fun.
Is he gonna buy a ticket and sit next to Macca in the Grand Stand ;)
table tennis
1 Jul 2010, 19:25
Riemers lucky, as form hasn't warrented selection.
Lonergan probably in the same boat.
Quinn deserves his spot. Has been flying the past month at Bendigo.
I think we do play him at Half Back, his run and Carry will be important.
Do not underestimate the learning curve that this boy has been on. He hasnt been starring at VFL level by being out of his depth, he has been learning and its all coming together, so he should have a crack. Did some nice things at senior level last year, did some horrendus things, but he will learn.
Tyson comes in, as we are a defender short, and there is not much that we can bring in from the magoos.
He will be a perfect match up on Taylor Walker. Who by the way, is not that big.
Hooker to Tippet, McVeigh to Porpus.
I am hoping that Zaha and Melksham get extended time in the guts, especially Zaha. He is a good forward option for us, but long term i see him as a midfielder/winger type.
saladodger
1 Jul 2010, 19:28
Congrats to T.Slatt.
Side needs more Dempsey and less Quinn.
How has Howlett's form been for Bendigo I have liked what I have seen at AFL level?
If Willo cannot get a run now, will he ever? Will this kick in the arse put some fire in his belly and get him up and about or will he ride the wave, take the coin and get out when the contract is over having played a handful of games? This trade (at the moment) is shaping to be a massive blunder.
BomberTime
1 Jul 2010, 19:42
Riemers lucky, as form hasn't warrented selection.
Lonergan probably in the same boat.
Quinn deserves his spot. Has been flying the past month at Bendigo.
I think we do play him at Half Back, his run and Carry will be important.
Do not underestimate the learning curve that this boy has been on. He hasnt been starring at VFL level by being out of his depth, he has been learning and its all coming together, so he should have a crack. Did some nice things at senior level last year, did some horrendus things, but he will learn.
Tyson comes in, as we are a defender short, and there is not much that we can bring in from the magoos.
He will be a perfect match up on Taylor Walker. Who by the way, is not that big.
Hooker to Tippet, McVeigh to Porpus.
I am hoping that Zaha and Melksham get extended time in the guts, especially Zaha. He is a good forward option for us, but long term i see him as a midfielder/winger type.
He looks and sounds pretty big..192cm and 97 kg compared to slattery who is 189cm and listed at 87kg maybe pushing 90kg so he is a bit undermanned so the defence will really need to help each other out.
Douglas is another player that has been really good for them this year so he will have to closely watched.
The Angry Bomber
1 Jul 2010, 19:48
That's it. I've given up.
T.Slattery is the only decent inclusion this week..
Until Knights is shown the door... I expect absolutely nothing from the Dons...
30 years for supporting and membership for this rubbish. Sick of it.
Hope we have enough balls to nab Malthouse as coach. We have a solid list but no idea how to use it.
I'm crossing my fingers that we bottom out this year and take the spoon... that would actually make me happy.. think it's the wake up call we need...
North Melbourne, Richmond and Melbourne are far better coached than we are..
Too many people here are happy living in mediocracy..
I'm over it.
coup de grace
1 Jul 2010, 20:12
You n00b :D
Edit: Damn he edited his post
Don't like Quinn as an inclusion, I just don't see him ever becoming an AFL footballer.
just pointing out lovin' ur dp:thumbsu:
table tennis
1 Jul 2010, 20:58
He looks and sounds pretty big..192cm and 97 kg compared to slattery who is 189cm and listed at 87kg maybe pushing 90kg so he is a bit undermanned so the defence will really need to help each other out.
Douglas is another player that has been really good for them this year so he will have to closely watched.
3cm is nothing. 7 or 8 kgs might not mean much, depends where the strenght is porpotioned through your body. T Slatts is ideal to pick up walker
The Great Barry Besanko
1 Jul 2010, 21:39
Dempsey should be a must on the big Football Park. Is it really a good idea to play both Slattery in his debut and Quinn against a physically stronger team?
Knight Ryders
1 Jul 2010, 21:47
That's it. I've given up.
T.Slattery is the only decent inclusion this week..
Until Knights is shown the door... I expect absolutely nothing from the Dons...
30 years for supporting and membership for this rubbish. Sick of it.
Hope we have enough balls to nab Malthouse as coach. We have a solid list but no idea how to use it.
I'm crossing my fingers that we bottom out this year and take the spoon... that would actually make me happy.. think it's the wake up call we need...
North Melbourne, Richmond and Melbourne are far better coached than we are..
Too many people here are happy living in mediocracy..
I'm over it.
Me too. You think Scott and Bailey are better coaches than Knights. ****ing come on.
If you don't think Quinn is up to it, may be you should be asking questions about our depth and Dodoro, not of the selection of Quinn who deserves elevation for reward.
The Angry Bomber
1 Jul 2010, 23:15
Me too. You think Scott and Bailey are better coaches than Knights. ****ing come on.
If you don't think Quinn is up to it, may be you should be asking questions about our depth and Dodoro, not of the selection of Quinn who deserves elevation for reward.
I don't rate our current game plan nor our weekly selections... they both frustrate me to no end...
Attack is not a game plan. It's half a game plan. It's great to watch but we don't have the skills to do it week in and week out.. we get smashed on turn overs.. over and over again...
Attack should starts with in our back-line and our defence should starts with our forwards..
I think Knights is too one dimensional..
I just don't understand our thoughts at the selection table. They make little sense to me..
BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!
1 Jul 2010, 23:27
I don't rate our current game plan nor our weekly selections... they both frustrate me to no end...
Attack is not a game plan. It's half a game plan. It's great to watch but we don't have the skills to do it week in and week out.. we get smashed on turn overs.. over and over again...
Attack should starts with in our back-line and our defence should starts with our forwards..
I think Knights is too one dimensional..
I just don't understand our thoughts at the selection table. They make little sense to me..
Who would you replace Knights with?
HighettBomber
1 Jul 2010, 23:34
Quinn, Reimers and T.Slattery all deserve a game, although Houli deserves one more than any of them. I would have liked to have seen one of Williams or Neagle brought in and Hurley played down back with TS as a third tall, but hopefully he can stand up as a KPD.
Hank and Lonergan have got to be the two luckiest players in the competition. There is absolutely no need for them to perform at any sort of decent level to get a game.
Donakebab
1 Jul 2010, 23:46
T.Slatts isn't a KPD, Hurls will obviously spend time down back with Ryder and TBell rotating forward. Playing short in Adelaide again might seem like a reoccuring nightmare, but expect our midfield to cope better and our small forwards to feature predominantly.
The Angry Bomber
1 Jul 2010, 23:53
Who would you replace Knights with?
Mick Malthouse come on down...
Donakebab
2 Jul 2010, 00:04
Mick Malthouse come on down...
No no no no no.
No.
The Angry Bomber
2 Jul 2010, 00:27
No no no no no.
No.
Something tells me you disagree..
bombre-boy
2 Jul 2010, 01:20
Quinn, Reimers and T.Slattery all deserve a game, although Houli deserves one more than any of them.
This ^^^^
What is being done to this guys career is nothing short of a disgrace...
Donakebab
2 Jul 2010, 01:35
This ^^^^
What is being done to this guys career is nothing short of a disgrace...
So you've been going along to VFL games and watching him play? Know the instructions he's been given when playing in the seniors? Know him personally?
Seriously, the love affair with Houli has to stop. He's currently a depth player and not the saviour of our midfield.
The Angry Bomber
2 Jul 2010, 01:53
So you've been going along to VFL games and watching him play? Know the instructions he's been given when playing in the seniors? Know him personally?
Seriously, the love affair with Houli has to stop. He's currently a depth player and not the saviour of our midfield.
I can understand why some people are a little upset by the way Knights has treated Houli.. but at the end of the day.. it doesn't really matter... we'll end up either trading or delisting him.. his future at the EFC is basically over...
He'll end up at other club, get the game time he deserves and become a better player as a result... eg. Teddy "The Bear" Richards...
We just need to face the facts.
lemon chicken
2 Jul 2010, 06:15
Me too. You think Scott and Bailey are better coaches than Knights. ****ing come on.
If you don't think Quinn is up to it, may be you should be asking questions about our depth and Dodoro, not of the selection of Quinn who deserves elevation for reward.
Brad Scott is far and away a better coach than Knights. All you have to do is attend one of there games and watch their set up all over the ground, the team is well drilled and follow instructions. I havent seen enough of Melbourne to comment on Bailey.
The Angry Bomber
2 Jul 2010, 07:40
Brad Scott is far and away a better coach than Knights. All you have to do is attend one of there games and watch their set up all over the ground, the team is well drilled and follow instructions. I havent seen enough of Melbourne to comment on Bailey.
Totally agree.
I think the Dees are heading in the right direction too...
I don't see much progress at Bomberland.. Knights promised the world and has delivered very little... I don't think Sheedy would have done much worse...
T.Slatts isn't a KPD, Hurls will obviously spend time down back with Ryder and TBell rotating forward. Playing short in Adelaide again might seem like a reoccuring nightmare, but expect our midfield to cope better and our small forwards to feature predominantly.
This.
Side much more likely to line up like:
Hocking Hurley McVeigh
NLM Hooker Winders
Melksham Watson Jetta
Zaka Gumby Davey
Quinn Ryder Reimers
Bellchambers Stanton Welsh
Prismall Lonergan H.Slat T.Slat
Players rarely line up in positions they are named in these days.
Hurley to Tippet, T.Bell took a couple of good grabs up forward against Hawks and can rotate at f.forward with Paddy. McVeigh can take Porpos, Hooker first crack at Walker, NLM or Hocking to keep an eye on the dangerous Johncock. Guys in bold need (small forwards) to kick goals for us to be a chance.
It is going to be cold in Adelaide Saturday night (about 6 - 8 at game time I reckon, forecast is for a low of 4), therefore it will be greasy. Hopefully this will limit the impact of Walker and Tippett.
Honestly, if someone had've told you prior to the season we'd be playing Adelaide in Adelaide with Davis, Armstrong, Henderson, Sloan, Jaensch in their side, minus Bock, McLeod, Edwards, Burton you'd have jumped at it.
Yes, we have a couple of injuries that hurt, but the matchup is relatively even IMO. The only thing that will hurt us is the fact we rarely play with intensity outside of Melbourne, and never in Adelaide.
Totally agree.
I think the Dees are heading in the right direction too...
I don't see much progress at Bomberland.. Knights promised the world and has delivered very little... I don't think Sheedy would have done much worse...
You're comments are totally ignorant. Knights has had to redevelop our list and has done a great job of developing our younger players.
Our list is very young and our future looks very bright. We didn't have to bottom out like Melbourne did.
Melbourne has bottomed out the last fews year and has been able to nab some of the best talent around but they still sit behind us on the ladder.
Time will tell how good Brad Scott and Bailey end up being.
I'm not fixed on Knights being our saviour and his game plan is flawed but to deny the great job he has done with our list is an injustice.
Nasty Penguin
2 Jul 2010, 10:48
That's it. I've given up.
T.Slattery is the only decent inclusion this week..
Until Knights is shown the door... I expect absolutely nothing from the Dons...
30 years for supporting and membership for this rubbish. Sick of it.
Hope we have enough balls to nab Malthouse as coach. We have a solid list but no idea how to use it.
I'm crossing my fingers that we bottom out this year and take the spoon... that would actually make me happy.. think it's the wake up call we need...
North Melbourne, Richmond and Melbourne are far better coached than we are..
Too many people here are happy living in mediocracy..
I'm over it.
Malthouse as coach?? you gotta be kidding me. I'd rather have Terry Wallace come out of coaching retirement that have Malthouse coaching the bombers.
What you don't seem to understand, and you aren't alone either, is that the team has lost around 600 games experience from last year and are restructuring down back and up forward. Essendon's best is by far flag contending football but when our game is off we get exposed and look like a cellar dwelling side. Wins against the saints, dogs and hawks are all testament to when the game plan clicks we are unstoppable.
Getting game time into gumby, hurley and melksham as well as depth players like quinn, t.slats and belly is more what this year has been about. Yeah I'm upset too at some of the performances but there are way too many upsides than downsides to the bombers to want to change coaches.
We are screaming out for another high quality midfielder and a sweeping half back flanker and only trade week will decide if we fill those positions. Yes there are list cloggers aka hank, lonergan, houli, dyson but they'll all offer great value in trade week to hopefully bolster the list and prove the bombers as a force for the next decade.
I can understand why some people are a little upset by the way Knights has treated Houli.. but at the end of the day.. it doesn't really matter... we'll end up either trading or delisting him.. his future at the EFC is basically over...
He'll end up at other club, get the game time he deserves and become a better player as a result... eg. Teddy "The Bear" Richards...
We just need to face the facts.
Cause Richards has turned out to be such a gun player and all. :confused::confused::confused:
Mr Mojo Risin
2 Jul 2010, 11:08
LOL - Nasty Penguin Vs The Angry Bomber :D
Team looks ok all things considered. I think quinn will play up forward though, and reimers to play off half back. Hocking and Jetta both to get runs in the midfield, and lonergan to play a negating role on johncock.. otherwise knights might try henry in that role.. but probably not, i think that a bit too ... creative.. for knighter.
Duckworth
2 Jul 2010, 11:57
Quinn named on a back flank puts Henry Slattery starting on the bench.
I don't think they will start that way but I do think it was designed to send him a clear message.
Me too. You think Scott and Bailey are better coaches than Knights. ****ing come on.
If you don't think Quinn is up to it, may be you should be asking questions about our depth and Dodoro, not of the selection of Quinn who deserves elevation for reward.
Wasn't it Dodoro who wanted Barlow, and Knights opted for Hardingham:confused:
edstar10
2 Jul 2010, 12:14
lonergan is just there to give the members hope that they will get a game. if you spud it up all the time and have a terrible footy build you are still a chance to get a game at the bombers.
are you for real????, he is constantly putting his body on the line, he may not be the quickest but he has decent skills, a decent footy brain and he gives his heart and soul for the team, you obviously have never watched him play because i would pick lonergan in our side every week, comparing him to people who are not playing at this level, get a clue!!!
H. Slattery left the track early today and then returned to complete a fitness test. The test involved short to medium sprints and picking up the ball among other things, so it could be his hammy that is troubling him again.
Houli and Monfries were the only others not named in the 22 that trained so you would expect Houli to replace Slattery if he doesn't get up.
Stants also left the track mid-way through the session, but returned quickly and trained fine.
Hslatts and lonergan GTFO.
This. Give kids with some potential a game. These guys offer very little.
The House
2 Jul 2010, 13:46
Totally agree.
I think the Dees are heading in the right direction too...
I don't see much progress at Bomberland.. Knights promised the world and has delivered very little... I don't think Sheedy would have done much worse...
I don't think some people are really aware of just what condition Sheedy left our list in.
I don't think some people are really aware of just what condition Sheedy left our list in.
Spot on.
Duckworth
2 Jul 2010, 14:14
H. Slattery left the track early today and then returned to complete a fitness test. The test involved short to medium sprints and picking up the ball among other things, so it could be his hammy that is troubling him again.
Houli and Monfries were the only others not named in the 22 that trained so you would expect Houli to replace Slattery if he doesn't get up.
Stants also left the track mid-way through the session, but returned quickly and trained fine.
Thanks for the info :thumbsu:
HighettBomber
2 Jul 2010, 17:33
So you've been going along to VFL games and watching him play? Know the instructions he's been given when playing in the seniors? Know him personally?
Seriously, the love affair with Houli has to stop. He's currently a depth player and not the saviour of our midfield.
I've seen him play three times live and once on TV, he has been in the best hanful of players on the ground in every one of those games. I don't know what his instructions were but he got the ball a lot in every game, ran hard, went in hard, tackled well and disposed of it well, I assume the coaching staff are looking for all these things.
This has nothing to do with a love affair. He is simply a far better player than some of the crud that we keep playing, he also has potential to be a very good contributor unlike some others.
Crimsons
2 Jul 2010, 19:52
Pleased with the inclusion of Reimers & T Slattery. Not sold on the inclusion of Quinn, would rather have Howlett, Dyson, Myers, Houli, Williams ... Etc. This is a very important game, and playing Quinn seems a little questionable.
Continue to wonder what Lonergan & H Slattery have done in recent weeks to warrant their selection.
resurrector
3 Jul 2010, 02:23
H. Slattery left the track early today and then returned to complete a fitness test. The test involved short to medium sprints and picking up the ball among other things, so it could be his hammy that is troubling him again.
Houli and Monfries were the only others not named in the 22 that trained so you would expect Houli to replace Slattery if he doesn't get up.
Stants also left the track mid-way through the session, but returned quickly and trained fine.
if h.slatts is even the slightest bit iffy he cannot play. he's already slow enough without carrying a tight hammy. is gona be cold and possibly wet in adelaide tonight so we need 22 100% fit soldiers to take into battle...dyson or demps to come in as emergency for slatts.
Ben the Gooner
3 Jul 2010, 02:36
Should of picked Houli.
The Angry Bomber
3 Jul 2010, 08:18
You're comments are totally ignorant. Knights has had to redevelop our list and has done a great job of developing our younger players.
Our list is very young and our future looks very bright. We didn't have to bottom out like Melbourne did.
Melbourne has bottomed out the last fews year and has been able to nab some of the best talent around but they still sit behind us on the ladder.
Time will tell how good Brad Scott and Bailey end up being.
I'm not fixed on Knights being our saviour and his game plan is flawed but to deny the great job he has done with our list is an injustice.
Don't agree with that at all.
The Angry Bomber
3 Jul 2010, 08:22
Malthouse as coach?? you gotta be kidding me. I'd rather have Terry Wallace come out of coaching retirement that have Malthouse coaching the bombers.
What you don't seem to understand, and you aren't alone either, is that the team has lost around 600 games experience from last year and are restructuring down back and up forward. Essendon's best is by far flag contending football but when our game is off we get exposed and look like a cellar dwelling side. Wins against the saints, dogs and hawks are all testament to when the game plan clicks we are unstoppable.
Getting game time into gumby, hurley and melksham as well as depth players like quinn, t.slats and belly is more what this year has been about. Yeah I'm upset too at some of the performances but there are way too many upsides than downsides to the bombers to want to change coaches.
We are screaming out for another high quality midfielder and a sweeping half back flanker and only trade week will decide if we fill those positions. Yes there are list cloggers aka hank, lonergan, houli, dyson but they'll all offer great value in trade week to hopefully bolster the list and prove the bombers as a force for the next decade.
Cause Richards has turned out to be such a gun player and all. :confused::confused::confused:
So you don't rate Malthouse as a coach? Interesting.
Richards got his chance to play at Sydney.. at the Bombers he's a bit player getting less and than fair break.. Houli should ask to be traded..
Pocket_Pears
3 Jul 2010, 09:31
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/henry-slattery-doubt-for-essendon/story-e6frf9jf-1225887337994
ESSENDON could be forced into making a late change for the clash with Adelaide at AAMI Stadium after Henry Slattery appeared to injure his hamstring at training.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/henry-slattery-doubt-for-essendon/story-e6frf9jf-1225887337994
As bad as I feel for Henry, this can only be good for the team.
Dempsey or Houli to come in.
If we really want to win, must bring in Dempsey
Should have picked Houli.
ben, proper grammar please :D
but agree on the actual point
Skeeta Olly
3 Jul 2010, 10:24
Should of picked Houli.
Drunk.
If we really want to win, must bring in Dempsey
If it was out of Houli and Dempsey, I'd be hoping for Dempsey.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/henry-slattery-doubt-for-essendon/story-e6frf9jf-1225887337994
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/henry-slattery-doubt-for-essendon/story-e6frf9jf-1225887337994
As bad as I feel for Henry, this can only be good for the team.
Dempsey or Houli to come in.
Never wish an injury on a player but this is wonderful for the team. As long as he is made to earn his spot back in the side through the VFL meaning it takes him longer to get back in and might not even do so.
Doesn't bother me who comes in as both Houli and Dempsey would contribute positively to the side.
Good to see Tyson Slattery will play his first AFL game. :thumbsu:
But at Full Back? Isn't he a bit small to line up on either Walker or Tippett :confused:
Also really dissapointed to not see Williams or Dempsey in the team.
Slattery vs Tippett will not, could not happen.
Surely. It'll be Zac Dawson mark II.
Hes a couple cm shorter than walker and around 5kg lighter so big challenge, hooker to tippet is a good match up.
Not sure if you got it from afc website or not but Walker is actually 192cm and 97kg. AFC website hasnt updated height and weight for a while.