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In the first half yesterday he had 8 contested marks and kicked 5 goals. Imagine what he will be like in 2012 when he will be ready for the AFL.
A big positive for us after the debacle of last night. The kid is going to be an absolute monster. Apparently he had all the recruiters out of their seats yesterday. He was that exciting.
Can we father-son him early or do we have to wait until 2012?
Ludwig van Bertstare
4 Jul 2010, 13:58
The club are trying to find out if we can pick him up early so GWS don't.
The club are trying to find out if we can pick him up early so GWS don't.
Can't he just sit out ayear if he has to? Surely the AFL are not going to bend us over regarding this. GWS are getting well enough looked after. They shouldn't forget that their are 16 other clubs.
yodellinhank
4 Jul 2010, 16:19
He also has the choice to go to the Swans. Hopefully DD can get some games and cement a spot in the team, you would think that would increase the attraction of playing for Essendon... What's the story with DD at the moment?
He also has the choice to go to the Swans. Hopefully DD can get some games and cement a spot in the team, you would think that would increase the attraction of playing for Essendon... What's the story with DD at the moment?
I'd love to get some insight into this myself, from what I undertstand he has had some consisteny niggles throughout the year. You would think with the injuries and suspensions we have had down back and the poor form up forward he would have got a few opportunities.
Big Blow Hard
4 Jul 2010, 20:00
Is he from NSW? If the Father - Son thing is going to be taken from us somehow, can we loophole it and sign him on a NSW scholarship player (or whatever it is?) like Collingwood has done with some young blokes.
yodellinhank
4 Jul 2010, 21:08
Is he from NSW? If the Father - Son thing is going to be taken from us somehow, can we loophole it and sign him on a NSW scholarship player (or whatever it is?) like Collingwood has done with some young blokes.
Think he is captain of Vic Metro Under 16s and played his junior footy in the North West, so, no...
Dons eye 16-year-old Daniher
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dons-eye-16yearold-daniher-20100501-u0ba.html
The Bombers will seek clarification from the AFL this week on when they can commit to the 16-year-old, who could potentially be pinched by another club next year as part of Team GWS' complicated set of draft concessions.
We should do a Collingwood/Cloke thing and pick up Ned as a project player, just to get Joe across the line in 2012:
Joe could also knock back offers from both clubs and either get drafted by another team at age 17 next year, or take his chances in the 2012 draft. His older brother Ned is playing in the ruck for the Cannons as a 19-year-old this season.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dons-eye-16yearold-daniher-20100501-u0ba.html
That's if Darcy is still around by that stage...
Duckworth
5 Jul 2010, 12:42
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/97510/default.aspx
Joe Daniher, son of Essendon and Sydney Swans player Anthony Daniher, was best on ground for Vic Metro in its loss to South Australia, while Jack Viney, son of Melbourne's Todd Viney, was a standout for SA.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/97510/default.aspx
DVD Player
6 Jul 2010, 10:55
197 cm at 16. 197 divided by 16 = 12.31. So b 18, if he grows as much as he has been, he should be around 221.65 cm
Donakebab
6 Jul 2010, 11:06
197 cm at 16. 197 divided by 16 = 12.31. So b 18, if he grows as much as he has been, he should be around 221.65 cm
Maths: A
Science: F
HurleyLegend
6 Jul 2010, 11:12
Really excited about this kid
Giggidy Giggidy
6 Jul 2010, 11:14
197 cm at 16. 197 divided by 16 = 12.31. So b 18, if he grows as much as he has been, he should be around 221.65 cm
LOL... And by 30 he'll be 369.3cm! :D
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Jul 2010, 11:14
The AFL will find a way to screw us.
yodellinhank
6 Jul 2010, 14:59
The AFL will find a way to screw us.
I'm more worried about us screwing ourselves on this one. We only need Joe to want to play for Essendon...
indieswan96
6 Jul 2010, 15:07
I think you will get him we have Mitchell and Murphy to get as well. But if he wants to come to us who are we to say no.
It's great that we're linked with very promising talls, but what about midfielders? :(
It's great that we're linked with very promising talls, but what about midfielders? :(
Jake Long mate, and trust me, all will be forgiven.
stay true
6 Jul 2010, 17:35
It's great that we're linked with very promising talls, but what about midfielders? :(
I'll put a positive spin on it. If we're stock piling all this key position talent then some clubs are going to be lacking them and will be willing to trade midfielders for them.:p
197 cm at 16. 197 divided by 16 = 12.31. So b 18, if he grows as much as he has been, he should be around 221.65 cm
Maths: A
Science: F
Brilliant by both :thumbsu:
Jake Long mate, and trust me, all will be forgiven.
Are you on the wrong site :)
Is Jake Long a father/son or part of the extended Long clan.
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Jul 2010, 19:08
Are you on the wrong site :)
Is Jake Long a father/son or part of the extended Long clan.
Michael's son.
Michael's son.
Fantastic.
Is he a long term project? - In terms of age.
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Jul 2010, 19:48
He's only about 14.
bipolarbeaR
6 Jul 2010, 20:04
Making him illegal, can we do the draft in Thailand? We could take him this year.
Big Blow Hard
6 Jul 2010, 20:38
Michael's son.
As long as he hasn't been on the same diet as Dad.
bombermick
6 Jul 2010, 23:26
Seems we'll be competing with Sydney in the bidding process. Hopefully he chooses to stay home rather than going north. He and Viney are the two best 16-year olds in the country atm. It would be great to have some great midfield prospects coming through, but you can never have too many good KPP prospects.
Is he from NSW? If the Father - Son thing is going to be taken from us somehow, can we loophole it and sign him on a NSW scholarship player (or whatever it is?) like Collingwood has done with some young blokes.
Plays with Aberfeldie in the EDFL
Piss off Sheedy.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-out-to-snare-joe-daniher/story-e6frf9ix-1225889163880
GREATER Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy is refusing to surrender in the battle to snatch a Daniher from Essendon's clutches.
Donakebab
8 Jul 2010, 01:06
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-out-to-snare-joe-daniher/story-e6frf9ix-1225889163880
Daniher could choose Essendon or Sydney under the father-son rule, but appears set on Essendon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-out-to-snare-joe-daniher/story-e6frf9ix-1225889163880
Good to hear!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-out-to-snare-joe-daniher/story-e6frf9ix-1225889163880
"You can't let Essendon and the Swans have everything," Sheedy said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-out-to-snare-joe-daniher/story-e6frf9ix-1225889163880
WTF?! GWS and GC are getting absolutely everything and still want more. Sorry Sheeds I know you're doing your job and spruking your club, but GTFO!
**** off sheeds you prawn
Seems we'll be competing with Sydney in the bidding process. Hopefully he chooses to stay home rather than going north. He and Viney are the two best 16-year olds in the country atm. It would be great to have some great midfield prospects coming through, but you can never have too many good KPP prospects.
Played with him while his dad was skipper of melbourne and Assistant coach of Hawthorn. dead-set gun, got me a 6-goal haul one day. just sent it down my throat that day. kicked 3 himself
Pocket_Pears
8 Jul 2010, 08:47
Can someone explain the whole situation for me?
If he's eligible under Father/Son rule, we can take him with first round pick and no one else can get him, right? Or can GWS take him under the rule where they get to pick the best 17 yr old players the year before the draft?
Both Sydney and Essendon are eligible to take him under the father son rule.
Joe Daniher's choices will be to play for Essendon, play for Sydney or to go in to the draft.
If he chooses to play for Essendon, then we get to pick him up with our next pick after another club nominates they will take him if available in the 2012 draft. So Carlton says they want him first round pick 12, we get to take him with our next pick (be that first or second round), but if someone else, let's say GWS, says we'll take him with pick 1 (assuming they finish last in their inaugural year), we have to use our first pick.
GWS cannot pick him up this year as one of their 12 17 year olds, because he is still 16. The complication to the matter is this. GWS gets 4 picks to players who turn 17 in the first 4 months of next year available to them in the 2011 draft. GWS however, cannot use those picks, they can only trade them to another club for established players. So essentially 4 clubs will have exclusive picks of a group of 17 year olds (of which Daniher is included) in the 2011 draft.
We can prevent this happening if we nominate that we are taking him as a father son pick in the 2012 draft, prior to the 2011 draft, so long as he agrees.
For Sheedy to pick him up like he is saying he wants to, Joe has to decline offers from us and Sydney and nominate to go in the draft, then not be picked up as 1 of 4 17 year old picks in the 2011 draft, then GWS get him in the 2012 draft... Not very likely if he is so highly touted.
The Donners
8 Jul 2010, 09:34
Both Sydney and Essendon are eligible to take him under the father son rule.
Joe Daniher's choices will be to play for Essendon, play for Sydney or to go in to the draft.
If he chooses to play for Essendon, then we get to pick him up with our next pick after another club nominates they will take him if available in the 2012 draft. So Carlton says they want him first round pick 12, we get to take him with our next pick (be that first or second round), but if someone else, let's say GWS, says we'll take him with pick 1 (assuming they finish last in their inaugural year), we have to use our first pick.
GWS cannot pick him up this year as one of their 12 17 year olds, because he is still 16. The complication to the matter is this. GWS gets 4 picks to players who turn 17 in the first 4 months of next year available to them in the 2011 draft. GWS however, cannot use those picks, they can only trade them to another club for established players. So essentially 4 clubs will have exclusive picks of a group of 17 year olds (of which Daniher is included) in the 2011 draft.
We can prevent this happening if we nominate that we are taking him as a father son pick in the 2012 draft, prior to the 2011 draft, so long as he agrees.
For Sheedy to pick him up like he is saying he wants to, Joe has to decline offers from us and Sydney and nominate to go in the draft, then not be picked up as 1 of 4 17 year old picks in the 2011 draft, then GWS get him in the 2012 draft... Not very likely if he is so highly touted.
So we have very little chance of getting him?
TeamHurley
8 Jul 2010, 09:34
So it sounds like the AFL need to approve our request to nominate him as a FS pick and he needs to agree to it.
Someone over on BB says he is close to the Daniher family and that he is essendon through and through.
Pears, Hurley, Hooker, Gumbleton, J daniher, neagle, carlile, still.
Something to build the midfield arround over the next couple of years :thumbsu:
This kid will be a superstar, no doubt about it. I've watched him play quite a few games for Aberfeldie (my cousin plays there). If i remember correctly Justin Madden's son is also playing for the same team..
The Donners
8 Jul 2010, 09:46
So it sounds like the AFL need to approve our request to nominate him as a FS pick and he needs to agree to it.
Someone over on BB says he is close to the Daniher family and that he is essendon through and through.
Pears, Hurley, Hooker, Gumbleton, J daniher, neagle, carlile, still.
Something to build the midfield arround over the next couple of years :thumbsu:
Zaharakis, Myers, Colyer, Melksham, Prismall (yeah that's right! ;)) and Dangerfield (:D).
TeamHurley
8 Jul 2010, 09:53
Zaharakis, Myers, Colyer, Melksham, Prismall (yeah that's right! ;)) and Dangerfield (:D).
needs more boak :D
Bomberman86
8 Jul 2010, 10:06
maths: A
science: F
lol lol & lol
So we have very little chance of getting him?
No, we have a very good chance of getting him. If Joe wants to play for Essendon, and we are willing to use the necessary (presumably high) draft pick to take him, he will play for Essendon. We just need to get our act in to gear 12 months earlier than normal.
The Donners
8 Jul 2010, 10:34
No, we have a very good chance of getting him. If Joe wants to play for Essendon, and we are willing to use the necessary (presumably high) draft pick to take him, he will play for Essendon. We just need to get our act in to gear 12 months earlier than normal.
Sweet. I've yet to see him play but all this talk about him is making me feel funny in the pants! :o
bombermick
8 Jul 2010, 10:50
3 huge recruiting priorities for the next two years
1. Find (at least) one A-grade mid in this these year's trading period, as well as in the draft.
2. Signing Greg Inglis.
3. Moving heaven and earth to sign Joe Daniher, who one scribe has compared to Paul Salmon.
4. Telling Sheeds to keep his grubby paws to himself and that the Danihers belong at Windy Hill.
ghostdog
8 Jul 2010, 11:41
LOL... And by 30 he'll be 369.3cm! :D
Gold! :D
From what I have heard Joe wants to play at Essendon. The whole family are Essendon fans and it's his boyhood dream to play for him. We will have to give our first round pick for him but I believe it'll be worth it.
Prog Rocker
8 Jul 2010, 12:50
The way things are looking Joe Daniher wants to play for ESSENDON and we should get him.BUT i am now fully convinced that Sheedy has LOST HIS MIND.To say such a stupid comment like "We can't have Essendon and the Swans have everything" WHAT CRAP!! Last year the Gold Coast picked up 12 of the best 17 year olds from around the country,these kids would have been top 20 picks in this years draft and on top of that they get picks 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 and the FIRST pick in each other round! GWS get the same deal and have already picked their first 17 y.o. Tim Golds a 192cm Utility!
Now i know we've all know this for a long time,but i think it's just sinking in just how devestating this is going to be for the 2010 and 2011 Drafts for the other clubs.So if GWS and GCFC are not getting enough then we're screwed!
And to finish,did the WCE,FREO,PORT,ADEL get the same deal? I THINK NOT!.................:mad:
ghostdog
8 Jul 2010, 12:59
...did the WCE,FREO,PORT,ADEL get the same deal? I THINK NOT!.................:mad:
They are all from states where AFL is the dominant football code, though I see where you're coming from.
I doubt Daniher will go to GWS. He can go to the Swans easily but it looks like he has his heart set on Essendon (or at least staying in Melbourne). If he doesn't want to move to Sydney to play for his fathers old club why would he want to move to Sydney to play for a brand new club which he has no emotional attachment too.
Sheeds wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't try his darnest to get Joe. Good to hear that as long as we act on it, that we can get him under F/S though- stoked to see us getting a first rounder with an F/S pick!
He will goto Essendon guaranteed..
Is he really pick 1 material? Pretty early to say I guess.
But maybe we should ditch Hurbleton and save it for Gumbaniher?
Is he really pick 1 material? Pretty early to say I guess.
But maybe we should ditch Hurbleton and save it for Gumbaniher?
Still over a year from being draft age, plus how many kids under 16 would be his height? He probably has that sandilands effect going on. Having said that he can obviously mark and kick the ball and perform in big games too. At this stage he is a exciting prospect and I hope we get him, but he is still 4 years away from doing anything meaninful at AFL level.
DVD Player
8 Jul 2010, 18:06
Is he really pick 1 material? Pretty early to say I guess.
But maybe we should ditch Hurbleton and save it for Gumbaniher?
Read on the Herald Sun that he is indeed pick 1 material :D:D:D
I think he nominates a club (Essendon from what I read/hear) and then the bidding process goes on..
As far as the bidding process (I personally think it is flawed) goes:
1) 'Player X' nominates club.
2) Nominated club puts up price (potential draft pick [usually late round]).
3) Rival clubs try to 'out bid' nominated club.
4) If rival bids move to the first round, then 'player x' will go to nominated club as they cannot go any higher.
A case a couple of years ago (Western Bulldogs F/S prospect Ayce Cordy) was selected, St.Kilda (I think) said we will take him, the Bulldogs outbid them and said no we will use our first round pick, even though (i'm not sure if this is correct, may be wrong) the Bulldogs pick was higher, they still landed their man with their first round pick (pick # 14, i'm certain of this).
So their is high hopes of us landing Joe in all of this.. I think the main problem is avoiding him signing with GWS directly.. thus the Sheedy comments on Joe.
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 19:43
I think he nominates a club (Essendon from what I read/hear) and then the bidding process goes on..
As far as the bidding process (I personally think it is flawed) goes:
1) 'Player X' nominates club.
2) Nominated club puts up price (potential draft pick [usually late round]).
3) Rival clubs try to 'out bid' nominated club.
4) If rival bids move to the first round, then 'player x' will go to nominated club as they cannot go any higher.
A case a couple of years ago (Western Bulldogs F/S prospect Ayce Cordy) was selected, St.Kilda (I think) said we will take him, the Bulldogs outbid them and said no we will use our first round pick, even though (i'm not sure if this is correct, may be wrong) the Bulldogs pick was higher, they still landed their man with their first round pick (pick # 14, i'm certain of this).
So their is high hopes of us landing Joe in all of this.. I think the main problem is avoiding him signing with GWS directly.. thus the Sheedy comments on Joe.
So how exactly is the system flawed? :confused::confused:
So how exactly is the system flawed? :confused::confused:
A player is not rated highly in recruiting circles, yet 'club x' wants to pick them up, 'club y' can virtually force their hand by saying we will pick them up first and thus 'club x' (if they want them enough) say we will better that.
Over time, watch how many father son picks get drafted in the first round, purely by forced wreckoning.
That is how the system is flawed..
**NOTE: Recruited see enough of the kids to see who the good F/S kids are**
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 20:14
A player is not rated highly in recruiting circles, yet 'club x' wants to pick them up, 'club y' can virtually force their hand by saying we will pick them up first and thus 'club x' (if they want them enough) say we will better that.
Over time, watch how many father son picks get drafted in the first round, purely by forced wreckoning.
That is how the system is flawed..
**NOTE: Recruited see enough of the kids to see who the good F/S kids are**
I wrote a long winded reply but it was lost due to some sort of system upgrade so i will js say this. Your theory is so absurd it isn't even funny. Just think about what you are actually saying and then you will realise just how absurd it is. Cheers. :thumbsu:
I wrote a long winded reply but it was lost due to some sort of system upgrade so i will js say this. Your theory is so absurd it isn't even funny. Just think about what you are actually saying and then you will realise just how absurd it is. Cheers. :thumbsu:
Is it?
The aforementioned player Ayce Cordy was rated as a second possible third round pick, The bulldogs were forced to take him with their first round pick.
I don't know.
I'm interested to hear "your long response"?
Lance Uppercut
8 Jul 2010, 20:52
A player is not rated highly in recruiting circles, yet 'club x' wants to pick them up, 'club y' can virtually force their hand by saying we will pick them up first and thus 'club x' (if they want them enough) say we will better that.
Over time, watch how many father son picks get drafted in the first round, purely by forced wreckoning.
That is how the system is flawed..
**NOTE: Recruited see enough of the kids to see who the good F/S kids are**
if he's not worth what the rival club bids, and their bluff is called, they have to pick him.
It's not Russian Roulette. Clubs aren't taking stupid gambles.
The system is far better than that that allowed Geelong to grab Hawkins with a third round pick.
I am seriously going to say, if we don't get Joe Daniher, I am going to ****ing spew up
Ben the Gooner
8 Jul 2010, 20:54
I think he nominates a club (Essendon from what I read/hear) and then the bidding process goes on..
As far as the bidding process (I personally think it is flawed) goes:
1) 'Player X' nominates club.
2) Nominated club puts up price (potential draft pick [usually late round]).
3) Rival clubs try to 'out bid' nominated club.
4) If rival bids move to the first round, then 'player x' will go to nominated club as they cannot go any higher.
A case a couple of years ago (Western Bulldogs F/S prospect Ayce Cordy) was selected, St.Kilda (I think) said we will take him, the Bulldogs outbid them and said no we will use our first round pick, even though (i'm not sure if this is correct, may be wrong) the Bulldogs pick was higher, they still landed their man with their first round pick (pick # 14, i'm certain of this).
So their is high hopes of us landing Joe in all of this.. I think the main problem is avoiding him signing with GWS directly.. thus the Sheedy comments on Joe.
Sorry that's completely wrong.
In most cases the club is pretty straight forward, such as Ayce Cordy, because Brian Cordy only played 100 games for Footscray. Anthony Daniher played 100 for both Essendon and Sydney so it's more complicated.
Once the player has agreed to go to the club in question, other clubs are able to bid on him.
In 2007, Darcy Daniher nominated Essendon over Sydney, and North bid pick 32 on him. We then had the option of either using our next pick (pick 39) on him or declining, which means North would be compelled to pick him.
In 2008 (IIRC), Jaxson Barham was nominated as a F/S pick by Collingwood, but no other club bid on him, so he was picked up at the very end of Collingwood's draft.
In 2008, St Kilda bid pick 13 on Ayce Cordy, so the Bulldogs were obliged to use pick 14 if they wanted him.
In 2012, assuming Daniher nominates Essendon, GWS will bid their first pick for him, and we'll use our first rounder to pick him up.
Sorry that's completely wrong.
In most cases the club is pretty straight forward, such as Ayce Cordy, because Brian Cordy only played 100 games for Footscray. Anthony Daniher played 100 for both Essendon and Sydney so it's more complicated.
Once the player has agreed to go to the club in question, other clubs are able to bid on him.
In 2007, Darcy Daniher nominated Essendon over Sydney, and North bid pick 32 on him. We then had the option of either using our next pick (pick 39) on him or declining, which means North would be compelled to pick him.
In 2008 (IIRC), Jaxson Barham was nominated as a F/S pick by Collingwood, but no other club bid on him, so he was picked up at the very end of Collingwood's draft.
In 2008, St Kilda bid pick 13 on Ayce Cordy, so the Bulldogs were obliged to use pick 14 if they wanted him.
In 2012, assuming Daniher nominates Essendon, GWS will bid their first pick for him, and we'll use our first rounder to pick him up.
Good to have you back BtG
It wouldnt matter, from all reports, we would be getting a bargain any ways with a player (long term) rated as a top 3 - 5 pick at pick what? 112 - 18.
I dont mind that deal at all..
Ben the Gooner
8 Jul 2010, 21:02
Depends on where we finish. If we finish below any team that bids for him, we'd be able to use our second pick on him (assuming they use a first rounder on him).
Having said that, there's a fair chance that whoever finishes last will bid pick 1 for him.
table tennis
8 Jul 2010, 21:02
Ayce Cordy was touted as a top 5 pick at the time. Injuries have
prevented this kid making his mark.
Depends on where we finish. If we finish below any team that bids for him, we'd be able to use our second pick on him (assuming they use a first rounder on him).
Having said that, there's a fair chance that whoever finishes last will bid pick 1 for him.
Yeah, I agree..
I was just getting at the point that, a potential top 5 pick in our grasps at a lower pick than what he may be worth :D
Ben the Gooner
8 Jul 2010, 21:06
Yeah, I agree..
I was just getting at the point that, a potential top 5 pick in our grasps at a lower pick than what he may be worth :D
The system has ****ed us over so many times (imagine picking Selwood instead of Hislop) that we deserve a nice break like this.
The system has ****ed us over so many times (imagine picking Selwood instead of Hislop) that we deserve a nice break like this.
:thumbsu:
ive always wondered with the f/s rule. What happens if we trade our first +2nd rounder in that draft. Can we pick him up with our 3rd rounder as that would be a first pick?
i would have thought that would be the best way to get most value.
ive always wondered with the f/s rule. What happens if we trade our first +2nd rounder in that draft. Can we pick him up with our 3rd rounder as that would be a first pick?
i would have thought that would be the best way to get most value.
Good work Rusman
Throws a spanner into the works..
Maybe this year and the next couple of years is the perfect time to trade for that 'Gun midfielder'..
Especially if we have Joe signed, sealed and delivered perhaps?
ive always wondered with the f/s rule. What happens if we trade our first +2nd rounder in that draft. Can we pick him up with our 3rd rounder as that would be a first pick?
i would have thought that would be the best way to get most value.
I have thought about this also. However, I think it comes down to the fact that the bidding process for the potential father-son recruit occurs prior to trade week. Thus, whilst I don't have any evidence of this, I believe the process would stipulate whichever club "wins" the process (either the highest bidder or the father's club) must not trade that pick.
Something to build the midfield arround over the next couple of years :thumbsu:
And how long have we been saying that?
Since the cleanout in 2002? Heffernan, Blumfield, Caracella exodus?
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 22:49
Is it?
The aforementioned player Ayce Cordy was rated as a second possible third round pick, The bulldogs were forced to take him with their first round pick.
I don't know.
I'm interested to hear "your long response"?
Maybe on BigFooty mock drafts. In the real world he was rated as a first rounder hence StKilda nominating pick 13 for him. Do you really think that a club would potentially derail their whole draft just to try and screw over another club? It is a luicrous suggestion.
All of the picks under the new system have been close to the mark in terms of where the recruiters and experts rated them. This is a far cry from the old system where clubs could use their last picks on absolute guns. Would you prefer that system?
Joe Daniher is regarded as a top 5 pick (currently). We will have to use our first pick to get him. What is wrong with that? If he was no good, no club would nominate him just to spite us. Maybe we should have nominated our first pick for Jaxson Barham. That would have really showed Collingwood. ;)
Maybe on BigFooty mock drafts. In the real world he was rated as a first rounder hence StKilda nominating pick 13 for him. Do you really think that a club would potentially derail their whole draft just to try and screw over another club? It is a luicrous suggestion.
All of the picks under the new system have been close to the mark in terms of where the recruiters and experts rated them. This is a far cry from the old system where clubs could use their last picks on absolute guns. Would you prefer that system?
Joe Daniher is regarded as a top 5 pick (currently). We will have to use our first pick to get him. What is wrong with that? If he was no good, no club would nominate him just to spite us. Maybe we should have nominated our first pick for Jaxson Barham. That would have really showed Collingwood. ;)
I wasnt completely sure on all the details, more all here say on my details :o
That is what I was getting at though, clubs 'bidding' on a player just to spite the other clubs..
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 22:59
ive always wondered with the f/s rule. What happens if we trade our first +2nd rounder in that draft. Can we pick him up with our 3rd rounder as that would be a first pick?
i would have thought that would be the best way to get most value.
Good work Rusman
Throws a spanner into the works..
Sorry but that's impossible. All nominations are completed before trade week and any nominated picks cannot be traded. We will beparting with our 1st round pick for Daniher.
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 23:02
The system has ****ed us over so many times (imagine picking Selwood instead of Hislop) that we deserve a nice break like this.
Wasn't Jetta our priority pick?
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 23:08
I wasnt completely sure on all the details, more all here say on my details :o
That is what I was getting at though, clubs 'bidding' on a player just to spite the other clubs..
It aint ever gonna happen, mate. Clubs aren't that unproffessional.
It aint ever gonna happen, mate. Clubs aren't that unproffessional.
And clubs would never tank? Clubs would never rout the salary cap either?
Just makes me wonder :rolleyes:
SirJimi05
8 Jul 2010, 23:35
And clubs would never tank? Clubs would never rout the salary cap either?
Just makes me wonder :rolleyes:
You're still missing the point aren't you.
Spot the difference:
Club x tanks and ends up with the 2 best young guns in the country.
Club x cheats the cap so they can keep star midfielder on their list.
Club x manipulates father son rule just to get one up on a rival. They end up with a player they don't want, at an over inflated price but the rofl factor was worth it.
Which one is the odd one out?
You're still missing the point aren't you.
Spot the difference:
Club x tanking to secure a gun youngster
Club x cheating the cap to retain gun players
Club x manipulating father son rule ending up with a player they didnt want at an over inflated price just for the rofl we really showed them factor.
I got you now...
:o
Crimsons
8 Jul 2010, 23:38
Wasn't Jetta our priority pick?
Spot On
Crimsons
8 Jul 2010, 23:40
I got you now...
:o
LOL About time ... :)
Maybe on BigFooty mock drafts. In the real world he was rated as a first rounder hence StKilda nominating pick 13 for him. Do you really think that a club would potentially derail their whole draft just to try and screw over another club? It is a luicrous suggestion.
All of the picks under the new system have been close to the mark in terms of where the recruiters and experts rated them. This is a far cry from the old system where clubs could use their last picks on absolute guns. Would you prefer that system?
Joe Daniher is regarded as a top 5 pick (currently). We will have to use our first pick to get him. What is wrong with that? If he was no good, no club would nominate him just to spite us. Maybe we should have nominated our first pick for Jaxson Barham. That would have really showed Collingwood. ;)
Jimi
May not necessarily have to use our first pick - depending on our draft position.
We could have pick 4 - and would only have to use that Pick if teams with pick1,2 and 3 chose daniher, otherwise it goes to the next pick.
TeamHurley
9 Jul 2010, 08:44
It happened with Darcy didn't it? The roos picked him with an earlier pick which forced us to pick him up.
Jimi
May not necessarily have to use our first pick - depending on our draft position.
We could have pick 4 - and would only have to use that Pick if teams with pick1,2 and 3 chose daniher, otherwise it goes to the next pick.
But Sheedy has pick 1 LOL so he will do it just to p**s us off for shizzle !!!
End of the day you gotta be pretty happy that there is a good chance he will be touted as a pick between 1-5 and we can nab him in a compromised draft
It be nice to nab 2 young kids tho... :rolleyes:
Ben the Gooner
9 Jul 2010, 10:14
ive always wondered with the f/s rule. What happens if we trade our first +2nd rounder in that draft. Can we pick him up with our 3rd rounder as that would be a first pick?
i would have thought that would be the best way to get most value.
No, because the bidding is done pre-trade week.
In 2007, we couldn't have traded pick 39.
But Sheedy has pick 1 LOL so he will do it just to p**s us off for shizzle !!!
End of the day you gotta be pretty happy that there is a good chance he will be touted as a pick between 1-5 and we can nab him in a compromised draft
It be nice to nab 2 young kids tho... :rolleyes:
This is the 2012 draft, not 2011. Sheedy will only have pick 1 if they come last in their inaugural year, and it will not be compromised.
This is the 2012 draft, not 2011. Sheedy will only have pick 1 if they come last in their inaugural year, and it will not be compromised.
ah yes........how silly of me they will get draft picks next year my bad.....:)
I was just on a Swans forum and some suggested there that Essendon have a tough decision to make in regards to Joe Daniher as you will need to use a 1st round draft pick to secure him and even though he appears to be a very good potential player Essendon really need midfeilders and don't really need a young KP player as you already have Hurley, Pears, Gumbleton, Bellchambers and Hooker not to mention Joe's brother who can't get a game at the moment.
I was just wondering what Essendon fans thoughts on this issue were?
Ludwig van Bertstare
12 Jul 2010, 19:11
Non issue. We will take him no matter what.
You don't pass on top 3 talent.
Phat Toni
12 Jul 2010, 19:16
I was just on a Swans forum and some suggested there that Essendon have a tough decision to make in regards to Joe Daniher as you will need to use a 1st round draft pick to secure him and even though he appears to be a very good potential player Essendon really need midfeilders and don't really need a young KP player as you already have Hurley, Pears, Gumbleton, Bellchambers and Hooker not to mention Joe's brother who can't get a game at the moment.
I was just wondering what Essendon fans thoughts on this issue were?
Best available > than positional picking
Towno78
12 Jul 2010, 19:24
I was just on a Swans forum and some suggested there that Essendon have a tough decision to make in regards to Joe Daniher as you will need to use a 1st round draft pick to secure him and even though he appears to be a very good potential player Essendon really need midfeilders and don't really need a young KP player as you already have Hurley, Pears, Gumbleton, Bellchambers and Hooker not to mention Joe's brother who can't get a game at the moment.
I was just wondering what Essendon fans thoughts on this issue were?
Since it is the 2012 draft in question, we will have 2 additional first round midfielders plus others on our list, so perhaps our need for midfielders won't be so dire by then.
Hirdman
12 Jul 2010, 19:56
Howdy,
Is this Darcy's brother? was this that Daniher that was the top class fencer? I thought he had taken up football late and looked pretty average - same Dainher??
Ludwig van Bertstare
12 Jul 2010, 20:23
Howdy,
Is this Darcy's brother? was this that Daniher that was the top class fencer? I thought he had taken up football late and looked pretty average - same Dainher??
Yes, and Ned was the top class fencer. He's eligible this year.
Hirdman
12 Jul 2010, 20:27
Yes, and Ned was the top class fencer. He's eligible this year.
Thanks
$10 says we draft (perhaps rookie) Ned to get Joe.
AndyLesPaul
25 Jul 2010, 14:47
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98937/default.aspx
ESSENDON may be keen on securing exciting youngster Joe Daniher, the son of Essendon full back Anthony, but they will have to fight off the interest of Team GWS.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98937/default.aspx
"He (Daniher) is one of the best young players in Australia in that age group and there are three alternatives and whoever ends up bottom in the year of that draft will get him or Sydney or Essendon will," Sheedy said.
If we want him, you aren't getting him Sheeds. No ****ing way.
Wait, does this mean under the rules, that GWS can draft him and we can't FS him?
Prog Rocker
25 Jul 2010, 15:05
Essendon can F/S Joe Daniher still,i wouldn't worry too much about what Sheedy/GWS says about talking to him.Joe has said he wants to play for the Essendon Football Club AND he is already part of the JAMES HIRD ACADEMY at Windy Hill.
windyhill
25 Jul 2010, 15:18
Go away sheedy.
Duckworth
25 Jul 2010, 16:12
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98937/default.aspx
I wonder how much Sheedy will try to screw us.
AndyLesPaul
25 Jul 2010, 16:29
Sheedys Plan:
Draft Ned and Trade for Darcy
Get A.Daniher as an assistant coach
Defs.
whats_at_stake
25 Jul 2010, 16:56
So under F/S if we were to both nominate him- normally we use our last pick but if Sheeds also nominates say a first rounder then we have to use second round? Is this correct?
So under F/S if we were to both nominate him- normally we use our last pick but if Sheeds also nominates say a first rounder then we have to use second round? Is this correct?
If GWS finish lower than us and nominate a 1st rounder we have to use our first rounder, if they finish higher *cough* and nominate their first rounder, and no team below us nominate their, we only have to use a 2nd rounder.