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richskee
7 Jul 2010, 12:03
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Yes the most anticipated film of 2010 is just around the corner fellas. JULY 22nd also showing at IMAX around Australia.
I love the concept of the film and in a way I believe Nolan has been building toward this film throughout his career, judging by it's ambitious nature. When I saw the trailer for the first time, I thought of two words: MIND PORN
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Feels like a top 10 film already. :eek:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Early-Inception-Reviews-Call-It-The-Year-s-Best-Movie-19424.html
Looks awesome, cannot wait for this.
Invigoration
7 Jul 2010, 15:07
Reviews (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/thread/165472720?p=1)
25 positive and 0 negative so far. The worst I've read gave it a 7/10 and was still mostly complimentary about it.
Nolan's done it again! Can't wait to see it.
Yeah reviews are ridiculously good. Definitely need to go ahead and watch this one early.
Shinboner '07
7 Jul 2010, 16:59
looks confusing as ****... ill watch it though coz of Nolan and the good cast
RobbyRoy
7 Jul 2010, 21:02
Still 2 full weeks 'til we get it, gonna be a rough wait.
Tiger Fury #3
7 Jul 2010, 21:22
I'm counting the days. 100% on Rotten Tomatoes so far, granted its only had 8 reviews, but an average rating of 9 and with complinents such as "masterpiece", "miracle" and "the most entertaining film seen in years" I can't see it being anything short of spectacular.
flight23
8 Jul 2010, 01:25
im gonna stop reading reviews
sounds to good to be true
Rod Stroker
8 Jul 2010, 02:33
Reviews (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/thread/165472720?p=1)
25 positive and 0 negative so far. The worst I've read gave it a 7/10 and was still mostly complementry about it.
Nolan's done it again! Can't wait to see it.
They must be from closed advanced screenings as it's not released anywhere in the world until next week and no torrents up yet.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/releaseinfo
Spudregus_87
9 Jul 2010, 22:10
Nolan, DiCaprio, Page & Gordon-Levitt
I'm in :D
The trailer looks great. Something I'd happily hand over my $17 for.
drummond2fevola
9 Jul 2010, 22:14
They must be from closed advanced screenings as it's not released anywhere in the world until next week and no torrents up yet.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/releaseinfo
Critics see and review every movie before it comes out.
Anyways, RottonTomatoes still has it on 100% after 15 reviews.
GET PUMPED
http://au.rottentomatoes.com/m/1217219-inception/
red+black
14 Jul 2010, 13:50
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Midnight at IMAX next Wednesday. I'm going at 7pm on the Thursday.
HigginsHawk
15 Jul 2010, 17:41
I have a free double pass to give away. It is for the media screening in Sydney.
One double pass for you and a friend to see Inception at Event Cinemas at 505 George St, Sydney on Wednesday July 21st.
Please find attached your e-ticket to attend this special advanced screening.
Please remember to print off this e-ticket and bring a valid form of ID to the cinema entrance. Without either of these you will be refused entry.
The screening will commence at 6.30pm sharp so make sure you arrive early to claim a good seat
I will forward the email to the first person to pm me that can genuinely use the tickets. They cannot be resold as organisation will need your name and you will need id to get in.
Tiger Fury #3
15 Jul 2010, 18:26
Don't make the same mistake i did and go on the IMDb board for it, some muppet had a seemingly MAJOR spoiler in the thread title.
HigginsHawk
15 Jul 2010, 19:24
Tickets gone, thanks to those that enquired and apologies to those that missed out.
Vendrell
20 Jul 2010, 22:16
Saw it today. Excellent movie. I think the people who are saying it's a confusing mindf*ck are way off the mark. Everything's pretty straight forward and explained so well which is what makes it great.
It reminds me a lot of Back To The Future part 2 where all the different timelines are happening simultaneously and what happens in one timeline affects the others. Except with Inception it's levels of consciousness instead of timelines. What happens in one place affects the others. Pretty straight forward. The narrative is very tight.
Nolan's getting better at shooting action sequences. He pulls the camera back and it's easier to see what's going on than in his previous films. Shoot outs are very reminiscent of Heat (actually the whole thing has a similar feel seeing as it's a heist movie). He's also a lot better with female characters and love story this time. I felt that with both Batman movies you could've removed the Rachel character and it wouldn't have made much difference to the story. Completely the opposite with Inception.
Tom Hardy is a superstar. Hopefully the new Mad Max turns out good because he's very cool in this.
Macca19
20 Jul 2010, 23:08
Cant wait to see this one!
bresker
21 Jul 2010, 09:29
****Many Spoilers Alert******
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****Many Spoilers Alert******
I enjoyed the start and end of this movie.
Old Dog's Mess Leonardo Di Caprio leads a crack team of people who go inside your dreams and mess around with them for a fee.
He needs an extra recruit so he gets the girl out of Juno. Last time she was playing a pregnant sixteen year old. Now she's playing a genius architecture undergraduate who looks about twelve years old, I felt like a paedo every time she came on screen.
Irishman Cillian Murphy is a humourless Aussie in this movie.
Michael Caine has a pointless cameo as Di Caprio's dad. He has maybe five lines. He could have youtubed his performance in, if he happened to live near an airport departure lounge & a lecture theatre, the locations of his two scenes.
I recognized most of the other actors but couldn't name them.
Her out of Juno is recruited to build architecture in dreams. Di Caprio's gang enter people's minds and nick industrial secrets by taking loads of drugs and wiring themselves up to machines.
Only on this mission, they have to enter Cillian Murphy's mind and make him divide up his late fathers business into many small parts, at the behest of a Japanese rival businessman. So the Japanese fella can win at business.
A bit like the boss of Coles persuading the boss of Woolworth/Safeway to divide up groceries and clothing and furnishings and stationary into different stores.
(I don't know why they need to enter his dreams to do this, I could have given it a decent shot with a PowerPoint session and a night at a lapdancing club.)
So the gang enters his dreams to persuade him to do so.
The very disappointing thing about all this, is that these subconscious noodlings just involve many sequences of Bruce Willis/007 action happenings. Lots of bang bang, shoot shoot , things crashing into things, things falling off things in industrial landscapes.
Because it's the subconscious some basic laws of physics are mildly affected - things happen more slowly and there's the odd fight in midair. Didn't we see that in 'The Matrix'?
But the filmmakers had the entire weight of Holywood CGI to create a dreamworld.
Where's the melting clocks?
Where's the slicing up eyeballs, uh uh ho ho?
In short, the dreamworld is just endless gun battles. Where's the fantasy element? N-one's dreams are endless gun battles, not even Jean Claude Van Damme's. Where's the surreality?
Old Juno-bake may be called Ariadne, but there's nothing here to compete with the terrifying genius fables the Greeks created 3,000 years ago, with their beautiful seductive white bulls and half-man, half-creatures and the nine-yearly sacrifice of virgins.
Just lots of explosions. Like, storming the fortress of someone's subconscious involves storming an actual fortress. It's a very literal dreamworld.
The denouement is better, where Di Caprio and Juno go into a collapsing dreamy city in the manner of Douglas Coupland's Girlfriend in a Coma to get to heart of the former's marital problems.
But overall, it's an opportunity missed.
6/10.
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RobbyRoy
21 Jul 2010, 20:26
Where'd you fellas see it already?
Fortunatley I have not read any of bresker's post except for the spoiler alerts at the top, but FFS go with the white text, highlight to reveal!
bresker
21 Jul 2010, 23:54
Sorry, I'm a beginner at this movie review business. White text added, highlight to reveal.
I saw the movie here in Europe, one of the advantages I suppose.
Mclovin07
22 Jul 2010, 16:40
Sorry, I'm a beginner at this movie review business. White text added, highlight to reveal.
I saw the movie here in Europe, one of the advantages I suppose.
Were you also drunk? That was the worst review of a movie I've ever read.
I saw it today and thought it was incredible. Admittedly it wasn't perfect, but the good far outweighed the bad.
bresker
22 Jul 2010, 17:40
Drunk? It is a very stupid movie pretending to be intelligent.
Jut cause you said I was drunk & my review was bad I am removing two points.
it's now a 4/10 movie instead of 6/10.
RustyHawk
22 Jul 2010, 17:56
Saw this today at the big Vmax @ Knox...lovely.
Somebody mentioned this is bit like Back to the Future 2. With this film thats like comparing life and learning in a Primary School as opposed to a University. Both are in the Education system but one is so much more than the basics of Primary school.
Chris Nolan has taken what he had developed with Mememto and gone wayyyy deeper adding a more than a few layers and cross sections to a plot that leaves you scrambling to keep up much less try and take in so much so that when you arrive at the 2nd last scene you are suddenly jolted back to - O, yeah, I forgot about that, that you think back to what just happened and happened and I could go on.
It is only now thinking about the film that I get the opening sequence..(doh me) [spoiler] The people rioting down the street heading to their location.
The special effects are stunning, the CGI brilliant. We have all seen that part where the City lifts up, brilliant.
I feel like I have traveled to a new world and the experience has left me exhausted. I'm not so sure I enjoyed it whilst I watching the movie but having time to reflect is sure an advantage.
Notorious_29
22 Jul 2010, 17:59
Going to see it tonight, can't wait, my mate saw it today and sent me this text. "Inception was a bigger and better mind **** than Shutter Island, 9/10.".
richskee
22 Jul 2010, 18:38
Saw it today and TBH slightly dissapointed.
I think the crazy IMDB ratings is nothing more than pack mentality just like the Dark Knight.
On to the film.... I went in expecting Blade Runner and 30 minutes in thats what I thought I was getting. Cinema photography was excellent but the biggest fault for me was time. It's such a deep thinking film that 110 minutes in I was honestly getting exhausted and the whole snow scene just took far too long. Inception just like Dark Knight could of shaved 40 minutes off the film, I'm not sure why Nolan persists with such long films when they clearly don't need to be. For me the subject matter became repetitive and nothing new was happening, which really caused the film to dwindle away. Although some of the visionary craft is out of this world, Inception for me was well over written.
I watched it with one of my old film school mates and we both had the same opinion.
7/10
dr nick
22 Jul 2010, 19:00
Huge mind ****. I pretty much had no idea what was going on for 3/4 of that movie and it's a real mental challenge keeping up with the plot. Only at the end of the movie did all the beginning make sense.
Some of the twisting the laws of physics was pretty good, but there's a good solid hour of this movie jumping from explosions and dodging bullets - which is far too long. And what's with this genius architect being 14 years old.. wtf? Thought the movie was turning a corner with the introduction of Michael Caine, but he lasted what, 5 minutes?
Anyway, it's worth checking out, but not seeing twice. If you have to go to the toilet half way through this movie it will be a complete waste of time watching.
bresker
22 Jul 2010, 19:51
Huge mind ****. I pretty much had no idea what was going on for 3/4 of that movie and it's a real mental challenge keeping up with the plot. Only at the end of the movie did all the beginning make sense.
Some of the twisting the laws of physics was pretty good, but there's a good solid hour of this movie jumping from explosions and dodging bullets - which is far too long. And what's with this genius architect being 14 years old.. wtf? Thought the movie was turning a corner with the introduction of Michael Caine, but he lasted what, 5 minutes?
Anyway, it's worth checking out, but not seeing twice. If you have to go to the toilet half way through this movie it will be a chttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gifomplete waste of time watching.
:thumbsu: I HATED the snow scene. It was completely pointless. Like, nice visuals for the first five minutes, but cmon it's a dream. I want more.
RobbyRoy
22 Jul 2010, 21:59
:thumbsu: I HATED the snow scene. It was completely pointless. Like, nice visuals for the first five minutes, but cmon it's a dream. I want more.
I loved it. The score during the whole snow section was phenomenal. In fact the score during the whole movie was as good as any I've heard in a while.
I really don't know what to think about it on the whole. Some parts were brilliant, others were just confusing. Technically it was awesome and the acting was great but I think I'm going to have to see it again.
dr nick
22 Jul 2010, 22:02
The snow scene was just frustrating. Watching bullets zip past and planting explosives for an entire 20 minutes. I guess it simulated the 3 seconds of real time for the van to hit the water.
The score isn't really something I pay attention to whilst watching these types of movies tbh.
flight23
22 Jul 2010, 23:33
best movie ive seen in years
Notorious_29
23 Jul 2010, 00:55
Christopher Nolan you are a genius. Great film.
Nolan tried to make an action block buster out of a script and concept that didn't really need it.
good flick but some more character exploration would have been nice. Gordon-Levitt is just the guy who's there, who didn't want to do it in the first place, was given an option to leave but doesn't for no reason what so ever. Page wants out but decides not too, suddenly is hugely concern for Di Caprio and learns a **** load abound inception and extraction in an incredibly short period of time between scenes.
It would have been nice to learn something about these characters during the movie, because during the "tense" and "suspenseful" scenes I didn't give a flying if anyone lived or died as I had no way of relating to them what so ever
bresker
23 Jul 2010, 01:37
I thought of a film to compare it to: as an attempt to lead you down blind alleys & f**k with your conception:
The Usual Suspects.
It's not half as good as that masterpiece.
flight23
23 Jul 2010, 01:45
I thought of a film to compare it to: as an attempt to lead you down blind alleys & f**k with your conception:
The Usual Suspects.
It's not half as good as that masterpiece.
yeah thought of usual suspects a bit, and for some reason fight club as well
but the scenes where juno was in training were freaking unbelievable
i saw it at imax and that 5 min scene looked unbelievable, not sure how it would of looked at a normal cinema
buzzbuzz
23 Jul 2010, 03:10
Loved the movie. Review here (http://controlex.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/reviews-inception/).
Saw this today at the big Vmax @ Knox...lovely.
I saw it at Knox City VMax too! Did you find the sound mix to be a little weird? I mentioned it in my review, but the score kept overwhelming the dialog to a pretty extreme degree.
sherrinorburley
23 Jul 2010, 07:37
Saw this today at the big Vmax @ Knox...lovely.
Somebody mentioned this is bit like Back to the Future 2. With this film thats like comparing life and learning in a Primary School as opposed to a University. Both are in the Education system but one is so much more than the basics of Primary school.
Chris Nolan has taken what he had developed with Mememto and gone wayyyy deeper adding a more than a few layers and cross sections to a plot that leaves you scrambling to keep up much less try and take in so much so that when you arrive at the 2nd last scene you are suddenly jolted back to - O, yeah, I forgot about that, that you think back to what just happened and happened and I could go on.
It is only now thinking about the film that I get the opening sequence..(doh me) [spoiler] The people rioting down the street heading to their location.
The special effects are stunning, the CGI brilliant. We have all seen that part where the City lifts up, brilliant.
I feel like I have traveled to a new world and the experience has left me exhausted. I'm not so sure I enjoyed it whilst I watching the movie but having time to reflect is sure an advantage.
Watched it last night, agree with your summary. I liked Memento too.
Cast is perfect.
8/10
dr nick
23 Jul 2010, 09:42
I thought of a film to compare it to: as an attempt to lead you down blind alleys & f**k with your conception:
The Usual Suspects.
It's not half as good as that masterpiece.
That mind**** only comes at the end of the movie. I didn't spend 3/4 of that thinking wtf is going on?!?! :eek:
Crash is another movie where they leave the plot near the end.
McLeodMagic
23 Jul 2010, 09:51
Watched it at IMAX last night and some of the scenes left me gobsmacked. Unbelievable film, Christopher Nolan is a genius. It wasn't that much of a mind**** as well, pretty easy to follow because it was well explained.
Very tempted to go see it again! :thumbsu:
I saw it at Knox City VMax too! Did you find the sound mix to be a little weird? I mentioned it in my review, but the score kept overwhelming the dialog to a pretty extreme degree.
Nope, the sound was fine in my viewing.
Epic movie.
ManWithNoName
23 Jul 2010, 15:36
Outstanding movie. The plot was complex but I managed to follow it all the way through and the payoff was well worth it.
I'll admit to being a little bit excited everytime Cillian Murphy was on screen too.
Outstanding movie. The plot was complex but I managed to follow it all the way through and the payoff was well worth it.
I'll admit to being a little bit excited everytime Cillian Murphy was on screen too.
This.
As long as you follow the dialogue it's relatively simple to comprehend.
This movie left me gobsmacked and I'll definitely be seeing it again, truly amazing film.
Di Caprio is one hell of an actor and Nolan is simply genius- amazing concept.
ams4crows
23 Jul 2010, 17:49
Saw it last night! was INSANE!! at times I couldn't beleive what I was seeing!
really enjoyed it and followed the plot well!
blues4flag
23 Jul 2010, 19:42
Watched it today. Very good, didn't find it as great as made out to be. Agree that there was too much action where it wasn't needed.
Anyone get a lot of Shutter Island with Leonardo unable to forget his wife?
ManWithNoName
24 Jul 2010, 12:49
Now I've recovered from the mindf**k, I'll try and post a more eloquent, spoiler free, review.
Outstanding movie. It's a movie where you definitely need to be paying attention all the time as everything is moving the plot forward in some way. Even things that appear to be pure character development come up later on, sometimes in a big way. If you can keep up though it's a gripping story, even made me drop my bag of M&Ms at one point. It avoids the cliche of twists and turns, but it just keeps taking you places you don't expect it to, and even when you do expect it, it still feels like something fresh.
Leo continues his reign of dominating quality cinema with yet another outstanding performance. Seriously, is there anything this bloke can't do? Have a look at the movies his company's been producing. The guy's a god.
Rest of the cast is outstanding, as you'd expect. Real surprise for me, having not seen (500) Days of Summer, was Joseph Gordon-Levitt. For so long I would've just thought of him as "that guy from 3rd Rock". But here's he's fantastic. He's definitely made my List (the list of actors who I'll go see a film purely because they're in it). Others like Ken Watanabe and Marion Cotillard put in the great performances you'd expect. Ellen Page carries on with her rise, very solid here. And I've already admitted that anytime Cillian Murphy was onscreen, I just watched him.
Visual effects are fantastic, but not in a "oh look how good the special effects are" kind of way. Obviously being a movie about dreams there's a lot of crazy stuff happening at times, but an interesting fact is this movie actually has LESS visual effect shots than Batman Begins, Nolan prefers doing as much physically as he can, which really helps not distract from the reality of the story.
Overall, I only had one disappointment about the film. Too much action. It feels like he put in too many action sequences when the story and the characters would've been more than enough. Particularly in the final 20 minutes or so. I would've been much happier if it's just played out with some more character driven stuff, especially with Cillian Murphy's and Leo's characters. One can't help but feel Cillian was under utilised in the final 20 minutes of the film.
Apart from that though, the movie's fantastic. Very Chris Nolan. Now watch it not win a single Oscar.
Notorious_29
24 Jul 2010, 12:53
Agreed re. Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Highlight to reveal ---> The scene's towards the end where he was stuck in no-gravity were fantastic, and he pulled that shiny vest off :p
jonoman89
24 Jul 2010, 14:50
AMAZING movie. One of the most original plots ever. Pulled off to perfection.
Will be a cult classic for a very long time i feel.
Chris25
24 Jul 2010, 15:23
It was OK. Nothing special or ground breaking in my opinion, but not bad for what it was. The acting was very good, which probably saved it I feel.
I do have one question though, so don't highlight the following if you want to avoid spoilers. It's probably an obvious thing that I missed, but anyway....
How did DiCaprio and Page find Murphy's character at the end? He was killed, so went to limbo. And then DiCaprio and Page went to find him and bring him back.
But they did that by entering a fourth dream level, not by entering limbo itself. What they entered was just DiCaprio's version of limbo, based on his memories of before. So wouldn't the version of Murphy's character that they found have just been a projection/memory, like the dead wife was?
Because in order to find the Japanese guy, DiCaprio did actually die and entered the real limbo. Which is what should have happened in order to find Murphy I would have thought...
That's it for spoilers. :)
ManWithNoName
24 Jul 2010, 15:33
Murphy's character didn't die. He just went into another dream level. So Cobb and Ariadne go to get him, and she throws him off the building to give him the "kick" he needs to wake up in the snow dream. Cobb then stays behind, dies in that dream, so he can go to limbo, get Saito (Wantanabe's character) and then go all the way back up with him so he doesn't die.
That's how I figure it at least. Knowing Nolan though, I wouldn't hold your breath for an explanation though.
Notorious_29
24 Jul 2010, 17:41
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blues4flag
24 Jul 2010, 17:50
The url doesn't work, Notorious.
Notorious_29
24 Jul 2010, 17:52
The url doesn't work, Notorious.
That's strange seems to work for me.
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Chris25
24 Jul 2010, 18:00
Don't click on this link if you haven't seen the movie. I couldn't get it to hide using the spoiler tags, so just ignore it.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/An-Illustrated-Guide-To-The-5-Levels-Of-Inception-19643.html
So, basically the general consensus is that you can only go into three dream levels. The next level down is limbo. That doesn't really explain why Cobb was killed by the projection of his dead wife, and then ended up on the beach again. Because if you die in limbo, you should apparently return/wake up.
I think it could be a case of not looking too deep into things. I didn't find the movie to be as amazing as others, which is probably why I'm stuck on this.
Freakie
24 Jul 2010, 23:20
Great movie, not much to say that already hasn't been. The ending was brilliant.
Wahooti Fandango
24 Jul 2010, 23:27
A few questions. How does the top behave in 'reality' if there is one? Also, I thought it was designed to differentiate between dreams created by one self and dreams created by others and not between 'dream' and 'reality'? How does the spin of the top differ in someone else's dream (not Cobb's) and in 'reality'?
ObaMartins
25 Jul 2010, 00:01
Amazing movie. Agree with the others that perhaps a little less action more character development. Can't really complain though. Best movie I have seen this year.
8/10, brilliant. Can't wait to watch it again.
crowsarethebest
25 Jul 2010, 00:53
Absolutely amazing. Will go on to be a classic I reckon. Biggest mind-**** I have received, the concept is so fresh and amazingly original. Couldn't have been a better ending either.
samwise
25 Jul 2010, 12:44
Saw it last night. Was bloody awesome. Was so impressed by the concept. Easily best movie I've seen this year.
Awesome special effects and action scenes.
Narrative was brilliant. Always felt a step behind yet still keeping up with everything. Best thrillers are always like that.
Acting was also very good.
Spudregus_87
26 Jul 2010, 03:55
Now I've recovered from the mindf**k, I'll try and post a more eloquent, spoiler free, review.
Outstanding movie. It's a movie where you definitely need to be paying attention all the time as everything is moving the plot forward in some way. Even things that appear to be pure character development come up later on, sometimes in a big way. If you can keep up though it's a gripping story, even made me drop my bag of M&Ms at one point. It avoids the cliche of twists and turns, but it just keeps taking you places you don't expect it to, and even when you do expect it, it still feels like something fresh.
Leo continues his reign of dominating quality cinema with yet another outstanding performance. Seriously, is there anything this bloke can't do? Have a look at the movies his company's been producing. The guy's a god.
Rest of the cast is outstanding, as you'd expect. Real surprise for me, having not seen (500) Days of Summer, was Joseph Gordon-Levitt. For so long I would've just thought of him as "that guy from 3rd Rock". But here's he's fantastic. He's definitely made my List (the list of actors who I'll go see a film purely because they're in it). Others like Ken Watanabe and Marion Cotillard put in the great performances you'd expect. Ellen Page carries on with her rise, very solid here. And I've already admitted that anytime Cillian Murphy was onscreen, I just watched him.
Visual effects are fantastic, but not in a "oh look how good the special effects are" kind of way. Obviously being a movie about dreams there's a lot of crazy stuff happening at times, but an interesting fact is this movie actually has LESS visual effect shots than Batman Begins, Nolan prefers doing as much physically as he can, which really helps not distract from the reality of the story.
Overall, I only had one disappointment about the film. Too much action. It feels like he put in too many action sequences when the story and the characters would've been more than enough. Particularly in the final 20 minutes or so. I would've been much happier if it's just played out with some more character driven stuff, especially with Cillian Murphy's and Leo's characters. One can't help but feel Cillian was under utilised in the final 20 minutes of the film.
Apart from that though, the movie's fantastic. Very Chris Nolan. Now watch it not win a single Oscar.
All of this :thumbsu:
Ah-mazing!! Definite Film of the Year in my opinion :thumbsu:
I knew after 'The Dark Knight' that Nolan was an exceptional director, but after watching Inception, that point just got driven home further! Such an original story, revolved around a concept that I'm surprised hasn't been used before.
The casting was second to none. I don't think you could assemble a more impressive list of young actors for any other project. Add to that, their roles as sub-conscious information extractors were so believeable, to the point where I left the cinema thinking; 'could this be real?' which was similar to what I felt after watching the Matrix.
More specifically on Di Caprio, I don't think there's a better actor going around at the present time than him; just so believable in every role he plays, while Gordon-Levitt and Page continue their rise (still haven't seen 500 days) :o.
The chase scenes, when coupled with incredible scores (that's assumed with Hans Zimmer :)) had my heart racing, whilst giving me the impression that this those particular chase scenes were more important than the ones I'd seen in movies before.
Could easily fork out another $20 and go again.
My only concern was that at times, I couldn't understand what Saito was saying. Not meaning that in a derogatory way, just could understand him at times, which hurt my watching of the film a bit.
Totally left it open for a sequel.
lemon chicken
26 Jul 2010, 17:47
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
flight23
26 Jul 2010, 18:01
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
yes you are
Ken Watanabe as Saito, the Tourist – a businessman who employs Cobb and assists their mission
so hes the asian dude
kind of a MASSIVE thing to help linking the whole movie up
Notorious_29
26 Jul 2010, 18:11
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
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Highlight to reveal --> It was Saito, the asian character that was shot in the first level of the dream in the car chase/at the warehouse. <--
Dirtywhirl
26 Jul 2010, 18:25
Enjoyed it a lot, though I feel it would have been ever better had they trimmed some of the Cotillard stuff. Am on board with the praise for Gordon-Levitt, he was superb.
RobbyRoy
26 Jul 2010, 20:21
The score isn't really something I pay attention to whilst watching these types of movies tbh.
I don't know how you could avoid it. Out of interest, what kind of movies do you pay attention to the score?
Enjoyed it a lot, though I feel it would have been ever better had they trimmed some of the Cotillard stuff. Am on board with the praise for Gordon-Levitt, he was superb.
Agreed. They should have halved her screen time and it would have had a bigger effect.
And I was kind of disappointed with JGL. Not his performance, which was fine, but the complete lack of development of the character.
lemon chicken
26 Jul 2010, 21:00
yes you are
Ken Watanabe as Saito, the Tourist – a businessman who employs Cobb and assists their mission
so hes the asian dude
kind of a MASSIVE thing to help linking the whole movie up
That would of been my guess but in his dream where they have to tip leo into the bath to bring him back out he is only one that is aged and the rest are all the same. When they go back to that same scene in the house at the end of the film and they talk is that still a dream or are they both in limbo land?
I walked out of this film and the first thing i said to the person i saw it with was poor mans Matrix. Nothing has changed my opinion on that. I liken it to the Lost finale, people can call it mind**** or whatever else but bottom line is a lot of it doesnt add up.
ManWithNoName
26 Jul 2010, 21:09
That would of been my guess but in his dream where they have to tip leo into the bath to bring him back out he is only one that is aged and the rest are all the same. When they go back to that same scene in the house at the end of the film and they talk is that still a dream or are they both in limbo land?
I walked out of this film and the first thing i said to the person i saw it with was poor mans Matrix. Nothing has changed my opinion on that. I liken it to the Lost finale, people can call it mind**** or whatever else but bottom line is a lot of it doesnt add up.
The film starts with Leo washng up on the beach, then walking in to talk to the old guy (Saito).
It then flashes back to the past, an earlier dream, where Leo's talking to a young Saito with Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt)
Not that complicated
lemon chicken
26 Jul 2010, 21:23
The film starts with Leo washng up on the beach, then walking in to talk to the old guy (Saito).
It then flashes back to the past, an earlier dream, where Leo's talking to a young Saito with Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt)
Not that complicated
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
Great movie, was thinking about it for the rest of the day when i saw it. Really clever and just a great movie, action all the way and you had to think your way through it.
Some of the scenes were spectacular and i am really liking the bloke who was the kid in 3rd rock form the sun. Has done some good roles over the last few years.
ManWithNoName
26 Jul 2010, 21:26
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
Maybe you missed the flashback.
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
Highlight> Because the asian guy died in the snow level (3rd) and went to limbo. Dicaprio's character dies in the 4th level and goes into limbo. As the different levels work on different timelines, it meant that the asian guy had been in limbo alot longer than dicaprio, hence the different aging. >
i think LemonChicken may need to see the movie again or read the wiki page for inception. it explains the movie plot in some details and may answer some queries.
lemon chicken
26 Jul 2010, 21:37
i think LemonChicken may need to see the movie again or read the wiki page for inception. it explains the movie plot in some details and may answer some queries.
I actually mentioned limbo a few posts ago yet the experts in this thread didnt say anything about it. Ive read the wiki page and found the critic reviews of this movie to match my opinion on it. Highly over-rated.
mitchzz
26 Jul 2010, 21:51
Thought it was amazing. Great plot, acting, special effects, etc. Incredible, seeing again for sure.
Wahooti Fandango
26 Jul 2010, 22:05
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
I had the same question. Cobb and Saito were in limbo for the same amount of time. I got this from an awesome website:
Why is Saito so much older than Cobb in the final dream level?
A: It's likely that Cobb and Saito are in limbo for the same amount of time, however Cobb knows he's in limbo, so perhaps this keeps him from aging visibly. Saito on the other hand seems to have forgotten where he is, and so the passage of time (which could have been decades since time runs faster the deeper you go) has more of an affect on him. Similarly, the first time Cobb and Mal end up in limbo they aged because they've forgotten where they really are and accepted it as their reality.
I really, really enjoyed. Something that really made you think. Great performances all round too.
There were a few things I was a little confused by though, highlight to reveal ->
The whole 'limbo' place confuses me a little. I was under the impression that limbo was a place that is formed by the 'subconscious' of the person who enters it. So why did Cilian Murphys character end up on the balcony of Leo and his wife apartment? As opposed to Saito who obviously formed his own limbo where he was in the big asian looking building.
And it can also get quite confusing seeing as Leo died in one 'limbo' and then woke up in another one (the one where he meets the very old Saito).
sherrinorburley
26 Jul 2010, 23:57
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Oakland Raider
27 Jul 2010, 07:34
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mattys123
27 Jul 2010, 16:23
I saw Inception today (had the day off) at a VMAX session.
The movie didn't confuse me at all, although it didn't really "blow me away" either.
I think the concept was genius, but that the final result just lacks a little bit of polish.
Overall the pace of the movie was very good, there wasn't a scene where I thought "hurry up", but it still didn't grab me the way some great movies do.
It's hard to explain why I didn't love it, maybe it was the Ellen Page casting, which to me was bordering on ridiculous and unbelievable, or maybe because you always knew there wasn't going to be a real final conclusion to the film.
I'd watch it again, but will probably wait for DVD/Blu-Ray release.
I can smell a sequel though, especially as it has been so successful, but I hope they leave it where it is, a sequel wouldn't have anything "new" to really tell us or explore that this film didn't.
I'd give the film 7.5/10, great concept, just lacking a little bit in execution and some casting choices.
The Dice Man
27 Jul 2010, 16:32
Drunk? It is a very stupid movie pretending to be intelligent.
Jut cause you said I was drunk & my review was bad I am removing two points.
it's now a 4/10 movie instead of 6/10.
Agree with this. Went expecting a brilliant movie, walked away thinking what a waste of time.
Really disappointing considering the hype. The plot was boring and ill-conceived.. I mean wow, a dream within a dream.. thanks Edgar Allan Nolan:rolleyes:
Some people tried to start an applause at the end of my viewing... I cringed. Yawn of a film that couldve been good. People saying it was a mindf**k havent really been mindfu**ed!
That chick was hot tho. Film's best feature.
ManWithNoName
27 Jul 2010, 16:48
I saw Inception today (had the day off) at a VMAX session.
The movie didn't confuse me at all, although it didn't really "blow me away" either.
I think the concept was genius, but that the final result just lacks a little bit of polish.
Overall the pace of the movie was very good, there wasn't a scene where I thought "hurry up", but it still didn't grab me the way some great movies do.
It's hard to explain why I didn't love it, maybe it was the Ellen Page casting, which to me was bordering on ridiculous and unbelievable, or maybe because you always knew there wasn't going to be a real final conclusion to the film.
I'd watch it again, but will probably wait for DVD/Blu-Ray release.
I can smell a sequel though, especially as it has been so successful, but I hope they leave it where it is, a sequel wouldn't have anything "new" to really tell us or explore that this film didn't.
I'd give the film 7.5/10, great concept, just lacking a little bit in execution and some casting choices.
Disagree on the sequel bit. Nolan doesn't strike me as the type to do a sequel "just because". Only sequel he's done was The Dark Knight, and he HAD to do that one.
HarryTiger
27 Jul 2010, 20:41
Definately worth seeing, but not perfect.
One thing I wasn't sure about was <spolier>....
how the 'other people' got into the dream and acted according to the plan.
Two examples:
Browning (Fischer's sidekick). How did he get into the dream and why was he playing along with the kidnap sting? When they ungagged him at the hotel he made the false confession to Fischer.
Fischer Senior, the dieing father. On his death bed he uttered "disappointed... you tried". The "you tried" bit was inserted so Fischer would feel that his dad was actually proud of him as a person but didn't want him to sustain the empire. In reality the father thought his son was just an unworthy person, which obviously p***ed him off (the son). So again, who was this dad in the dream and how were his strings pulled by the other guys?
ManWithNoName
27 Jul 2010, 20:49
Definately worth seeing, but not perfect.
One thing I wasn't sure about was <spolier>....
how the 'other people' got into the dream and acted according to the plan.
Two examples:
Browning (Fischer's sidekick). How did he get into the dream and why was he playing along with the kidnap sting? When they ungagged him at the hotel he made the false confession to Fischer.
Fischer Senior, the dieing father. On his death bed he uttered "disappointed... you tried". The "you tried" bit was inserted so Fischer would feel that his dad was actually proud of him as a person but didn't want him to sustain the empire. In reality the father thought his son was just an unworthy person, which obviously p***ed him off (the son). So again, who was this dad in the dream and how were his strings pulled by the other guys?
That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
Dirtywhirl
27 Jul 2010, 21:06
That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
What about the father though? I recall Eames standing at the door when Fischer Jr was leaning in to hear what his father was saying, so he wasn't taking a different form then. Had they manipulated his dreams enough to make his sub-conscious create this altered projection of his dying father.
TheStinger
27 Jul 2010, 21:06
OK, this was a visual masterpiece but an at times mess conceptually. I think it could either have been culled by about 30 minutes or flesh out a few characters more, especially Gordon-Levitt's.
There is one thing that is bugging me and if I don't ask this question (and I know I am risking looking rather foolish) I will not get it out of my head, but is this whole movie a figment of Cobb's (Di Caprio) imagination? The final shot of the spinny thing not falling down (or was it about to when they cut) leads me to believe that the entire thing was a dream. Am I wrong?
TheStinger
27 Jul 2010, 21:10
What about the father though? I recall Eames standing at the door when Fischer Jr was leaning in to hear what his father was saying, so he wasn't taking a different form then. Had they manipulated his dreams enough to make his sub-conscious create this altered projection of his dying father.
I think earlier in the film when they are coming up with the strategy, Cobb says that a dream will try and produce a positive outcome rather than a negative. The opportunity to change what his father thought of him caused his mind to add the "you tried" bit. It just allowed Murphy's character the closure he needed to make the decision they wanted, to split the company.
HarryTiger
27 Jul 2010, 21:12
That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
Thanks, I just read that on another review, I must have missed it in the film. So he was like one of the Super Heroes with his special skill, a bit too convenient that but I'll accept it.
Still leaves the dad but it won't kill me if there isn't an obvious explanation - it's that kind of movie.
ManWithNoName
27 Jul 2010, 21:13
OK, this was a visual masterpiece but an at times mess conceptually. I think it could either have been culled by about 30 minutes or flesh out a few characters more, especially Gordon-Levitt's.
There is one thing that is bugging me and if I don't ask this question (and I know I am risking looking rather foolish) I will not get it out of my head, but is this whole movie a figment of Cobb's (Di Caprio) imagination? The final shot of the spinny thing not falling down (or was it about to when they cut) leads me to believe that the entire thing was a dream. Am I wrong?
The movie was reality. What's left up to the interpretation of the viewer is whether or not the last bit, from when Cobb woke up on the plane, is a dream of not
Bond,ShaneBond
27 Jul 2010, 21:53
Did a very good job of passing itself off as smarter than it actually was. It isn't that hard to invent a world and only explain it as you go along. Having said that it looked terrific with the hotel fight being the highlight. DiCaprio wasn't at his usual level for mine, he didn't steal this movie.
Thanks, I just read that on another review, I must have missed it in the film. So he was like one of the Super Heroes with his special skill, a bit too convenient that but I'll accept it.
Still leaves the dad but it won't kill me if there isn't an obvious explanation - it's that kind of movie.
HTR >
I was under the impression that Murphy would populate the world with people out of his own subconscious. So from the very beginning they are trying to plant a certain opinion of his father and Browning in his mind so that he he imagines them acting in the way they did.
By that final snow world Murphy had imagined that his father wanted him to split up the company so that is what he heard him say because him sub-conscious told him that was what he WOULD say.
Saw it today, 10 out of 10, pretty much a masterpiece. I'm a huge fan of Philip K Dick's writing and this explored similar themes about reality, albeit in a more realistic form. But it wove in other themes of fatherhood and guilt as well. Cobb is driven by his kids and the job surrounds Cillian Murphy's feelings toward his father.
IMHO conceptually it was fine, most of the film is explained pretty well in the dialogue, the only real thing left vague is how Cobb found Saito in limbo, but limbo is a place of shared consciousness and Cobb has spent a long time there.
Another complaint seems to be the OTT action but it was a sci fi film clothed in the form of a thriller, and boy did it make the film thrilling. Someone upthread compared it to Heat and I think thats a valid comparison.
Spudregus_87
28 Jul 2010, 02:00
p.s. I thought having Murphy find the
'wind-sail toy' in the safe was a brilliant addition. Part of the reason I'd label this as a great 'thinking' film
TerryTait
28 Jul 2010, 05:20
Highlight> Because the asian guy died in the snow level (3rd) and went to limbo. Dicaprio's character dies in the 4th level and goes into limbo. As the different levels work on different timelines, it meant that the asian guy had been in limbo alot longer than dicaprio, hence the different aging. >
Just to clear that up Saito is older because he dies in level 3 but Leo doesnt die until he drowns in level 1 in the van after getting kicked back from level 4.
HarryTiger
28 Jul 2010, 12:30
p.s. I thought having Murphy find the
'wind-sail toy' in the safe was a brilliant addition. Part of the reason I'd label this as a great 'thinking' film
(no spoilers below)
I wasn't sure about it before and just did some reading. I still don't get why it would rate as requiring much thinking to get it's significance, so I might be missing something.
What's your take on it?
Tailypo
28 Jul 2010, 21:03
I liked it better upon the second viewing, I think. More chance to really take in the visuals and little threads of narrative without concentrating on the plot so much.
Agree with others on JGL's character, at least, needing to be more 'fleshed-out.' He's a talented actor. It would have added another dimension to what is a very good film.
[A bit off topic] Speaking of talented actors..Tom Hardy, the next Mad Max. His performance in Bronson was top notch.
Spudregus_87
29 Jul 2010, 04:25
(no spoilers below)
I wasn't sure about it before and just did some reading. I still don't get why it would rate as requiring much thinking to get it's significance, so I might be missing something.
What's your take on it?
My take on it:
I guess not much thought is required to appreciate its significance, but I thought it was a nice touch, and a case of the writing going a step further than it had to to get a point across (not to the film's detriment). They could've just had the childhood photo, but Hardy/Page decided to put that in as well as the forger/architect.
I'd probably have to watch it again to further explain myself I reckon, but I remember just thinking 'YES!' when I saw it happen.
___ccroo___
29 Jul 2010, 07:41
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Agreed also.
Enjoyed the film, happy i stayed away from review's etc..
Warning<<spoiler>>The lift floating scene a cracker.
HarryTiger
29 Jul 2010, 15:30
I actually never realised that the <spoiler>pinwheel</spoiler> was in the photo at the time I watched it, didn't focus enough at the time. Plus a very distracting cinema isle light pissed me off through the film - thank you Village for that.
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Finally saw it.
Right now thinking I saw a great film, not sure if I saw a brilliant film. Visually stunning, and whilst a certain aspect of the film left me a little confused --> layers of dreams, wiki cleared it up<-- I found it as a whole to be pretty satisfying, and ended the way it should of ended.
FWIW on the ending --> I believe he's still dreaming. Removed from guilt allows him to see the faces of his kids, and like someone mentioned earlier about dreams ending positively, just my opinion. <---
Scoring was great, and this is very cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&feature=player_embedded Don't be seeing if you havent' seen it, because comments will spoil...
Memento still rates higher in my book, but after a second viewing, I could grow to have a greater appreciation for it.
I don't think it was a dream, in dreams the totem spins continuously and doesn't slow down IIRC? At the end the totem slows down and wobbles.