What do you want to see for the rest of the year?

[silk]

Ok.. first please... lets keep knights and sacking out of this thread as much as possible.

Our season is over... was 3 weeks ago imo, but now it's 100%, what do we all want to see in terms of the team, positions selections?

For my, i want to see all of Houli, Myers, Hardingham, Atkinson, Muscles, Jetta, T Slatts, and J.williams, and maybe cramari.

I would have Neagle play the rest of the year no matter what. We need to play young kids now just for the sake of playing young kids, and allow them to taste senior selection...
Guys like Dyson, Welsh, Slattery, NLM, shouldn't get a look in for the rest of the year in the seniors.. we know what they can and will offer, it's time to look elsewhere, you could included Mcveigh and Fletch if you like, but I think we need some leadership... I would play Mcveigh up forward though, or not at all.

I would like a team of more or less

FB Hardingham, Hurley, Fletch
HB Atkinson, Hooker, Hocking
C Winderlich, Melksham, Houli
HF Marigiliani, Neagle, Monfries
FF Jetta, Gumbleton, Colyer
Rucks - Ryder, Watson, Howlett
Int (from). Stanton, Belly, Myers, Williams (John), Dempsey, Lonergan, Crameri, T slatts, Davey

If dempsey plays, play him on a wing, or HFF, no more backline for him.
If lonergan plays, he must play mid field.
If Myers plays, he must play mid field
If Quinn plays... i know some of you will scoff, but he performs well for bendigo consistently, and we are screwed this season anyways... so if quinn does play, he MUST be played as a crumbing forward pocket and no where else.
I wouldn't play stanton, i know he is a decent player, but you know what you get from him.
I wouldn't be disappointed to see monfries, fletch and winderlich not played so that players like williams and t slatts get a game... I don't really care about this year results anymore as it doesn't really matter now, so let us find out if we really so have some talent coming through eh?

Would like to know other posters thoughts, and also feel free to critique, abuse, agree with me.. :thumbsu:

[Noddy Holder]

games that don't involve Essendon

[Skeeta Olly]

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[abers47]

Silk - I agree with most of what you have said. Mostly I want to see us regain some respect by playing with heart and really putting in. I have been particularly disappointed in how Dave Myers has gone - thought he was doing really well, then for a variety of reasons has disappeared from the radar! Lets try and get him back on track! I know you didnt want to hear about coaching, but IF we end up with a new coach, need to know what some of these young players can do! Would hate to see them tear it up for another club next year.

[KaaN10]

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[AndyLesPaul]

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Cool,

which ties with my next point, the only positive thing which comes from a teams slump is that the teams actual supporters come to light, and the others, well they're a little more obvious

[theboxmike]

i think we should start playing some of the staff, trainers, coaches anybody who is willing to do the hard yards. Players should open a a dry cleaners, since i'm sure many of them will be out of work soon enough.

[yaco55]

Aim to concede less than 90 points per week - In other words work on the defence.

[TheDon35]

Myers, Houli, Melksham, Hurley, Gumby, Hooker, Reimers, Jetta, Hardingham, Zaka, et al getting as much opportunities as possible to become the players we need them to be.

Limitted opportunities given to the like of NLM, Welsh, Dyson, Lonergan, McVeigh, Slattery as they collectively are not the way forward.

Any chance of a forward structure that looks dangerous?
Any chance of playing Neagle out of the goal square which is his only spot.
Any chance of Dempsey playing in the middle as he's so obviously way out of touch at half back.
Any chance of More Zaka time in the guts?
Any chance of 'anything' meaningful coming out of Matthew Knights mouth. The rhetorical, rehersed garbage has worn thin. More about how he sounds than the substance he delivers. Time to go.

[Valve Bounce]

Cool,

which ties with my next point, the only positive thing which comes from a teams slump is that the teams actual supporters come to light, and the others, well they're a little more obvious

So true. At a time when supporters just want to say something irrelevant rather than show how much they are hurting inside, well I guess there is not much left for me to say. Personally, I just pray that our players remain injury free so that a new battle can commence next year.

[adii_7]

stanton, winderlich in the twos

[Kong]

Team selections for the future.

[HFF_07]

Team selections for the future.

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[knightmare123]

GOD to take over this weekend. Drop Lovett-Murray, CD, Hooker. Give Houli other kids a chance etc. Overturn our list at the end of the year aka Richmond last year.

[footycool]

HFF_07 like's this :thumbsu:
footycool likes what HFF_07 likes :thumbsu:

[MAAAATTDAAAAMON]

I just want to see us play some football like we did early this year when we were looking so fast and dangerous.

I want to go into the preseason being excited about brilliant and consistent finishes to the season from these guys:
- Reimers - would love to see him become an ongoing threat in the forward line, a few 3-4 goals games would be exciting.
- Gumby - has done well, but would love to see him dominate a game or 2 before seasons end.
- Myers - just play him FFS.
- Jetta - was playing great footy for 4 weeks, but in the last 4 games has only 2 goals and has not got more than 15 touches in a game. Disappointing.
- Dempsey - really want to see him finish the season in style.

Already excited about Hurley, Zaha, Pears, Hooker, Melksham, Hocking, Howlett.

Would like to see these guys played sparingly:
- Dyson, Prismall, Welsh, Lonergan, H.Slattery.
Would like to get a look (and be impressed by) guys like Hardingham, Muscles, Daniher, Williams' (J and M).

[OzBomber]

I wanna see Mark Williams get a game. The bloke's a premiership player FFS. I don't care if he's done nothing at Bendigo. Prismall and Neagle did nothing when they were at Bendio and they're getting games. Give the guy a chance.

[Sill]

Injuries to the Collingwood Football Club....................:rolleyes:

[EVERLAST]

Any sign of improvement from anyone. Just anything will do.

[bombre-boy]

Beat Carlton again

[silk]

Beat Carlton again

This would be nice.

[Atavistic]

Houli and Myers getting regular games.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

- Pick the best 25 players for next year and play them for the rest of this year. The exceptions to this being that not all best 25 will be available and that the first year players will need more time in VFL to build fitness.

- Of the available players the following should be played for the rest of this year and given the confidence that they will be persisted with:

B: Fletcher - Hurley - McVeigh
HB: Reimers - Hooker - Winderlich
C: Dempsey - Myers - Zaharakis
HF: Jetta - Gumbleton - Monfries
F: Williams - Neagle - Davey
Foll: Ryder - Watson - Stanton
Int: Hille - Hocking - Prismall - Houli
Emg: Howlett - NLM - Atkinson

- While I believe NLM is in our best 22 and he has had his best season to date, I still believe with the right development from other players he will not make the best 22 in future.

- Houli is given his chance for the rest of the season to show significant improvement in the seniors, with the confidence in knowing he will stay there and is allowed to make the odd mistake without penalty of being removed from the team. Ditto Prismall.

- Williams is told that provided he maintains solid forward pressure he will remain in the team. He has enough pedigree that should he only concentrate on that the rest will follow. No goal/possession expectations would be set.

- Neagle is persisted with as a traditional full forward from the square for the rest of the year. His only expectations set is to maintain forward pressure and that when he competes for the ball, that if he can't realistically mark it then make sure the ball goes to ground for the likes of Jetta, Davey, Monfries and Williams to take advantage.

- All players persisted with a consistent specific role and position to start in.

- Hurley is full back and will take whoever goes to the goal square or which ever tall is deepest in attack.

- Hooker to take whoever is the tall at half back.

- McVeigh to shut down the best opposition small forward with no expectation of counter attacking.

- Fletcher to be 3rd man up in defense. I see Pears playing this role when Fletcher retires.

- Reimers and Winderlich to be the defensive counter attack players.

- Myers/Hocking to alternate as midfield taggers/inside midfielders with grunt.

- Watson to keep doing what he is already doing, champion player and great choice as Captain.

- Stanton to focus on defensive running and foot skills. Great player and very under rated but still has to improve in these areas.

- Dempsey and Zaharakis to start off the wing then through the midfield to provide poise, speed and class. I believe Dempsey is better by foot than a lot of people give him credit for. With less pressure on him being in the middle rather than in defense I think we will see this.

- Choose players to play forward that are natural forwards. Then to tell those forwards only to worry about keeping defensive forward pressure. Being natural forwards the attacking parts will come naturally. Of the forwards I have selected above I believe only Gumbleton is not a natural forward, however I'm happy to persist with him as an exception as he is showing rapid improvement in forward play and has a great tank to play the modern half forward KP role.

- Monfries to be the 3rd target up forward.

- Williams, Davey and Jetta to crumb and harass.

- Ryder/Hille to share ruck duties and both can be options up forward when rotations are required or a mismatch possible etc.

- Houli and Prismall to rotate though the Midfield.

- Howlett, Atkinson and NLM to be first choice replacements in the team through injury or suspension to a smaller player.

- Bellchambers first choice replacement ruckman. Don't want to wear Ryder out by playing too many full games as sole ruck. Remember how he was by the end of last season?

- Colyer given tagging roles at Bendigo while focusing on his disposal. Is a natural attacking player and a tagging role would improve his all round game.

- Melksham play out season with Bendigo. Will be better off for it next year.

- Hardingham/T.Slattery be in line for senior call up should a couple of injuries occur with the said backline smalls.

- Still to beef up and continue playing for Bendigo.

- Daniher is a hard one, should be first to be allowed to show his wares as either forward or back player should a tall forward or back get injured.

- Focus on skills under pressure at training.

- Focus on continual movement at training, very sick of attempting to play a Geelong brand of football with flat footed players.

- Simple instructions very specific to each player given, with nothing too complicated added. Remove as much possible chance of confusion when under pressure.

- Lonergan, Dyson, Welsh are depth players. When our team is great as much as it saddens me they do not make our best 25.

- H. Slattery. I love your efforts and passion, but there is too little in every other aspect of your game to keep persisting. I hope you enjoy the sun and surf, all the best.

- Laycock, with another year left on your contract you are lucky, want to go to GCFC?

- Long, Carlisle to get some senior games next year if they are up for it.

- Game plan, keep it simple. Too many instructions and it is too hard to follow for half the players under pressure. If we want to go the speed path with handballs etc fine, but make sure everyone is constantly moving around the pack and that there are players that run by each side of each contested situation. Build predictability to your team mates. This will take time and come through a consistent structure and with consistency in selection.

That is what I want to see.

[mayhem20202]

That is what I want to see.

Hurley will not play back in the long run for us, why play him there now? Surely Pears and Hooker are enough in the backline, with Daniher to step in when Fletch pulls the pin. We struggle so much being able to find enough goals to win a game, so, why take one of our most capable goal kickers from the forward line and play him back???
When I watched Tayte Pears, I would remember his games, and think, gee, he contributed today, whereas, I am yet to watch Hurley defensively and think that he has had a great impace on the game, whereas with Hurley playing forward, in most games, I walk away thinking, he either a) contributed, or b) is progressing towards contributing. When I watch him play defense, I can't help but think he is just treading water.

Are we the only club in the AFL that makes week by week decisions on each player? Surely there needs to be some consistency, Prismall, Atkinson, Dempsey, Hurley, Lonergan, Melksham, Colyer, have all gone in and out of the side, or changed positions. Can't we work out who is in our best side and put some faith in them??? Take Freo as an example, Morabito has played 16 out of the 16 games for them, when he could have been overlooked for a more experienced player, however, they figure he is worth persevering with, so they give him a chance. It may cost them a top 4 spot, but in the long run, it might help them win a flag. We were never going to do any better than 9 or 10th this year, so why not play Melksham in every game if his body allows and give him some good early exposure to AFL football? Why not let Hurley play a full season forward? Why not let Prismall find his form and fitness (only 8 games after coming back from a reco)? Why not give these players a chance to start to develop into the key components of a premiership side, instead of having the feeling they are only really bit part players in a poor side (which, sadly, is what we currently are).

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Mayhem, I want Neagle given the opportunity at full forward for the rest of the year, he will not get that if Hurley is there. Pears is out for the rest of the year.

Given consistency down back you will see Hurley have an impact there.

[mayhem20202]

Mayhem, I want Neagle given the opportunity at full forward for the rest of the year, he will not get that if Hurley is there. Pears is out for the rest of the year.

Given consistency down back you will see Hurley have an impact there.

I am not fussed about Neagle. Having watched him for a while, he is not the answer. I would rather see Hurley play forward. Besides, surely Hooker and Fletcher can handle the business down back, maybe Daniher can get a chance if we need 3 talls, and then Neagle can play out of the goal square, Hurley in front of him, and Gumbleton can use that tank of his higher up the ground. His finishing is poor, so, I think we are better with Gumby 40 - 80 metres from goal, being a target for the guys coming out of the back half, and then marking, turning quickly and kicking it to the leading Neagle or Hurley.

I don't like Hurley as a defender, I know he is capable of playing there, the point I was trying to make was that I feel he has a bigger impact up forward, not that he can't do it.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I am not fussed about Neagle. Having watched him for a while, he is not the answer. I would rather see Hurley play forward. Besides, surely Hooker and Fletcher can handle the business down back, maybe Daniher can get a chance if we need 3 talls, and then Neagle can play out of the goal square, Hurley in front of him, and Gumbleton can use that tank of his higher up the ground. His finishing is poor, so, I think we are better with Gumby 40 - 80 metres from goal, being a target for the guys coming out of the back half, and then marking, turning quickly and kicking it to the leading Neagle or Hurley.

I don't like Hurley as a defender, I know he is capable of playing there, the point I was trying to make was that I feel he has a bigger impact up forward, not that he can't do it.

I understand what you're saying about Hurley up forward. My opinion is it will be better for the team if Neagle can show something there than by having Hurley there for the next 6 weeks. If he doesn't show something, Hurley will have all next year up forward to show his wares.

Daniher is injured, even though not listed by the club. Having Fletcher's drive as 3rd tall down back helping out is more valuable than having him as full back.

[mayhem20202]

I understand what you're saying about Hurley up forward. My opinion is it will be better for the team if Neagle can show something there than by having Hurley there for the next 6 weeks. If he doesn't show something, Hurley will have all next year up forward to show his wares.

Daniher is injured, even though not listed by the club. Having Fletcher's drive as 3rd tall down back helping out is more valuable than having him as full back.

I had wondered why Daniher was not getting a go considering the current state of play down back, especially when Fletch was suspended. Yeah, I don't want Fletch playing on anyone. Rather him zoning off, helping out and then giving us something going forward. Think that works really well when the midfielders are accountable and there aren't 3 free opposition midfielders running forward unattended to.

[Kong]

I'm inclined to agree with Skeeta Olly; I think Hurley's best position is back.

Nothing wrong with having Hooker at CHB, Pears/Hurley at FB and the other as the third tall that Fletcher's made famous.

Gumby looks set at CHF. Neagle has always been the answer at FF for me, and I honesrtly think he's turned the corner.

[mayhem20202]

I'm inclined to agree with Skeeta Olly; I think Hurley's best position is back.

Nothing wrong with having Hooker at CHB, Pears/Hurley at FB and the other as the third tall that Fletcher's made famous.

Gumby looks set at CHF. Neagle has always been the answer at FF for me, and I honesrtly think he's turned the corner.

The problem for me with Neagle is that there are times where there are midfielders running from the centre with the ball, whether it be up the middle or out wide, and he is standing there in the goal square, rather than leading up the ground at them. I would have thought that as a FF, knowing when to lead is one of the easier parts of the game, however, this seems to be one of his biggest deficiencies.

[TheDon35]

I'm inclined to agree with Skeeta Olly; I think Hurley's best position is back.

Nothing wrong with having Hooker at CHB, Pears/Hurley at FB and the other as the third tall that Fletcher's made famous.

Gumby looks set at CHF. Neagle has always been the answer at FF for me, and I honesrtly think he's turned the corner.

Yep. Worked ok for Geelong - Scarlett, Taylor & Harley. Moreover they were supported by other mid talls in Milburn, Mackey and Enright.

Absolutely no reason Hurley, Hooker and Pears can't all play back together if they're good enough.

[half time raffle]

Things i don't want to see: H Slattery get back in the side - provides nothing going forward

I would like to see Stanton given some time on the side lines, obviously carrying an injury at the moment, he looks like a wounded duck when trying to accelerate.

Give both Myers and Houli an extended assured run in the seniors, if nothing it may increase trade value but hopefully reveals we have a couple of decent midfielders.

I would also like to see Zaka, Jetta and Monfires included in the midfield roatations.

[mayhem20202]

Yep. Worked ok for Geelong - Scarlett, Taylor & Harley. Moreover they were supported by other mid talls in Milburn, Mackey and Enright.

Absolutely no reason Hurley, Hooker and Pears can't all play back together if they're good enough.

The Geelong example is a good one actually. Proves my point. Geelong had those guys you mentioned, plus Egan, but, then when you removed Scarlett and Egan from that set up, they were still just as effective, as what they were with 3 talls back there. The reason that Fletcher is so effective is because, a) he reads the play well, b) he has great disposal. If he was a mid sized defender with the same attributes, he could still fill the role. Geelong have filled Scarlett's shoes with a smaller more mobile type player, and they have been just as effective.

I am not saying that they can't all play together. What I am saying is that I think Hurley is more value up forward. Not everyone is capable of playing up forward, creating a genuine leading or pack marking target, and also capable of kicking goals. If you look throughout the sides in the AFL, probably only 5 of the sides have a player of these capabilities, and I think we have 1 in Hurley, so, why waste him in the backline. Everyone has 1 or 2 tall defenders that are capable of playing on the opposition's average tall forward. We have another 2 of them on our list, let them take the big forwards. Find someone that is smart and can kick, to play "loose" or on the opposition's worst forward to be a help out man, and also a "quarterback" type.

I'm not really sure that Hurley or Hooker fit this bill. Pears might be capable of it, but, he has been doing it so far whilst also manning up on the opposition's best player and having them take him to the ball, and then he uses his ability to read the play and superior strength/positioning to win the ball and then take off with it. If he can shut someone down, whilst also setting up play, you only then need a mid size defender like NLM (not necessarilly him, but, someone of that height, speed and fitness) to play "loose" and get the ball and set up play.

[Darealrath]

I want to see blokes keeping their eye on the footy and making that their first priority, instead of trying to act hard and bracing for contact when they feel it coming but running over the footy. Happening way too often lately.

[Valve Bounce]

I think we should look on the remainder of this season as a develpoment of a very young side which, hopefully, will bring us better results in the future. I'm sorry if I cannot be more optimistic, but at least we have to start somewhere into the future. We have some gifted youngsters and I think that they will develop into a winning team.

[knightmare123]

Riemers end Didaks season llyod bump resulting in a broken jaw.

[nipst@r]

justanotherfan named coach.

Honestly though agree with all of what he said. In terms of knights say you've got the job till the end of year no matter what, and then review it then based on how we will be next year.

Like to see our forwards told to lead up to the ball. get some coaching by lloyd or lucas (someone credentialed) and told how to lead towards the ball carrier. And set up our gameplan/positions accordingly.

The kids given a even more of a chance welsh, dyson, mcveigh, nlm, slattery and such either get in the best or dont get a game. We know what there gonna give us, it aint that much.

Play tyson slatter, give hardingham, muscles these types a game and see what they have to offer.

A new weights coach or anybody who will make sure our players put on muscle. It is disgraceful how many players we have who have been in the system for years and years and are no bigger, no stronger, no more powerful or no more ripped then when they started. Names like dyson, winderlich, stanton, hooker, ryder, welsh, mcveigh, slattery, nlm, neagle, gumbleton.

Apart form hille, hocking even our naturally bigger bodies are not ripped like all the other clubs. Even if they've put on kilos, look at the other clubs and their players a bursting, even their younger players. Players like, neagle, gumbleton, hurley could even do with really hitting the weights and increasing that strength and power rather than just size.

[AndyLesPaul]

Things i don't want to see: H Slattery get back in the side - provides nothing going forward
> Thats probably because he's a backman. We need Slattery in the side because he is a solid defender, and I can say for sure, that had Slattery been playing that match, LeCras wouldn't have scored 12 goals.

[nipst@r]

No more of knights saying the rest of the year is respect.

We don't want respect, that is honourable losses, we will not get respect back. We need to play the kids. Find out who wants to play for the club, even if we get smashed, if we play kids who are having a dip ill cop that. We try different things, ill cop that. Not look we'l put a team thatl be competitive and win back a lil respect but ultimately get us nowhere. Say were coming were gonna try anything, try everyone to make sure we are successful again soon.

Essendon football club the most successfull afl club in history will not be respected til we are up their competing again.

Also we need to upgrade our facilities asap and take our club into the 21st century, i love our community ties but have a look at windy hill rehab, weights, etc compared to the lexus centre and tell me this doesn't disadvantage us at all. Be awesome if we could've stayed and upgraded to state of the art facilities as well, dam bowls club.

Our football department spending is quite low, we need to increase this get the best coaches, assistants, physios, technology and say were gonna spend, we are gonna be the best.

[deeplivid]

Just pick a frigging team and stick with it. Our best team. Play to win! Otherwise, if we keep chopping the line-up to pieces, we'll earn our first Wooden Spoon in 70 years.

Work on defense. Aim to concede less than 90 points per game, as Yako55 reckons.

Play with heart. Hirdy said that the Dons he knew... if they lost a few gmes and had their backs to the wall they would fight back hard for the club.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

justanotherfan named coach.

Even though I would make Knights look like coach of the decade I appreciate your vote and would be happy to take a $500k per year pay packet! :D

[TeamHurley]

Matthew knights to coach for the future and not to save his white ass.

[Ben the Gooner]

Even though I would make Knights look like coach of the decade I appreciate your vote and would be happy to take a $500k per year pay packet! :D

I'd settle for the $400k Knights is said to be on, if I were you, but only because it's Essendon.:p

[The Donners]

Things i don't want to see: H Slattery get back in the side - provides nothing going forward
> Thats probably because he's a backman. We need Slattery in the side because he is a solid defender, and I can say for sure, that had Slattery been playing that match, LeCras wouldn't have scored 12 goals.


He would've booted 14.

LeCras would've run so many rings around Slattery he would've fallen over from dizzyness. Look at the first goal of the game in our earlier clash with West Coast, LeCras was able to make space from Slattery to slot the first goal with so much ease it was laughable!

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I'd settle for the $400k Knights is said to be on, if I were you, but only because it's Essendon.:p

I guess I could take one for the team and accept $400k.

[Ben the Gooner]

He would've booted 14.

LeCras would've run so many rings around Slattery he would've fallen over from dizzyness. Look at the first goal of the game in our earlier clash with West Coast, LeCras was able to make space from Slattery to slot the first goal with so much ease it was laughable!

And didn't kick another one on him until junk time in the last, when Slatts was covering Le Cras + another Eagle.

[The Donners]

And didn't kick another one on him until junk time in the last, when Slatts was covering Le Cras + another Eagle.

LeCras kicked 4.

Let's not go back to this. Everyone remembers what Slattery was like before he was injured, there are few people who continue to agree with your views of Slattery's worth.

[anf06]

LeCras kicked 4.

Let's not go back to this. Everyone remembers what Slattery was like before he was injured, there are few people who continue to agree with your views of Slattery's worth.

I disagree with you. As much as I don't like Slattery, his game against the Eagles last time when he was on LeCras was overall good. He would not have let him kick 12. Or 14.

[Ben the Gooner]

LeCras kicked 4.

Let's not go back to this. Everyone remembers what Slattery was like before he was injured, there are few people who continue to agree with your views of Slattery's worth.

Slattery was tagging Priddis when two of the goals were kicked.

[The Donners]

Slattery was tagging Priddis when two of the goals were kicked.

Let me guess, Priddis didn't get one of his 30 touches while Slattery was tagging him? Slattery is super human after all! :p

[The Donners]

I disagree with you. As much as I don't like Slattery, his game against the Eagles last time when he was on LeCras was overall good. He would not have let him kick 12. Or 14.

I disagree with you. I don't think it had anything to do with Slattery that LeCras was relatively quiet in round 3 or 4. I simply call it a coincidence.

[Kong]

Funny that Hocking gets what, 7 goals kicked on him, Fletcher 3 or 4, and a few others, yet nobody criticises either of them.

Yes Le Cras was on song, but if that was Hank, even for the 3 or 4 that Fletcher conceded.. You know the rest.

[yaco55]

Donners

I understand why Le Cras would have kicked 14 - Slattery would have found a way to make le Cras' two misses become goals.:D

[sup3rfish]

when did this thread become about le cras and shit bloke slatts....

i want to see blokes like Still, Houli and Maragilani get at least two games under there belt this year!

i want Prismall back playing AFL and playing in the guts rather then on the wing...

Neagle to get dropped.... Gumby to tear apart a game.....

To see something i can look forward to watch going forward.....

To see us win a clearance and hardball get count for whole game....

A team not kick multiple goals on us in a row.....

[yaco55]

Dont know why Marigliani's form fell away since the VFL state game.

He was always determined to make it onto an AFL list, and was heading in the right direction for the first half of the year.

This is pure speculation - Was he informed that he wouldn't be upgraded to the senior list ? Is he injured ?

Can anyone shed light on this issue ?

[Ben the Gooner]

Let me guess, Priddis didn't get one of his 30 touches while Slattery was tagging him? Slattery is super human after all! :p

No one's saying he's a world beater. Just a good ordinary player.

Dont know why Marigliani's form fell away since the VFL state game.

He was always determined to make it onto an AFL list, and was heading in the right direction for the first half of the year.

This is pure speculation - Was he informed that he wouldn't be upgraded to the senior list ? Is he injured ?

Can anyone shed light on this issue ?

He copped a gigantic hit from Sam Hunt in that game, but I have no idea how much it affected him.

[The Great Barry Besanko]

Just want to see Houli, Myers and Prismall play all 6 games.

Fans to relax and give Knights a chance i.e no booing.
Don't know what the fuss about Marigliani tbh, nothing special from what i've seen (admittedly limited).

[Knight Ryders]

I'm inclined to agree with Skeeta Olly; I think Hurley's best position is back.

Nothing wrong with having Hooker at CHB, Pears/Hurley at FB and the other as the third tall that Fletcher's made famous.

Gumby looks set at CHF. Neagle has always been the answer at FF for me, and I honesrtly think he's turned the corner.

I truly hoped that Hurley would be our answer to JB, but I agree with everything you've said. He's a natural backmen, but he can always be a swing man when needed in the future.

This is the team I'd like to see for the rest of the year:

FB: Fletcher, Hurley, Jetta
HB: Hardingham, Hooker, Atkinson
C: Houli, Watson, Dempsey
HF: Prismall, Gumbleton, Stanton
FF: Davey, Neagle, Colyer
R: Ryder, Winderlich, Hocking
INT: Hille, Howlett, Zaharakis, Melksham.

Probably the end for McVeigh imo. We've struggled for leaders this year and if he can't provide that, then we may as well play a kid. I don't think it is the end for Welshy just yet, but I would rather get games into Melksham, Colyer, Hocking (midfield), Prismall, Houli, Howlett and Zaka in the midfield before I play him.

I'd like to see Stanton and Prismall play half forward and work really hard leading up and down the field. They can become our 7th/8th midfielders at times and have the fitness and nous to push back to be dangerous near goals. Give the half backs something to worry about but these boys (for whatever is said about them) know how to find the pill. Prismall played this position really well at the Cats, even though he was playing in a much better team.

Zaharakis, Howlett, Melksham all to rotate through the midfield. In small bursts, Houli, Dempsey and Hocking will have to rotate through the defence to give them a break. Should only be limited time though.

Jetta has struggled to have a consistent impact in the forward pocket, which is probably the hardest position to play in modern day football. I would love to have a look at him in the back pocket on the nibby forward pocket types. May be an epic fail but wouldn't it great if it worked out? At least worth a try as we seem to lack some real pace down back currently.

A position we've struggled for a while is the small/medium back position and although Atkinson wasn't setting the world alight possessions wise, he was competing very well before he was dropped. Just like Atkinson, Hardingham is athletic and has some spring to deal with the athletic small/medium forwards around at the current time. We need to stop trying to invent good half back flankers when we've got a couple playing at Bendigo.

[bipolarbeaR]

4 Straight wins, it will happen too.
Go Bombers! :D

[The Donners]

Funny that Hocking gets what, 7 goals kicked on him, Fletcher 3 or 4, and a few others, yet nobody criticises either of them.

Yes Le Cras was on song, but if that was Hank, even for the 3 or 4 that Fletcher conceded.. You know the rest.

There's a simple answer to that Whomb, Hank is not only a poor defender but he also provides absolutely nothing else. Hocking, Fletcher et al have an attacking side so where they might like in defensive capabilities much like Hank, they actually have an upside i.e. Fletcher is a superb kick and sets up the play, Hocking doesn't panic when he gets the ball and his decision making is usually quite good.

[anf06]

Let me guess, Priddis didn't get one of his 30 touches while Slattery was tagging him? Slattery is super human after all! :p

This comment makes it seem like you are doing other things whilst the football is busy playing in the background. Then you look at the stats after the game and make your judgement. Changes, positional and matchup change many times during the day. I'd like to see a little bit more depth and analysis in your posting and maybe watch a game twice before you comment on it. Because clearly you didn't watch that one too closely.

I'm not trying to sound demonstrative, but it's hard to argue that Slattery was only on LeCras for two of his goals, to anyone who paid attention whilst watching the game. Yet somehow you find a way to argue against it to suit your argument. It astounds me.

[The Donners]

This comment makes it seem like you are doing other things whilst the football is busy playing in the background. Then you look at the stats after the game and make your judgement. Changes, positional and matchup change many times during the day. I'd like to see a little bit more depth and analysis in your posting and maybe watch a game twice before you comment on it. Because clearly you didn't watch that one too closely.

I'm not trying to sound demonstrative, but it's hard to argue that Slattery was only on LeCras for two of his goals, to anyone who paid attention whilst watching the game. Yet somehow you find a way to argue against it to suit your argument. It astounds me.

Slattery only had 2 goals kicked on him by LeCras and Priddis didn't get a touch on him. Is that what you're saying? I never mentioned Priddis until BtG mentioned him so it was BtG who helped my argument.

The stats don't show where Slattery was trying to do too much, put Dempsey under rediciulous pressure just inside defensive 50m and it ended up in a goal. I think it was the third quarter when we were kicking to the right of the screen (?). I can't recall who kicked the goal, I just remember how much of a VFL player Slattery was made to look - again.

Don't get me wrong, Dempsey's footy has been rubbish too - though at the moment so is the majority of the team's footy.

[Ben the Gooner]

I brought Priddis up because we keep hearing about the 4 goals Le Cras kicked on Slattery... that's just false.

[ComfyInNautica]

Howlett to play out the rest of the season. Has been one of the more consistent performers when in the side.

Hardingham to make his debut.

Fletcher to play a game up forward.

[Tony Delaney]

We need to play players to see if they can play otherwise offload them.

Neagle, Houli and Prismall are the 3 main ones that come to mind. Give Hardingham a run seeing as we took him over Barlow. Play Atkinson also.

Also i don't want to hear Bomber fans boo our team at the games under any circumstances, this makes me sick. Suck in the bad times and this will make the good times all the more enjoyable.