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HFF_07
11 Sep 2010, 13:46
First of all, it was a great season for the Bendigo guys to come back from where they have been for the past two season was great. You could sense some unity in and around the clubs during the games and you could sense the joy for guys like Flaherety and Skipworth who have busted a gut for the past couple of seasons to finally enjoy some finals action again..

The season took a vastly different approach to that of previous seasons with Bendigo being a defacto stand alone club for Essendon, hence playing alligned clubs, the 12 (AFL players) - 10 (VFL players) rule applied.

The reserves side was also scraped to ensure that the financially instable
Bendigo Bombers F.C could survive. This was mooted late last season and was implemented for the 2010 season.

The list was shortened from a full list of up to 60 VFL players to a list of 21.

The list includes players from in and around the Bendigo region whilst a Melbourne based training squad was also selected to train at Windy Hill.

Bendigo listed players here (http://www.bendigobombers.com/html/s02_article/article_view.asp?article_id=280&nav_cat_id=-1&nav_top_id=-1)

The team it self was ruined all year by the constant changing in the senior side and kept the reserves side unsettled all year. Was really hoping for some continuity at both AFL and VFL level this year in regards to team changes, guess not.

Any ways here is a bit of a review of the season.

BEST WIN:
Round 15 V Williamstown Seagulls

Played in attrocisou conditions at Williamstown's Burbank Oval, Bendigo skipped away to a nice 4.7 - 0.2 lead at quarter time with Jarrod Atkinson prominent and Jake Carlisle showing some very good signs.

As the day drew longer, the seagulls slowly pegged there way back into the match and finished the day 3 points shy of the Bendigo Bombers 9.16.70 scoreline for what was a memorable win for the boys from Windy Hill against the top of the ladder Williamstown outfit that has some very, very good footballers in there side.

Jake Carlisle underlined is talent with three goals and numerous marks, whilst James Flaharety held Frosty Miller medalist goal list in what was the catalyst in holding the 'Gulls' back from another barnstorming win.


WORST LOSS:
Round 12 V Port Melbourne

On the back of a super win against league cellar dwellers Frankston and a very competitive game against reigning premie North Ballarat the week before, Bendigo were on the march, Port Melbourne came out all guns blazing with an 8 goal to 1 first quarter to kill the contest. The game wore on and so did our effort as we ended up on the end of a 58 point hiding from Port Melbourne, with the Port Melbourne threesome (no homo) of Dean Galea, Adrian Bonnadio and Callum Sinclair kicking 12 of the teams 18 goals between them, Ben Duscher underlined his potential with a best on ground for Bendigo with Michael Quinn and Bachar Houli also trying hard all day.

DEFENCE:

Our defence held strong for the majority of the time, with the recruitment of Trent Shinners really paying dividends and showed his class at times. Am hoping for a top 10 B&F finish from the former Frankston Dolphin. Tyson Slattery was his able assistant for most of the year before the long season started to get a hold of his young body, certainly did some big jobs this year though (Nick Sautner - Round 18, Matt Little - Round 15).

The one thing that has been a major weakness of the Bendigo team has been the opposition small forwards. Jeff Garlett (round 1 - 5 goals), Robbie Hicks (round 9 - 3 goals), Luke Breust (round 9 - 3 goals) and Shane Tregear (round 18 - 3 goals) all having an impact playing as a small forward.

Jarrod Atkinson was one who was a constant as a small lockdown defender but gave his opponenet far to much lattitude to his opponenet and was often the player left duimbfounded by his opponents goals. John Williams showed some good signs playing as a small defender but injury again cost him game time this season and may have played his last game. The introduction of Brad Collins, Blair Holmes and Matthew Ladson all having a good effect before letting them selves down in the finals.

With the reintroduction of a reserves side next year, I am hoping for Bendigo to look for a small defender rather than rely on the Essendon stocks for the year.

My defender of the year award would go to Trent Shinners, closely followed by Tyson Slattery, whilst captain James Flaharety struggled to reach to the heights of 2009 and did not look right for the majorty of the second half of the season.

MIDFIELD:

One area we should have improved on, and did ok in bits throughout the year. The re introduction of Hayden Skipworth was telling at times with his big body being crucial in some games (round 2 V Port Melbourne), whilst his leadership was also very good as a playing assistant coach. The young Essendon midfielders enjoyed there time in the sun however none were really knocking the house down for senior selection. At any one game we had a variety of Brent Prismal, David Myers, Bachar Houli, Ben Howlett, Marcus Marigliani, Stuart Crameri and Leroy Jetta all having games at Bendigo.

During the year though, Bendigo found some absolute gems with the selection of Bendigo Pioneer and 2009 Vic Country Shane Page proving an inspired choice. He was simply sensational, running harder than most and gradually improving his output as the season wore on, managing 10 of a possible 17 matches for a first year senior player was superb.

The other big recruitment was the re introduction of Ben Duscher, the former Bendigo Bomber and Bendigo Pioneer who took a couple of years off from the VFL scene. He stepped into the VFL side in round 11 and never looked back. He is playing in the VFL young guns game tomorrow at Box Hill City Oval at 11:00am if anyone is interested.

Back to the midfield, this was one area that we relied heavily on an Essendon output, as showed in the finals with hardly a sceric of Essendon representation.

RUCKS:

The rucks were solid to poor throughout the year with Jason Laycock threatening to return to his best but injury again curtailed (and possibly ended) his season (and career). Bellchambers is slowly coming to grips with how hard you have to work around the ground and would not be at all surprised to see him pinch a couple of games next year. Young Bock was also a revelation this year, managing every match this year and enjoying a purple patch in the middle of the year when he was forced to ruck on his own (ably supported by the versatile Shinners). Pity the Bendigo guys were not that crash hot in the ruck and left Bock out to dry. Some people have called for Bock's head, but one game during the year spoke to Gary O'Donnell and he said "we are happy with his progress, he does one good thing per quarter now, not one good thing per game which we are really pleased about" so they are happy with where he is at.

FORWARDS:

Our greatest glaring weakness was the forward line. Neagle was rubbish all year and is almost certainly going to have his work cut out to stay on the list at the end of 2011, Still was very young and very raw, Carlisle showed some signs also and worked hard, however, your not going to kick goals from the wing. The small forwards were also very disappointing with no small forward having a day out. Michael Quinn was a workhorse but we could not rely on a 3rd year irish experiment to kick all our goals. Bellchambers and Laycock showed some good signs at times before they were forced elsewhere and Jason Cloke was not left in the one position for more than a half all year. The plethora of 'tall' forwards that Bendigo recruited was very disappoining with non of Serhat Tehmel, Lochlan Delahunty or James Bristow doing much of a job when they were played.

I hope for a bigger recruitment of VFL guys for next season so we may find some what of a bit more potency in the front half around goal.

COACHING: Shannon Grant was an exceptional coach this year. He spoke clearly and precisely, never tried to over complicate things certainly from my point of view has the respect of the playing group as a whole. The assistants (Essendon assistants Adrian Hickmont - Ashley Prescott) were not as clear cut and precise and were the opposite. Complicating things, putting many ideas into the heads of our guys.

GAME PLAN: The game plan it self seemed very, very similar to that of the senior side. 2 handballs out to a player in space and then a long kick forward. Basic stuff really, we never had the skill set to fully implement this with a polished finish. Our clearing from the defensive kickout was another weakness we had through the majority of the year, often struggling to get it out. We lacked variety from out kick ins and hardly changed it up when we did stick with a zone kick in.

AWARDS: This season saw some outstanding contributions from some young raw kids whilst some of the more seasoned players were a figure of consistancy with the likes of Jason Cloke and Hayden Skipworth playing good football all year.

Nick Carter Best & Fairest Winner: Trent Shinners
Runners Up: Jason Cloke
Rising Star: Shane Page
Goal Kicking: Michael Still (20 goals)
Clubmen Award: James Flaherety/Hayden Skipworth


Hope people enjoy the read as I am just trying to shed some light on the year that Bendigo had.

Thanks guys

HFF_07

DVD Player
11 Sep 2010, 14:38
Your writing is so beautiful. Reading your work is like reading 19th Century Poetry. I actually cried during your Coaching paragraph, or should I say Stanza, due to your magnificent word play. If I could compare that piece of writing to food, it would be an already peeled orange.

pazza
11 Sep 2010, 16:22
Showed an amazing level of improvement from what it was like a year ago.

Grant showed that the right attitude can deliver results.

If I was picking the awards:

Best And Fairest: Jason Cloke
2nd and 3rd: Ben Duscher, Trent Shinners
Rising Star: Ben Duscher
Goalkicking: Michael Still
Clubman: Bachar Houli

HFF_07
11 Sep 2010, 17:23
Showed an amazing level of improvement from what it was like a year ago.

Grant showed that the right attitude can deliver results.

If I was picking the awards:

Best And Fairest: Jason Cloke
2nd and 3rd: Ben Duscher, Trent Shinners
Rising Star: Ben Duscher
Goalkicking: Michael Still
Clubman: Bachar Houli

If Benny Duscher is in the top 3 of the B&F, Bendigo must be a sad state of affairs for a player to play not even half the season and he comes top 3..

saladin
11 Sep 2010, 18:57
nice review.

I found the year an excellent one, with lots of little cameo's from various players. We tended to run in streaks, winning multiple games on end, then falling away, then coming good again (to a lesser extent) at the end before running into the finals without most of the mids who held it together during the year.

agree with HFF about shinners. should win the B&F imo. was consistently good in output week-in, week-out. agree again on Page. impressive young player. Scanlon had a slightly indifferent year. Possibly because he was squeezed to the margins by the essendon-listed mids, especially during the middle of the season.

Marig should be right up in the reckoning, but the injured hip saw him miss some footy. Crameri was solid all year and can be proud of his year. Consistency across the year in contrast to a difficult one last season. I really liked the all-to-brief display from Silverlock, showed a fair bit up forward but also pushing up the ground. James played some nice footy, as did Thompson and collins late in the year. Young Liddle has some spark and creativity too. I'm also keen to see the progress of Lachlan Delahunty next year. Has a very nice pair of hands in the marking contest. will watch with interest.

Bellchambers and Tslatts continue to build nicely. jetta made some good cameo appearances in a season interspersed with injury, suspension and senior footy, before finishing very well with an excellent hitout against Collingwood and then following it up with great work for Essendon. he was missed badly in the elimination final, as were Myers, crameri and marig.

best win of the year for me was the hard-fought triumph over a very seasoned Collingwood late in the year to basically seal a finals berth. we started to lose key players to Essendon after this point.

it really was a very good season. any time you can come from stone-cold winless last to make the finals you can be pleased with the efforts and result.

HFF_07
11 Sep 2010, 19:15
nice little review.

I found the year an excellent one, with lots of little cameo's from various players. We tended to run in streaks, winning multiple games on end, then falling away, then coming good again (to a lesser extent) at the end before running into the finals without most of the mids who held it together during the year.

Totally agree Saladin. I just want some consistency in the Bendigo line up, do you think we can improve or was it a Kangaroos type year where we over achieved and will fall away next year?

agree with HFF about shinners. should win the B&F imo. was consistently good in output week-in, week-out. agree again on Page. impressive young player. Scanlon had a slightly indifferent year. Possibly because he was squeezed to the margins by the essendon-listed mids, especially during the middle of the season.

What do you see the top 5 - 10 finish Saladin? I think we will see quite a few Essendon listed players?

Marig should be right up in the reckoning, but the injured hip saw him miss some footy. Crameri was solid all year and can be proud of his year. Consistency across the year in contrast to a difficult one last season. I really liked the all-to-brief display from Silverlock, showed a fair bit up forward but also pushing up the ground. James played some nice footy, as did Thompson and collins late in the year. Young Liddle has some spark and creativity too. I'm also keen to see the progress of Lachlan Delahunty next year. Has a very nice pair of hands in the marking contest. will watch with interest.

I am not sure Marig will poll all that welll, compared to last season he was down a little bit (just my opinion of watching him though), Crameri was solid all year, not outstanding but had some solid consistency. I think we have a player on our hands in Silverlock [watch this space]. Some of the Bendigo guys were good in patches but were far to inconsistant with James and Duscher probably the two most consistant (apart from Cloke and Skipworth [when he played]). Collins is good, thought he was a bit over awed in the final and looked a little bit lost whilst Delahunty was no where ti be seen. He is actually playing in the VFL young guns game tomorrow, are you going? PM Me?

Bellchambers and Tslatts continue to build nicely. jetta made some good cameo appearances in a season interspersed with injury, suspension and senior footy, before finishing very well with an excellent hitout against Collingwood and then following it up with great work for Essendon. he was missed badly in the elimination final, as were Myers, crameri and marig.

I do think the Essendon guys held Bendigo up. Would like to find some more VFL guys that can hold there own, think we have some holes to fill in the Bendigo line up also.

it really was a very good season. any time you can come from stone-cold winless last to make the finals you can be pleased with the efforts and result.

Totally agree, from a team that was a rabble last year to a now finals team was a super effort.

Just a quick question. Do you think the dropping of the reserves grade was a good idea? and; would you like to see the reserves grade back for season 2011? I think some of the Essendon guys, and to a lesser extenet Bendigo guys were not up to a (VFL) seniors football level.

Thanks buddy

saladin
11 Sep 2010, 22:56
the net effect of dropping the bendigo reserves is difficult to quantify. overall, i think it makes sense. there is no way you'll convince the best talent of the BFL to play for the BB reserves. so you effectively end up with fill-ins playing for a side that is already composed of fill-ins for the BB seniors. hence they got thumped every week. I guess the entire set-up will live and die on the essendon injury situation. if BB take to the field most weeks with 12-16 essendon listed, and then a targeted 8-10 genuine VFL players available, the side should go well. as evidenced by this year. But it's still not perfect. In some weeks, a clean injury sheet would see several essendon players not get a game due to the 12/10 rule. that's not ideal either. how often will we have a full list? probably not often tbh, but still.

So overall, i think ditching the reserves is a good move. It's probably saved the BB club, and it allows them to focus on signing up a smaller core of better players. I liked the mix they had this year. if they can push the case of local kids - like Page and stroobants- then it can only strengthen the viability of the club. getting seasoned guys like Scanlon and Cloke is a must as well. but neither situation is perfect.


As for top 5, i haven't really thought about the B&F until your post. I'm not sure about the voting system. But i'd hazard a guess that the top 5 would come from Shinners, Crameri, Marigliani (especially early), Houli, Cloke. Not sure about the order. As i said, i'm not aware of voting criteria. Some B&F's reward consistent, reliable output. oh, and Howlett will (or should) rack up votes in pretty much every game he played too.

George Washington
11 Sep 2010, 23:04
nice review.

I found the year an excellent one, with lots of little cameo's from various players. We tended to run in streaks, winning multiple games on end, then falling away, then coming good again (to a lesser extent) at the end before running into the finals without most of the mids who held it together during the year.

I think you will find this synced in pretty well with Essendon's injury list. With the down patch between rounds 11-15ish and towards the end of the season as well.

Cheers HFF. :thumbsu:

enforcer7
12 Sep 2010, 08:31
If Benny Duscher is in the top 3 of the B&F, Bendigo must be a sad state of affairs for a player to play not even half the season and he comes top 3..
so you wouldnt even give benny duscher rising star?:confused: if the kid played earlyer in the year when he maybe should of he would of been a real chance 4 the b&f lets hope he gets a chance next year.;) i think cloke will win it just

HFF_07
12 Sep 2010, 14:17
so you wouldnt even give benny duscher rising star?:confused: if the kid played earlyer in the year when he maybe should of he would of been a real chance 4 the b&f lets hope he gets a chance next year.;) i think cloke will win it just

I didn't give him the B&F because he has already had two seasons of VFL footy (2008, 2007) ;)

northcote_cowboy
12 Sep 2010, 15:03
:thumbsu: Great post. Very informative.

lemon chicken
12 Sep 2010, 18:45
Just to clear something up is any of this thread factual or is it purely opinion based?

yaco55
12 Sep 2010, 18:48
Just to clear something up is any of this thread factual or is it purely opinion based?

HFF's initial post is his observations from watching most Bendigo games.

So it is mainly factual with some opinion.

HFF_07
12 Sep 2010, 18:48
Just to clear something up is any of this thread factual or is it purely opinion based?

Is anything on BigFooty factual? :D

yaco55
12 Sep 2010, 18:51
Is anything on BigFooty factual? :D

Dont be so hard on yourself.:D

As long as you have seen a game live, or on TV, or on video, your opinion holds some merit.

lemon chicken
12 Sep 2010, 18:52
It reads as if the B&F results have already been anounced, but they havent been.

HFF_07
12 Sep 2010, 18:54
It reads as if the B&F results have already been anounced, but they havent been.

I'm just that good Lemon Chicken :D

Nuh, B&F is next Friday night

yaco55
12 Sep 2010, 19:07
I'm just that good Lemon Chicken :D

Nuh, B&F is next Friday night

Are you attending the B and F ?

HFF_07
12 Sep 2010, 19:11
Are you attending the B and F ?

Would love to go, seriously considering it..

Not sure I can afford it though, car rego gue :o

yaco55
12 Sep 2010, 20:26
Would love to go, seriously considering it..

Not sure I can afford it though, car rego gue :o

Car rego - Dont have to worry about that in HK - Publi transport is fantastic.

HFF_07
12 Sep 2010, 20:28
Car rego - Dont have to worry about that in HK - Publi transport is fantastic.

HaHa

Melbourne transport is pathetic, road system is worse..

yaco55
12 Sep 2010, 20:38
HaHa

Melbourne transport is pathetic, road system is worse..

But the weather has been crap this weekend in HK.

saladin
18 Sep 2010, 10:34
quinn won! from crameri and houli.

i tipped the last two. never thought quinn would win.

Skeeta Olly
18 Sep 2010, 10:40
By the sounds of the reports, he did have a good start to the season.

Kong
18 Sep 2010, 12:52
Kep won it the year he was delisted...

lemon chicken
18 Sep 2010, 14:56
By the sounds of the reports, he did have a good start to the season.

Didnt play until May and ened up playing last 14 games. Buggered if i know who's doing the votes, must be watching from the bar.

pazza
18 Sep 2010, 21:05
IRISH!!!

From Crameri and Houli.

Billy Bob65
20 Sep 2010, 12:11
With the reintroduction of a reserves side next year, I am hoping for Bendigo to look for a small defender rather than rely on the Essendon stocks for the year.

Wait....what?

I believe you're talking out of your arse.

So after much discussion about the alignment, Essendon re-sign for 2 years with the Bendigo reserves disappearing so they can create a better VFL squad of 20 players than what they had with 45 to choose from. Essendon was happy to pay out the extra money the VFL wanted as without reserves they saw us as a standalone side and Bendigo seem happy with the new way of doing things for their market, but they're suddenly going to backflip back to having reserves, which has never worked?

Slattery_20
20 Sep 2010, 12:14
Showed an amazing level of improvement from what it was like a year ago.

Grant showed that the right attitude can deliver results.

If I was picking the awards:

Best And Fairest: Jason Cloke
2nd and 3rd: Ben Duscher, Trent Shinners

zip, zip and zip. 0-3!

Slattery_20
20 Sep 2010, 12:17
Wait....what?

I believe you're talking out of your arse.

So after much discussion about the alignment, Essendon re-sign for 2 years with the Bendigo reserves disappearing so they can create a better VFL squad of 20 players than what they had with 45 to choose from. Essendon was happy to pay out the extra money the VFL wanted as without reserves they saw us as a standalone side and Bendigo seem happy with the new way of doing things for their market, but they're suddenly going to backflip back to having reserves, which has never worked?
It seems reasonably cut & dried to me:

With reserves: 0 wins. 0 wins.
Without reserves: finals.

Let's bring them back!

yaco55
21 Sep 2010, 01:06
Dont recall any of the Bendigo watchers from BB or BF selecting Quinn to win the Bendigo B and F - A bit like no-one from the media predicted that Judd would win the Brownlow.

Dont shoot the messenger !

pazza
23 Sep 2010, 08:15
Club has announced Grant will coach the team for 2011 season.

HFF_07
23 Sep 2010, 19:31
Hey Pazza

Do you know what the Bendigo Bombers team of the decade was?

I am trying to find out, but cannot seem to find it anywhere :(

Be an interesting lineup wouldn't it?