View Full Version : Reasons for the 'no comment' tactic
Mr Mojo Risin
16 Sep 2010, 13:26
I know there are a million and one threads on James Hird and the Essendon coaching position. I haven't seen one that covers what I want to so mods please close if you deem not necessary.
I don't personally think James will coach us in any capacity next year even though I would love to be proven wrong.
So if this is the case, what is the reason(s) for the 'no comment' tact both the club and James are taking?
I thought it would be fun to speculate on the reasons why they would do this presuming he is not coaching. Serious and humorous responses welcome.
It occurred to me a possible reason is so that when they appoint another coach, both the club and James can confirm that he was interested but was not successful.
This would serve the following purposes:
(a) Appease certain members that wanted James as coach that he was looked at.
(b) Allow a more stable environment for the next coach with the line that James won't be stepping in whenever he wants as he was already looked at.
(c) Take the pressure off Hird to pursue his interests without continual questioning about coaching whenever Essendon plays a bad game.
What are your thoughts/reasonings/concoctions?
The Donners
16 Sep 2010, 13:38
In all seriousness, as I posted a couple weeks ago, I don't want to have any thoughts that Sir James will be at Essendon next year as an assistant or whatnot (outside of his father/son mentoring role). However, the "no comment" yesterday (I only heard Scott Lucas say this on SEN) has me quite baffled and unfortunately has given me hope...
Not saying I want him as senior coach, as I don't and I think it would be absurd, but would be happy with an assistant role or even a Malthouse/Buckley situation if he is 100% committed. Not sure whether it's my head or my heart that wants this scenario.
stugots
16 Sep 2010, 14:56
would be happy with an assistant role or even a Malthouse/Buckley situation if he is 100% committed.
in a perfect world the 'Malthouse/Buckley' scenario is what most (99.9999%l?) supporters would be wishing for
too bad its far from a perfect world, but until its ruled out we can all hope, no?
The Donners
16 Sep 2010, 15:00
in a perfect world the 'Malthouse/Buckley' scenario is what most (99.9999%l?) supporters would be wishing for
too bad its far from a perfect world, but until its ruled out we can all hope, no?
I don't want to hope, it could seriously effect my mental state if I hope it becomes factual..... only to be left deflated! :(
Eleven 38
16 Sep 2010, 17:20
i think the Malthouse/Buckley scenario belongs in the "if kevin sheedy was still coach" thread because nobody is going to take on a senior coaching role and not get a crack at a flag, if the example we are talking about is choco/hird or laidley/hird....
however if we'd done it with sheeds/hird for 2008-10 maybe it could have happened..
stugots
16 Sep 2010, 17:25
I don't want to hope, it could seriously effect my mental state if I hope it becomes factual..... only to be left deflated! :(
i hear ya, every time Hirdy wont declare yay or nay me involuntary twitches kicks in
i think the Malthouse/Buckley scenario belongs in the "if kevin sheedy was still coach" thread because nobody is going to take on a senior coaching role and not get a crack at a flag, if the example we are talking about is choco/hird or laidley/hird....
however if we'd done it with sheeds/hird for 2008-10 maybe it could have happened..
there's no other senior job for the likes of choco or laidley to take on so i think they would be interested in this. particularly choco - he has had a good relationship with EFC previously including Hird. The Williams/Hird combo could definitely work.
The Donners
16 Sep 2010, 17:34
i think the Malthouse/Buckley scenario belongs in the "if kevin sheedy was still coach" thread because nobody is going to take on a senior coaching role and not get a crack at a flag, if the example we are talking about is choco/hird or laidley/hird....
however if we'd done it with sheeds/hird for 2008-10 maybe it could have happened..
This is the eternal optimist in me, but..........
If we happen to pick up Mundy, Jones, Tambling and Brodie Smith (or whoever we pick up with no. 8) to add to Watson, Stanton, Winderlich, Zaharakis, Myers, Colyer, Melksham, 3 years may be all they need. Gumby, Hurley, Pears, Hooker, Ryder - mid 20s.
Said coach could get a crack.
Dunn - Well Done
16 Sep 2010, 18:57
I think he will be an assistant next year
Hes ruled out coaching essendon
but he hasnt ruled out being an assistant coach or mentor or development coach or bendigo coach. That NO COMMENT is purely so he wont let something out saying he will be doing a coaching role (not head coach). My money is that we end up with Choco as our head coach and Hird with another coaching role.
I personally would like the other Scott from Fremantle?? thoughts
smcateer
17 Sep 2010, 07:12
Hird = Watson = Voss = failure. (Love to be wrong, BTW.)
The "no comment" was designed to widen the rift between my heart and brain. Is it Oct 1 yet? I'm bleeding here.
sen entertainment bloke
17 Sep 2010, 07:21
Hird isn't really making no comment. He is just not making the same comment again.
I'm guessing he'll be here as an assistant coach next year.
ManWithNoName
17 Sep 2010, 08:48
He's probably just sick of saying "no I won't coach essendon next year" again and again only to continually be asked
He's probably just sick of saying "no I won't coach essendon next year" again and again only to continually be asked
Except this only encourages ppl to keep asking him if the club say "no comment".
In all seriousness, as I posted a couple weeks ago, I don't want to have any thoughts that Sir James will be at Essendon next year as an assistant or whatnot (outside of his father/son mentoring role). However, the "no comment" yesterday (I only heard Scott Lucas say this on SEN) has me quite baffled and unfortunately has given me hope...
Not saying I want him as senior coach, as I don't and I think it would be absurd, but would be happy with an assistant role or even a Malthouse/Buckley situation if he is 100% committed. Not sure whether it's my head or my heart that wants this scenario.
That's exactly I how feel about it. the 'On the couch' comments confused me no end. Would prefer he just said a flat no,but still hold a hope that his back at the club in some capacity as an assistant, head coach in waiting.
He's probably just sick of saying "no I won't coach essendon next year" again and again only to continually be asked
I think the problem is, he has never actually said that.
Everything thus far has had some sort of condition or left open in some way, shape or form.
I have always thought Hird was no hope, but after the events of last Monday for James to still refuse to comment further left be staggered to be honest.
He either loves the attention, or is seriously weighing up the option, or knows he will be at the club, in some way.
I think the problem is, he has never actually said that.
Everything thus far has had some sort of condition or left open in some way, shape or form.
I have always thought Hird was no hope, but after the events of last Monday for James to still refuse to comment further left be staggered to be honest.
He either loves the attention, or is seriously weighing up the option, or knows he will be at the club, in some way.
I think Hirdy may have realised that 3-5 years may equal never. This is his true golden opportuntity - there is no guarantee it will pop up again and by then he may have been out of the game for too long.
None of us want the coaching job up for grabs again in 3 years time, Essendon hopefully with whoever gets the job does not need a new coach in 3 -5 years. That prospect should scare him a little if he has a desire to coach Essendon one day.
ManWithNoName
17 Sep 2010, 11:07
I think the problem is, he has never actually said that.
Everything thus far has had some sort of condition or left open in some way, shape or form.
I have always thought Hird was no hope, but after the events of last Monday for James to still refuse to comment further left be staggered to be honest.
He either loves the attention, or is seriously weighing up the option, or knows he will be at the club, in some way.
Apart from saying "If the club asked me, I'd say no"?
That seems a pretty clear no to me.
As has been said before if James declares he wants the job and he subsequently doesn't get it the pressure on the coach that does get it will be enormous knowing that he will always have James Hird's shadow behind him.
We need to be selecting the right man for the job and James Hird announcing publicly he wants the job will only hinder the selection process.
Apart from saying "If the club asked me, I'd say no"?
That seems a pretty clear no to me.
when did he say this, without a condition? ie, unless things changed blah blah which rendered the whole comment useless?
Never jimmy hird it once.
He was always saying, 'at the moment no' or 'thing will have to dramatically change' etc