Tour Game: Australia v Indian Presidents XI (Sat - Mon)

[Cousin Jed]

Smith playing for Hussey, George for Bollinger with both being in South Africa

http://www.cricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2010/engine/current/match/464525.html

[Cousin Jed]

2 of Australia's 3 best batsmen score centuries.

[Ill Chicken]

Fairly average bowling attack from the Indians. This match won't count for much at all besides seeing how Hauritz and Smith go with the ball.

[Doodlesweaver]

Fairly average bowling attack from the Indians. This match won't count for much at all besides seeing how Hauritz and Smith go with the ball.

Both Chawla and Ohja are better than Hauritz. And Sreesanth may be in the starting 11 for India. The attack isn't that bad.

Sreesanth can be a dangerous bowler when he's not busy being an attention-seeking jerk. All though he has multi-tasked in the past.

[Indian_Hotdog]

Ponting fails yet again.

On this road , he really should be doing better.

[Ill Chicken]

Both Chawla and Ohja are better than Hauritz. And Sreesanth may be in the starting 11 for India. The attack isn't that bad.

Sreesanth can be a dangerous bowler when he's not busy being an attention-seeking jerk. All though he has multi-tasked in the past.

Mate, the attack is a pile of crap. You're kidding yourself if you think those two blokes are better Hauritz. Sreesanth is the epitome of Indian quick bowlers, capable of brilliance but 99% of the time wallowing in mediocrity.

[Cousin Jed]

Marcus North 124* off 128

[Indian_Hotdog]

Mate, the attack is a pile of crap. You're kidding yourself if you think those two blokes are better Hauritz. Sreesanth is the epitome of Indian quick bowlers, capable of brilliance but 99% of the time wallowing in mediocrity.

Sreeshanth , Zaheer and Ishant will be a difficult trio for the aussies to handle.Add Bhaji , Ohja and Mishra in and that will be potent attack that can get 20.

[Doodlesweaver]

Mate, the attack is a pile of crap. You're kidding yourself if you think those two blokes are better Hauritz. Sreesanth is the epitome of Indian quick bowlers, capable of brilliance but 99% of the time wallowing in mediocrity.

Pragyan Ojha is far, far from crap. He's new to international cricket and has a big future ahead of him. He has a nice action and a lot of control.

And I'm sure he's better than Hauritz. Any Indian spin bowler who has managed to make it into A teams and get some tests has to have a lot going for them. The competition is so fierce.

Sreesanth is unreliable but can bowl beautifully if everything is in place in that strange head of his.

I'll bet this wicket is a pudding.

[Selective Retention]

Cricket on the sub continent. Oh so engaging.

[Ill Chicken]

We not talking about potential here. On face value you have two young spinners who are internationally very inexperienced.

The attack is a pile of crap and the scoreboard reflects it.

[whats_at_stake]

Ojha's 32 overs 9 maidens 2-63 at an economy rate of 1.92 in a pitch offering very little and the other bowlers getting smashed would suggest he is quite good.

[Ill Chicken]

So in conclusion, Ojha is a one man bowling attack, which can be rightfully labelled a pile of crap.

[whats_at_stake]

The bowling attack is a reasonably solid one for a President's 11. Ojha is superier to Hauritz (and we will see this when he bowls), Chawla is young but has a bright future in front of him. Sreesanth is erratic but is coming back from an injury and may actually play in the first test.

Not the best attack but to label it crap is ridicolous- so if Australia fail to take any wickets on this pitch is their attack now crap as well??

[Ill Chicken]

As I've said, it isn't about potential, it is about the here and now. Hauritz is a far better spinner than Ojha (we will see this when he bowls). Smith is not quite on the same level as Chawla but needless to say, they're both average. Sreesanth in comparison to Johnson, Hilfenhaus and even George, is a pauper.

To say that it is comparable to an international XI's bowling attack is ridiculous.

[Jimpson]

Ponting fails yet again.

On this road , he really should be doing better.

42 is not a failure. Gambhir making 8 is a failure.

[Ill Chicken]

42 is not a failure. Gambhir making 8 is a failure.

I disagree, 42 is a failure. By that stage, you're in. Having said that, it was the start of the second day.

[OzBomber]

Marcus North's position cemented for the Summer. :(

[Jimpson]

I disagree, 42 is a failure. By that stage, you're in. Having said that, it was the start of the second day.

You'd take 42 for a first hit-out in foreign conditions and not having played a competitive match for almost 3 months.

Geez a few of the Indians have some highly inflated batting averages. Rahane and Pujara are into the 60's. Probably the first time they've faced half-decent seamers.

[whats_at_stake]

I guess Australia has won the early battle against both Gambhir and Pujara who are both in India's squad (Gambhir will play, Pujara will not). However both Smith and Hauritz have been smashed. Hauritz with 9 overs 0-46 and Smith 2 over 0-20.

[Ill Chicken]

Hauritz has performed no worse than their spinners and is an obvious focal point much like Krezja on the previous tour, he'll come back strongly in tomorrow mornings session. Smith in general goes the journey, so no surprises.

[Jimpson]

Indians always seem to want to impose themselves against the spinner in the warm up games. I remember the last tour Krezja went for about 0/200 off 30 overs in the warm-up before proceeding to get 12, albeit expensive, wickets in the last test.

Hauritz should go alright, but we hope most damage will be done by the seamers and if Watson is fit enough he should factor in with his reverse.

[albundysmate]

Sreeshanth , Zaheer and Ishant will be a difficult trio for the aussies to handle.Add Bhaji , Ohja and Mishra in and that will be potent attack that can get 20.


sreeshanth is a pie chucker and he won't worry the aussies and never has. ishant a shaddow of his former self. zaheer and the spinners are the only ones that might trouble the aussies. but i expect the indians to produce roads to make sure it's going to be a drawn series

[amer]

5/47 for the Hilf.

[Jimpson]

Getting out for 9, on the other hand, is a failure

[albundysmate]

going for quick runs of course. they should have sent them in again, give the bowlers one more crack at them. benny is going to be the man we need come the ashes

[Ill Chicken]

Getting out for 9, on the other hand, is a failure

Disagree again. 0-10 is not a failure in comparison to getting to 40 and not going on.

[Ill Chicken]

going for quick runs of course. they should have sent them in again, give the bowler one more crack at them. benny is going to be the man we need come the ashes

They'll put them back in during the middle session or just before tea.

[Jimpson]

Disagree again. 0-10 is not a failure in comparison to getting to 40 and not going on.

Watson's home summer last year was one epic fail then for getting 60 in every knock and not going on with it.

And Ponting got out in the third over of a new day so he was effectively starting over again from 0 anyway.

[Ill Chicken]

Yes it was from Watson or any opener for that matter and Watson's average reflects it.

[Jimpson]

He averaged 60-odd for the summer, far and away the best for all teams involved.

I know what you're trying to say but I just don't see it, you'd always take more runs than less. Besides, this isn't a test match, the idea is to bat as long as possible to get adapted to the pitch. Had he got two scores of 9 off 6 balls he'd have achieved nothing.

[YOTC]

Ricky Ponting is a liability in India.

Hey ricky here's something you've never done before, won a test series as captain in India. It's not just the ashes, how about you achieve that first?

[whats_at_stake]

Ricky Ponting is a liability in India.

Hey ricky here's something you've never done before, won a test series as captain in India. It's not just the ashes, how about you achieve that first?

I thought he technically won the series a few years ago 2-1 when he returned for the Mumbai test but was injured for the rest?

[Doodlesweaver]

Considering that Ben Hilfenhaus regularly outbowls Johnson whenever they line-up together and has done ever since the beginning of the Ashes, I'm hoping this series might stop the journos running to Johnson for his usual 'leader of the attack' garbage before each series

Ben never talks crap in the press. In fact, he hardly talks at all and mostly just gets on with his job.

Good lad that.

[albundysmate]

they should give themselves 50 overs to knock this mob off. but i doubt they will.

benny hilf has to stay fit this summer

[whats_at_stake]

Johnson did say something about leading the attack in some article on Cricinfo- will be interesting to see if he backs it up.

I see a lot of similarities with Sharma and Johnson- both when they turn it on are matchwinners and unplayable but both are very inconsistent.

[Doodlesweaver]

Johnson did say something about leading the attack in some article on Cricinfo- will be interesting to see if he backs it up.

I see a lot of similarities with Sharma and Johnson- both when they turn it on are matchwinners and unplayable but both are very inconsistent.

Johnson actually bowled reasonably well at Sehwag in the ODI series in India last year. He bowled him three times I think before he really got going. If he can replicate that, it will be mighty handy.

[Doodlesweaver]

I thought he technically won the series a few years ago 2-1 when he returned for the Mumbai test but was injured for the rest?

Gilly owns that one and Punter knows it. Adam Gilchrist once said that it was his biggest achievement, captaining Australia to a series win in India.

[Ill Chicken]

Johnson did say something about leading the attack in some article on Cricinfo- will be interesting to see if he backs it up.

I see a lot of similarities with Sharma and Johnson- both when they turn it on are matchwinners and unplayable but both are very inconsistent.

Johnson needs to keep as far away from the media as possible. Him talking up bowling short to Sehwag is ridiculous. All he is doing is placing added pressure on himself.

[YOTC]

I thought he technically won the series a few years ago 2-1 when he returned for the Mumbai test but was injured for the rest?
Captained the only loss and would put it on his CV? He'd have balls. Easily Gillys.

I remember a quote from Matthew Hayden they played on fox sports promo before the next series in India. Not exact words but it was along the lines or "Gilly added some fresh ideas to the team and it helped us get over the line, you can't just always have 3 slips and a gully"

[Ill Chicken]

Hopefully Hauritz knocks up a nice little average builder here so that they realise he should bat ahead of Johnson.

Can't believe they don't have live score commentary on this game considering there'd be a million Indians putting their hand up for it surely?

[Doodlesweaver]

Hopefully Hauritz knocks up a nice little average builder here so that they realise he should bat ahead of Johnson.

Can't believe they don't have live score commentary on this game considering there'd be a million Indians putting their hand up for it surely?

When I compare this test line-up with the last one that went to India (and adding in Punter's truly weird captaincy on certain occasions in the last series) I do feel slightly more confident.

The bowlers are standing on both legs, Cam White is nowhere near the team masquerading as a spin bowler and Tim Paine is unlikely to embarrass the nation by throwing his glove at a ball.

That's a start anyhow.

I don't think we'll win but at least we should be able to put up a fight.

Of course though there is the knowledge of batting frailties to uindermine the confidence, so it ain't that high.

[Jimpson]

Come on Ricky, I'm pretty sure Hilfenhaus doesnt need batting practice. Get the bowlers back in ffs.

[Doodlesweaver]

Come on Ricky, I'm pretty sure Hilfenhaus doesnt need batting practice. Get the bowlers back in ffs.

Did the same with the only Pakistan warm-up match in England, they even called it off early instead of giving the bowlers a few more overs.

The management of the Aus team sucks fairly frequently but then they get these duff schedules thrown at them by CA who appear to agree to just about anything that they think will turn a buck.

[Cousin Jed]

Watson using up all his century power in the warmup game

Captained the only loss and would put it on his CV? He'd have balls. Easily Gillys.

I remember a quote from Matthew Hayden they played on fox sports promo before the next series in India. Not exact words but it was along the lines or "Gilly added some fresh ideas to the team and it helped us get over the line, you can't just always have 3 slips and a gully"

3 slips? 1 too many for Ricky. ;)

[albundysmate]

should have sent them straight back in. the batters got a good hit out in the first innings. the bowlers need all the match pratice they can get

[Doodlesweaver]

should have sent them straight back in. the batters got a good hit out in the first innings. the bowlers need all the match pratice they can get

Can you get their thinking? Mitchell Johnson so far in the match has had 12 overs or so.

Why do they bowl him so little in warm-up matches when he is such a loose cannon? It makes no sense.

[Ill Chicken]

And they haven't thrown the ball to North at all.

[Cleavy]

well that 2nd inngs (bowling) was a fizzer