2011 Geelong list and number changes

[SJ]

Following the thread we kept on last year's list changes (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=644486), I'll be doing the same this year and tracking official changes for 2011. Please keep list speculation to other discussion threads and keep this for official updates.

2010 list
1 Mitchell Brown
3 Jimmy Bartel
4 Andrew Mackie
5 Travis Varcoe
6 Brad Ottens
7 Harry Taylor
8 Josh Hunt
9 James Kelly
10 Daniel Menzel
11 Joel Corey
12 Trent West
13 Tom Lonergan
14 Joel Selwood
15 Ryan Gamble - delisted (19 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104265/default.aspx)
16 Dawson Simpson
17 Shannon Byrnes
18 Nathan Djerrkura - traded to Western Bulldogs for 2010 National Draft selection No. 57 (8 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103908/default.aspx)
20 Steve Johnson
21 Cameron Mooney
22 Mitchell Duncan
23 Marcus Drum
24 Mark Blake
25 Tom Gillies
26 Tom Hawkins
27 Mathew Stokes
28 Allen Christensen
29 Gary Ablett - signed by Gold Coast Football Club, uncontracted player compensation Round One and mid-Round One selections (29 September) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103436/default.aspx)
30 Matthew Scarlett
31 James Podsiadly - promoted to senior list (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
32 Steven Motlop
33 Max Rooke - retired (13 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104106/default.aspx)
34 Simon Hogan
35 Paul Chapman
36 Nathan Vardy
37 Jeremy Laidler - traded with 2010 National Draft selection No. 41 to Carlton for selections Nos. 36 and 53 (11 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104015/default.aspx)
38 Taylor Hunt
39 Darren Milburn
40 David Wojcinski
41 Josh Cowan
42 Ranga Ediriwickrama - delisted (19 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104265/default.aspx)
43 Jack Weston
44 Corey Enright
45 Cameron Ling
46 Adam Varcoe - delisted (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
47 Ben Johnson
48 Tom Allwright - delisted (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
49 Jesse Stringer

Official 2011 list
1 Mitchell Brown
2 Billie Smedts - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 15 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
3 Jimmy Bartel
4 Andrew Mackie
5 Travis Varcoe
6 Brad Ottens
7 Harry Taylor
8 Josh Hunt
9 James Kelly
10 Daniel Menzel
11 Joel Corey
12 Trent West
13 Tom Lonergan
14 Joel Selwood
15 Jordan Schroder - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 54 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
16 Dawson Simpson
17 Shannon Byrnes
18 Josh Cowan
19 Taylor Hunt
20 Steve Johnson
21 Cameron Mooney
22 Mitchell Duncan
23 Marcus Drum
24 Mark Blake
25 Tom Gillies
26 Tom Hawkins
27 Mathew Stokes
28 Allen Christensen
29 Cameron Guthrie - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 23 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
30 Matthew Scarlett
31 James Podsiadly - rookie promotion using 2010 National Draft Selection No. 58 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
32 Steven Motlop
33 George Horlin-Smith - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 37 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
34 Simon Hogan
35 Paul Chapman
36 Nathan Vardy
37 Jack Weston
38 Ben Johnson
39 Darren Milburn
40 David Wojcinski
41 Jesse Stringer
42 Joshua Walker - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 23 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
43 George Burbury - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 40 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
44 Corey Enright
45 Cameron Ling
46 Jonathan Simpkin - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 56 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
47 Ryan Bathie - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 70 (three-year non-registered rookie selection) (29 October) (http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2010/10/30/222241_gfc.html)

Incoming
National Draft Round One compensation selection (to be used within the next five years)
Billie Smedts
Cameron Guthrie
George Horlin-Smith
Jordan Schroder
Joshua Walker
George Burbury
Jonathan Simpkin
Ryan Bathie

Outgoing
Gary Ablett
Nathan Djerrkura
Jeremy Laidler
Max Rooke
Ryan Gamble
Ranga Ediwickirama
Adam Varcoe
Tom Allwright

[SJ]

http://www.afl.com.au/draft%20key%20dates/tabid/16414/default.aspx
2010 NAB AFL Draft - Key Dates

Tuesday 28 September Commencement of 2010 Draft Camp
Friday 1 October Conclusion of 2010 Draft Camp

Friday 1 October Father/son nominations lodged with the AFL

Monday 4 October Commencement of 2010 Trade Week

Monday 11 October, 2pm Conclusion of 2010 Trade Week
Friday 29 October, 2pm List lodgement one. Rookie promotions, retained second-year rookies, retained third-year international rookies, retained third-year non-registered rookies

Friday 5 November, 2pm Out of contract listed primary list players draft nomination deadline

Draft nomination deadline for new or expired (after three years) nominations

Nomination of use of compensatory selection by clubs that lose an uncontracted player to Gold Coast FC

Wednesday 10 November List lodgement two
Friday 12 November Delisted primary list draft nomination deadline

Thursday 18 November NAB AFL National Draft - Gold Coast Convention Centre
Wednesday 24 November List lodgement three
Tuesday 30 November, 2pm Delisted primary list draft nomination deadline
Tuesday 7 December, 10am NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft

NAB AFL Rookie Draft. Team GWS have selections 1-8 and the Gold Coast FC has selection nine and the first selection in each subsequent round.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft%20key%20dates/tabid/16414/default.aspx

[Hybrid7]

-1 from the 2011 list now.....

But + $800,000 in salary cap!!

[Pure_Ownage]

Can we add Pods to the senior list now that he's signed the 2 year deal? Thanks SJ.

[Hybrid7]

Would there be any way too to update the 2011 list too with when the players are contracted to?

[SJ]

Can we add Pods to the senior list now that he's signed the 2 year deal? Thanks SJ.
Got a link confirming that?

[SJ]

Would there be any way too to update the 2011 list too with when the players are contracted to?
Possibly, but I don't think there is one source to find that information. We would probably have to search through old articles individually.

[Pure_Ownage]

Got a link confirming that?

Halfway down this article:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,,27775205-23211,00.html


Geelong confirmed that James Podsiadly had signed a two-year deal after his brilliant debut season as a mature-age recruit.
The 29-year-old could have been kept on a minimum wage as a second-year rookie, but was rewarded by the Cats.


Not sure if that's conclusive enough for you?

[SJ]

Halfway down this article:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,,27775205-23211,00.html



Not sure if that's conclusive enough for you?
Yeah that's good.

Also we'll update it after the draft when we use a selection to put him onto the senior list.

[DanA]

How did Daniel O'keefe go this year? It might be worth taking a look at some of the guys that didn't quite make it last year.

[Pure_Ownage]

How did Daniel O'keefe go this year? It might be worth taking a look at some of the guys that didn't quite make it last year.

Had a bad ankle injury for us in one of the curtain raiser games, and then gave it away pretty much (I think he's sick of all the injuries he's had over the last few years). An article in the addy says he's having a serious crack at becoming a golf pro.

[Hybrid7]

Any chance of Nathan Djerrkura staying now ablett has gone?

[Pure_Ownage]

Any chance of Nathan Djerrkura staying now ablett has gone?

Nup...he wants out...the question is where and what we get in return.

[noclashjumpers]

Great thread SJ! Really found last year's one a fantastic 'first go' source.

One tiny thing that's annoying me though.:o Any chance of just getting rid of #29 from the 2011 list, in the same way that there isn't a #2 or a #19?

It's probably just me, but the gap just reinforces this notion that Gaz has left a great whopping whole in our list. ....which he has, I guess. But it's just a psychological thing.

Just being stupidly picky about what otherwise is a great resource!

[maxy87]

Interesting and informative resource.

But

Chill out everyone..

[thegrassisgreen]

Geelong has signed Ryan Bathie, 23, originally from Melton as a mature age rookie.

Bathie, is a 6’ 4” talented basketball player having played for Nicholls State University in Louisiana before returning to Australia to play for the Melbourne Tigers in the NBL.

This year he played for the Swinburne Kilsyth Cobras in the SEABL league. Bathie played for the Australian Under-18 basketball team and was member of the Australian Youth Olympics team that won the bronze medal.

[SJ]

Source?

[Farmer2Goggin]

Geelong has signed Ryan Bathie, 23, originally from Melton as a mature age rookie.

Bathie, is a 6’ 4” talented basketball player having played for Nicholls State University in Louisiana before returning to Australia to play for the Melbourne Tigers in the NBL.

This year he played for the Swinburne Kilsyth Cobras in the SEABL league. Bathie played for the Australian Under-18 basketball team and was member of the Australian Youth Olympics team that won the bronze medal.
Looks a bit bigger than stated - his bio has him at 198cm and 93Kgs......

[Russcats]

Can he play or has he ever played as a junior? Otherwise could take 3 years to develop. Unless Matty Egan gets hold of him and shows him the fast track to All Australian.

I loved the pic at Bomber's press conference with the coaches in the background and there in the middle was Egan. Hope the cats make him into a first class coach and he gets his premiership medallion one day as coach of the cats.

[SJ]

Updated for the Djerrkura trade.

[SJ]

Updated for 2010 National Draft selections.

[SJ]

Updated for Laidler and National Draft selections trade.

[candiehappy]

Updated for Laidler and National Draft selections trade.


great work SJ, genuinely appreciated

[Pure_Ownage]

Does anyone know if Gamble is contracted? Staying now or can he walk into the draft?

[SJ]

Updated for National Draft selection trade with Gold Coast.

[oozeboss]

I think our exposed vulnerabilities in the last season will mean that the old & slow will go rather than the zippy nippers.

[SJ]

Guys, I'd like to keep this thread purely for news on changes to the list.

I'll move your posts to the delisting/drafting discussion thread.

[Pure_Ownage]

For anyone who is interested, these are the upcoming dates as they relate to the formation of the 2011 list:

Friday October 29, 2pm – List Lodgement One.

Wednesday November 10, 2pm – List Lodgement Two.

Thursday November 18 – NAB AFL Draft Selection meeting, Gold Coast Convention Centre.

Wednesday November 24, 2pm – List Lodgement Three and TPP Estimates.

Tuesday December 7, 10am – NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Meeting (Microsoft Live Meeting).

Tuesday December 7, 10.10am – Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast FC and Sydney Swans Pre-Selected Rookie Nominations.

Tuesday December 7, 10.15am – NAB AFL Rookie Draft Meeting (Microsoft Live Meeting). Team GWS have selections 1-8 and the Gold Coast FC has selection nine and the first selection in each subsequent round.

[Pure_Ownage]

Sadly SJ you now have to update this list to reflect Maxy's retirement.

[SJ]

Sadly SJ you now have to update this list to reflect Maxy's retirement.
Updated.

[Rustin' Man]

Just been announced on the AFL website that Ryan Gamble is to be delisted along with rookie Ranga Ediriwickrama. Trent West is to be offered a new two year deal. Other changes to be decided by Chris Scott, according to the website.

[SJ]

Updated.

[SJ]

Adam Varcoe and Tom Allwright have been delisted prior to today's list lodgement one.

[Pure_Ownage]

Varcoe? What? I am stunned...anyway I will find another thread.

[Casablanco]

Did the AFL bring in an Inactive List for 2011? If so, would Adam Varcoe be eligible to go onto that? Seems odd that they would delist a talented bloke whos just done a knee when he could have stayed on the Rookie List for another season. Particularly with his brothers development!

[thegrassisgreen]

Geelong has signed Ryan Bathie, 23, originally from Melton as a mature age rookie.

Bathie, is a 6’ 4” talented basketball player having played for Nicholls State University in Louisiana before returning to Australia to play for the Melbourne Tigers in the NBL.

This year he played for the Swinburne Kilsyth Cobras in the SEABL league. Bathie played for the Australian Under-18 basketball team and was member of the Australian Youth Olympics team that won the bronze medal.

You heard it here first people.

[SJ]

You heard it here first people.
Where did you find this at the time?

[Pure_Ownage]

You heard it here first people.

It was a good get by you :thumbsu:

How did you know, do you know Ryan?

[thegrassisgreen]

It was a good get by you :thumbsu:

How did you know, do you know Ryan?

I could have a lot of fun with this but I won't. I do have connections very close to Bathie.

[SJ]

I could have a lot of fun with this but I won't. I do have connections very close to Bathie.
It looks like that is from an article though, where was it from?

[thegrassisgreen]

It looks like that is from an article though, where was it from?

I compiled it myself from a few online stories on him from his basketball days. I knew it would get the discussions going.

[Pure_Ownage]

I could have a lot of fun with this but I won't. I do have connections very close to Bathie.

Good. So when we want an interview with Ryan, we will call you then? ;)

[Turbocat]

I could have a lot of fun with this but I won't. I do have connections very close to Bathie.

Really , well what does he see at geelong that made him sign on the dotted line.
How quick does he think he will pick it up? Whats his expectation for season 2011? , playing at the G in front 80,000 by R5 or spending the season playing for StMarys or some other GFL side?
Does he see himself playing in the ruck or as a KPP?

By all means fill us in , we are all listening for the insights from someone with close connections to recent signing.

[GFC1859]

Thanks for the list SJ I have been overseas and haven't kept up.

[Cat Attack08]

Anyone know why pick 57 still isn't shown as our pick but Sydney's? This is meant to be the offical draft order

http://www.afl.com.au/selection%20order/tabid/16748/default.aspx

[Pure_Ownage]

Anyone know why pick 57 still isn't shown as our pick but Sydney's? This is meant to be the offical draft order

http://www.afl.com.au/selection%20order/tabid/16748/default.aspx

Because we only have 4 list spots so we had to give up picks 57 and 58 (i.e. we dont have room to use them).

[vinum coupe]

Such a waste.
Collingwood would have fallen over themselves to get those picks.

Not sure what we would have achieved though.

[Cat Attack08]

Because we only have 4 list spots so we had to give up picks 57 and 58 (i.e. we dont have room to use them).

Cheers PO :thumbsu:

So we basically traded DJK for nothing in return

[Pure_Ownage]

Cheers PO :thumbsu:

So we basically traded DJK for nothing in return

Yes.

And it also means we traded Laidler just to upgrade 57 and 41 to 36 and 53, which is pretty poor IMO.

Hence why I was calling for a couple of older blokes to do the right thing and retire so we could have 6 picks inside 60.

[Belisarius]

Spot on PO - waste of some pics IMO.

[SJ]

Updated for National Draft.

[SJ]

Updated for draftees' numbers.

[SJ]

All guernsey numbers updated.

[SJ]

Updated for rookie draft selections.

[Generalissimo]

So I assume 42=Walker, 43=Burbury, 46=Simpkin?

[SJ]

So I assume 42=Walker, 43=Burbury, 46=Simpkin?
You'd think so, unless one of them requests one of the other numbers.

[Selective Retention]

Went to check his VFL number and they have moved Simpkin to the senior list page with #46. That selection was planned a long way out I would think. You know they were probably going to pick the three that were training with us, except dogs got in and took dahlhaus.

[Geelong2k9]

You'd think so, unless one of them requests one of the other numbers.

Correct.

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/players/tabid/8264/category/senior/season/2010/default.aspx

[SJ]

"Burbery"?

[The rabbi]

Who has No 34? If it was spare you could give it to walker. I think that was Peter's number.

[Selective Retention]

Simon Hogan.

[Pure_Ownage]

I wouldn't worry too much, we're going to have so many number changes due to retirements that if Josh plays well, and he wants his grandad's number, I'm sure he'll be able to get his hands on it.

[SJ]

Following the thread we kept on last year's list changes (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=644486), I'll be doing the same this year and tracking official changes for 2011. Please keep list speculation to other discussion threads and keep this for official updates.

2010 list
1 Mitchell Brown
3 Jimmy Bartel
4 Andrew Mackie
5 Travis Varcoe
6 Brad Ottens
7 Harry Taylor
8 Josh Hunt
9 James Kelly
10 Daniel Menzel
11 Joel Corey
12 Trent West
13 Tom Lonergan
14 Joel Selwood
15 Ryan Gamble - delisted (19 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104265/default.aspx)
16 Dawson Simpson
17 Shannon Byrnes
18 Nathan Djerrkura - traded to Western Bulldogs for 2010 National Draft selection No. 57 (8 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103908/default.aspx)
20 Steve Johnson
21 Cameron Mooney
22 Mitchell Duncan
23 Marcus Drum
24 Mark Blake
25 Tom Gillies
26 Tom Hawkins
27 Mathew Stokes
28 Allen Christensen
29 Gary Ablett - signed by Gold Coast Football Club, uncontracted player compensation Round One and mid-Round One selections (29 September) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103436/default.aspx)
30 Matthew Scarlett
31 James Podsiadly - promoted to senior list (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
32 Steven Motlop
33 Max Rooke - retired (13 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104106/default.aspx)
34 Simon Hogan
35 Paul Chapman
36 Nathan Vardy
37 Jeremy Laidler - traded with 2010 National Draft selection No. 41 to Carlton for selections Nos. 36 and 53 (11 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104015/default.aspx)
38 Taylor Hunt
39 Darren Milburn
40 David Wojcinski
41 Josh Cowan
42 Ranga Ediriwickrama - delisted (19 October) (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104265/default.aspx)
43 Jack Weston
44 Corey Enright
45 Cameron Ling
46 Adam Varcoe - delisted (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
47 Ben Johnson
48 Tom Allwright - delisted (29 October) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/104751/default.aspx)
49 Jesse Stringer

Official 2011 list
1 Mitchell Brown
2 Billie Smedts - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 15 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
3 Jimmy Bartel
4 Andrew Mackie
5 Travis Varcoe
6 Brad Ottens
7 Harry Taylor
8 Josh Hunt
9 James Kelly
10 Daniel Menzel
11 Joel Corey
12 Trent West
13 Tom Lonergan
14 Joel Selwood
15 Jordan Schroder - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 54 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
16 Dawson Simpson
17 Shannon Byrnes
18 Josh Cowan
19 Taylor Hunt
20 Steve Johnson
21 Cameron Mooney
22 Mitchell Duncan
23 Marcus Drum
24 Mark Blake
25 Tom Gillies
26 Tom Hawkins
27 Mathew Stokes
28 Allen Christensen
29 Cameron Guthrie - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 23 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
30 Matthew Scarlett
31 James Podsiadly - rookie promotion using 2010 National Draft Selection No. 58 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
32 Steven Motlop
33 George Horlin-Smith - 2010 National Draft Selection No. 37 (18 November) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105379/default.aspx)
34 Simon Hogan
35 Paul Chapman
36 Nathan Vardy
37 Jack Weston
38 Ben Johnson
39 Darren Milburn
40 David Wojcinski
41 Jesse Stringer
42 Joshua Walker - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 23 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
43 George Burbury - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 40 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
44 Corey Enright
45 Cameron Ling
46 Jonathan Simpkin - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 56 (7 December) (http://www.gfc.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/105953/default.aspx)
47 Ryan Bathie - 2010 Rookie Draft Selection No. 70 (three-year non-registered rookie selection) (29 October) (http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2010/10/30/222241_gfc.html)

Incoming
National Draft Round One compensation selection (to be used within the next five years)
Billie Smedts
Cameron Guthrie
George Horlin-Smith
Jordan Schroder
Joshua Walker
George Burbury
Jonathan Simpkin
Ryan Bathie

Outgoing
Gary Ablett
Nathan Djerrkura
Jeremy Laidler
Max Rooke
Ryan Gamble
Ranga Ediwickirama
Adam Varcoe
Tom Allwright
Finalised.