14 man squad for 3 ODI's against India named

[Cousin Jed]

Michael Clarke (c)
Cameron White (vc)
Doug Bollinger
Callum Ferguson
Nathan Hauritz
James Hopes
Mike Hussey
Shaun Marsh
Clint McKay
Tim Paine
James Pattinson
Steve Smith
Mitchell Starc
David Warner.

Johnson, Ponting and Watson all rested

Explanations of various selections in here (http://www.cricket.com.au/news-display/Oneday-squad-for-VB-Tour-of-India/21990)

[Doodlesweaver]

Michael Clarke (c)
Cameron White (vc)
Doug Bollinger
Callum Ferguson
Nathan Hauritz
James Hopes
Mike Hussey
Shaun Marsh
Clint McKay
Tim Paine
James Pattinson
Steve Smith
Mitchell Starc
David Warner.

Johnson, Ponting and Watson all rested

Explanations of various selections in here (http://www.cricket.com.au/news-display/Oneday-squad-for-VB-Tour-of-India/21990)

Excellent that they are resting Watson and Johnson. I honestly couldn't give a damn whether the Aussies win this lot of one dayers or not.

[mark73]

I wish they'd rest Michael Clarke and Nathan Hauritz permanently.

[eddiesmith]

Side looking a bit better now, interesting to see McKay come from completely out of contention to 1st choice attack for this series

[Ill Chicken]

I wish they'd rest Michael Clarke and Nathan Hauritz permanently.

Hauritz's performances in ODI's are more than fair. Clarke however eats up balls and the strike like an old Mark Taylor.

[triplejdude]

We will get hammered with that line up.

I couldn't care less though.

[Ill Chicken]

At least Warner is finally back in the side.

[Cleavy]

Don't care about this series

[Covvy]

Where's Hilfy?

[Selective Retention]

Where's Hilfy?

First good decision the selectors have made for ages.

1) He ain't that good with the white ball - see list A record.

2) Everytime they pick him in one dayers he breaks down.

Save him for the tests, give some younger guys a go in the one dayers. Perfect.

Well done selectors :thumbsu::eek:

[Selective Retention]

So White, Marsh or Ferguson playing for North's spot in the test side??? The selectors are mad and often pick the test side on odi form.

[demon21]

I would think that G.Bailey would be pretty close of getting a game if he can have a good season this year hopefully a call up wont be to far away.

[Tom12]

Michael Clarke (c)
Cameron White (vc)
Doug Bollinger
Callum Ferguson
Nathan Hauritz
James Hopes
Mike Hussey
Shaun Marsh
Clint McKay
Tim Paine
James Pattinson
Steve Smith
Mitchell Starc
David Warner.

Johnson, Ponting and Watson all rested

Explanations of various selections in here (http://www.cricket.com.au/news-display/Oneday-squad-for-VB-Tour-of-India/21990)

Love the look of this squad. Might as well rest Hussey and play Smith at 5 or 6. White should hold down his spot well, rated very highly as a leader and hopefully he has a good series.

Ferguson, McKay, Warner all good selections. :)

[Phone]

still don't know how Starc is there. guess they're too cheap to send him back. Warner in there is very surprising...if only because I have no idea where he would be played. he was pretty shit opening last season but he was fairly good at 6/7.

[BarneyBent]

Tim Paine
Shaun Marsh
Michael Clarke (c)
Callum Ferguson
Cameron White (vc)
Mike Hussey
Steve Smith/David Warner
Nathan Hauritz/James Hopes/Mitch Starc
James Pattinson/Starc
Clint McKay
Doug Bollinger

That's basically the lineup I'd go in with. If Hauritz is picked, it weakens the case for Smith, and David Warner might get a go at 7. Personally I reckon Smith is a better ODI bowler than Hauritz, but Hauritz is more experienced, more of a known factor, and perhaps a little less prone to copping stick. I also think that the best possible thing for Smith's development as a cricketer is to play ODIs and T20s, and play FC cricket for NSW for another season or so.

If the selectors felt our batting was a bit lacking with Smith at 7, they could opt for Hopes at 8 instead of Hauritz, as a bit of backup (though Hauritz can swing a bat, so it's not too vital), and Smith bowls ten overs of spin.

Starc could slot in at 8 or 9, but I would have Pattinson and Hopes/Hauritz ahead of him

[Blue Dimension]

Very interesting squad. Great to see some fresh faces to reinvigorate the squad.

[Tom12]

White is underrated as a test player/bastmen in the long version of the game.
Definitley someone I'd consider picking, still youngish.

[Doodlesweaver]

Tim Paine
Shaun Marsh
Michael Clarke (c)
Callum Ferguson
Cameron White (vc)
Mike Hussey
Steve Smith/David Warner
Nathan Hauritz/James Hopes/Mitch Starc
James Pattinson/Starc
Clint McKay
Doug Bollinger

That's basically the lineup I'd go in with. If Hauritz is picked, it weakens the case for Smith, and David Warner might get a go at 7. Personally I reckon Smith is a better ODI bowler than Hauritz, but Hauritz is more experienced, more of a known factor, and perhaps a little less prone to copping stick. I also think that the best possible thing for Smith's development as a cricketer is to play ODIs and T20s, and play FC cricket for NSW for another season or so.

If the selectors felt our batting was a bit lacking with Smith at 7, they could opt for Hopes at 8 instead of Hauritz, as a bit of backup (though Hauritz can swing a bat, so it's not too vital), and Smith bowls ten overs of spin.

Starc could slot in at 8 or 9, but I would have Pattinson and Hopes/Hauritz ahead of him

With that top 3, it would be a struggle to reach 200 off 50 overs.

Go for it I'd say. I have no qualms about losing this series. Especially if Clarke is captain.

[BarneyBent]

White is underrated as a test player/bastmen in the long version of the game.
Definitley someone I'd consider picking, still youngish.

No, he is supremely overrated as a batsman in the longest form of the game. His record in the Sheffield Shield is shite. His record in Tests is shite. His County record, playing Div 2, pads out his FC stats. He's just not a test batsman. Maybe he'll undergo a Symonds-style transformation and make it as a Test batsman, but until then, until he starts performing at a consistently high level in FC cricket, he shouldn't be anywhere near the Test team.

With that top 3, it would be a struggle to reach 200 off 50 overs.

Go for it I'd say. I have no qualms about losing this series. Especially if Clarke is captain.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but it's an oddly balanced squad. I don't really like Warner much as an opener in the OD format though, and he's a fringe ODI player at best, so there weren't many options.

[Tom12]

No, he is supremely overrated as a batsman in the longest form of the game. His record in the Sheffield Shield is shite. His record in Tests is shite. His County record, playing Div 2, pads out his FC stats. He's just not a test batsman. Maybe he'll undergo a Symonds-style transformation and make it as a Test batsman, but until then, until he starts performing at a consistently high level in FC cricket, he shouldn't be anywhere near the Test team.


He just has trouble transitioning between tempo batting and slogging. He isn't ready yet, but in a few years when he's 29 or so I could see him making a case for himself. That'll come with maturity. Fantastic leader, made captain of the Vic side at a young age. If he was handier with the ball there would be a bigger case to mount for him.

[eddiesmith]

The problem for White is the Australian ODI teams spend so much time playing during our summer he doesnt get many chances to play first class cricket so his recent seasons where he averaged 48, 58 and 50 dont get noticed at all

I love the myth he doesnt make first class runs when you check out his stats :)

As for his test performances, yeah didnt do so great, he was picked at no8, not as a batsman and in a poor performance by the whole side was never going to make big runs at no8, but still an average of 30 is pretty good for a no8 and if Marcus North survives untill the end of the Ashes then he might have a higher average than North!

[Phone]

White's FC stats for Victoria

01/02 3 innings 2 not outs 12 runs
02/03 8 innings 0 not outs 144 runs
03/04 13 innings 1 not outs 241 runs
04/05 16 innings 1 not outs 465 runs 1 ton
05/06 18 innings 2 not outs 482 runs
06/07 12 innings 1 not out 437 runs 1 ton
07/08 17 innings 2 not out 748 runs 1 ton
08/09 8 innings 0 not outs 462 runs 2 tons
09/10 7 innings 2 not outs 230 runs

His stats for Somerset were

2006 22 innings 2 not outs 1190 runs 5 tons
2007 19 innings 4 not outs 1083 runs 5 tons



Put that together sometime last summer so 09/10 may be missing some stuff.

[eddiesmith]

Ended with 329 from 9 last season and an average of 48

[Tom12]

The problem for White is the Australian ODI teams spend so much time playing during our summer he doesnt get many chances to play first class cricket so his recent seasons where he averaged 48, 58 and 50 dont get noticed at all

I love the myth he doesnt make first class runs when you check out his stats :)

As for his test performances, yeah didnt do so great, he was picked at no8, not as a batsman and in a poor performance by the whole side was never going to make big runs at no8, but still an average of 30 is pretty good for a no8 and if Marcus North survives untill the end of the Ashes then he might have a higher average than North!

The fact was he was picked as a spinner when he holds just as much if not more value as a batsmen. Was used in the wrong role, which was his downfall especially when the teams performance was average.

[BarneyBent]

White's FC stats for Victoria

01/02 3 innings 2 not outs 12 runs
02/03 8 innings 0 not outs 144 runs
03/04 13 innings 1 not outs 241 runs
04/05 16 innings 1 not outs 465 runs 1 ton
05/06 18 innings 2 not outs 482 runs
06/07 12 innings 1 not out 437 runs 1 ton
07/08 17 innings 2 not out 748 runs 1 ton
08/09 8 innings 0 not outs 462 runs 2 tons
09/10 7 innings 2 not outs 230 runs

His stats for Somerset were

2006 22 innings 2 not outs 1190 runs 5 tons
2007 19 innings 4 not outs 1083 runs 5 tons



Put that together sometime last summer so 09/10 may be missing some stuff.

No coincidence that his best performances hvae been in Div 2 County cricket. His average in Sheffield Shield cricket, based on those stats, is 35.4. Those aren't the performances of a Test batsman.

[eddiesmith]

No coincidence that his best performances hvae been in Div 2 County cricket. His average in Sheffield Shield cricket, based on those stats, is 35.4. Those aren't the performances of a Test batsman.
52 over his last 3 seasons

[Dr Awkward]

I fear for crowd safety if Hauritz is bowling to Indian batsmen in an ODI in India.

No P. Hughes?

[saint_larry]

No coincidence that his best performances hvae been in Div 2 County cricket. His average in Sheffield Shield cricket, based on those stats, is 35.4. Those aren't the performances of a Test batsman.

marcus north shield average - 40
michael clarke - 43
mike hussey - 42.

also not the performance of a test batsman?
also aware of how poor north hussey & clarke are AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

[CAS79]

Hastings replacing Pattinson in the squad

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/hastings-flies-out-to-join-oneday-squad-20101011-16g2a.html

Pattinson has a recurrence of back problems he had through his teenage years.

Im hoping this is a light recurrence and precautionary more than anything but regardless this is a concern for the lad.

[albundysmate]

they rest mitch more than they play him for crying out loud. he is a bowler thaty need to play. but our selectors aren't the brightest bunch going around and they never watch any cricket to realize this. i also had to laugh at hildich saying ferguson is a test player. how would he know, he never watches any cricket

[Blue Dimension]

There's no point playing Johnson for this series. How sorry would Australia be if he injured himself in some meaningless ODI's ahead of the Ashes?

Watson, Ponting and Johnson are arguably our three most important players.

Good decision.

[whats_at_stake]

Here is the Indian team for the three ODI series- no Tendulkar, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Ojha, Gambhir, Sharma and Sehwag all rested/niggles.

Very different team- Australia should win comfortably. Ashwin gets a call up who was on fire in the Champions League.

http://www.cricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2010/content/current/story/481102.html

[Dr Awkward]

Here is the Indian team for the three ODI series- no Tendulkar, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Ojha, Gambhir, Sharma and Sehwag all rested/niggles.

Very different team- Australia should win comfortably. Ashwin gets a call up who was on fire in the Champions League.

http://www.cricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2010/content/current/story/481102.html

Interesting. It's going to be like India A vs Australia A. Will probably be a close little series although I dread the thought of Hauritz getting selected.

[whats_at_stake]

Actually I just realised no Irfan Pathan- I was hoping the selectors would give him another shot to prove himself before the World Cup. He was such a promising young fast bowler before he lost the ability to swing consistently.