GWS Giants

[little hawk gmf]

Woops. There it is!

[wally funk]

really? that's a stinker! wolves was far and away the best option provided.

[Athomas]

Says channel 10? Any other sources...?

[UrLordLeper]

dissapointed...

[The_Wookie]

i wouldnt believe it until it was announced on the AFL website

[jackoisno1]

Sydney Celtics :thumbsu:

[cos789]

Sydney Celtics :thumbsu:

I really like that for a number of reasons - it has only "Sydney" as the team , "Celtics" runs off the tongue and has an impact , GWS can own the colour green and pick up a handy ready made following .

However , I'm against that , basically it's be like Port Adelaide with a higher than usual uptake at the start then unable to expand because they are in a narrow identity band .

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[MickyCrow]

I really like that for a number of reasons - it has only "Sydney" as the team , "Celtics" runs off the tongue and has an impact , GWS can own the colour green and pick up a handy ready made following .

However , I'm against that , basically it's be like Port Adelaide with a higher than usual uptake at the start then unable to expand because they are in a narrow identity band .

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Plus the whole Port Power/Port Magpies debate will PALE in comparison to the supporter wars over Cell-tic or Kell-tic

[Cheer Squad]

Woops. There it is!

So is GWS the prefix or is just going to be Giants?

[Tazwegian]

Plus the whole Port Power/Port Magpies debate will PALE in comparison to the supporter wars over Cell-tic or Kell-tic

Sports teams pronounce it cell-tick :thumbsu:

[Tazwegian]

GWS Spartans?

[JR SWALLOW]

Why not the Greater Western Sydney Diamondbacks.
Like the Western diamondback rattlesnake??

[Kapital city TIGER]

Woops. There it is!

Boo I wanted HOODS!

LAME if true.

Celtic? have you people BEEN to GWS???? ffs

may have to reconsider rolling over my ACT4GWS pledge into a membership if it is that the GWS team will be so boringly named.

how big are these giants anyway? are we talking Norse or Greek mythos variety giants (about the size of Sandilands), or Jolly Green Giants (can have a giant bong emblem which will gather support from across the GWS region thats for sure, even from untapped market of non-sports fan bongheads)

or even bigger, like, say the size of their salary cap and other concessions?

[Black Falcon]

GWS Spartans?

Much prefer Spartans to Giants- too Yankee.
Has anyone posted the Spartak Moscow moniker yet ?
Just checked on it: some lame red diamond thingy.

[Bowakawa]

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/Jay4P/gws.png?t=1288100797
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/Jay4P/gwslogo.png?t=1288100946

[cos789]

That's a reason I don't like Giants .
Railways , Towners , Whalers anything but Giants
If you're thinking Spartans then Sydney Olympics is the obvious choice .

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[UrLordLeper]

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/Jay4P/gws.png?t=1288100797
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/Jay4P/gwslogo.png?t=1288100946

That is an impressive jumper design, but considering they'll be in direct competition with the Swans, I doubt they'll be using white or red on their strip.. They wouldn't want to have the same colours as the Bulldogs or Kangaroos either.

[Bowakawa]

I know, I know, I have a feeling it will be yellow and green stripes or something gross like that.

[Legsy]

GWS - Giants of Western Sydney. Like the mighty ducks of anaheim. Don't really care if it is, actually quite like giants as long as jumper and logo are good.

[didaka]

It's the sort of name that when you first hear you feel a little robbed and find it a little ordinary, but after a few years it starts to grow on you, and you couldn't imagine it any other way.

As with the Suns (I was actually always a fan of the name) it's starting to grow on people and even the uniform is starting to grow on me also.

Just as long as they get the uniform right with this side and a good looking logo. Very important to get that right especially the colors.

[catters05]

Wolves for me.

[Pessimistic]

read somewhere that not having sydney in the name is being seriously considered - to appeal to the whole state of NSW

[UrLordLeper]

read somewhere that not having sydney in the name is being seriously considered - to appeal to the whole state of NSW
.. And the ACT.

Which to me is a damn good idea!

[The Jaguar]

I've seen "New South Whalers" a couple of times and whilst its obviously not a traditional name it kinda sticks in your head! I can see the masoct in my head...it's a Japanese "research scientist" with a harpoon! ;)

[cos789]

I've seen "New South Whalers" a couple of times and whilst its obviously not a traditional name it kinda sticks in your head! I can see the masoct in my head...it's a Japanese "research scientist" with a harpoon! ;)


Actually somebody has it - maybe the state SFL side !

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[Pessimistic]

Im english born and no Idea bout NWS symbolism.

Started thinking about the Welshmen and Thought Celts, Druids and also Welsh Dragons

In fact dragons would e quite a muticutlural symbol - heres the welsh one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Wales_2.svg

There are dragons in almost every culture. Great for multicuttural west sydney -

Unfortunately NRL st george might not be too happy about it !!

Dragonslayers ?

Could go like the "suns" to raise mental pictures of the beach

NSW "Fire", "Flames" "Firebreathers", Fireaters, Firefighters, Fireballs, Fireys could evoke ideas of the CFA like the suns make you think about the lifeguards

Looking at olympic park suggests olympians There is Plato/Hades of the underworld, Hecules (strength) Titan Mercury Posidon/Neptune (of the sea)
Another one - a bit oblique is Nemesis - god of revenge

Sydney fairgrounds suggests carousels, rollercoasters (I like that one) Wipeout, waltzers Cakewalks !!!

From the 'showgrounds thers the Woodchoppers, Drovers, swagmen, bushies, showmen, showbags, Rams, steers, Angry angus

From Homebush former chemical works therse chemical burns, Agent Orange, isotopes

Sorry, just thinking out loud - Like Nemesis, Rollercoasters, Swagmen, Fireballs, Druids or Dragons {if it was possible}

Red Green and white as colours

[Kapital city TIGER]

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Sydney fairgrounds suggests carousels, rollercoasters (I like that one) Wipeout, waltzers Cakewalks !!!

From the 'showgrounds thers the Woodchoppers, Drovers, swagmen, bushies, showmen, showbags, Rams, steers, Angry angus

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the CARNIES!

they can have a harlequin guernsey always looks good

I still like HOODs
FUNNELWEBS
KOMMANDOS

and now CARNIES

and hows about BUNYIPS?
(bit unfair to the existing Bunyips in Gipslnd league, but, such is life, here, have a new jumper)

basically Im in love with all my own suggestions, I mean I like some of the others but... just see so much more in the above... (yes, Im aware I have...isues....)

dont hate Giants,
do hate Spratans, not actual spartans from sparta, (the remnants of this once great city-state now a village about the size of Bunyip, Vic...)

cant quite hate Wolves, because, you know, pretty cool, just not Aussie

Diamondbacks not bad either (can ALSO have a harlequin guernsey - will be classy in any setting!) ok i think its my preferred after mine own suggestions

(still think Hoods would RULE! but ok there is a bit too much naughty in it, cant see it getting up )

[cos789]

Im english born and no Idea bout NWS symbolism.

Started thinking about the Welshmen and Thought Celts, Druids and also Welsh Dragons



Chinese Dragons anybody ?

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[cos789]

Wallaroos - perfect - large kangaroos
i.e. we're bigger than the Kangaroos .

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[Pessimistic]

Chinese Dragons anybody ?

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Dragaons have appeal in quite a few cultures. Perfect fot multicultural western sydney.

Big problem that the NRL already have it.

Trid to thing of a name which resonates with dragons but "Soup" "Pete" "Puff" is all I could think of - not good

[Bowakawa]

If they were gonna go without Sydney in their name what would they be called?

[Pessimistic]

I cant think of anything, unless they keep the location as initials - give it less emphasis.

Up north GC Suns is what appears in the fixture list

GWS Giants or GW Giants or NSW Giants

A bit like calling the other team SFC Swans


GWS Nemesis ? sounds like a battleship

I also thought of Trojans not Spartans.

A small elite force smuggled into a powerful city who led to its downfall.

It als sits with sheedys idea of actively recruiting overseas talent

(should sheedys team be called the martians ?

Incidentally, would swans supporters naturally call the new team the "Westies" ?

Interesting thing I found in WIKI for swans

Swans feature strongly in mythology. In Greek mythology, the story of Leda and the Swan recounts that Helen of Troy was conceived in a union of Zeus disguised as a swan and Leda, Queen of Sparta. Other references in classical literature include the belief that upon death the otherwise silent Mute Swan would sing beautifully - hence the phrase swan song; as well as Juvenal's sarcastic reference to a good woman being a "rare bird, as rare on earth as a black swan", from which we get the Latin phrase rara avis, rare bird.

[The Jaguar]

I also thought of Trojans not Spartans.

A small elite force smuggled into a powerful city who led to its downfall.


I'm not trying to be an ancient history nazi or anything but it's actually the other way around. The Greeks smuggled themselves into the city of Troy (where the Trojans lived) via their famous wooden horse and then reeked havoc after dark.

So in your example Sydney is actually Troy, and GWS are the Greeks.

GWS Greeks then? Nah sounds shite.

Just stick with Wolves and be done with it! :thumbsu:

[Pessimistic]

I'm aware of the story but
Perception is greater than reality. trojans is now associated with the guys in the horse not the city of troy.
Trojans has a nice ring.

Most of the designs in here based on wolves are american inspired.
Even though wolves were found everywhere, the perception is american - the designs reinforce that

[The Jaguar]

I disagree.

When I think of Trojans I think of the guys who got screwed. The name also doesn't have anything to do with West Sydney, so if you object to Wolves being too "American" then you would discount Trojans along the same lines of non-relation. Not that I think the name has to relate to the region, because some of the best names in the league don't...such as Lions, Tigers and Eagles.

Wolves is good because West Sydney Wolves rolls off the tongue and the Wolf is one of the natural predators of the Swan.

Perfect! :thumbsu:

[Pessimistic]

It would be a predator if it wasnt near extinct - the swan is protected.

Anyway I dont really care, just thinking out loud.

Personally I hope they are western ...something rather than GW...something because that way Hawthorn wont be pushed further down the alphabetical ladder

[Fire]

I'm aware of the story but
Perception is greater than reality. trojans is now associated with the guys in the horse not the city of troy.


What?

Strongly disagree.

[crimson]

I've seen "New South Whalers" a couple of times and whilst its obviously not a traditional name it kinda sticks in your head! I can see the masoct in my head...it's a Japanese "research scientist" with a harpoon! ;)

actually it is spelt walers and is thought to relate to a horse that came from Western Sydney for WW1

http://www.lighthorse.org.au/resources/military-stories-misc/the-waler...-a-breed-of-horses-legend-or-fact

[UrLordLeper]

I'm aware of the story but
Perception is greater than reality. trojans is now associated with the guys in the horse not the city of troy.
Trojans has a nice ring.

Most of the designs in here based on wolves are american inspired.
Even though wolves were found everywhere, the perception is american - the designs reinforce that


Just because you didn't pay attention in history doesn't mean no-one else did.. That's like saying the Russian Tsars overthrew the incumbent Socialist government out of office when they stormed the winter palace..

And Trojans are probably more well known these days as a brand of condoms.. So probably not awesome for a team moniker..

[Pessimistic]

Jesus, what a reaction !!!

its a bloody legend anyway. Not fact.

I'd say the modern assosiation with trojans is the computer virus varity (looking forward to sone nerd pulling me up on THAT...its not technically a virus. etc)

As I said, like I give a rats what your club is called. "Westies" is your real nickname

[Jambo90]

people say domain names don't have anything to do with the actual name of the club? yeah a sydney based marketing company registered giants type domains and a few wolves ones.

What stands out is that

Domain Name: wswolves.com.au
Registrar ID: Melbourne IT
Registrar Name: Melbourne IT
Status: ok

Registrant: Australian Football League
Registrant ID: ACN 004155211
Eligibility Type: Company

Is registered by the AFL... so it must leave us some legitimacy to the fact that they may indeed be the wolves after all :P

[The Jaguar]

actually it is spelt walers and is thought to relate to a horse that came from Western Sydney for WW1

http://www.lighthorse.org.au/resources/military-stories-misc/the-waler...-a-breed-of-horses-legend-or-fact

Wow I totally missed that!

I thought they were going the Ishmael angle, but the lighthorsemen association is actually quite good. Obviously the term "Waler" as a horse breed isn't common knowledge but I suppose in time it would become better known, especially if tied to a decent horse mascot.

New South Walers Football Club? It's in the maybe box for me. Wolves is still numero uno though.

[Mowse]

Walers is the best suggestion ive heard by far.
even 'West Sydney Walers' would work nicely.
I quite like that its a bit obscure - creates a bit of story around the identity. But we all know they wont pick a name with strong local/historical reference, and will instead pick somthing meaningless like Giants :(

[The Jaguar]

Walers is the best suggestion ive heard by far.
even 'West Sydney Walers' would work nicely.
I quite like that its a bit obscure - creates a bit of story around the identity. But we all know they wont pick a name with strong local/historical reference, and will instead pick somthing meaningless like Giants :(

Yeah I'm definitely coming around to it. I think if they went in that direction though the "New South Walers" name would be too hard to resist, it's just absolutely begging to be done!!! It kinda works well with the Canberra association aswell that they are trying to build. I know that people from the ACT don't consider themselves apart of NSW, but it includes them more than a name like "West Sydney" will ever be able to do. I also like that (according to that link above) the Waler breed is almost a bit mythological in nature, which gives it a bit of an "aura" if you know what I mean. Especially when tied to the heroics of the ANZACS.

I wonder if its on the radar down there at GWS?

[cos789]

Very interesting suggestion .
has a lot going for it .

:thumbsu:

[Professor Knowall]

Jesus, what a reaction !!!

its a bloody legend anyway. Not fact.

I'd say the modern assosiation with trojans is the computer virus varity (looking forward to sone nerd pulling me up on THAT...its not technically a virus. etc)

As I said, like I give a rats what your club is called. "Westies" is your real nickname
:D
Actually, Troy is - or was- a real city, though the wooden horse bit fits more to legend than fact.

If you are right about "... the modern assosiation with trojans is the computer virus ...", then 'Trojans' is probably not such a good name anyway. Who wants a computer virus as a mascot?

Then again, the Romans did credit a Trojan refugee (Aenaus) as the ancestor of Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome, which grew to the mightiest of empires. hmmm.

BTW - The 'Titans' always amuse me as a name. They are the biggest losers in Greek mythology - smashed by the younger Olympian gods, chained and banished to the deepest darkest chasms beneath the earth. Good this be an omen for the GC Titans with the younger Suns starting up?

[Pessimistic]

I'm getting more inspiration.

Western sydney Pedants, Trollers or Nitpickers ?

"Keyboard Warriors"

[The Jaguar]

Yeah so am I.

How about the West Sydney Morons Who Think People That Are Fooled By Giant Wooden Animals Given To Them By Their Mortal Enemies Would Make Great Footy Mascots.

Nah doesn't really roll off the tongue.

[Wynyard]

Shouldn't the name have something to do with invading Rugby League heartland?

eg. Pioneers, Predators, Vultures, Barbarians

Giants, Wolves, Trojans are all a bit lame IMHO.

[cos789]

Shouldn't the name have something to do with invading Rugby League heartland?

eg. Pioneers, Predators, Vultures, Barbarians

Giants, Wolves, Trojans are all a bit lame IMHO.


Dominators !
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[4DiMeNSiONaL]

Drop the "Greater" gimmick i reckon. West Sydney Giants will do.

[Wynyard]

It's already decided anyway I suppose, I agree with West Sydney without the Greater.

I come from The Blue Mountains, and never really considered myself as beint from Western Sydney growing up, but I still like the idea of a team there.

For what it's worth some of my submissions to the name the team site were:

Inmates

Mullets

Chariots (AKA car on blocks in the front yard - commons site in WS) - Get on board!

Pioneers

Bunyips

Serpents

[UrLordLeper]

It's already decided anyway I suppose, I agree with West Sydney without the Greater.

I come from The Blue Mountains, and never really considered myself as beint from Western Sydney growing up, but I still like the idea of a team there.

For what it's worth some of my submissions to the name the team site were:

Inmates

Mullets

Chariots (AKA car on blocks in the front yard - commons site in WS) - Get on board!

Pioneers

Bunyips

Serpents

I think Chariots is fantastic! Western Sydney Chariots!

[swaneagle24]

Call them the GWS Capitals!

[white_noise]

I think WS fans will be pleasantly surprised next week:thumbsu:

[swaneagle24]

I think WS fans will be pleasantly surprised next week:thumbsu:
Cancelling the ACT deal already?

[Clay Davis]

Cancelling the ACT deal already?
Why are you moaning about it?

It isn't your club.

[swaneagle24]

Why are you moaning about it?

It isn't your club.
It would've been!

[M312]

Why are you moaning about it?

It isn't your club.

Is it your's if not his opinion is as valid as your's Anyway I get the feeling they may go with the rams now they have linked with the ACT

[Wynyard]

This is a bit funny,

http://www.cracked.com/article_15646_worlds-most-ridiculous-sports-team-names.html

There's a new soccer team called Melbourne Heart... they may as well have gone for "Melbourne Fluffy Pink Teddy Bears".

Hopefully the Westies have come up with something better... we've got stacks of deadly snakes, spiders, drink drivers, homicidal axe wielding maniacs etc. in OZ, many of them live in the west.... hopefully they use something deadly.

[swaneagle24]

This is a bit funny,

http://www.cracked.com/article_15646_worlds-most-ridiculous-sports-team-names.html

There's a new soccer team called Melbourne Heart... they may as well have gone for "Melbourne Fluffy Pink Teddy Bears".

Hopefully the Westies have come up with something better... we've got stacks of deadly snakes, spiders, drink drivers, homicidal axe wielding maniacs etc. in OZ, many of them live in the west....

DEATH ADDERS anyone.
GWS Milats? Play some games down in Belanglo on their way to Canberra?

[Wynyard]

West Sydney Deadly

[white_noise]

Cancelling the ACT deal already?

lol as nice as that seems I think this news is better if true.

The WS fans seem to have been given a name more favoured by the pack

[Sydneyfan]

A name I thought of a few years back when GWS was first mooted was West Sydney Wild, using the dingo as its mascot. A lot probably wouldn't like it because it sounds too American but with the dingo as its mascot, it would be a more indigenous mascot than the Wolves.

[swaneagle24]

lol as nice as that seems I think this news is better if true.

The WS fans seem to have been given a name more favoured by the pack
I will vomit in my mouth repeatedly if it's Wolves.

[dlanod]

I will vomit in my mouth repeatedly if it's Wolves.

You're already seemingly at the stage of wanting to burn down Blacktown over the ACT link, so what does it matter what name it is? :rolleyes:

[Mr Crow!]

I will vomit in my mouth repeatedly if it's Wolves.

Can you upload that onto youtube, for all to see and enjoy? :D

[swaneagle24]

Can you upload that onto youtube, for all to see and enjoy? :D
Gladly haha

[Wynyard]

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/giant-step-into-new-domain-for-gws-or-are-wolves-at-the-door-20101112-17rbn.html

Looks like it might be (Jolly Green) Giants

Oh well, no WS Deadly.

I guess it can be changed a few years down the track when everyone can be convinced Giants is shite. It took 30 years or so for the Mayblooms to see the light.

[The Jaguar]

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/giant-step-into-new-domain-for-gws-or-are-wolves-at-the-door-20101112-17rbn.html

Looks like it might be (Jolly Green) Giants

Oh well, no WS Deadly.

I guess it can be changed a few years down the track when everyone can be convinced Giants is shite. It took 30 years or so for the Mayblooms to see the light.

That article suggests that it could easily be Wolves aswell.

Well here's hoping anyway. Wolves is so much better than Giants it ain't funny. :thumbsu:

[M312]

That article suggests that it could easily be Wolves aswell.

Well here's hoping anyway. Wolves is so much better than Giants it ain't funny. :thumbsu:

Yeah it should not be the Giants that represents a Failed League team up here, they should steer clear of that

[Cyril_Grip]

has anyone thought of the Bankstown Fuglies? They were the footy team from The Final Dig (the 12th Man). Got acertain ring to it...

[mollyfud]

That article suggests that it could easily be Wolves aswell.

Well here's hoping anyway. Wolves is so much better than Giants it ain't funny. :thumbsu:

I like the Wolves better myself (if my suggestion of the Great White Sharks doesn't get up) but the article missed on important domain that was registered that points more towards the Giants: http://www.aflspace.com/2010/11/12/exclusive-a-new-giant-in-the-afl-western-sydney-name/

[swaneagle24]

I like the Wolves better myself (if my suggestion of the Great White Sharks doesn't get up) but the article missed on important domain that was registered that points more towards the Giants: http://www.aflspace.com/2010/11/12/exclusive-a-new-giant-in-the-afl-western-sydney-name/
Sharks won't get up because Western Sydney is inland...

[cos789]

Sharks won't get up because Western Sydney is inland...

Yeah right , I've seen plenty of tigers in Richmond , Lions in Brisbane etc

[swaneagle24]

Yeah right , I've seen plenty of tigers in Richmond , Lions in Brisbane etc
But Sharks for a team not on the coast?

[M312]

Yeah right , I've seen plenty of tigers in Richmond , Lions in Brisbane etc

Sharks may or not be a good name that's up to you, but they won't use a name already in use by teams in a major comp. For 2 reasons 1 The confusion and 2 they would likely be sued. That's why I don't think they will use wolves, not because of the soccer team in England, but the team in Wollongong and the old nsl are still knowns as the wolves.

[cos789]

Sharks may or not be a good name that's up to you, but they won't use a name already in use by teams in a major comp. For 2 reasons 1 The confusion and 2 they would likely be sued. That's why I don't think they will use wolves, not because of the soccer team in England, but the team in Wollongong and the old nsl are still knowns as the wolves.

Cronulla Sharks are merging .
You're not serious about the .......NSL ?
East Fremantle Sharks are not on the coast .
Just about every moniker/mascot is imported .
Sharks are very much closer than most of the other animal suggestions .
In fact sharks can be found in the harbour ,close to WS .
The Walers are pretty much spot on .
European icons have absolutely nothing to do with Australia let alone WS .
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[M312]

Cronulla Sharks are merging .
You're not serious about the .......NSL ?
East Fremantle Sharks are not on the coast .
Just about every moniker/mascot is imported .
Sharks are very much closer than most of the other animal suggestions .
In fact sharks can be found in the harbour ,close to WS .
The Walers are pretty much spot on .
European icons have absolutely nothing to do with Australia let alone WS .
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Cronulla Sharks are not merging ( not that I care) if you can prove me wrong link me to an article and I will apologise, but I know you won't find one. No I'm not serious about the NSL, I'm just telling you that if they choose the name the sharks ( which we know they won't) they leave themselves open to pontential legal action. I look forward to the article regarding the Cronulla Sharks

[cos789]

I know you won't find one.

google Cronulla merge - take your pick.

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[Supermercado]

google Cronulla merge - take your pick.

.

Aren't all those articles about merging their Leagues Club?

[Fire]

Aren't all those articles about merging their Leagues Club?

Yes.

shhh.

[BarneyBent]

Sharks isn't just a bad name because GWS aren't on the coast. That's not a prerequisiste. However, GWS aren't just non-coastal, they will be setting themselves up to be anti-coastal. The Swans will be seen as the club with the beach dudes and eastern suburbs types, whereas GWS will want to identify as specifically the opposite of that. Choosing a moniker like Sharks would undermine that.

[Wynyard]

WS Loan Sharks might work...

How about WS Giant Trojan Sharks?

[UrLordLeper]

I can't see it being 'Sharks' either because of the Southport Sharks, who will be a big player in the NEAFL comp, and will be commpeting against GWS in 2011 and the GWS reserves from 2012.

[swaneagle24]

In fact sharks can be found in the harbour ,close to WS .

The whole point of GWS is that it isn't related to the harbour/Sydney CBD.

[cos789]

Sharks isn't just a bad name because GWS aren't on the coast. That's not a prerequisiste. However, GWS aren't just non-coastal, they will be setting themselves up to be anti-coastal. The Swans will be seen as the club with the beach dudes and eastern suburbs types, whereas GWS will want to identify as specifically the opposite of that. Choosing a moniker like Sharks would undermine that.

It's fair to criticise "Sharks" but a bit realitivity please !!
So what has WS got to do with any of the other proposals ?
People are proposing North hemisphere animals which we don't see outside of a zoo or European mythical creatures of a narrow ethnic nature .
So far you have only Rams, Walers or Wallaroos with any connection .

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[cos789]

I can't see it being 'Sharks' either because of the Southport Sharks, who will be a big player in the NEAFL comp, and will be commpeting against GWS in 2011 and the GWS reserves from 2012.

That's really not a problem if they GWS want "sharks".
GWS= Great White Shark .

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[M312]

It's fair to criticise "Sharks" but a bit realitivity please !!
So what has WS got to do with any of the other proposals ?
People are proposing North hemisphere animals which we don't see outside of a zoo or European mythical creatures of a narrow ethnic nature .
So far you have only Rams, Walers or Wallaroos with any connection .

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I'm not criticising your pick, just letting you now how these things work if you think the sharks in sydney would sit by and let the afl or gws use the name you no very little about how these things work. I cannot set up a pizza shop next to eagle boy's and call it eagle boy's, so gws can not start up in this city and use that name.Not only that reason but the fact no one from Western sydney would except the sharks they would be rolling on the ground laughing. No reason why you can't like it though

[M312]

Seems like a lot of speculation regarding green jumper if that is the case it is a concern to me, as green represents Canberra. Does this just confirm the speculation and Rumours in sydney that this team will be going to canberra full time? I think it's funny how they hook up with the ACT now the jumper may be green .

[KissStephanie]

East Fremantle Sharks are not on the coast .Yes they are. :confused: I'm pretty sure that East Fremantle Oval is only be about 3 km's from the Indian Ocean.

I still think that GWS should be something that is prominent in the area, so Western Sydney Flannelettes. Kevin Sheedy should turn up to the launch in a Holden Monaro (HQ?) wearing a flannelette shirt and moccasins with a pie and tinny! He's a 'Westie' now, and he should be proud of it (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/im-a-westie-and-proud-of-it/story-e6frewt0-1225741662888)! ;)

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[cos789]

you no very little about how these things work.

I do know how these things work and how to spell as well .
This is very old ground.
If the GWS wanted to use the name "Sharks" they probably could .
As long as there is no confusion in the eyes of consumers it's OK .
There are no other GWS, WS or even Sydney Sharks and you can add AFC as well .

In Brisbane there exists the Brisbane Lions and Roar.
In Sydney there's Sydney and Sydney fc .
Then there's soccer calling itself "football" when the "f" in AFL and every state league since the dawn of Australia stands for "football".

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[M312]

I do know how these things work and how to spell as well .
This is very old ground.
If the GWS wanted to use the name "Sharks" they probably could .
As long as there is no confusion in the eyes of consumers it's OK .
There are no other GWS, WS or even Sydney Sharks and you can add AFC as well .

In Brisbane there exists the Brisbane Lions and Roar.
In Sydney there's Sydney and Sydney fc .
Then there's soccer calling itself "football" when the "f" in AFL and every state league since the dawn of Australia stands for "football".

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Oh so the old I know how to spell line good on you I'm sure your mum's real proud. You come across as a fool Sharks in West Sydney yeah good on you, Brisbane Lions and Roar yeah that's a real comparison lol. I'm still waiting for the Sharks merging reports, oh that's right you couldn't find anything. As a Swans fan WHO cares what you want as a name how about you leave it to the people in the West of Sydney. Soccer calling itself football lmfao

[cos789]

I'm pretty sure that East Fremantle Oval is only be about 3 km's from the Indian Ocean.

So even by your logic - it's NOT on the coast .
It's one suburb removed from the coast being East of the City of Fremantle .
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[cos789]

Brisbane Lions and Roar yeah that's a real comparison

They both have the Lion as their moniker .

Sharks in West Sydney yeah good on you,

And how many of the other suggestions are unique to WS ?

how about you leave it to the people in the West of Sydney.

It's discussion about a decission made by the GWS .

Soccer calling itself football

So you don't see any confusion in Sydney Swans fc and Sydney fc ?

If not then you cannot argue that GWS Sharks AFC is completely different from Cronulla Sharks rlfc .

And chillout dude , I'm just saying there's no problem with the Shark's naming
- it's not my first choice . And it's irrelevant now as the name seems set .

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[M312]

They both have the Lion as their moniker .



And how many of the other suggestions are unique to WS ?



It's discussion about a decission made by the GWS .



So you don't see any confusion in Sydney Swans fc and Sydney fc ?

If not then you cannot argue that GWS Sharks AFC is completely different from Cronulla Sharks rlfc .

And chillout dude , I'm just saying there's no problem with the Shark's naming
- it's not my first choice . And it's irrelevant now as the name seems set .

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I am chilled to be honest I couldn't care less whether they call themselves the Sharks or the goanna's, as for confusion in Sydney Swans fc and Sydney fc no I don't see any confusion. Sydney swans are alway's called the swans in Sydney never Sydney Swans fc. As you said it's not important as they won't be listning to you or ME. No problem man didn't mean to come off rude.

[Mr Eagle]

Seems like a lot of speculation regarding green jumper if that is the case it is a concern to me, as green represents Canberra. Does this just confirm the speculation and Rumours in sydney that this team will be going to canberra full time? I think it's funny how they hook up with the ACT now the jumper may be green .

Green is the Raiders (and to a far lesser extent, Canberra United in the W-League), not the ACT. If they do go with green as part of the colour scheme, it will be unrelated to Canberra.

[cos789]

Sydney swans are alway's called the swans in Sydney never Sydney Swans fc.

It's the official name that matters .
Fremantle had to be officially called the "Fremantle Dockers" until they recently resolved their differences with the Dockers Co.
The Swans are officially known as the Sydney Swans AFC which is a bit unusual .If they were officially known as the Sydney AFC then it would have been impossible for the the Sydney fc to be known officially as such .
There was a lot of controversity over the Brisbane Lions /Brisbane Roar clash as both had Brisbane in their title as well as having a lion for their moniker .

The fact is - it's the points of difference in the official title - the place name/the mascot /the product that determine the legality .

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[The Jaguar]

There are issues with using the Shark name because Greg Norman owns it in Australia, which means that you cant put it on any club merch. This is why GC didn't use it. The only exception to this rule are teams like Cronulla who were using the Shark name before Norman trademarked it. Essentially they can continue to use it because they were already using it, but new teams are obviously not in this position.

It doesn't matter anyway because Giants seems to be the go. It's not really that inspiring and it does nothing to reduce the image of GWS as a plastic expansion franchise, but its not hateful I guess. Could've been worse e.g. Pride.

[cos789]

There are issues with using the Shark name because Greg Norman owns it in Australia.

You cannot own any word , just trading under that name and associated merchandising .

This is why GC didn't use it.

No , the prevailing view is that GCFC didn't want to be seen as an extension of the Southport Sharks .

The only exception to this rule ....

Is where there in NO confusion in the consumer's eyes to the respective company's identity and previous use has absolutely no bearing if a company has not registered it's trade mark .

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