Saw VII (aka Saw 3D: The Final Chapter)

[strauchy]

SAW 7! they say its the final one!
hahah. i personally love the saw series altogether because they are really clever however after the first couple..maybe include the third, the rest arnt really great and it just gets confusing but thats my opinion.

at the end of the day its another saw:) and the last so hopefully things will come together?
does anyone know what to look out for, obviously no spoilers here. after watching the trailer it displayed it in a way where it involves the audience. i dont think it will fully but could there perhaps be something for us? it IS in 3D

[flight23]

that looked good, then hilarious, then weird

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[HBK619]

Can't wait for it to start. Will go day one.

Love the Saw series, absolutely love them.

Am hoping this is the last though as it's dragging a bit and if they're to really stretch it out any more it will result in just stupid questions being put up for the sake of it rather than genuine things we all want to know and find out being resolved.

The good thing about this one is that we're going to get some really big resolutions to stuff we're dying to find out.

Gonna be epic!

[Kong]

If it turns out:

- Dr Gordon 'saw the light' and started putting people in tests
- There's another co-conspirator, or even somebody above Jigsaw

I will spit chips.

Actually I'll probably still love it, but they've already introduced three co-conspirators on top of the original Jigsaw killer, which I find a bit unbelievable.

[acooldude_au]

Saw in 3D will be hilarious but enjoyable imo... will have stuff flying at you non stop :thumbsu: :D

[Football God]

Only seen no.1 and didnt watch it properly cos it was on late and i was tired. should i watch them all or are they just shit?

[quin_stick]

Is that the guy from Linkin Park?

[WaLkEr_ThE_StAr]

Have been looking forward to each new installment in the the Saw series since I become hooked with the original when it came out many moons ago. Can you believe it's been 6 years since the first movie was released by Aussie unknowns Leigh Whannell and James Wan? Crazy!

Good to hear that this will most likely be the final chapter in what has been one of my favourite horror franchises. Props to the production team for having kept the story alive thus far, despite Jigsaw having carked it in Saw III, but it appears as though they are running out of creative ideas to work with so i'm happy it's going to wrap up.

Lets just hope they put the story to bed nicely, without purposely leaving any open ended plotlines so as to prompt any money-hungry production companies and distributors to make further sequels down the track. But being Hollywood, I highly doubt they'll be taking any route other than this.

One thing that excites me is the return of Dr. Gordon. Finally we will find out what happened to him after he crawled out of the bathroom 6 films ago!

Can't wait! :D

Is that the guy from Linkin Park?

Yeah, that's the lead singer; Chester Bennington.

[lyall]

Definitely looks like something worth seeing in 3d, especially with it being the last Saw movie as well*

Only seen no.1 and didnt watch it properly cos it was on late and i was tired. should i watch them all or are they just shit?

Probably worth seeing them all to truly understand what is going on, a lot more to these movies than just a bunch of traps in a house. I watched number 5 before I watched 3 and 4 and I was pretty confused by some of the new characters. Having said that if you watch number 1 again and don't like it I wouldnt bother with the rest


*Likely to not be last Saw movie

[HBK619]

Only seen no.1 and didnt watch it properly cos it was on late and i was tired. should i watch them all or are they just shit?The first is a VERY good flick. If you enjoy the first then it'd be worth watching through the others, they have a continual storyline throughout.

In terms of which Saw movies are better, I'd rate them as such: 1>6>3>2>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>5.Is that the guy from Linkin Park?Yep...he is in it...

[L_W_P]

I'll be waiting for the twist where we find out that Dr. Gordon has been the real Jigsaw from the start and that he actually had a cure for cancer that he would only give to John if he 'played the game'

John then died but he made sure that someone else was able to carry on the game so that Gordon would still do the right thing and give out the cure for cancer.

A bunch of people will be forced to kill each other, despite the fact that these 'games' are supposed to be about redemption at a cost rather than straight up death.

The cop (Whose name I forget) will be killed in the opening scene after we find out that he was actually the father of the baby John's wife lost. This is despite the fact they had only met once, she was drunk and fell down and it's not like he was any good anyway. Amanda will be revealed as the egg donor when we find out John's wife is infertile. This movie isn't just blood and guts. It has a message about IVF and abortion dammit!!!

We'll then find out that John's wife was having an affair with Dr. Gordon and that she was the real mastermind pulling the strings behind the scenes. Dr. Gordon will be killed in a game he had set up to kill John's wife (because leaving her would be just too boring) however she knew this was coming and turned it around to take him out.

Que the awesome twist music.

Reveal Danny Glover as the new boyfriend of John's wife (pregnant once again).

Hit a tag line about playing the most dangerous game of all: LIFE.

Roll credits.

Hint at possible spin off/follow up starring Danny Glover and Samuel L Jackson as brothers.

Bank $$$

Too easy :cool:

[Stokes-Selwood-Prismall]

I'll be waiting for the twist where we find out that Dr. Gordon has been the real Jigsaw from the start and that he actually had a cure for cancer that he would only give to John if he 'played the game'

John then died but he made sure that someone else was able to carry on the game so that Gordon would still do the right thing and give out the cure for cancer.

A bunch of people will be forced to kill each other, despite the fact that these 'games' are supposed to be about redemption at a cost rather than straight up death.

The cop (Whose name I forget) will be killed in the opening scene after we find out that he was actually the father of the baby John's wife lost. This is despite the fact they had only met once, she was drunk and fell down and it's not like he was any good anyway. Amanda will be revealed as the egg donor when we find out John's wife is infertile. This movie isn't just blood and guts. It has a message about IVF and abortion dammit!!!

We'll then find out that John's wife was having an affair with Dr. Gordon and that she was the real mastermind pulling the strings behind the scenes. Dr. Gordon will be killed in a game he had set up to kill John's wife (because leaving her would be just too boring) however she knew this was coming and turned it around to take him out.

Que the awesome twist music.

Reveal Danny Glover as the new boyfriend of John's wife (pregnant once again).

Hit a tag line about playing the most dangerous game of all: LIFE.

Roll credits.

Hint at possible spin off/follow up starring Danny Glover and Samuel L Jackson as brothers.

Bank $$$

Too easy :cool:
stay classy

[Hawks1523]

If it turns out:

- Dr Gordon 'saw the light' and started putting people in tests
- There's another co-conspirator, or even somebody above Jigsaw

I will spit chips.

Actually I'll probably still love it, but they've already introduced three co-conspirators on top of the original Jigsaw killer, which I find a bit unbelievable.

No doubt we will get one of these two scenarios. Must watch Saw 6 before I see this. Have seen the first 5, and 5 was horrid! :eek:

[X_box_X]

Undoubtedly I am Australia's biggest Saw fan. I'm not ashamed to admit that.

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The above is footage from self-help guru and fellow survivor Bobby Dagen.

Chester from Linkin Park is in the "most brutal, most disturbing and most horrible trap" in the entire franchise. It appears as though he is glued to the seat. There also appears to be a man behind the car if you look closely in the trailer.

There is also a "Follow Bobby" trap. My guess is that the person is blind and has to "follow the voice" of Bobby to survive.

Who is Bobby? Well from what I can gather (from research), he created a book (we see it in one of the previous films) to make money out of... purely to undermine Jigsaw's work. I think he may pretend he was a victim in a trap... but he probably set the whole thing up. Also interesting to note that the lady you see in the one minute of footage next to Bobby is his wife, who was in a trap of her own.

Jill also ends up in jail, some how. And ends up missing a tooth.

The opening scene shows Doc. Lawrence Gordon crawling out of the bathroom from Saw, and cortorising his leg with a hot pipe so he doesn't die from loss of blood.

They then cut to the Public Scene, involving a lady suspended above her two boyfriends who have to kill the other in order for their girlfriend to survive. They work out she is playing them both and decide to do nothing, except watch her die.


If you would like to see four fairly new images, click the link below.
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I'm interested in finding out what happened to Jeff from Saw (the guy who was in the drill chair).

I hope they also show flashbacks to how Obi from the Nerve Gas House from Saw II captured the other victims to put in the house. I think this will play an important part.

Also how they got all of the victims in the traps from Saw V and VI will be interesting to see through flashbacks.

[jenniferhomes]

What final one!!!!! i think it sounds like a joke..

[Drummond]

Have become a huge fan of this franchise over the past year or so but...

Am I game enough to see it in 3D at the pictures? :o :D

PS. Loved Saw 6, hopefully 7 is the fitting conclusion.

[acooldude_au]

Ill be there on the day it comes out to watch it in 3D. Cant wait :thumbsu: :D

[darrenholmes26]

I really hope they do what they did with Scream. Leave it for a few years then come back and make another one.

[Mr_Smooth]

have just finished watching the first 6 literally in the past week, am stoked theres one more.

hopefully it's as good as the first 3

[Kong]

For mine:

1 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 4

Unlike most, I actually enjoyed the game of cat and mouse that made up most of #5. Hated #4, even though I found RIG to be perhaps the most likable protagonist in all of the films.

[Drummond]

My order:

1 > 2 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 3

[X_box_X]

6>1>3>5>2>4.

[darrenholmes26]

I was just showing this on another forum. Something they did at Hoyts on the weekend. Check out the dude at the end of the video, full loses it haha http://ow.ly/2WRaW :D
(http://ow.ly/2WRaW)

[bobbylukas]

that is so funny - the guy at the end crapped himself. cant wait to see this movie only a week away!!

[X_box_X]

Haha...

[SolidTiger]

I'll be waiting for the twist where we find out that Dr. Gordon has been the real Jigsaw from the start and that he actually had a cure for cancer that he would only give to John if he 'played the game'

John then died but he made sure that someone else was able to carry on the game so that Gordon would still do the right thing and give out the cure for cancer.

A bunch of people will be forced to kill each other, despite the fact that these 'games' are supposed to be about redemption at a cost rather than straight up death.

The cop (Whose name I forget) will be killed in the opening scene after we find out that he was actually the father of the baby John's wife lost. This is despite the fact they had only met once, she was drunk and fell down and it's not like he was any good anyway. Amanda will be revealed as the egg donor when we find out John's wife is infertile. This movie isn't just blood and guts. It has a message about IVF and abortion dammit!!!

We'll then find out that John's wife was having an affair with Dr. Gordon and that she was the real mastermind pulling the strings behind the scenes. Dr. Gordon will be killed in a game he had set up to kill John's wife (because leaving her would be just too boring) however she knew this was coming and turned it around to take him out.

Que the awesome twist music.

Reveal Danny Glover as the new boyfriend of John's wife (pregnant once again).

Hit a tag line about playing the most dangerous game of all: LIFE.

Roll credits.

Hint at possible spin off/follow up starring Danny Glover and Samuel L Jackson as brothers.

Bank $$$

Too easy :cool:

Lol. Day time soap meets horror. Sounds like an amusing combination. At least the horror won't just be the cheesy acting of a day time soap.

[Noddy Holder]

The first three were good. After that it was how gory and far-fetched can we make them. Having said that I'll still go and see it.

[rocker_oz33]

Watched sawV a while back on DVD watched the extras they have made a saw horror house.it looks quiet good check it out and l'll be watching this new saw 3D whoop.

[darrenholmes26]

that is so funny - the guy at the end crapped himself. cant wait to see this movie only a week away!!

I know. Hilarious. Would love to have been there.

[OzBomber]

I haven't watched a Saw movie since the 4th one which I only watched to find out Detective Matthew's fate, but I've always wondered whether Dr Gordon would survive or not. I'm tempted to go see it to find out what happens to him.

[WaLkEr_ThE_StAr]

I was just showing this on another forum. Something they did at Hoyts on the weekend. Check out the dude at the end of the video, full loses it haha http://ow.ly/2WRaW :D
(http://ow.ly/2WRaW)

http://l.yimg.com/ao/i/sp/afl/players/2009/90/250388.jpg

BWAHAHAH! I lost my shit! Didn't know Wonaeamirri was such a panzy. :D

Cue opposition teams pulling on the Saw 'Pig Mask' when they take the field against the Dees in 2011. :p

[HBK619]

Been given an R18+ rating, either the OFLC has had enough with the violence in Saw so they finally slapped the R rating on, or this is super dooper gory this year.

Either way I'm heading there tomorrow/today (Thursday) and will be giving my thoughts afterwards.

IT"S GONNA BE MENTAL!

[darrenholmes26]

Woo! Saw day so psyched

[WaLkEr_ThE_StAr]

Been given an R18+ rating, either the OFLC has had enough with the violence in Saw so they finally slapped the R rating on, or this is super dooper gory this year.

Either way I'm heading there tomorrow/today (Thursday) and will be giving my thoughts afterwards.

IT"S GONNA BE MENTAL!

I'm heading there to go and see it now, it's going to be so awesome in 3D! :D

I'll also let you know my thoughts afterwards, but with it being the final film I have a feeling the ending will only be a let down. Guess we'll wait and see! :thumbsu:

[acooldude_au]

OMG the day has finally arrived :thumbsu: :D

Its good that its now an R rated movie. No annoying squealing kids in the cinemas :D

[OzBomber]

R18+ you gotta be kidding me. :thumbsd:

[acooldude_au]

R18+ you gotta be kidding me. :thumbsd:

hehehe im assuming you are potentially one of the kiddies that will no longer be seeing this movie :D (unless you have a fake ID lol)

[OzBomber]

hehehe im assuming you are potentially one of the kiddies that will no longer be seeing this movie :D (unless you have a fake ID lol)

I've never watched them in the cinemas but I was thinking of seeing this one.

[WaLkEr_ThE_StAr]

Wow... OK my mind is all over the place at the moment having just watched it, and am still unsure about what to think of it. But i'll try my very best to give a review. Hmmm where do I begin?

Having been such a massive Saw fan since the first film, upon having seen this latest film it reaffirms to me why the series needed to end. It was a valiant effort by the writers, but all this film did for me was tie up a few loose ends and throw in a few traps along the way. It was simply the entry that was needed in order to end the series on good note. By no means was it the worst of the series, nor was it the best. I'd say it rates about 3rd or 4th in line in terms of which film ranks the best of the series. My rating my change over time, but having just seen it these are my immediate thoughts.

Without saying too much about the 'twist', let's just say I picked it as soon as it was announced that this film was given the green light, and was intended to be the last installment in the series. But with the other 'small' twist I didn't it see coming. Although it must be said, aside from all of that though, I thought it was a very fitting way to end the series. :thumbsu:

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SPOILERS BELOW!!!

First things first, is there anyone else out there that picked the ending? Dr. G!! Any massive Saw fan such as myself would've seen this ending coming from a mile away. Not only did I think Dr. G would be the one to extract vengeance on Hoffman, but I also predicted the very last scene would take place in the bathroom. When a previous major character appears only briefly at the start of the film only to disappear it's not hard to see that they will come back and play a major role in the overall story at the very end.

To end the film in the bathroom drew a smile from me, as it was actually a nice little throwback to Saw 1 and is a tip of the cap to us hardcore fans. I for one am glad they took this route as it also means that Jigsaw's game came full circle, and in turn gives greater significance to the bathroom trap that Jigsaw set up in Saw 1. To end the series where it began is very poetic, and is what pleases me most about the conclusion. :thumbsu:

Realisitically there was little other avenue the writers could've taken in regards to how it'd end, so they kind of painted themselves into a corner as Dr. Gordon was the only central character left who could put an 'end to it all'.

Fans have been calling for years that Dr. Gordon was the man secretly helping Jigsaw on the side. There were small signs in the previous films where surgical proceedures were carried out, and it was obvious Jigsaw wouldn't have been able to do these by himself given he was simply an 'engineer', not a 'doctor'.

One massive clue is in Saw 2 when the opening victim Michael watches his 'play me' tape and sees a cloaked figure with a limp surgically inserting a key behind his eye. I remember watching the commentary on Saw 2, and the director jokingly states that it COULD be Dr. Gordon, but the role of this cloaked figure was actually a guy working on the production team and he simply threw the limp in there 'ad lib' to help drum up theories that it was the Doctor. Turns out they listened to calls by the fans and made it a reality.

Oh, and whilst they tied up all loose ends they also created a new one. WHO were the two accomplices wearing the pig masks that were assisting Dr. Gordon when they set upon Hoffman at the end? The only idea I have as to who it could've been is Simone (the one armed black woman who was at the self help group, and survived her trap by chopping off her arm in Saw 6). Just hope this doesn't prompt another onslaught of sequels and they leave this alone. Hmmm...

All in all 3.5 out of 5. :thumbsu:

[X_box_X]

I am actually disappointed. Clearly didn't live up to expectations. I'd rate it on par with Saw 4 as perhaps the worst in the franchise.

There was absolutely no need to have the public scene. What does that have to do with anything? Maybe they could have utilised some sort of connection, but the writers chose not to. Silly.

What else is silly is the amount of people who died. Everyone in Dagen's traps failed to live. The police officers killed by Hoffman when he was trying to capture Jill (I must admit I thought the tactic he used to hide in the black bag was clever)... Too many unimportant people died. Not to mention all of the people in Evan's trap. Again, what did this trap have to do with anything? It leaves too many questions unanswered, like previous victims of other traps in the other Saw movies.

They needed to spend more time concentrating on previous victims. Brit and Mallick from the 5-1 trap who survived from Saw 5. What the **** happened to them? What about Doctor Gordon's wife and daughter? How did all the characters get into their traps? I'm talking about all the characters in the NGH in Saw 2. What about the characters in Saw 5? Whose work was that? What about all the characters in the traps in Saw VI and Saw 3D?

The best quotes from the film I thought were from Hoffman and Dagen. Hoffman telling Jill, "You know the only thing wrong with killing you, Jill? I can only kill you once.

And the one from Dagen, directed at his dead publicist asking, "What couldn't you have just shut the **** up?

5/10.

[HBK619]

Definitely enjoyed it, wasn't as good as 6 but I considering this was to finish everything up it was always going to be hard to come out with an absolute cracker.

At the end of the day this would be my re-configured ratings.
1>6>3>2>7>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>5

Much the same as Walker said, EVERYONE knew that once Elwes came back he would be coming back in some way to pwn Hoffman over (and be revealed as a disciple of Jigsaw). We all knew it and I for one was glad it happened as it does give the overall closure and not only that it (as Walker said) brings the series full circle.

The traps...well they were a fair bit of a let down. The Linkin Park guy's trap was probably the best of the lot, but was over way too quick.

I didn't like the rushing of everything this time around, I can't remember the time limit in every single trap but was it always so quick with it being 30 or 60 seconds. Seems ridiculous.

The public trap made no sense and the strangest part was the lack of anything about it post-finish. Why was there a news piece on every single other trap bar the public one? For mine a trap that is witnessed by hundreds of people is far more newsworthy than one not. It made for a good trailer trap, but ended up being a bit pathetic for the actual movie.

Was disappointed with the performance of Sean Patrick Flanery as Bobby Dagen. I just couldn't really get into his performance at all, the guy was stabbed multiple times with a metal pole, had 2 of his back teeth removed by himself and then ripped his pecs off and there was barely a scream throughout them all. Not to mention, no limping, no grabbing at the wounds, no real showing that he had been injured prior to entering the last room. Strange and disappointing for sure.

Another and final disappointment was the killing off of every trap victim. Really the writers wrote themselves into it, much like Saw 3, you can't save victims and have them come along with the main protaganist because it throws everything off so therefore they have to die or be in a separate area for them to stay behind and find their own way out (like we saw in Saw 6).

I really enjoyed the story outside of the traps this time around though. It really lifted the movie up from being another Saw 5 (despite that movie being more story over traps, the story didn't interest me as much in 5).

I loved seeing some of the survivors from last years (and I don't think much beyond?) Saw, was a nice 'nostalgic' trip.

[giantroo]

Oh god, the black fella lost his shit


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[Hawks1523]

Hadn't seen 6. So I went and bought it today. So will have to put off seeing Saw 7 off until tomorrow. :(

So hard not to read the spoilers posted in here already. Dying to know. From the people saying it's predictable, it sounds like Dr. Gordon plays a role in the end of this, which will piss me off to no end.

Will watch 6 on dvd tonight before going at some stage tomorrow.

Lol at not being able to find 4 and 5 on dvd. I have 1,2,3,6 >.<

[acooldude_au]

I'm not a hardcore fan like everyone else that has posted, but have seen all the other movies and I enjoyed the 7th Saw very much. Was even more fun in 3D :thumbsu: :D

[X_box_X]

A lot of banter around the saw forum that there will be another installment in a few years time. It may be next year, it may be in three years time, it may not be for another ten years. But the ending has allowed for the possibility to continue on with the franchise through some sort of epic twist.

Hopefully they wait at least four years to bring another one out, and recruit a better script writer. We need to know more about the characters of previous films. More flashbacks needed.

[HBK619]

A lot of banter around the saw forum that there will be another installment in a few years time. It may be next year, it may be in three years time, it may not be for another ten years. But the ending has allowed for the possibility to continue on with the franchise through some sort of epic twist.

Hopefully they wait at least four years to bring another one out, and recruit a better script writer. We need to know more about the characters of previous films. More flashbacks needed.You're putting too much into the survivors of previous traps.

What exactly do you want to see? The series isn't about focussing on dealing with the trauma of being in such a trap. The reason they aren't showing anyone else is because they're most likely back to mundane lives.

Really what you want to see would make for an incredibly shit Saw movie. They can't all be doing something interesting that would relate to a Saw storyline, they just can't.

What they did with Saw 7 was just about perfect IMO. I guess they could've sprung for more than a few 'extras' from Saw 6, but just take those templates as much of what the previous survivors will be doing or like.

Also in regards to your previous quote, wasn't much of it already explained?(forgive me if I forget parts of 5 as I really didn't like it).They needed to spend more time concentrating on previous victims. Brit and Mallick from the 5-1 trap who survived from Saw 5. What the **** happened to them?Who cares? They most likely just went to the hospital, got repaired up and went back to living.What about Doctor Gordon's wife and daughter?That's probably the only genuine one that would need to be answered NOW that Dr.Gordon has been found to be living since Saw 1, to be fair it would've been terrible to reveal any sort of fate of them without truly ever revealing what happened to Dr.Gordon.

My thoughts would be that Gordon just lives his live as regular as can be, we saw him in his office, so obviously he is back working as a Doctor. Most likely he just went back to living his life with his wife and has done some pitching in work for Jigsaw on the side.How did all the characters get into their traps? I'm talking about all the characters in the NGH in Saw 2.Amanda? Did Hoffman go back that far (I can't remember if it was referenced in Saw 5).What about the characters in Saw 5? Whose work was that? What about all the characters in the traps in Saw VI and Saw 3D?Wasn't this all established as being Hoffman's work? If not, much of it was all intimated for sure.
So much white...watch out when replying too btw.

[X_box_X]

You're putting too much into the survivors of previous traps.

What exactly do you want to see? The series isn't about focussing on dealing with the trauma of being in such a trap. The reason they aren't showing anyone else is because they're most likely back to mundane lives.
I love twists. Do you remember the bloke who killed Jeff's son (Dylan), who is used in The Rack in Saw III (Timothy Young)? They could have explained more about how he killed his son, using some sort of twist. For example, Evan's trap from Saw 3D was because he was a racist. What if he and his friends were giving Timothy a hard time about his skin colour and were abusing him? So Timothy panicked, got in his car, and wasn't concentrating properly and, therefore, hit Dylan with his car. So the twist is that not only is Timothy to blame for the death of Jeff's son, but Evan and his friends also had a huge role to play in that.

Really what you want to see would make for an incredibly shit Saw movie. They can't all be doing something interesting that would relate to a Saw storyline, they just can't.
Again, they could create for an interesting story if they use twists. Adopt a second reasoning as to why certain characters were in traps. We could have learned more about the junkie Troy... a twist possibly explaining that he was in jail with Amanda and her "dead cell mate" from Saw. Just an idea.



Also in regards to your previous quote, wasn't much of it already explained?(forgive me if I forget parts of 5 as I really didn't like it).Who cares? They most likely just went to the hospital, got repaired up and went back to living.
Considering Brit and Mallick, the sole survivors from Saw V, were the two people ultimately responsible for the fire, that's pretty big. Again, there could have been a twist that someone's family died in that fire.

My thoughts would be that Gordon just lives his live as regular as can be, we saw him in his office, so obviously he is back working as a Doctor. Most likely he just went back to living his life with his wife and has done some pitching in work for Jigsaw on the side.
This is wrong. He couldn't have gone back to living a normal life. This would mean that Hoffman knew he was still alive. Hoffman's reaction to Gordon revealing he was alive when he pulled off his pig mask was epic. Hoffman was stunned, asking, "what the hell". So if Hoffman didn't know he survived, there is no way he went on to live a normal life.

Amanda? Did Hoffman go back that far (I can't remember if it was referenced in Saw 5).Wasn't this all established as being Hoffman's work? If not, much of it was all intimated for sure.[/spoiler]
So much white...watch out when replying too btw.

No. Remember in Saw II, they explained that Obi (who was also in the Nerve Gas House) had helped capture all of the other victims. My gut feeling is Jigsaw knew Obi well. We saw a flashback in Saw III (just as John in dying), where Jill is in the park. In the background, Obi is walking in the background. I feel they definitely should have done more with this character, explain more things. You can't just recruit a bloke to help capture other characters and not explain anything further.

[strauchy]

i cant wait! i want to watch the 6th one again though before i go for the final chapter because i honestly cant remember most of it!

one question - is it 'Actually' worth seeing it in 3D?
there are movies that don't actually need to be in 3D and just wondering if its better or worthwile.

[Kong]

ffs xbox, SPOILER TAGS!

"Evan's trap is because he's a racist".

Please white out anything that's to do with the film.

[Hawks1523]

ffs xbox, SPOILER TAGS!

"Evan's trap is because he's a racist".

Please white out anything that's to do with the film.

This. FFS. :mad: :(

[X_box_X]

Sorry about that.

[Kerrby]

ffs xbox, SPOILER TAGS!

"Evan's trap is because he's a racist".

Please white out anything that's to do with the film.
WTF? Now you just spoiled it for me :p.

[Kong]

No probs, I'm almost certain I figured out the twist as soon as I heard the film was coming out, which I've already posted as a prediction earlier in the thread.

Hopefully going on Sunday!

[giantroo]

Just came back watching it. Good stuff. Love the flying objects effects. Lots of blood and other flying body parts!!!


There's bound to be an 8th Saw movie.

[HBK619]

I love twists. Do you remember the bloke who killed Jeff's son (Dylan), who is used in The Rack in Saw III (Timothy Young)? They could have explained more about how he killed his son, using some sort of twist. For example, Evan's trap from Saw 3D was because he was a racist. What if he and his friends were giving Timothy a hard time about his skin colour and were abusing him? So Timothy panicked, got in his car, and wasn't concentrating properly and, therefore, hit Dylan with his car. So the twist is that not only is Timothy to blame for the death of Jeff's son, but Evan and his friends also had a huge role to play in that.

Again, they could create for an interesting story if they use twists. Adopt a second reasoning as to why certain characters were in traps. We could have learned more about the junkie Troy... a twist possibly explaining that he was in jail with Amanda and her "dead cell mate" from Saw. Just an idea.Eh, too much of it then becomes coincidental twists and small world effects. A lot of that stuff then stops being a twist when it's done over and over again. That's one really good thing about Saw is that they generally don't re-use twists. They had one for Saw 3 which related to former reasonings and it all tied in very nicely. No need to then out-loop everything and tie it back even further to another thing. Would also rely on some things being VERY tightly written, one wrong thing said in any moment of the films when tying stuff back and it throws everything out.Considering Brit and Mallick, the sole survivors from Saw V, were the two people ultimately responsible for the fire, that's pretty big. Again, there could have been a twist that someone's family died in that fire.Wait, what fire?This is wrong.He couldn't have gone back to living a normal life. This would mean that Hoffman knew he was still alive. Hoffman's reaction to Gordon revealing he was alive when he pulled off his pig mask was epic. Hoffman was stunned, asking, "what the hell". So if Hoffman didn't know he survived, there is no way he went on to live a normal life.We see Gordon in his office and clearly Gordon must be in the public eye as he was at the whole 'dealing with being in a saw trap' group to which Dagen said "he's been here longer than me" so yes Gordon does live his normal life. Simple fact is that Hoffman didn't know Gordon was working with Jigsaw at all, that was why he was so surprised.No. Remember in Saw II, they explained that Obi (who was also in the Nerve Gas House) had helped capture all of the other victims. My gut feeling is Jigsaw knew Obi well. We saw a flashback in Saw III (just as John in dying), where Jill is in the park. In the background, Obi is walking in the background. I feel they definitely should have done more with this character, explain more things. You can't just recruit a bloke to help capture other characters and not explain anything further.Yeah I know about those. But you were talking Saw 5, 6 and 7 to which much of the work was shown and intimated at being Hoffman's work.

Sure Obi didn't get a whole lot dedicated to him but honestly I felt he was a shit character and didn't really deserve much about him. I have a feeling the whole reason he was given that role of being one who brought others in was only a small bridging point.

[Hawks1523]

Going to go at 1pm today. Earliest session on at the local, finally will be able to read all the spoilers. Lol. :D

[X_box_X]

out.Wait, what fire?[spoiler]

[SPOILER]The five victims from Saw V were playing John's game, because each had a part in the warehouse burning down. There was a Journalist, a lady who gives permits, the other three I can't remember too clearly. But Brit and Mallick, who survived at the end (albeit passing out from sever blood loss) were the two who were mostly to blame for that fire.

[OzBomber]

Fix your spoiler buddy.

[Jynx]

R18+ :thumbsd:

I guess I'll probably have to sneak in.

[X_box_X]

Fix your spoiler buddy.

A spoiler? That information is two years old. Nothing no body who reads this thread with interest won't already know.

[OzBomber]

A spoiler? That information is two years old. Nothing no body who reads this thread with interest won't already know.
Then why did you put [spoiler] at the front?

[HoldenMagroin]

R18+ :thumbsd:

I guess I'll probably have to sneak in.

It takes a lot these days to get an R rating, so by Saw's standards, it must be pretty out there. Can't wait for it.

[Hawks1523]

Definitely enjoyed it, wasn't as good as 6 but I considering this was to finish everything up it was always going to be hard to come out with an absolute cracker.

At the end of the day this would be my re-configured ratings.
1>6>3>2>7>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>5

Much the same as Walker said, EVERYONE knew that once Elwes came back he would be coming back in some way to pwn Hoffman over (and be revealed as a disciple of Jigsaw). We all knew it and I for one was glad it happened as it does give the overall closure and not only that it (as Walker said) brings the series full circle.

The Linkin Park guy's trap was probably the best of the lot, but was over way too quick.

I didn't like the rushing of everything this time around, I can't remember the time limit in every single trap but was it always so quick with it being 30 or 60 seconds. Seems ridiculous.

The public trap made no sense and the strangest part was the lack of anything about it post-finish. Why was there a news piece on every single other trap bar the public one? For mine a trap that is witnessed by hundreds of people is far more newsworthy than one not. It made for a good trailer trap, but ended up being a bit pathetic for the actual movie.

Was disappointed with the performance of Sean Patrick Flanery as Bobby Dagen. I just couldn't really get into his performance at all, the guy was stabbed multiple times with a metal pole, had 2 of his back teeth removed by himself and then ripped his pecs off and there was barely a scream throughout them all. Not to mention, no limping, no grabbing at the wounds, no real showing that he had been injured prior to entering the last room. Strange and disappointing for sure.


Agree with you HBK and Walker. Once we see Dr. Gordon as the group session, you just know that he's going to be involved with the setting up of traps, and had been working with jigsaw all along.

With Bobby not paying attention at all to his injuries, that's something that pissed me off all movie aswell. Same goes for Hoffman after Jill stabs him in the neck. When he enters the room where he eventually puts the head trap on her, we see the wound, just a small cut, no blood and never given attention after the initial stab. I'm sorry but if you are stabbed in the neck, and it takes as much effort to pull it out, as he needed, you're not going to ignore that. Likewise if you have metal poles jabbed into your ribs, it's not something you can just walk off.


The major gripe I have with the film, was something you've also addressed HBK. The traps are far too short this time around. I remember traps previously being 5 minutes? 30-60 seconds just isn't enough. Also everybody dying was just overkill. Hoffman killing all the cops was win though.

Also, I don't like how this has been left open. We see Dr. Gordon has been working with Jigsaw, but does he now stop because Jill's dead and Hoffmans been disposed of? Or does he just stop now. He had two people with him. Who are they, how deep is their involvement? For me it just feels like they've left it open enough that if they want to, they can make an 8th film.


Over all, was worth the $20 to see it. Good, but not great.

3.5 / 5 seems fair.



My rankings of the films would be;

1 > 2 > 7 > 6 > 3 > 4 > 5

[JR#8]

Watched this last night. Wasn't too bad. But honestly 3D is so over rated.

[Kong]

Far too predictable.

In a bit of a hurry so I'll have to post more later, but I knew the 'twist' long before I walked in.

The traps were too predictable in that they would all die, and were mostly unpleasant so that there was no reward in sitting through it just to see an ending I already knew would come.

Jill's death was pretty gruesome; shit way for her to go out.

What annoyed me most was Bobby's wife - the innocent one in all of it - dying so brutally. I guess that was just indicative of Hoffman/Amanda's traps, as opposed to Jigsaw who always tried to give people some sort of chance.

Possibly the worst in the entire series for me. I'd have to watch 4-7 and again, but at this stage:

1 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 4 > 7

[X_box_X]

What annoyed me most was Bobby's wife - the innocent one in all of it - dying so brutally. I guess that was just indicative of Hoffman/Amanda's traps, as opposed to Jigsaw who always tried to give people some sort of chance.


That annoyed me too about Joyce. She was innocent, but she isn't the only innocent one who has been put in traps. Even Jigsaw put Dr. Gordon's wife and daughter in danger in the first movie, even though the odds weren't stacked against them like Joyce's were. That's where the difference lies, in the chance of survival.

[Kong]

Dude, fix your spoiler tags.

[X_box_X]

Dude, fix your spoiler tags.

That would have to be the quickest reply I've ever seen. I fixed that within ten seconds. Synergy?

[Kong]

lol.6chars

[TP86]

you could tell it'd been compressed from 2 movies to 1. honestly it was a poor man's saw 3. too much gross-out, not enough plot. the storyline is the only reason i've followed the franchise start to finish.

to rate the 7 in order, i'd say 1, 4, 6, 5, 3, 7, 2

[Lenny29]

I think we're past the need for spoiler tags, but I'll use them anyway just in case someone gets their knickers in a twist.

It was ****ing abysmal.

The appeal to the series to me is that all the Jigsaw traps (except one that I recall that I also thought was shit) has allowed the person being tested to seal their own destiny. The traps in this movie didn't.

Yeah, I figure it was all done to suggest that Hoffman had "gone too far" and was now just a sadistic murderer rather than wanting to actually test anyone, but I don't want to see a movie just full of that. The appeal has always been, to me, that the people in the traps have in a way "deserved" to be there and there is now a chance for them to redeem themselves. In this one, it seemed to be the derivative evil horror movie serial killer, only that this one kills via traps rather than slowly lumbering after teenagers in a big giant house.

Far too over the top in terms of violence and gore, even for a Saw movie, and terribly underwhelming on "plot". I had Saw 3 as comfortably the worst of the series for similar reasons and this is about eighty bajillion levels below that one. Not in the slightest bit enjoyable or interesting, just disgusting to watch and a blight on the franchise.

[Kong]

Agree with pretty much everything you've said, Lenny, except that I had #4 as the worst ranked before VII.

It just became a film similar to Hostel, in that it truly was torture porn. I don't pay to go see inventive ways to have people brutally murdered, knowing full well that they're going to die before the trap even begins. I paid because the first one's story was absolutely captivating, the second was really clever, and from then on there was the promise of finding out more about Jigsaw and his back story.

Also, while I think it was a "good" ending with Dr Gordon finally putting an end to Hoffman, it was faaaaaaaaaarrrrr too predictable. The writers needed to give its audience a little more credit;

Saw II - Amanda is revealed as an accomplice
Saw IV - Hoffman is revealed as an accomplice
Saw VII - Dr Gordon is revealed as an accomplice

We'd seen it all before. Also, I don't really buy it. So Lawrence, after flipping out in the belief that his family was going to die, cuts his leg off and holds it against a steaming pipe, suddenly forgets about them and decides "bugger it, I'll just stick around with the guy that tried to kill them and me."

In one of the earlier films (possibly V), they said that he was still missing a year after the first film, so I don't really understand how he was back in his office at the hospital to receive the tape from Jill.

Let's just hope that they don't try to further revive the series.

[Drummond]

I missed it at the cinemas, so I just waited for it to come on DVD. Finally saw it tonight and (obviously spoilers below)...

Very disappointing. Everything I was disappointed in has already been said, so good to know I wasn’t alone. I had quite a few issues with this one. Firstly, the beginning trap was pretty pointless and you didn’t feel for anyone so that was a bit of an anticlimactic beginning. As this one was the conclusion to the series, I would’ve liked to see a longer film, more flashbacks, more questions answered. We got a short movie, very few flashbacks, and very few answers other than Dr.Gordon, but even still there are countless questions about him, what's he been doing, why he felt he needed to assist Jigsaw ect.

Another thing which disappointed me was that everyone died. I know that the majority of people involved in the traps die in these films, but EVERYONE? You knew they were going to die before the clock started ticking, so for me that was a letdown, made watching the traps almost pointless.

One of the issues you’ll get in prolonging a series like this is that towards the end you’ll be left with very few familiar faces. With returning characters you get suspense as you are invested in the survival of someone. I just didn’t ‘get’ the cast; I felt nothing for the newest detective and didn’t really care what happened to him. I personally loved Saw 6, loved it, probably rank it second. There were a lot of flashbacks, the pace was good, a lot revealed and explained. As gory as these movies are, I’ve been engrossed with the plot and how it slowly advanced each time. With this film, it all seemed so rushed, there was so little information revealed, and it’s why I probably rank it last.