View Full Version : Nasser Hussain resigns as England skipper
Reckon's he's mentally knackered after a big year. First the Ashes, then the WC & Zimbabwe & now SA.
Surely Vaughan is the only candidate?
Vaughan has been appointed to take over for the rest of the series as he was vice-captain and an announcement will be made after the SA series.
This was a bit of a shocker but I think from what he said it was difficult witht eh 2 captains thing, there's been a load of pressure in the press here about how Vaughan did such a good job in the one dayers & they were almost counting down the days before Hussain handed over.
Plus they were making big things over Vaughans laid back happy-clappy style of leadership compared with Hussain's aggressive dictatorial style.
Personally I think English cricketers need someone to give them a good kick up the arse as has been proved without it they all revert back to the comfort zone mentality.
Booze Hound
29 Jul 2003, 23:26
Nasser sounded like someone not that bothered if he played again.
I suspect the Zimbabwe World Cup rubbish really got to him.
Originally posted by Booze Hound
Nasser sounded like someone not that bothered if he played again.
Do you think so?
It's just that he's had about his best season for Essex for about 6 or 7 years.
Booze Hound
30 Jul 2003, 00:21
Originally posted by DIPPER
Do you think so?
It's just that he's had about his best season for Essex for about 6 or 7 years.
That's not saying much :(
Originally posted by Booze Hound
That's not saying much :(
(Dipper drops to the floor in agony after that unwarranted & malicious punch to the kidney from Booze Hound)..........well no it's not saying much I admit but he has scored pretty well this season, a double hundred & a couple of 90s in the CC & a couple of one day hundreds whilst the international one day series was on.
We can't all buy a team of international players like certain clubs I could mention.:D
And they won't let us produce the good old green tops that used to win us the Championship in the 80s.;)
My point is though that as he's been motivated to score some decent runs for Essex I would have thought that that implied that he was still motivated to do the same for England.
Actually I think he could have quite a good Indian:D summer to his England career now that the cpataincy has gone.
Booze Hound
30 Jul 2003, 19:07
Originally posted by DIPPER
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We can't all buy a team of international players like certain clubs I could mention.:D
And they won't let us produce the good old green tops that used to win us the Championship in the 80s.;)
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Off the top of my head:
Ward
Butcher
Stewart
Tudor
Bicknell
Murtagh
Batty
Brown
Hollioake
Clarke
Thorpe
Of the 'regular' team all came through the Surrey schools/club system! And a few more, like Giles, would have gone to other counties.
More than can be said for the 'great' Essex side methinks?
And, of course, they win despite playing half their games on, with Taunton, the best batting pitch in the land :D
Originally posted by Booze Hound
Off the top of my head:
Ward
Butcher
Stewart
Tudor
Bicknell
Murtagh
Batty
Brown
Hollioake
Clarke
Thorpe
Of the 'regular' team all came through the Surrey schools/club system! And a few more, like Giles, would have gone to other counties.
More than can be said for the 'great' Essex side methinks?
And, of course, they win despite playing half their games on, with Taunton, the best batting pitch in the land :D
A bit defensive there aren't we?I mean I never actually mentioned Surrey by name, I was in fact talking about Worcershire when they signed Botham, Dilley etc:p
Actually joking aside I do admire what Surrey are doing for the England team, although I look back in fondness at the Essex glory days it must be said our approach of green top pitches combined with not worrying about losing matches (due to the 16pt bonus for winning games) was hardly conducive to producing players who could cut it at Test level.
Getting back to Nasser Hussain his Test record was 17 wins & 15 defeats with I think 13 draws, when you take out two 4-1 thumpings from Asutralia it's not too bad(when you consider all other sides get to bale out after losing 3-0 to them).
There was an interesting piece in the paper today that said that between them Botham, Gower & Gatting led England for 65 Tests & how many victories did they amass in that time?
I might leave this as a quizz question so all answers gratefully recieved & if there is any interest I'll pop back with the answer.
Booze Hound
31 Jul 2003, 21:29
Just seen reports of an interview with Hussain's brother who reckons it pretty certain that Nasser will not tour this winter and may well retire from all cricket even before the end of the summer.
Vaughan's captaincy is off to a great start.England are 7/112
Originally posted by DIPPER
Getting back to Nasser Hussain his Test record was 17 wins & 15 defeats with I think 13 draws, when you take out two 4-1 thumpings from Asutralia it's not too bad(when you consider all other sides get to bale out after losing 3-0 to them).
There was an interesting piece in the paper today that said that between them Botham, Gower & Gatting led England for 65 Tests & how many victories did they amass in that time?
I might leave this as a quizz question so all answers gratefully recieved & if there is any interest I'll pop back with the answer.
Ok due to the overwhelming demand:D here's the answer in 65 Tests captained between them Botham. Gower & Gatting rattled up the mightily impressive total of 7 Test match victories between them.:eek:
Funnily enough by my reckoning 5 of these would have been against Australia.:p
It's shocking when you think about it, this is the mid 80s when really all of India, Pakistan & NZ were just starting to break free from their previous place as perennial easy beats.
In theory England had a strong batting line up, Gooch, Gower, Gatting,Lamb, Botham-the reality was that the batsmen hardly ever delivered & it tended to be the bowlers who kept us in matches.
I think the England captains who did for the most part a decent job since were Gooch & Hussain (no bias there Boozy honest!) who at least toughened things up for a while.
But really 7 wins out of 65 Tests, i'm half hoping that the article I read this has got it wrong, it's hard to believe & would mean that Gatting's only 2 wins were in the 86/87 Ashes trip & that he never won another in about 30 odd Tests!
Originally posted by DIPPER
But really 7 wins out of 65 Tests, i'm half hoping that the article I read this has got it wrong, it's hard to believe & would mean that Gatting's only 2 wins were in the 86/87 Ashes trip & that he never won another in about 30 odd Tests! Strange thing is there are a few people - Ian Chappell for instance - who rate Mike Gatting as quite a good captain.
EagleBlue
3 Aug 2003, 15:03
Originally posted by DaveW
Strange thing is there are a few people - Ian Chappell for instance - who rate Mike Gatting as quite a good captain.
Probably beacause of his series win in Australia. His record was pretty ordinary otherwise.