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Mr Q
31 Jul 2003, 23:19
http://eagles.newman-knights.com/news.php?newsid=84

The Eagles were a much improved outfit in the Round 17 shutdown of Hawthorn at Subiaco, but the game came at a cost with Andrew Embley and Josh Wooden added to the list of unavailable players. While Wooden is replaceable, Embley's form over 2003 has been almost the most impressive of all West Coast players, and replacing him will be difficult, while the continuing absence of Michael Gardiner and Chad Fletcher leaves the team looking undermanned for this weeks clash with St Kilda at Docklands.

Changes
Five players have so far been added to the squad, Damien Adkins and Trent Carroll possibly returning to the side after a week out, Kane Munro who has not played since the draw against the Bulldogs in round 11, Callum Chambers who has not played in 2003 and would-be debutant Adam Selwood.

The only omissions so far are the injured Andrew Embley and Josh Wooden.

Click here for the squad (http://eagles.newman-knights.com/fixtures.php?id=36)

Lead up
St Kilda are officially making up the numbers for 2003, with only a mathematical chance of making the finals left for the Saints, 2003 another year in the wilderness for their long-suffering supporters. The Saints, after looking respectable early in the year have lost five of their last six, the only win a five point thriller over the Kangaroos - all the other games have seen thumpings inflicted on St Kilda.

The Eagles are on the sort of rollercoaster that often happens to inexperienced sides; last week's thrashing of Hawthorn and the annihilation of Carlton (both at Subiaco) bookended an insipid and frankly horrific performance against the Power at Football Park. However it must be noted that the Eagles have been playing regularly against the best sides in the competition away (Port and Sydney the two most recent), which softens the review of recent away performances.

Injuries and Suspensions
The Eagles' injury list is as bad as it has been all season, with Gardiner, Fletcher and Embley not available and Ashley McIntosh obviously struggling to regain match fitness in the WAFL. The continued absence of Travis Gaspar is a worry as well at West Coast.

St Kilda are pretty much running at full strength, with Fraser Gehrig returning from suspension. Missing however are Steven Lawrence who was involved in a car accident and Steven Milne, suspended for striking Crow Andrew McLeod last week

Match Ups
The Eagles depleted midfield is still pretty dangerous, Ben Cousins, Daniel Kerr and Chris Judd are a dangerous combination in anyone's book. Matching up for the Saints in the middle will be Robert Harvey, Steven Powell and Lenny Hayes; a serviceable group, but other than Harvey not quite in the same class. Additionally the Saints are one of the few teams the Eagles would be happy to face without Gardiner as they are reduced to playing key-position man Justin Koschitzke in the ruck.

Around the ground the Saints have a potent forward line named with Nick Reiwoldt and Fraser Gehrig who kicked nine in his last outing against the Roos two weeks ago. This will be a big challenge for the Eagles tall backmen, likely to be out of Darren Glass and Trent Carroll, neither of who have exactly covered themselves in glory in 2003 or possibly Glen Jakovich or even Andrew McDougall.

The ability of Rowan Jones to stand up and fill Embley's shoes will be a critical part of the Eagles game. Jones will have to bear whichever Saint stands him, and possibly not be too scared to kick the ball forward. Additionally McDougall and the Eagles small forwards (Phil Matera and Ashley Sampi) will have to outperform the relatively unknown St Kilda backline this week.

2002 - 2003
The last meeting between these two sides was a 70 point thrashing inflicted on the Saints in Round 3, while in 2002 these teams met at Docklands in a forgettable performance by the blue and gold.

2003, Round 3, Subiaco
West Coast 5.6 12.10 17.14 21.18 (144)
Saint Kilda 2.3 5.5 8.6 11.8 ( 74)

2002, Round 10, Docklands
Saint Kilda 8.0 15.3 20.5 20.7 (127)
West Coast 3.2 5.5 7.8 11.11 ( 77)

Head to Head
Overall: Played 26; St Kilda 10, West Coast 15, Draws 1.
At Docklands: Played 3; St Kilda 1, West Coast 1, Draws 1.
Biggest Margin - West Coast: West Coast 26.15 (172) d St Kilda 12.7 (79), 92 points, Subiaco, R18 2001. (nice to see a positive record from 2001 for a change
Biggest Margin - St Kilda: St Kilda 15.5 (95) d West Coast 3.11 (29) 66 points, Waverley, R18 1992.

Milestones
Two Eagles face minor milestones in this game, with Dean Cox and Darren Glass both bringing up their 50th games with the club.

Summary
This game is a real danger game for the Eagles, a weakened side travelling to Melbourne to play a side with nothing but pride on the line. Very dangerous. However I think the Eagles still have the better side available for this week, and are just a little better than the Saints, enough to get over the line and keep the season ticking along. Certainly this game should be exciting (now I've guaranteed a one sided affair), but complacency is long gone at the Eagles and the need to win this game should get the Eagles home.

My prediction: Eagles by 8 points

RzrBlade
31 Jul 2003, 23:31
Great review Mr Q. I also think this match should be a close and a exciting free-flowing relatively high-scoring game (as both teams defences are not there strengths). Hopefully the Eagles will not fall into the trap of previous years at the Telstra Dome against the Saints bar the draw two years back.

Well done to Coxy and Glass on achieving 50 games each. May there be many more to come.


MY TIP: Eagles by 17 points.

carlyp
31 Jul 2003, 23:35
We've got to win!!! This is a big chance for us to get back to 2nd position in the ladder!

eagleskickass
31 Jul 2003, 23:38
Great review, just like to point out Milli isnt struggling to regain match fitness in the WAFL, he is injured, either hamstring or calf or something like that:)

evertonfc
31 Jul 2003, 23:38
Well said guys,

Should be a clinker of a game.

It will go right down to the wire - West Coast by 3 points.

Best of luck :)

carlyp
31 Jul 2003, 23:39
Originally posted by evertonfc
Well said guys,

Should be a clinker of a game.

It will go right down to the wire - West Coast by 3 points.

Best of luck :)

Best of luck to you too evertonfc!

Voice of Reason
31 Jul 2003, 23:41
We'll need to play better than our deplorable showing in the comparable game last year.

Since only 4 of the following can occupy the pine for this game:
Damien Adkins
Drew Banfield
Trent Carroll
Callum Chambers
Kane Munro
Adam Selwood,
I expect the unlucky trio not to get a game this week to be Adkins, Chambers and Selwood (with Selwood getting the trip for experience unless there's a midfielder carrying an injury), although time will of course tell and I'll probably be wrong.

ie I expect Carroll and Munro to get a game.

evertonfc
1 Aug 2003, 00:31
Originally posted by carlyp
Best of luck to you too evertonfc!

You gunna be dragging that cute Balkins backside of yours over for this one?

*Already been to Tassie for the footy this year!*

carlyp
1 Aug 2003, 00:45
Originally posted by evertonfc
You gunna be dragging that cute Balkins backside of yours over for this one?

*Already been to Tassie for the footy this year!*

No, I would If I had the time, virgin flights are quite cheap. Could go over for the day!
Been to tassie for footy huh?? Good on you! Great to here!

Falchoon
1 Aug 2003, 02:49
Originally posted by Mr Q

The Eagles depleted midfield is still pretty dangerous, Ben Cousins, Daniel Kerr and Chris Judd are a dangerous combination in anyone's book. Matching up for the Saints in the middle will be Robert Harvey, Steven Powell and Lenny Hayes; a serviceable group, but other than Harvey not quite in the same class.

How is Hayes not in the same class?

Take out Powell, Baker is an automatic on Cousins, probably run Hayes and Harvey head to head for the majority. Thompson may come in to the side for Judd.

evertonfc
1 Aug 2003, 11:42
Originally posted by Falchoon
How is Hayes not in the same class?

Take out Powell, Baker is an automatic on Cousins, probably run Hayes and Harvey head to head for the majority. Thompson may come in to the side for Judd.

Excellent point.

On any given day we can destroy any midfield - Harvey, Hayes, Hamill, Black, Powell, Riewoldt and Baker combined to smash Adelaide in Round 2 this year. Apparently they have the *best* midfield in the comp, so we're right up there.

Add Dal Santo - the classiest player on our list - and I'm confident that we're more than capable of competing in the middle.

Where I think West Coast will win the game is in the 'accountability' factor. They are capable of playing four quarters of excellent football, where as we are not. The game will be played out at breakneck speed, and if anyone is set to slip up for even the slightest moment, you'd think it would be St Kilda.

But at the Dome, the Saints generally play terrific footy.

Flip a coin for this one.

Falchoon
1 Aug 2003, 12:44
Originally posted by evertonfc
Excellent point.

On any given day we can destroy any midfield - Harvey, Hayes, Hamill, Black, Powell, Riewoldt and Baker combined to smash Adelaide in Round 2 this year. Apparently they have the *best* midfield in the comp, so we're right up there.




*cough* Ball *cough*

Voice of Reason
1 Aug 2003, 12:51
Originally posted by evertonfc
Excellent point.

On any given day we can destroy any midfield - Harvey, Hayes, Hamill, Black, Powell, Riewoldt and Baker combined to smash Adelaide in Round 2 this year. Apparently they have the *best* midfield in the comp, so we're right up there.

Add Dal Santo - the classiest player on our list - and I'm confident that we're more than capable of competing in the middle.

Where I think West Coast will win the game is in the 'accountability' factor. They are capable of playing four quarters of excellent football, where as we are not. The game will be played out at breakneck speed, and if anyone is set to slip up for even the slightest moment, you'd think it would be St Kilda.

But at the Dome, the Saints generally play terrific footy.

Flip a coin for this one.

All fair points and a fair conclusion. Add in Ball and a touch of Goddard, some good KPPs and there is no reason at all why on paper you aren't a really good side.

There are however 3 questions:
a) which St Kilda side will turn up?
b) will your coach perform with his usual incompetence this match day?
c) will the Eagles self-belief, good coaching and run get them through the challenge?

Sera
1 Aug 2003, 13:43
We have alot of injuries. I suspect St Kilda will win in a close one.

Au_Blue#24
1 Aug 2003, 14:08
Originally posted by Sera
We have alot of injuries. I suspect St Kilda will win in a close one.

injuries sminjuries - Cox and doogs will win the ruck, embley will be missed but other players can take on his role.

We have depth and attitude. Woosh will make this game out to be the start of our finals campaign so expect a lift in intensity.

carlyp
1 Aug 2003, 14:23
Originally posted by Au_Blue#24
injuries sminjuries - Cox and doogs will win the ruck, embley will be missed but other players can take on his role.

We have depth and attitude. Woosh will make this game out to be the start of our finals campaign so expect a lift in intensity.

Yep totally agree. It'll be close but we can do it!

steve_rat
1 Aug 2003, 17:08
carly, you can updated your signature now...


steve rat

carlyp
1 Aug 2003, 18:00
Originally posted by steve_rat
carly, you can updated your signature now...


steve rat

He hasnt officially signed on yet has he??

daddy_4_eyes
1 Aug 2003, 18:19
Originally posted by carlyp
He hasnt officially signed on yet has he??

Apparently they're drawing up the contract right now. I imagine it will be signed sometime next week.

carlyp
1 Aug 2003, 18:31
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Apparently they're drawing up the contract right now. I imagine it will be signed sometime next week.

Uhuh thats kool. Well I think I'll still wait for the media release and the press conference before I change my signature. You know what people on bigfooty can be like...very pedantic!